Biquad Yagi 2 4GHz and 5 8GHz Upgrade!

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  • @halduck
    @halduck 3 роки тому +2

    Love the use of CAD on this project: Cardboard Aided Design

  • @wattage2007
    @wattage2007 9 років тому +43

    Shouldn't be surprised you're clocking so many views. Your hands down the best guy on UA-cam for this stuff!

    • @andrewmcneil
      @andrewmcneil  9 років тому +9

      wattage2007 Thanks Wattage

    • @average8220
      @average8220 9 років тому

      +wattage2007 wonder what those thumbdowning were thinking

    • @dragonfoe
      @dragonfoe 9 років тому

      +average I can only imagine they are competitors who are trying to make money with some sort of rubbish that Andrew's design blow off the tarmac!! Keep at it, Andy, your a boss of all bosses.

    • @andrewmcneil
      @andrewmcneil  9 років тому +1

      +Dragonfoe Thanks Dragonfoe

    • @geist-2111
      @geist-2111 8 років тому

      Thanks for your informative and very useful channel, i have learned a lot from your work, i had a question but it was answered in another of your videos.

  • @minkorrh
    @minkorrh 6 років тому

    I'm 50, always had an interest in radio and RC. Uncle was a ham and got me dabbling in electronics and I found you from looking for antenna designs for FPV. Awesome channel! I love learning about this stuff.

  • @kruszielski
    @kruszielski 5 місяців тому

    whatching 9 years later, and still is the best video on internet about creating a very efficient antenna for wifi.

    • @andrewmcneil
      @andrewmcneil  5 місяців тому

      Time flies

    • @kruszielski
      @kruszielski 5 місяців тому

      @@andrewmcneil By the way, are the templates size made on a regular A4 paper?

    • @andrewmcneil
      @andrewmcneil  5 місяців тому +1

      @@kruszielski Yes👍

  • @totaleclipsify
    @totaleclipsify 8 років тому +6

    I found your channel today and absolutely love it. I'm like a kid in a candy store. Definitely thumbs up.

  • @YorHighness
    @YorHighness 9 років тому

    I will never buy a commercial antenna again. You are the wifi antenna God.

  • @ChiragChaudhari
    @ChiragChaudhari 9 років тому +1

    Andrew Once again great video. Those words are tiny for the amount of hard work you are putting to build these antennas. And good luck for the website and the store.
    Thank you bunch.

    • @andrewmcneil
      @andrewmcneil  9 років тому

      Chirag Chaudhari My pleasure, thanks for the feedback

  • @dannyjohnson6967
    @dannyjohnson6967 2 роки тому

    Just started watching,awesome channel, descriptive,and informative.very professional presentation and you test each product so there is no hesitation about quality or workmanship. Thank you

  • @PatriotPaulUSA
    @PatriotPaulUSA 7 років тому

    I know this is old but I had to say its very nice as always, Your ingenuity is amazing. There are a lot of tinkerers and rc guys you know. I hope your channel continues to grow.

  • @steveraby6023
    @steveraby6023 9 років тому

    Superb build Andrew. Very impressed with your knowledge. The sooner your shop open's the better as the current antennas on the market are not so reliable.

    • @andrewmcneil
      @andrewmcneil  9 років тому

      steve raby
      My pleasure, thanks for the feedback

  • @MadLabZ
    @MadLabZ 9 років тому +1

    Amazing videos, I have personally recreated many of your antenna builds, you are very clear on explanation, and precision in each video, A++ you-tuber keep the videos coming and thanks for your hard work.

  • @johnhill5745
    @johnhill5745 9 років тому

    Hello Andrew,I have just found your channel and it is just what I have been looking for,I have started to get the bits together to build some of your designs so thanks for sharing your knowledge and keep them coming.

  • @th3t1ck94
    @th3t1ck94 9 років тому +1

    Great video Andrew. I'm going to fire up the CNC and make myself one.

  • @trahim2
    @trahim2 9 років тому +1

    Thank you for all your great videos on antenna design.

  • @sergoman9473
    @sergoman9473 9 років тому

    Сделал по вашему образцу 2,4 антенну. Реально сигнал увеличился! Спасибо!

