Wonder if they would treat Justin Bieber or another *straight* pop star like this? Shipping and calling folks “fruity” is fun until there is an actual gay guy remotely interested in their fav apparently
A lot of this is silly because K-pop fans seems to think that Western celebrities don't have international fandoms. The interactions are very tame and friendly. There's no need to claim clout chasing or malicious intent. Things like this just cause the whole k-pop industry to become afraid to interact with anyone.
The problem is not her collaborating with Jungkook, is her racist remarks against his race, and the fact she hasn't apologized and deletes evidence. Idk how you made this into a Kpop vs West, or kpop fans thing but all of this started because ppl didn't know who Latto was, and are asking for an apology, which she hasn't given. Idk how you expect them to take this shit, when she herself is deleting the evidence of shit she needs to be criticized about.
Then yes, the word 'clout chasing' is always used against non kpop idols even similar comments are made about idols themselves and their label mates. Those people are what we call delulu stans. They love hurting their idols (not letting them date and speaks to them in general with entitlement) and hurting other west artists. But when they find a problematic person near their idol (not tryna defend toxic stans) but since fans think in mob and heroine, they want to cancel that person. The only backlash I support is latto's because I find it ironic she is collaborating with a asian artist when she is or was racist herself, yet done the bare minimum of apologizing... @@rnw_kidlvl
That’s not why we hate this, it’s because we don’t want more and more idols to be influenced by the west, like they’re already being, for example jungkook, singing a song about fucking a girl right, being also the youngest member in bts, like why do we need songs like that? Why not only have a version with “loving you right” ?? They’re being influenced too much from the west, also with girl groups starting to try and twerk and show a lot of skin (boobs and their whole ass out) singing about twerking or some stupid shit like that, that doesn’t make any sense.
@@ashantythegreat3231well these western people are clout chasing, they see how much kpop and Korea has grown and they just want more and more fans by using these idols.
I think the main problem comes from the shippers , as a stay you must be aware how skz members are highly shipped with each other some see it as friends while some it as other ...
Oh, for sure. I only talk about K-Pop with my family, other fans that seem chill and VERY close friends for this very reason. I don’t want to be associated with the delusional, mean “fans”.
I saw a lot of death threats and homophobic remarks towards Troye. Very disappointing and sad that these “fans” spew such hatred over a photo. This is why we can’t have nice things 🙄
I'm not surprised there were death threats though i didn't seen one. What I saw - they were mostly pissed the way Troye 'fanboying'. IMO, it was obvious he was promoting his new song (on his business tiktok account, stolen a fan edit of Hyunjin). The timing made it sus and wrong. There are many western celebs adoring skz, but never opportunist like Troye did.
Kpop has broken the western market, western Artists are most supportive of them, no excuse for what certain artist's may have done in their past but its a shame that these kpop fans act so holy than hou in their perceived defence of their idols when they are the most ignorant and insulting themselves, so there is a lot of hypocrisy. If the idols have no problem who they work with, then neither should the fans
It's crazy how everyone wants K-pop to be more mainstream in the West and promotions back that claim, but as soon as it happens and barriers are broken; everyone is angry.
Seriously whenever American artist come close to k pop artist these rude fans always said that they are interecting just for clouds but I think its big opportunity for them to promote in western industry so let them do whatever they want to do it's their choice whome they become frnds or not
That's exactly what I'm thinking. It is a good thing when their favourite Kpop idols are the ones who want to be friends with western artists but then if it is the other way round, they start to send death threats and leave hate to western artists. What a cruel world indeed.
i think the fact that a lot of the younger stays like to ship hyunjin with felix or whoever get mad and also people who know that hes a zi0nist i mean i personally don’t support him because of that but i know a lot of other people do just because they don’t know. he also stole a stays edit and put his music over it so he was basically using him to promote his muisc
the latto one about her past tweets is actually really stereotypically offensive (me being asian) considering i dont get offended very easily . what makes it worse is that the deleting is pretty much a straight up denial . the rap was kinda explicit but i mean isn’t the entire song ? i do think the fans doing the digging wasn’t that bad in that case
Im asian too and lets be real here. Jungkook is very talented, but it was his decision to collab with someone like Latto who is imo out of place and not fit in his fanbase. The hate which will unfold in the asian community is a given. Shouldve asked Halsey or some famous asian artist for collab in order to satisfy everyone
@@nerostile333The only person he needed to satisfy was himself. It's impossible to satisfy everyone on the planet so artists shouldn't even try. They should go in the creative direction they want to go in. Experimentation doesn't have to be safe. The members of BTS are men NOT cute little boys. Ppl are gonna have to come to terms with that sooner or later.
@@sonamy1231000 its common sense that fans who listen to BTS/Jungkook will unlikely listen to "bad words"-hip hop from someone like Latto. I really dont understand that collab especially that Jungkook is more famous than Latto, no benefits at all.
They are. We have to hold others in our fandom accountable rather than try and seperate them from us. Yes we may not be toxic fans, but we must acknowledge that toxic fans exist.
one thing i'll never understand is kpop fans who think everyone wants to use their idols for fame. that's sydney sweeney from euphoria, one of the most popular shows in the world right now and her role is a HUGE. like... she's litterally in the same show that got zendaya an emmy. how tf is she gonna use wonyoung for clout? hello???
Sydney may not be popular in Korea but she's very popular in western countries. Like everyone in the western knows her . She's popular than wonyoung. I don't know why wonyoung fans are so obsessed with that they drag everyone alongside her . These fans rlly need to stop.
@Stay123-xm5xc Wait you haven't watched or heard of the show euphoria?? In Europe majority of the people don't know who wonyoung is but they all have watched euphoria. You are one of the few who hasn't.
The delusions most kpop fans hv of western artist looking for clout is laughable. Kpop while popular and loud is still a very small subculture in the western music market but to fans it doesnt seem that way due to their obsessive nature of constantly invloved in the kpop content. Whats even worst is many western artisit arent pushing nor catering to the kpop genre yet many if not all kpop groups pander to the west or western artist for success. So really ask urself , who are the ones looking for clout. Lets not act like kpop is the biggest genre in the world becuz of ur own delusion.
No offense to Wonyoung, I like her but SYDNEY SWEENY is more famous than Wonyoung so why the hell would she “ride her fame”? Some K-pop stans are delusional sometimes and I’m saying that as a K-pop stan myself. Y’all need to touch grass. 😂
i see how they could make the mistake. (i speak english fluently and i only know that the n word is racist i don’t even know what the n stands for) but apologizing is definitely necessary even if there was no malicious intent. it’s excusable if they apologise, or i would be a hypocrite to pretend i know more on that topic.
this mentality of hating on anyone who interacts w your fav idol is gonna scare off potential western collaborators and make it harder for these groups to become mainstream in the western market where collabs can drive a lot of fanbase growth
People need to bffr 😭😭😭 kpop idols dont belong to us. Literally millions of skz fans are down bad for hyunjin, but if troye sivan talked to him for a bit and wanted to contact him, hes threatening their impossible fantasies. Lol
@@brennathecatlover4360She's one of the main actresses from Euphoria. And considering how huge *that* show is, Wonyoung's fans accusing her of clout chasing is beyond weird considering the level of fame she already has.