  • @Vigilence
    @Vigilence 9 років тому +1

    Super awesome video, thank you for teaching us your process and sharing your thoughts as you go about making the antenna.

  • @hiwayM9
    @hiwayM9 9 років тому

    I spent a career in the screenprinting field- that photosensitive emulsion on that pc board looks suspiciously familiar. We made screens, or plates for printing exactly the same way. Modern HID lighting, and tuned LED's will make that exposure time measure in seconds.
    I will be joining the forum if you build it, and once I get some specs on the window these things operate in, I may consider some ground station upgrades/options.

  • @timurgaranin
    @timurgaranin 3 роки тому

    Why is the center point of each director split? You should solder them.

  • @martinba77
    @martinba77 9 років тому

    Great job Andrew hope you continue growing your channel!
    Thanks for your dedication!
    Cheers!

  • @rogerioaraujo2094
    @rogerioaraujo2094 8 років тому

    extremely useful because this idea can be applied to 3G and 4G antennas too, tks a lot for share your project.

  • @kaboooom2000uk
    @kaboooom2000uk 9 років тому

    Excelent stuff! I am a radio amateur and love this antenna as well. I have made single section versions for 145Mhz and 440mhz, works really well. Thanks for the information.

  • @Hoverbot1TV
    @Hoverbot1TV 9 років тому

    Bolts a spacers would work as a spine maybe or neoprene foam which works on my panel antennas.

  • @BAGINAZARD
    @BAGINAZARD 5 років тому

    Okay, it's been years now, we need this product.

  • @djgforce1980
    @djgforce1980 9 років тому

    Great work Andrew, keep it up. I've built a few of your antennas for FPV with good results. Thanks!

    • @andrewmcneil
      @andrewmcneil  9 років тому

      Gareth Anderson Thanks Gareth, and thanks for the feedback

    • @ThePVPshowTV
      @ThePVPshowTV 9 років тому

      andrew mcneil
      First of all, I want to thank you for such a great build on both antenna models (5.8 & 2.4). Also, I was curious if I would to put the 5.8 antenna at the end of the 2.4 antenna or vice-versa. Would it mean that it would pick up both signals (2.4 & 5.8) ??

  • @josephdiverdi6452
    @josephdiverdi6452 2 роки тому

    Nice videos. I appreciate the detailed explanations you offer. I'm curious about an aspect of the bi-quad antennas that you have built in that none of them use a balanced feed on the driven element. Can you explain your actions, motivations and thinking?

  • @thes.r.s9780
    @thes.r.s9780 9 років тому +1

    Hello Andrew,
    Great Videos Like Always. I'm actually confused about the spaces between Reflector, Driven Element and each Director. It would be more helpful if you could share the spacing measurements.
    Thank you so much for sharing.

  • @georgeemanson
    @georgeemanson 3 роки тому +1

    Did you ever d
    get this mass produced & on sale?

  • @borgelite
    @borgelite 9 років тому +4

    Please can you post the range between the pcb´s for 2.4ghz ?

  • @josephdiverdi6452
    @josephdiverdi6452 2 роки тому

    Actually, I have a second question. Have you considered using straight dipoles for the parasitic elements rather than bi-quads? I'm curious whether there is an intrinsic advantage to go either way.

  • @noggan
    @noggan 9 років тому

    This stuff is super interesting. Keep up the awesome informative videos! Love your work.

  • @346Moody
    @346Moody 9 років тому

    Fascinating, inspiring stuff well done!

  • @haggar11
    @haggar11 7 років тому

    You deserve 8k a day Andy.. well done.

  • @mdesm2005
    @mdesm2005 9 років тому

    You make it interesting somehow. You keep it real. Consider slowly introducing some tidbits of antenna theory now and then. Say starting with a dipole. Etc.

    • @andrewmcneil
      @andrewmcneil  9 років тому

      mdesm2005 Thanks for the feedback I do want to do some fundamental videos hopefully soon.