The hate on Troye Sivan is so unwarranted. D#### threats? If you're reading this and you were one of those who sent him that, you are a DISGRACE! Let them enjoy each other's company and be friends. You "fans" in the Kpop community make me sick.
personally i don’t care what he does if he likes hyunjin he likes hyunjin oh well. But most stays or whatever you want to call them are hating on him for being a zi0nist or using him for “clout” as he stole a stays edit and put his song over it the death threats are very unnecessary and are definitely not okay but him literally supporting people get k*lled is crazy imo
Thx for upload this topic Seriously, not only western artist, any artist who interact the popular kpop idol, They get hate and criticized for no reasons. Take an example: Lee Mujin and BP Lisa's inkigayo case, Running Man BP and Jeon Somin case, Kim Yuna and Jisoo's Dior case, Twice Dahyun skipped Lalisa song case, IU interacted with Newjeans case, BamBam talked their favourite type is newjeans, Lisa and Lee Jung case etc You can see any news about whos are interact with which kpop idol, they will get criticized as Pedo, Loser, tried to get attentions and popularity. The kpop company using innocent pretty face human/minor to deceive and brainwash people and the public will do anything to protect these idol. If the public keep criticized the people who interacted with them just for jealous or other reasons, no one would come to interact with them to avoid controversy and kpop idol will feel guilty for it..
I heard that Hyunjin was a fan of troye idk if it’s true or not but trying to threaten him is ridiculous we all got a little crush on hyunjin he’s no different 😭
i want to remind u how toxic armys gave d;ath threats to SZA , olivia rodrigo for going near v in grammys and Ariana Grande for winning Grammy against BTS. Boy groups fandoms can be so shameful sometimes.
wow i didnt even know this as an army im so embarrased for real cause i know that celebs like ari are more famous than BTS so we dont need hate on other celebs due to nonsense reasons
As someone who gives zero flying Fs about which country music comes from, which language the songs are in, this makes me so upset 😭 like why can't we just enjoy good music together without comparing others? The diversity of all kinds of music is what i love!
The Jeno one was probably not at all because the photographer thought all Asians look alike, probably more of an issue just not knowing Kpop groups at all. Of course she would put a pic of Jeno up, she photographed him and me him in the fashion world. Fans should be a little more lenient with non-fans when kpop stars venture into other industries.
People should stop sending hate for stupid reasons. Troye didn't deserve any of this. Like, I understand bashing the Weekend because throughout the massive flop that is The Idol, he was so obnoxious and full of himself (and Levinson is just a creepy man that ruined his own show and mistreated everyone behind the scenes) and they basically ruined Jenny's debut on a tv series. But hating Troye Sivan just because he actually appreciate Hyunjin as a person and as an artist? What's your problem, people?? The same goes for hating on Sidney. Some kpop fans are just toxic.
The problem the K-pop fans have with Troye is the fact that he is gay. There are still so many homophobic people in this world that treat people like Troye as second class citizens just because of whom they like.
Stays I saw mostly found it cute that Troye is a fan of Hyunjin (and also the other SKZ members). I personally found it hard to believe that a Stay would send a death threat to Troye. It could be a hater for all we know.
The funniest thing is the 'Fans' do the shipping *themselves.* And then hate the person being shipped, *themselves.* ALL the while the idols/artists are victims who basically have Zero clue why they're getting hated on.
@@estkioo They did it by mistake and yeah maybe that's ignorant but when kpop idols do racist stuff by being ignorant yall try to justify their actions.
Why do kpop stans ALWAYS assume straight away that when a famous none korean person talks nicely and fangirl/fanboys over a kpop idol, that theyre just doing it for clout? Why cant someone JUST BE NICE? I do understand that a lot of western artist HAS done this only for clout but not all of them are like that, this is why kpop fans are often the but of a joke or are geniunely feared bc you cant say anything positive or negative without them going full on psychos. Also even if he wasnt just being nice, he doesnt "need" a famous kpop idol to gain attention, I love Hyunjin but Troye is a very popular western artist
Treating some of the biggest stars in the US like sasaengs is wild. If Beyoncé posted a pic with Taehyung or JK or Karina, I’m sure some folks will find a way to reduce things to clout chasing 😂
Exactly. I find that hilarious too, like K-pop music is modeled after western music and people are just now starting to recognize K-pop artists. Hence, why most people only know BTS and black pink , most people don’t’ even know them!
@@buttarain27 Facts. JK & Jimin just got on the US Billboard 100 with the past few months and BTS have been in the game for over a decade. The chances that huge A or even B list Western celebrities using members from smaller groups like Aespa and IVE for clout is pretty low because their main Western fan base doesn’t even know who they are. 💀
*Troye is insanely talented, well-known and successful.* It's not a shocking deal that kids from Bully School of Korea come over to trash every other person to show how their favs are bigger/better. They don't know or care to know if the other person is already a huge artist or not.
So is Stray kids, so you shouldn't talk shit about them or their country just because the bs their fans do. The way you act, it'll make ppl hate troye more. And SKZ when it's not their fault. Common sense plz
I feel my heart got broken into million pieces when stays sending Troye Sivan a death threat, Both of them are my idol (Troye Sivan was my idol since 2013 and Hyunjin is my bias in SKZ) and I got finally to see them in one frame but yet stays ruined it
KPop fans are simply scary! Any non-Korean celebrities should stay far far away from KPop idols, do not mention KPop, do not take any picture with KPop idols, do not even look at any KPop idols at the events, or just totally avoid going to Korea at this point 😂
I think it’s definitely wrong the tweets Latto had out and she needs to apologize and state that she has matured but I also think it’s very hypocritical because majority of Koreans are the first ones to treat anyone with COLOR with discrimination. Never mind all the black face they do. Anyway I’m all for calling out people who are wrong but also look in the mirror.
I agree with this 100%. Let’s not act like people of color, especially black people are whole heartedly welcomed in many Asian communities. The criticism is twofold.
@@ShayP76 exactly! I’ve heard from Koreans that moved to the states that say that they make fun of you in school if you have any hue of color even if you’re Korean. Explains why their products have whitening in it as well. All discrimination from any side is wrong.
@@zaeg1115 understanding should be given and had on both sides. I can almost be sure a lot of those same people coming after Latto for her very immature and ignorant comments are the same ones who call darker skinned people in Korea all kinds of ugly names. I wish we would all just learn to accept everyone as human beings first and not the color of someone’s skin or being from a culture you don’t understand.
These are the same people who said BTS were better than Michael Jackson if that ain't laughable I don't know what is🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 they're all toxic not one is sane they can't even handle people saying they need to work on their vocals more and less dancing.
I think it’s funny how the idols in kpop are really just like western artists but y’all refuse to admit that and accept this fake image they are forced to put out. I’m a fan of kpop but a lot of the fanbase is toxic and immature. Especially when your favs become more “western.” Kpop fans want their idols to be popular and successful, but they are just going to stay at a plateau if they can’t express themselves, make mistakes, be sexual (especially when they consent to it), date PUBLICLY, etc. …long story short you hate on western idols when your holy kpop idols do the same things behind closed doors🫶🏼
Rabid kpop fans are the scary ones, back when there's this BTS x McDonald's collab meal, the tray has this paper placemat with a printed picture of the group, after eating I'm to discard all the leftovers and folded the paper and a random girl in her teens screamed at me, girl is so unhinged I immediately left before she gets violent.
Though I don’t really care about what goes on in kpop fandoms. I have seen some worse things in other fandoms, some I used to be in. The glass in cupcakes incident and the needle in cookies thing.
I swear KPOP Stan’s are thee most immature people in the world. Seriously why do you all focus so much on someone you don’t even know? Like why do you care so much if someone is dating another person? Or taking a photo? And you all wonder why there is so much trauma and death in KPOP.
Thank you. All thanks to western pop fans for teaching us how to be toxic. And we're making you taste your own medicine. We ain't going down alone, we'll drag you down with us because it's your fault to make us toxic (I'm referring to the western pop fans, I ain't targeting you)
If the celebrities want to collaborate with other people or groups from a different country let them. Fans don't have no say so. Fans need to get over it. Like Coldplay said before he did the collaboration with BTS. Thier from a different country he was scared at first. But he also said they also became friends.
there was cupid playing and i said it was kpop. they asked if it was bts… cupid does not even sound like boys singing😂 then they asked blackpink??? i think those are the only two groups in kpop now 👍👍👍
It’s because they are the most popular. So it DOES make sense that they are the only groups non K-pop fans know about. But yeah, it can be a bit annoying sometimes haha@@hdajq892ey7
I feel like 4:02 and 5:54 was a valid reason for fans to be mad. But everything else is just ridiculous Edit- fans also need to understand that idols are humans not robots they can control. If a K-pop idol wants to do something they should be able to do it since it’s their choice. ( some K-pop fans and fandom make me so mad sometimes)
As a kpop fan I totally disagree with the Sydney Sweeney and Troye Sivan situation like you seriously thing such well known artists need these idols for popularity like Sydney and Troye both have a strong fan base in the west and have given hit dramas and songs like please get out of your delusion it’s getting to much (I am in no way saying these artists aren’t famous just saying that people should enjoy interactions rather then being stupid)
About everyone who's been wrong on recognized the idol isn't that just a normal thing? Even ur idol don't recognize western celebrity and called them as a wrong persong but y'all calling it funny and cute, just like Dahyun when Twice played a game guessing name of the artist she kept saying everyone by Leonardo DiCaprio isn't that just the same like those people who only know BTS? Gah damn the fans nowadays just so stupid I'ma be quitting on being K-Pop fans.
Latto's verse was fine because the song is sexual anyway. Now her past tweets were definitely problematic and considering she was only a teen I wouldn't see a issue but deleting them to try to hide is weird imo.
I think it's kpop trying to find international market in the west. So these childish fans should behave because it's in their favourite idols' interests. Smh
Troye doesn’t deserve such hate. He was just being friendly. And Sydney doesn’t have to use Woonyoung. She’s talented and has already established a career in Hollywood. These fans are delusional.
ok in troye and hyunin's case it was stupid shippers i.e. hyunlixers and felix's fans who did the threat!ng towards troye. u can see in the video that two of felix fans were h@ting on troye. there were so many tweets from felix fans h@ting on troye for some unknown reason. hyunjin fans had to group with troye fans and force some of them to delete their tweet. Glad that troye didn't get discouraged by all of this and started following hyunjin on insta.
So the Kpop hate crowd has now filtered into the western universe and sending threatening comments to celebritys who are not Asian. Sounds like racism dressed up as concern. We don't need that type of behaviour this side of the border. If you want to do something important complain to the SK govt who work their Kpop idols into the ground.. or sort out your fanbase and get rid of haters who in some cases have had Kpop idols commit suicide..I know SK fanbases expect international fans to put up with their abuse and expect us to stay quiet and have no opinions whatsoever well in one ear and out the other...
People can think about us Westerners be it in North America or Europe....we dont care.... but no matter what you say the western market is very strong and some of the celebs are worldwide known and also for decades. And if I am not mistaken the boyband blueprint comes from the West which Korea adopted...sure they made their own thing out of it but still you cant deny that they adopted it from the West. Also a lot of actors or singer around the globe will "use" especially the american celebs for collabs and what not to get more into the industry and to tell the world that they exist as well. The word use may sound harsh BUT at the and of the day people use each other even for the most positive intentions. Yeah kpop blew up the last few years but believe me it still didnt take over the world as much as some may think. I really like the music , music in general from the world regardless how popular it is in the world.... but some people should touch some grass and go out a bit more and stop being delusional idiots. If I imagine the whole western market to be like the kpop industry regarding the delulu fans the western market would be down already. I really dont understand these weird kpop fans who act like this. All these celebs dont know you even exist. It is ok to call people out for real reasons but not for every stupid thing.
Kpop did take over the world bruh tf you talking about. And talk about how western pop fans constantly hating on Kpop like they got an aptitude of hating Kpop
@@KenTakakura666 there are a lot of places where kpop is still not a thing and isnt mainstream like latino music, which got literally everywhere mainstream after Despacito, even though there were people out there listening and some songs were on the radio. After Despacito a lot of artists could be seen on tv, heard on radio, in clubs etc. Well with kpop there is still room for improvement to become mainstream. Idk where you live...maybe in your place kpop is huge but the world is big. In my country you wont hear kpop anywhere unless someone is organizing a themed party with kpop music. And the West isnt just the US. The popularity of kpop is rising but not established everywhere.
The fact that samsung cannot remember the names one of the most popular members of one of the most popular boy groups just baffles me and in this entire video, they're are the only ones who deserve all this backlash
As a stay, I am deeply sorry about the behaviour of other stays but at this point I’m not calling them stays I’m calling them leaves💀sorry about Troy y’all
Latto don't have to apologize for shit , every time us black/mixed Kpop fans ask for a apology from Kpop idols because they do racist things & say racist thing about us for the billionth time we get the same excuses like " They don't know any better " , " They were teenagers " , " They didn't say Nigga , they said Naega/Niga ( Although the song they mimic say Nigga ) " & etc then we get rude feedback from non-black Kpop fans saying " You don't deserve an apology " , " Get over it, you Blacks always making it about race " & etc. My response to the Latto thing is what they say to us on a daily.
I like Troye, and there’s nothing wrong with him wanting to be friends with Hyunjin. And the homophobic remarks got me so angry at the toxic fans, actually those aren’t real fans.