  • @cookaboorra
    @cookaboorra Рік тому

    Hi ! I jump into your tutorials from time to time...Always amazed by your knowledge and craftmanship. ALWAYS ! Since for work I am asked to fly a DJI drone Mavic Pro over pinewoods and sometimes over tophill rocks and ice covered zones, coulkd you suggest me a 2,4 Ghz antenna design to fit on the two antennas of the radiocontroller ? Or maybe a drone antenna would be better ? THANK YOU

  • @patdoyle2514
    @patdoyle2514 5 років тому

    You are very precise and thorough. Very well edited. Have you any thoughts of financial backing of viewers to get a one thousand run of this perfected model. A "HELP FUND ME" thing? All could benefit Apartment dwellers may not have tools and space, but we can assemble items with your videos and a few instructions. You and eBAY already have connections.

  • @jwcolby54
    @jwcolby54 4 роки тому

    Why don't you 3d print a case wit slots that the elements slide into? Entirely stable

  • @DocMicha
    @DocMicha 9 років тому

    Youre a real Guru. I know this, because I worked since 20 years as physicist and was involved in laseres and their modulation with microwaves. Thank You for this nice video. In one YT Video, you mention, that you have some German Datasheets. I would offer you to translate them into my (not perfect) English. Send me a PN, so I can support your channel.

  • @eyezonmy6
    @eyezonmy6 9 років тому

    Are there any problems using carbon fiber rods as far as deflection? I know it can be a problem with receivers in RC planes

  • @GermanMythbuster
    @GermanMythbuster Рік тому

    Is it possible to get the Gerber-Files and not just the Templates?
    Would love to make one my self 🙂

  • @mohanty627
    @mohanty627 9 років тому

    Andrew, You are absolutely great. There appear to be some problem in printing the template, however. Could you please post the detailed dimension giving the inner, outer (or the thickness) of all the elements for the 2.4 GHz please, so that people like me can take advantage of your efforts.

    • @andrewmcneil
      @andrewmcneil  9 років тому

      * Mohanty What problem are you having?

    • @mohanty627
      @mohanty627 9 років тому

      andrew mcneil Hi Andrew, Thanks for your reply. Actually, I am not getting any improvement over the 5 db Rubber duck stock antenna with the PCB Biquad Yagi. I double checked all dimensions of the PCB with the 2.4 pdf file, and they were exactly the same as per the printout. For example for the driven element, the dimensions are 31.5mm(outer to Outer edge), 25.5mm(inner to inner edge) with a thickness of 3 mm copper strip. I am suspecting that my printer has flawed while printing. Are these dimensions correct? Please confirm. Thank you so much again.

  • @fxtrader6647
    @fxtrader6647 3 роки тому

    Once I buildt the antenna ...what can I do with it?
    All the WiFi sources are protected with WPA/WPA2 passwords .....

  • @haggar11
    @haggar11 7 років тому

    Nice one andy, what is the measurement of the back reflector its not on the PDF file, Thanks in advance.

  • @falconcam55
    @falconcam55 2 роки тому

    Hi, What is the spacing between the elements on the 5.8ghz antenna? I used the 2.4ghz on my openhd FPV set up and got clear video up to 17km. Now eager to try the 5.8.... :))))

  • @lastlyght9025
    @lastlyght9025 6 років тому

    Please Reply to my question sir..
    How important the length of those elements and spacing for these antenna... And what would be the best for 4g... Thanks This video is yet the most informative I've watched for DIY antennas.. Great work sir

  • @cartoon-network814
    @cartoon-network814 5 років тому

    excellent antenna design - biquad yagi!!!

  • @sickvic3909
    @sickvic3909 9 років тому

    What did I miss? No wired connection to upper plates?

  • @osmarjr43
    @osmarjr43 7 років тому

    Too cool colleague, antenna will build your invention !!!! :)

  • @Vigilence
    @Vigilence 9 років тому +2

    Hi andrew, I plan on making the 2.4 Ghz one out of cardboard as a weekend project and I have a few questions as to what I will need.
    For the copper tape, what are the two widths that I will need?
    What is the length and diameter of the dowels?
    Can you recommend someone on ebay that sells quality sma connectors?

  • @readerror67
    @readerror67 9 років тому

    Hello Andrew,
    I was wondering if you could provide the dimensions of the spacing for the reflective and parasitic elements on the 2.4G version, I noticed you mentioned it in the it for the 5.8 in the video.