Samsung was literally guessing who he was .. quite weird as a professional south korean company .. anyways it was a funny thing but next they should be aware on who's who ..
Troye has a lot of fans, and euphoria is a popular tv show If anything it introduces kpop stars to people that are not familiar with the idols so other people don’t mistake the idols for bts or blackpink
Kpop fans watch their idols 24/7 and think that their faces are the hottest shit on the planet and everyone else is watching them 24/7 just like they do , the audacity to think that Sydney is going to ride on wonyoung's fame😂😂. As if wonyoung is the only and most popular person to ever exist.
@@lilacc224 Umm...like myself as a non asian, i can tell the diff between irene and joy, jungkook and jimin, even idols who look alike like Hyunjin and Yeji. Thats ignorance or racism, because idols don't look the same at all. I know lots of idols who even get confused of being lookalikes, and still know that that's haerin and sunoo lmaoo
great to see that Kpop fans are using their energy focusing on the real important things in the world. Love how they effectively infantalise their idols by speaking for them without solicitation or aproval. I love Kpop, but a good cohort of fans are really next level bonkers. :)
leaving out the fact that most stays was mad bc troye is not a good person lmfao be so srs i dont condone sending death threats and those ppl that did that should be more than embarrassed but dont make it seem like stays were just made bc he was w hyunjin
Look what troye did was wrong ,ya removing the watermark from the person video is wrong but y'all use that as an opportunity to send death threats and made many homophobic comments towards him like srsly how u gonna gatekeep someone but also congratulate them for being popular
@@swduc2836 I don't care about any beef between them both. That's non of my business, and in general fan wars are something I don't get involved with. I'm just clarifying that most of the hate towards the song came from Nicki's fans... They came straight to Latto's ass but they also tried to sabotage a seven in many other ways. For example, there was this account on Twitter that changed their handle just to make it seem like it was a Morgan Wallen fan account but if you went back on their tweets, it was a Nicky stan account... They even called for other fandoms to stream Morgan Wallen to sabotage Seven... Literally.
@@swduc2836 just a question... Are you army? Cause I am, I am inside the fandom and I haven't seen much of what you claim... Maybe a couple, but very fringe comments tbh. Some where even cosplaying as armys when in reality they're antis.
I feel bad for troye like as a stay this is dumb why would y’all send death threats to him?? Like wtf is wrong with y’all?💀
And he did not do anything wrong at all.He just wanted to be friends with Hyunjin.He doesn't deserve this shit at all.
@@prudencempho1471he’s a Zionist and he’s racist
I know right?i hate those ‘fans’.
@@SunooAndHisHourGlass people don’t like him cuz he’s a Zionist and racist
Wonder if they would treat Justin Bieber or another *straight* pop star like this? Shipping and calling folks “fruity” is fun until there is an actual gay guy remotely interested in their fav apparently
A lot of this is silly because K-pop fans seems to think that Western celebrities don't have international fandoms. The interactions are very tame and friendly. There's no need to claim clout chasing or malicious intent. Things like this just cause the whole k-pop industry to become afraid to interact with anyone.
The problem is not her collaborating with Jungkook, is her racist remarks against his race, and the fact she hasn't apologized and deletes evidence. Idk how you made this into a Kpop vs West, or kpop fans thing but all of this started because ppl didn't know who Latto was, and are asking for an apology, which she hasn't given. Idk how you expect them to take this shit, when she herself is deleting the evidence of shit she needs to be criticized about.
@@ashantythegreat3231 Oh I wasn't talking about her. Yeah, hers is completely racist and it lacks accountability. I meant the rest.
Then yes, the word 'clout chasing' is always used against non kpop idols even similar comments are made about idols themselves and their label mates. Those people are what we call delulu stans. They love hurting their idols (not letting them date and speaks to them in general with entitlement) and hurting other west artists. But when they find a problematic person near their idol (not tryna defend toxic stans) but since fans think in mob and heroine, they want to cancel that person.
The only backlash I support is latto's because I find it ironic she is collaborating with a asian artist when she is or was racist herself, yet done the bare minimum of apologizing... @@rnw_kidlvl
That’s not why we hate this, it’s because we don’t want more and more idols to be influenced by the west, like they’re already being, for example jungkook, singing a song about fucking a girl right, being also the youngest member in bts, like why do we need songs like that? Why not only have a version with “loving you right” ?? They’re being influenced too much from the west, also with girl groups starting to try and twerk and show a lot of skin (boobs and their whole ass out) singing about twerking or some stupid shit like that, that doesn’t make any sense.
@@ashantythegreat3231well these western people are clout chasing, they see how much kpop and Korea has grown and they just want more and more fans by using these idols.
as a stay, troye didn’t even do anything- he just wanted to be friends with Hyunjin. nothing is wrong with that. some stays are so crazy 💀
Innit some kpop fans are something else I mean hasn't all fans dreamt of meeting there idols
@@Syeda-13 yea I have ✋🏽
Fr 😭
I think the main problem comes from the shippers , as a stay you must be aware how skz members are highly shipped with each other some see it as friends while some it as other ...
@@superstar-su7fg yea like Han and Lee know and Felix and Hyunjin
Sydney is waayyy bigger artist than wonyoung 😂 no way sydney clout chase from random kpop celebs kids needs to grow up
It makes me feel ashamed as a kpop fan that some are hating on them for no reason
Oh, for sure. I only talk about K-Pop with my family, other fans that seem chill and VERY close friends for this very reason. I don’t want to be associated with the delusional, mean “fans”.
ummm...latto said racist things about asians, and is collaborating with jungkook? That for me is a reason.
@@ashantythegreat3231 Yeah, I was just saying this for the other hate towards other artists who didn't do anything
oh yeah sure. And those western celeb fans feels proud hating on Kpop idol, is that it?
I saw a lot of death threats and homophobic remarks towards Troye. Very disappointing and sad that these “fans” spew such hatred over a photo. This is why we can’t have nice things 🙄
I'm not surprised there were death threats though i didn't seen one. What I saw - they were mostly pissed the way Troye 'fanboying'. IMO, it was obvious he was promoting his new song (on his business tiktok account, stolen a fan edit of Hyunjin). The timing made it sus and wrong. There are many western celebs adoring skz, but never opportunist like Troye did.
He’s a racist and Zionist don’t defend him. Be real HES a weirdo
Troy is a creep tho and he supports wrong stuff there was thread on him.
Being homophobic is flex tho...
@@Kiraaa-vp5recool.
Kpop has broken the western market, western Artists are most supportive of them, no excuse for what certain artist's may have done in their past but its a shame that these kpop fans act so holy than hou in their perceived defence of their idols when they are the most ignorant and insulting themselves, so there is a lot of hypocrisy. If the idols have no problem who they work with, then neither should the fans
Side eye
It's actually unhealthy just to go along w/things and follow blindly just because an "idol" green lights something.
It's crazy how everyone wants K-pop to be more mainstream in the West and promotions back that claim, but as soon as it happens and barriers are broken; everyone is angry.
THIS!!!!!!
because they want kpop to be their "exotic" orientalist hobby, that's why, it's the main reason kpopies are so hateful of bts
@@someonethereQwtf did BTS do 😐😐
@@KenTakakura666
they're mainstream and people who like to have their secret exotic kpop hobby can't stand that
I love Stray Kids and it’s very upsetting to see how some of the fandom treated Troye.
Seriously whenever American artist come close to k pop artist these rude fans always said that they are interecting just for clouds but I think its big opportunity for them to promote in western industry so let them do whatever they want to do it's their choice whome they become frnds or not
That's exactly what I'm thinking. It is a good thing when their favourite Kpop idols are the ones who want to be friends with western artists but then if it is the other way round, they start to send death threats and leave hate to western artists. What a cruel world indeed.
Its so dumb that people think Sydney Sweeney took a pic with Wonyoung just for clout like bffr Sydney already has all the clout.
Right
Troye got hate for no reason?? Like he just wanted to know who Hyunjin was?? It's not like he was bashing Hyunjin, or anything rude or mean.
stays didn’t like him because he’s a zi0nist
i think the fact that a lot of the younger stays like to ship hyunjin with felix or whoever get mad and also people who know that hes a zi0nist i mean i personally don’t support him because of that but i know a lot of other people do just because they don’t know. he also stole a stays edit and put his music over it so he was basically using him to promote his muisc
the latto one about her past tweets is actually really stereotypically offensive (me being asian) considering i dont get offended very easily . what makes it worse is that the deleting is pretty much a straight up denial .
the rap was kinda explicit but i mean isn’t the entire song ?
i do think the fans doing the digging wasn’t that bad in that case
Im asian too and lets be real here. Jungkook is very talented, but it was his decision to collab with someone like Latto who is imo out of place and not fit in his fanbase. The hate which will unfold in the asian community is a given. Shouldve asked Halsey or some famous asian artist for collab in order to satisfy everyone
@@nerostile333The only person he needed to satisfy was himself. It's impossible to satisfy everyone on the planet so artists shouldn't even try. They should go in the creative direction they want to go in. Experimentation doesn't have to be safe. The members of BTS are men NOT cute little boys. Ppl are gonna have to come to terms with that sooner or later.
@@nerostile333what do u mean out of place , not fit the fandom?
@@sonamy1231000 its common sense that fans who listen to BTS/Jungkook will unlikely listen to "bad words"-hip hop from someone like Latto. I really dont understand that collab especially that Jungkook is more famous than Latto, no benefits at all.
@@nerostile333“or some famouse asain artist“ so he can only collabe with asain people?
Your not a real kpop fan if you’re sending death threats
그게 사실이라면 방탄소년단은 더 이상 팬이 많지 않을 거야 😂
@@hdajq892ey7어떻게
@@hdajq892ey7it’s not only bts Stan’s kid it’s the whole kpop fandom that’s why every kpop fan is made fun of because they goofy asf
They are. We have to hold others in our fandom accountable rather than try and seperate them from us. Yes we may not be toxic fans, but we must acknowledge that toxic fans exist.
one thing i'll never understand is kpop fans who think everyone wants to use their idols for fame. that's sydney sweeney from euphoria, one of the most popular shows in the world right now and her role is a HUGE. like... she's litterally in the same show that got zendaya an emmy. how tf is she gonna use wonyoung for clout? hello???
I don't know who Sidney is & I've never watched Euphoria, but I
@@silververnallbells191 that doesn't mean wonyoung is more popular.
Sydney may not be popular in Korea but she's very popular in western countries. Like everyone in the western knows her . She's popular than wonyoung. I don't know why wonyoung fans are so obsessed with that they drag everyone alongside her . These fans rlly need to stop.
Euphoria & Sydney are very popular
sydney australia? i’m confused can someone explain what are you taking about
@Stay123-xm5xc Wait you haven't watched or heard of the show euphoria?? In Europe majority of the people don't know who wonyoung is but they all have watched euphoria. You are one of the few who hasn't.
@Stay123-xm5xcshe’s from a popular Netflix show called Euphoria
Never heard of her…
Stays are weird af. Lmao they jealous cuz he got to meet their idol
Ikr?
But like all fandoms, there are those few rude, or over protective ‘fan’s.
not all are tho
Its mostly Hyunjin akgaes. Probably c-bars. Sadly there are a lot of them these days in the fandom
Yeah. It’s really upsetting as a stay. @@von1glik and being in multiple fandoms is worse ngl. Glad I am a carat tho haha i love carats! So chill 🤚😭
The delusions most kpop fans hv of western artist looking for clout is laughable. Kpop while popular and loud is still a very small subculture in the western music market but to fans it doesnt seem that way due to their obsessive nature of constantly invloved in the kpop content. Whats even worst is many western artisit arent pushing nor catering to the kpop genre yet many if not all kpop groups pander to the west or western artist for success. So really ask urself , who are the ones looking for clout. Lets not act like kpop is the biggest genre in the world becuz of ur own delusion.
this.
True.
Of course, it's K-pop looking for clout in the west
well said they think the world of music revolve around them which is cringe asf
No offense to Wonyoung, I like her but SYDNEY SWEENY is more famous than Wonyoung so why the hell would she “ride her fame”? Some K-pop stans are delusional sometimes and I’m saying that as a K-pop stan myself. Y’all need to touch grass. 😂
Interesting how Latto’s actions are unforgivable but kpop stars saying the nword is somehow excusable and they’re just naive and sheltered Lmaooo
True
IKR, Fact.
underrated
Saying the N word as part of a lyric is different than blatant racism.
i see how they could make the mistake. (i speak english fluently and i only know that the n word is racist i don’t even know what the n stands for) but apologizing is definitely necessary even if there was no malicious intent. it’s excusable if they apologise, or i would be a hypocrite to pretend i know more on that topic.
Girl can't even take a selfie with Wonyoung without getting hate, If fans can do it she can also! Leave people alone it ain't that deep.
And the fact that they think SYDNEY SWEENY doing it for CLOUTTTT???
this mentality of hating on anyone who interacts w your fav idol is gonna scare off potential western collaborators and make it harder for these groups to become mainstream in the western market where collabs can drive a lot of fanbase growth
People need to bffr 😭😭😭 kpop idols dont belong to us. Literally millions of skz fans are down bad for hyunjin, but if troye sivan talked to him for a bit and wanted to contact him, hes threatening their impossible fantasies. Lol
as if wonyoung is more famous than sydney sweeney?? kpop fans need to humble themselves💀
I’ve probably never watched or listened to anything she was in so I’m sorry who’s Sydney?
@@brennathecatlover4360She's one of the main actresses from Euphoria. And considering how huge *that* show is, Wonyoung's fans accusing her of clout chasing is beyond weird considering the level of fame she already has.
@@ohia_lehua what did she do that’s “clout chasing” sorry i just come on the channel for the comments and not watch the vid
@@brennathecatlover4360 the girls were seated next to each other and talked/took pictures together 💀 That's literally it lol.