  • @JWolff-md3ij
    @JWolff-md3ij 9 років тому

    What are you doing when you are "dialing it in"? Is that you just moving the antenna towards the strongest signal?

  • @runcycleskixc
    @runcycleskixc 7 років тому

    what's the difference between this design (thin metal strips) and those where the leaflets are made of solid metal sheets?

  • @JWolff-md3ij
    @JWolff-md3ij 9 років тому

    Also, I noticed that the lobe sized changed on certain yagi mock-ups how does this affect the signal with a lobe size change happening within the repetitions?

  • @OptionParty
    @OptionParty 8 років тому

    Your PCB director elements are floating, as compared to you wire design.

  • @danielfafik7661
    @danielfafik7661 8 років тому

    Hi Andy, excellent job. I'm planing to make this kind of antenna for 2.6GHz (LTE) but how to calculate this antennas? Reflector and first director is "easy" but how to calculate spacers and degrade of size next directors? Could you give me some tips about? Thank you and best regards

  • @scottycuk
    @scottycuk 9 років тому

    Andrew great video again, I've been following your channel for some time now; a quick breakdown video of all the different designs would be good showing all the pro's and con's of each design. Obviously the polarisation circular / linear and directional etc but I would be interested to see how each different antenna performs against the other designs. A shootout between bi quad yagi / helical / yagi etc maybe? :)

  • @johnlyons83
    @johnlyons83 8 років тому

    Andrew, I would like to use your hybrid design for a cellphone antenna design. However, I am having trouble locating the measurements for the Yagi-Biquad design. I am looking for 700mhz range. Any help would be appreciated.

  • @popescuremus6996
    @popescuremus6996 6 років тому

    Hello Andrew!
    I want to build the 2.4 GHz version for my RC plane. I have downloaed the PDV, but there aren't dimenssions. I assume that i print the pdf withh 100% scale, but i don't know the distance between the elements. Can you please give me the distance between elements?
    Thanks,
    Remus

  • @varnamq3
    @varnamq3 8 років тому

    Just a question on the distance, is 120 feet or 120m? since you mentioned 3 brick walls. 120m will be covering a street. Could you please clarify

  • @TheOregonOutlaw
    @TheOregonOutlaw 9 років тому +2

    Andrew,
    To assist in sales and distribution outside the UK, if you sell/send as a "kit" with assembly required, the tariffs and import fees are minuscule. So as I said before, please add me on your sales as I NEED to extend my range. Thank you for your wonderful research and well done productions.

  • @GadgetAddict
    @GadgetAddict 8 років тому

    How did you design the antenna traces? I'd like to try make one for a different frequency.

  • @kyriakoskokkinos9038
    @kyriakoskokkinos9038 6 років тому

    Can you please explain me how all these are connected together because i want to make one an I am confused

  • @rkelley8475
    @rkelley8475 8 років тому

    I really want one but have no building skills . where can I buy one ??

  • @secretAurora9
    @secretAurora9 4 роки тому

    what is the spacing for the 5.8 versoin love your chanel realy instructive and well explane i want to try one for fpv tank's

  • @techtiptricks
    @techtiptricks 5 років тому

    Perfect job for 3d printing.

  • @mattw1680
    @mattw1680 9 років тому

    Hi Andrew, I know it's nothing to do with this video, but can you provide a link to those pre-crimped SMA connectors you use in the router mod videos? I can't seem to find any decent ones on eBay.

  • @ultimabear
    @ultimabear Рік тому

    Hi, did you ever mass-produce these?

  • @Rudeabaga
    @Rudeabaga 6 років тому

    Andrew, have you made pdfs for a long range 5.8 biquad .? Similar to the long range 2.4 with the first 3 elements, double biquads ?

  • @rahulbahuguna123
    @rahulbahuguna123 8 років тому

    Can I make GSM signal booster from this antenna ?

  • @07HDFatboy
    @07HDFatboy 8 років тому

    How do you size each of the different elements from the original size to the smallest one.

  • @traficdas
    @traficdas 2 роки тому

    Can the bi-quad be adapted for 915Mhz lora antenna??

  • @henrydiez4573
    @henrydiez4573 5 років тому

    What Windows Wifi Analyzer program does Andrew Mcneil use? And is there a similar program for Mac OS X as I want to start making some Wifi Aerials.