@@ohia_lehua bruh huh? Wonyoung probably even watches that show😂
The hate on Troye Sivan is so unwarranted. D#### threats? If you're reading this and you were one of those who sent him that, you are a DISGRACE! Let them enjoy each other's company and be friends. You "fans" in the Kpop community make me sick.
personally i don’t care what he does if he likes hyunjin he likes hyunjin oh well. But most stays or whatever you want to call them are hating on him for being a zi0nist or using him for “clout” as he stole a stays edit and put his song over it the death threats are very unnecessary and are definitely not okay but him literally supporting people get k*lled is crazy imo
Thx for upload this topic
Seriously, not only western artist, any artist who interact the popular kpop idol, They get hate and criticized for no reasons.
Take an example:
Lee Mujin and BP Lisa's inkigayo case, Running Man BP and Jeon Somin case, Kim Yuna and Jisoo's Dior case, Twice Dahyun skipped Lalisa song case, IU interacted with Newjeans case, BamBam talked their favourite type is newjeans, Lisa and Lee Jung case etc
You can see any news about whos are interact with which kpop idol, they will get criticized as Pedo, Loser, tried to get attentions and popularity.
The kpop company using innocent pretty face human/minor to deceive and brainwash people and the public will do anything to protect these idol.
If the public keep criticized the people who interacted with them just for jealous or other reasons, no one would come to interact with them to avoid controversy and kpop idol will feel guilty for it..
I heard that Hyunjin was a fan of troye idk if it’s true or not but trying to threaten him is ridiculous we all got a little crush on hyunjin he’s no different 😭
i want to remind u how toxic armys gave d;ath threats to SZA , olivia rodrigo for going near v in grammys and Ariana Grande for winning Grammy against BTS. Boy groups fandoms can be so shameful sometimes.
ikr boygroup stans are the worst
wow i didnt even know this
as an army im so embarrased for real cause i know that celebs like ari are more famous than BTS so we dont need hate on other celebs due to nonsense reasons
Why do K-Pop fans really like to victimized their idol and act like everyone disrespecting them
As someone who gives zero flying Fs about which country music comes from, which language the songs are in, this makes me so upset 😭 like why can't we just enjoy good music together without comparing others? The diversity of all kinds of music is what i love!
This comment deserves to be pinned
The Jeno one was probably not at all because the photographer thought all Asians look alike, probably more of an issue just not knowing Kpop groups at all. Of course she would put a pic of Jeno up, she photographed him and me him in the fashion world. Fans should be a little more lenient with non-fans when kpop stars venture into other industries.
That's BS. A photographer knows the name of the model and they know well getting their photo taken w/big names = clout.
People should stop sending hate for stupid reasons. Troye didn't deserve any of this. Like, I understand bashing the Weekend because throughout the massive flop that is The Idol, he was so obnoxious and full of himself (and Levinson is just a creepy man that ruined his own show and mistreated everyone behind the scenes) and they basically ruined Jenny's debut on a tv series. But hating Troye Sivan just because he actually appreciate Hyunjin as a person and as an artist? What's your problem, people?? The same goes for hating on Sidney. Some kpop fans are just toxic.
The problem the K-pop fans have with Troye is the fact that he is gay. There are still so many homophobic people in this world that treat people like Troye as second class citizens just because of whom they like.
@@pinkiebeee2045the fact that theyre homophobic but shipped same sex idol together which is weird and childish
Stays I saw mostly found it cute that Troye is a fan of Hyunjin (and also the other SKZ members). I personally found it hard to believe that a Stay would send a death threat to Troye. It could be a hater for all we know.
...why can celebs not just interact with idols in cute innocent ways, without "fans" accusing them of clout chasing or sending them threats? wtf? :D
Exactly it’s so annoyingly 🤦🏽♀️
Sweeney riding on WY’s fame?
Y’all are out of your minds
The funniest thing is the 'Fans' do the shipping *themselves.*
And then hate the person being shipped, *themselves.*
ALL the while the idols/artists are victims who basically have Zero clue why they're getting hated on.
I feel so sorry for Lee Know and Jeno because that was so disrespectful
They didn't do it intentionally tho
@@funky_dynoit’s still racist and ignorant
@@estkioo And kpop idols acting the same is not?😂
@@rashmiwijethunga7490 literally has no correlation to the video of the photographer being ignorant. Keep defending her😭
@@estkioo They did it by mistake and yeah maybe that's ignorant but when kpop idols do racist stuff by being ignorant yall try to justify their actions.
Why do kpop stans ALWAYS assume straight away that when a famous none korean person talks nicely and fangirl/fanboys over a kpop idol, that theyre just doing it for clout? Why cant someone JUST BE NICE?
I do understand that a lot of western artist HAS done this only for clout but not all of them are like that, this is why kpop fans are often the but of a joke or are geniunely feared bc you cant say anything positive or negative without them going full on psychos.
Also even if he wasnt just being nice, he doesnt "need" a famous kpop idol to gain attention, I love Hyunjin but Troye is a very popular western artist
clout w/a "T" not cloud :)
@@silververnallbells191 Yeah, dumb auto correct '^^
Treating some of the biggest stars in the US like sasaengs is wild. If Beyoncé posted a pic with Taehyung or JK or Karina, I’m sure some folks will find a way to reduce things to clout chasing 😂
Exactly. I find that hilarious too, like K-pop music is modeled after western music and people are just now starting to recognize K-pop artists. Hence, why most people only know BTS and black pink , most people don’t’ even know them!
@@buttarain27 Facts. JK & Jimin just got on the US Billboard 100 with the past few months and BTS have been in the game for over a decade. The chances that huge A or even B list Western celebrities using members from smaller groups like Aespa and IVE for clout is pretty low because their main Western fan base doesn’t even know who they are. 💀
일부 그룹은 한국에서 매우 큰 팬층을 가지고 있지만 외국에서는 잘 알려져 있지 않습니다. 어떻게 팬들은 모든 사람들이 그들이 가장 좋아하는 아이돌을 알기를 기대할 수 있을까요?
so true 😂 they will call anyone clout chasing for interacting with their faves
@@felix-xd4mx ikr they think theyre the centre of the universe
Some fans need to chill, like srry to say but yall fav aint that special, and others don't necessarily want to take advantage of them 🙄🙄🙄
Kpop hater
@@norabeckwith6893 nobody hates kpop they just dont like the fans
@@_k__601 that's bs even kpop fans hate kpop they will drag kpop idols for ignorant stuff but will defend western artists so yea kpop fans suck
*Troye is insanely talented, well-known and successful.*
It's not a shocking deal that kids from Bully School of Korea come over to trash every other person to show how their favs are bigger/better.
They don't know or care to know if the other person is already a huge artist or not.
So is Stray kids, so you shouldn't talk shit about them or their country just because the bs their fans do. The way you act, it'll make ppl hate troye more. And SKZ when it's not their fault. Common sense plz
I feel my heart got broken into million pieces when stays sending Troye Sivan a death threat, Both of them are my idol (Troye Sivan was my idol since 2013 and Hyunjin is my bias in SKZ) and I got finally to see them in one frame but yet stays ruined it
KPop fans are simply scary!
Any non-Korean celebrities should stay far far away from KPop idols, do not mention KPop, do not take any picture with KPop idols, do not even look at any KPop idols at the events, or just totally avoid going to Korea at this point 😂
Same goes for Kpop idols should stay far away from western pop celebrities because of how toxic western pop fans are 😂
ikr
Everywhere is just hate hate hate and hate STOP IT NOW when you'll will grow up
I think it’s definitely wrong the tweets Latto had out and she needs to apologize and state that she has matured but I also think it’s very hypocritical because majority of Koreans are the first ones to treat anyone with COLOR with discrimination. Never mind all the black face they do. Anyway I’m all for calling out people who are wrong but also look in the mirror.
I agree with this 100%. Let’s not act like people of color, especially black people are whole heartedly welcomed in many Asian communities. The criticism is twofold.
@@ShayP76I mean black people are just as racist like both of u guys aren’t 100% victims 24/7
@@ShayP76 exactly! I’ve heard from Koreans that moved to the states that say that they make fun of you in school if you have any hue of color even if you’re Korean. Explains why their products have whitening in it as well. All discrimination from any side is wrong.
@@zaeg1115 understanding should be given and had on both sides. I can almost be sure a lot of those same people coming after Latto for her very immature and ignorant comments are the same ones who call darker skinned people in Korea all kinds of ugly names. I wish we would all just learn to accept everyone as human beings first and not the color of someone’s skin or being from a culture you don’t understand.
@@ShayP76 exactly 🫶🏼
Isn’t Samsung literally an SK company not a western company… sooo that just makes the situation even more sad
Kpop stans will force ppl to apologize for being racist but shut up when thyre ults r the ones being racists 😢
Didn't they go ballistic then Kpop idols were being racists? 😢 Why be a snowflake my man
It's okay to be a KPOP fan but it's not okay to be a TOXIC FAN.
KPOP fan = Toxic fan 😂😂😂
@@Userkangjihoon23451 Man no wonder why your brain is ant-sized 😂😂😂
These are the same people who said BTS were better than Michael Jackson if that ain't laughable I don't know what is🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 they're all toxic not one is sane they can't even handle people saying they need to work on their vocals more and less dancing.
@@WickedintheStarlight Bruh BTS IS better than Michael Jackson and it's laughable if you disagree 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@KenTakakura666 Man you must be both blind and deaf.
I keep getting disappointed in toxic STAYS giving Stayville a bad reputation.
I think it’s funny how the idols in kpop are really just like western artists but y’all refuse to admit that and accept this fake image they are forced to put out. I’m a fan of kpop but a lot of the fanbase is toxic and immature. Especially when your favs become more “western.” Kpop fans want their idols to be popular and successful, but they are just going to stay at a plateau if they can’t express themselves, make mistakes, be sexual (especially when they consent to it), date PUBLICLY, etc.
…long story short you hate on western idols when your holy kpop idols do the same things behind closed doors🫶🏼
Rabid kpop fans are the scary ones, back when there's this BTS x McDonald's collab meal, the tray has this paper placemat with a printed picture of the group, after eating I'm to discard all the leftovers and folded the paper and a random girl in her teens screamed at me, girl is so unhinged I immediately left before she gets violent.
방탄소년단 팬들은 꽤 망상적일 수 있다. 그 밴드의 멤버들은 신이 아니라 소년들이다.
wtf so embarrassing for her mahhnnnn as a kpop fan im so sorry for these delusional fans
Bro jennie chose to act its not like they dragged her and forced her to be a part of the drama
Though I don’t really care about what goes on in kpop fandoms. I have seen some worse things in other fandoms, some I used to be in. The glass in cupcakes incident and the needle in cookies thing.
Though I hate the racism towards Asians.
I swear KPOP Stan’s are thee most immature people in the world. Seriously why do you all focus so much on someone you don’t even know? Like why do you care so much if someone is dating another person? Or taking a photo? And you all wonder why there is so much trauma and death in KPOP.
Thank you. All thanks to western pop fans for teaching us how to be toxic. And we're making you taste your own medicine. We ain't going down alone, we'll drag you down with us because it's your fault to make us toxic (I'm referring to the western pop fans, I ain't targeting you)
If the celebrities want to collaborate with other people or groups from a different country let them. Fans don't have no say so. Fans need to get over it. Like Coldplay said before he did the collaboration with BTS. Thier from a different country he was scared at first. But he also said they also became friends.
The Jeno one made me laugh💀
@@benedettaaaaa_ 😭😭💀 I feel bad for him. Like bro if someone said “I got to meet a member of BTS!” I would sob.
At this point westerners who only heard abt KPOP, only know & heard abt BTS😂😊. For them kpop, its Bts
I don't think this is something to be happy about. What about Lee know and jeno, have you ever considered how they felt about that.
@@shortznig2938 yeah like bro- I’d cry if some old lady called me a Bts members. 😭🤚
there was cupid playing and i said it was kpop. they asked if it was bts… cupid does not even sound like boys singing😂 then they asked blackpink??? i think those are the only two groups in kpop now 👍👍👍
It’s because they are the most popular. So it DOES make sense that they are the only groups non K-pop fans know about. But yeah, it can be a bit annoying sometimes haha@@hdajq892ey7
@@hdajq892ey7But ig this is how things start so not a big deal.
Loads of people think every anime is Naruto in the beginning.
I feel like 4:02 and 5:54 was a valid reason for fans to be mad. But everything else is just ridiculous
Edit- fans also need to understand that idols are humans not robots they can control. If a K-pop idol wants to do something they should be able to do it since it’s their choice. ( some K-pop fans and fandom make me so mad sometimes)
These uppity fans are gunna isolate their own favs because of their behaviour.
As a kpop fan I totally disagree with the Sydney Sweeney and Troye Sivan situation like you seriously thing such well known artists need these idols for popularity like Sydney and Troye both have a strong fan base in the west and have given hit dramas and songs like please get out of your delusion it’s getting to much (I am in no way saying these artists aren’t famous just saying that people should enjoy interactions rather then being stupid)
I love Troye Sivan! Maybe he genuinely just wanted to be friends with Hyunjin and talk about making music.
Not just western artists tbh!
Literally anyone who just stares at their favourites, they will get hate and threats over it...
Some Kpop stans can be so exhausting
4:30 that's so embarrassing
3:08 I used to pronounce IVE is Ivy but found out it was pronounced Ive from Hive.
About everyone who's been wrong on recognized the idol isn't that just a normal thing? Even ur idol don't recognize western celebrity and called them as a wrong persong but y'all calling it funny and cute, just like Dahyun when Twice played a game guessing name of the artist she kept saying everyone by Leonardo DiCaprio isn't that just the same like those people who only know BTS? Gah damn the fans nowadays just so stupid I'ma be quitting on being K-Pop fans.