  • @mazsola76
    @mazsola76 7 років тому

    Hi, Andy! I missed the thickness and material of the PCB (FR4 or else?). Could you give some hint? Thanks!

  • @roberttucker6338
    @roberttucker6338 8 років тому +2

    Hi Andrew,
    Do you have the files for the 5.8Ghz Biquad Yagi antenna FBV boards? Great work! I enjoy watching your site and plan to make some of your antenna's
    Thanks,
    Robert

  • @jadedsoul1
    @jadedsoul1 8 років тому

    can you please tell me the menu in vistumbler that gives you the % strength graph. I cant seem to find the same one you use. when i click scan AP and graph 1 or 2 they are not what yours does. cheers. been subbed for years...always thumbed up.

  • @JuanSanchez-rb4qu
    @JuanSanchez-rb4qu 5 років тому

    Would toner transfer PCB method work?

  • @lebouski
    @lebouski 8 років тому

    nice video nice job Andrew. Is there anywhere i can get more info on making this type of yagi out of PCB's? i am new to this and want to learn how to make a good antenna like you do one day.

  • @happyvalley808
    @happyvalley808 9 років тому

    Love the sharing of knowledge! If you don't know him already, drop Robert Murray Smith a line and purchase some Graphene paint. He sells it for a fair price. I think silk screening may be much easier.

    • @andrewmcneil
      @andrewmcneil  9 років тому

      happyvalley808 I just googled it sounds very interesting you could be onto something there thanks for posting the information.

  • @RedBrumbler
    @RedBrumbler 4 роки тому

    I was wondering, what is the calculation for the size of the biquad patterns? I know for a simple biquad antenna the sides of the antenna should be 1/4ths of the wavelength of the signal you are trying to catch, but what about the reflector or the directors? is that the same as a "normal" yagi antenna where the 1st director is 0.45 * 1/4th of the wavelength, 2nd is 0.40 * 1/4th of the wavelength, and so on?

  • @narpat007
    @narpat007 Рік тому

    nice video, what is the gain of this 5.8GHz bi-quad yagi ?

  • @yxhankun
    @yxhankun 9 років тому +1

    thanks for your demonstration

  • @Hirobian
    @Hirobian 9 років тому

    What are these kinds of antennae used for?

  • @WRCX212
    @WRCX212 7 років тому

    If I used a 15 element 2.4 ghz store bought wifi yagi antenna, and cut all the elements down to half of the length that it is now, would it be slightly more resonant at 5.8ghz?
    Thanks Andrew.

  • @lmoline63601
    @lmoline63601 8 років тому

    Which software do you use to monitor the signal strength of the network adaptor?

  • @rodrigotestualrodriguez2796
    @rodrigotestualrodriguez2796 7 років тому

    Hello my friend my question is what distance apart do the elements lead
    Thank you. Since the pdf does not specify the separation
    Thank you

  • @patedwards6968
    @patedwards6968 9 років тому

    G'Day Andrew! I've just stumbled across you channel and I must say it is BRILLIANT! I'm an FPV pilot and always keen to learn about RF, antennaes etc. etc. I'm keen to get some serious range from my fixed wing craft so things like beam with and penetration are of interest to me. I will be scouring your channel for ideas, thanks very much, Pat!

  • @19rocket64
    @19rocket64 9 років тому

    so can solid foam spacers be used in a stacked configuration instead of stand-offs or will it interfere with performance? Very nice info!

    • @andrewmcneil
      @andrewmcneil  9 років тому

      Rocket That should work but yes it would have a small effect as most materials do to some degree. Even the fibreglass of the PCB does.

  • @ozzlpz
    @ozzlpz 7 років тому

    Would putting this Biquad Yagi in a can, then attaching it to a satellite dish, improve it's functionality?

  • @Silvertestrun
    @Silvertestrun 9 років тому

    I also need to push my WiFi into my workshop outside. My workshop is about 20 meters from my router so should I use a WiFi repeater or something like the Biquad Yagi?

    • @andrewmcneil
      @andrewmcneil  9 років тому

      ***** 20 meters is not far I would go with a double biquad.

  • @AndiYudhistira
    @AndiYudhistira 8 років тому

    Hi Andrew, great video. I just want to ask, in the original yagi that you built all the parasitic elements and the reflector are connected by the PCB rod while in this upgraded version the PCB elements and the reflector are not connected or do they?
    and if they are not connected do they really serve any purpose?

  • @jbx907
    @jbx907 9 років тому

    nice design, like it

  • @onedayillpay
    @onedayillpay 9 років тому

    your first biquad yagi, i never attempted the build... i was not confident in my craft skills...
    a vinal cutting machine does come to mind for precise production of the elements... i do have access to one of these machines, but its currently in storage...
    have you thought about a double biquad yagi?

  • @Peeseebeeb
    @Peeseebeeb 8 років тому

    Hello Andrew,
    Two questions: First of all, what are the spacings for each of the antennae? SecondlyI have seen a design for a yagi converted into a cantenna, would these antennae benefit from placing in a can?

  • @Well_Edumacated
    @Well_Edumacated 9 років тому

    when do you think you would mass produce them?

  • @PaulaJBean
    @PaulaJBean 7 років тому

    Any chance of the Biquad Yagi 2.4GHz coming back for sale again on your webshop?

  • @DarkrickNetwork
    @DarkrickNetwork 9 років тому

    As always great job

  • @jbx907
    @jbx907 9 років тому

    do you have an estimate of the gain of this and it angle of view?

  • @Seth7Seth7
    @Seth7Seth7 6 років тому

    I think that traces that are printed on the PC boards are way too thick or too wide you only need a millimeter or two of material considering the amount of power that's being represented by the transmitter

  • @RCandFPVJonathanNL
    @RCandFPVJonathanNL 9 років тому +3

    and you could send one to Bruce;) that would be a great kickstarter! good luck mate:)

    • @jesondag
      @jesondag 9 років тому

      Yes. Do this. If Bruce featured your antennas on his channels you'd get a lot of interest. Especially the 5.8Ghz Double helical. I'd love so see Bruce test one of those against the other helicals he's tested. I'm sure you already know who Bruce Simpson is, but if not check out RCModelReviews. You won't regret sending him your antennas to review. He has a cult following.

    • @andrewmcneil
      @andrewmcneil  9 років тому

      jesondag I emailed Bruce in January but he never replied but with youtube and gmail it does not take long for messages to get buried and lost. I will try to get hold of him through his website.

    • @andrewmcneil
      @andrewmcneil  9 років тому

      RC and FPV Jonathan I don't think anyone has ever had a successful antenna Kickstarter there was a guy a few years ago who claimed he could build a wifi antenna with better performance than NASA's deep space antenna arrays which is funny and of course he never got funded.

    • @RCandFPVJonathanNL
      @RCandFPVJonathanNL 9 років тому

      andrew mcneil yeah he gets around 100 plus emails a day i think.. just try again;) and you can always try to call him. keep in mind the time difference;) you can also post a video link in the comment section in one of his latest video's. good luck mate!

  • @BlackCatXII1985
    @BlackCatXII1985 7 років тому +1

    Dear Sir, I stay in Malaysia, and our 4G signal here is I think is 2.6Ghz, I think to build one of your design Biquad Yagi antenna for my TP-Link MR-6400 4G modem that is low on the 4G signal, (the telecommunications tower is quite near my house but due to 3 massive apartment is blocking my house from the tower making my 4G signal very low on my house), is this 2.4 Ghz version usable on my country or I need to build the 5.8Ghz unit? or any others measurement that I can follow to build one of this antenna. and the 2nd thing is the copper wire & copper plate, is hard to come by at my place, and the cloth hanger sold is mostly make from plastic, the steel wire that I can get at here also sucking low quality and easy to rust, the best wire I can get on hand is the stainless steel wire that is hard and rust proof, but is hard to bend and I got saw some comment on the web said that stainless steel is not the best material to build a antenna. so I think about can I use aluminum can / aluminum sheet as my template for the antenna? aluminum easy to get and much soft to cut then stick it on the card board as the antenna template.

  • @silvanao9884
    @silvanao9884 5 років тому

    Por favor una antena para router a 2.4 GHz. Si tienes link gracias.