Latto's verse was fine because the song is sexual anyway. Now her past tweets were definitely problematic and considering she was only a teen I wouldn't see a issue but deleting them to try to hide is weird imo.
I think it's kpop trying to find international market in the west. So these childish fans should behave because it's in their favourite idols' interests. Smh
Troye doesn’t deserve such hate. He was just being friendly. And Sydney doesn’t have to use Woonyoung. She’s talented and has already established a career in Hollywood. These fans are delusional.
That's how far Kpop has become TOXIC. IT'S BECOMING WAY WORSE. 😢
ok in troye and hyunin's case it was stupid shippers i.e. hyunlixers and felix's fans who did the threat!ng towards troye. u can see in the video that two of felix fans were h@ting on troye. there were so many tweets from felix fans h@ting on troye for some unknown reason. hyunjin fans had to group with troye fans and force some of them to delete their tweet. Glad that troye didn't get discouraged by all of this and started following hyunjin on insta.
The thing about being a westerner is we don’t care about people’s opinions of us. Some of us even love the hate
as a long time k-pop stan, some ‘fans’ really need to be humbled and realise the world doesn’t revolve around just kpop.
Sydney is more popular than wonyoung so like what are people even talking about
So the Kpop hate crowd has now filtered into the western universe and sending threatening
comments to celebritys
who are not Asian. Sounds like racism dressed up as concern.
We don't need that type of behaviour this side of the border. If you want to do something important complain to the SK govt who work their Kpop idols into the ground.. or sort out your fanbase and get rid of haters who in some cases have had Kpop idols commit suicide..I know SK fanbases expect international fans to put up with their abuse and expect us to stay quiet and have no opinions whatsoever well
in one ear and out the other...
4:32
Sure, the admin was an army. Lol
People can think about us Westerners be it in North America or Europe....we dont care.... but no matter what you say the western market is very strong and some of the celebs are worldwide known and also for decades.
And if I am not mistaken the boyband blueprint comes from the West which Korea adopted...sure they made their own thing out of it but still you cant deny that they adopted it from the West.
Also a lot of actors or singer around the globe will "use" especially the american celebs for collabs and what not to get more into the industry and to tell the world that they exist as well.
The word use may sound harsh BUT at the and of the day people use each other even for the most positive intentions.
Yeah kpop blew up the last few years but believe me it still didnt take over the world as much as some may think. I really like the music , music in general from the world regardless how popular it is in the world.... but some people should touch some grass and go out a bit more and stop being delusional idiots. If I imagine the whole western market to be like the kpop industry regarding the delulu fans the western market would be down already.
I really dont understand these weird kpop fans who act like this. All these celebs dont know you even exist.
It is ok to call people out for real reasons but not for every stupid thing.
Kpop did take over the world bruh tf you talking about. And talk about how western pop fans constantly hating on Kpop like they got an aptitude of hating Kpop
@@KenTakakura666 there are a lot of places where kpop is still not a thing and isnt mainstream like latino music, which got literally everywhere mainstream after Despacito, even though there were people out there listening and some songs were on the radio. After Despacito a lot of artists could be seen on tv, heard on radio, in clubs etc.
Well with kpop there is still room for improvement to become mainstream. Idk where you live...maybe in your place kpop is huge but the world is big.
In my country you wont hear kpop anywhere unless someone is organizing a themed party with kpop music. And the West isnt just the US.
The popularity of kpop is rising but not established everywhere.
The fact that samsung cannot remember the names one of the most popular members of one of the most popular boy groups just baffles me and in this entire video, they're are the only ones who deserve all this backlash
As a stay, I am deeply sorry about the behaviour of other stays but at this point I’m not calling them stays I’m calling them leaves💀sorry about Troy y’all
Latto don't have to apologize for shit , every time us black/mixed Kpop fans ask for a apology from Kpop idols because they do racist things & say racist thing about us for the billionth time we get the same excuses like " They don't know any better " , " They were teenagers " , " They didn't say Nigga , they said Naega/Niga ( Although the song they mimic say Nigga ) " & etc then we get rude feedback from non-black Kpop fans saying " You don't deserve an apology " , " Get over it, you Blacks always making it about race " & etc. My response to the Latto thing is what they say to us on a daily.
THE SIDNEY AND WOONY ONE 💀💀💀💀💀💀 Why would she use wonny for clout
those death threats to troye sure as hell ain't necessary
And now troye sivan released a collaboration with hyunjin (and the pinkpantheress) so i bet those ppl are raging mad-
The Sydney thing was so stretched. I love both Sydney and wongie they both looked amazing
I like Troye, and there’s nothing wrong with him wanting to be friends with Hyunjin. And the homophobic remarks got me so angry at the toxic fans, actually those aren’t real fans.
Gay man right here
Samsung was literally guessing who he was .. quite weird as a professional south korean company .. anyways it was a funny thing but next they should be aware on who's who ..
These fans think their idols are the center of the universe smh
I'm so mad at stays for attacking Troye, I feel so bad that he got so much hate :(
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Guys let the old voice owner have vacation ❤
Troye has a lot of fans, and euphoria is a popular tv show
If anything it introduces kpop stars to people that are not familiar with the idols so other people don’t mistake the idols for bts or blackpink
Kpop fans watch their idols 24/7 and think that their faces are the hottest shit on the planet and everyone else is watching them 24/7 just like they do , the audacity to think that Sydney is going to ride on wonyoung's fame😂😂. As if wonyoung is the only and most popular person to ever exist.
Wth? JK released an explicit version of the song which totally talks about s*x. So, why bash LATTO's rap parts if it really meant that? 🤦
I am now numb to the new narrator because I miss the previous one
I'm honestly not surprised that those companies would not be able to "tell K-pop idols apart"
but Samsung is a Korean company you would think they would have some idea who they invited
@@MsKaz1000 That's true...
wat do u mean by that?
@@ashantythegreat3231 I mean, they just think they all stereotypically look the same (as Asians) and don't give it much thought
@@lilacc224 Umm...like myself as a non asian, i can tell the diff between irene and joy, jungkook and jimin, even idols who look alike like Hyunjin and Yeji.
Thats ignorance or racism, because idols don't look the same at all. I know lots of idols who even get confused of being lookalikes, and still know that that's haerin and sunoo lmaoo
Troy should ignore the trolls
great to see that Kpop fans are using their energy focusing on the real important things in the world. Love how they effectively infantalise their idols by speaking for them without solicitation or aproval. I love Kpop, but a good cohort of fans are really next level bonkers. :)
😂😂😂The samsung one ,killed me .
Samsung's move was truly funny yet dumb, but Samsung isn't a Western company.. 😂
leaving out the fact that most stays was mad bc troye is not a good person lmfao be so srs
i dont condone sending death threats and those ppl that did that should be more than embarrassed but dont make it seem like stays were just made bc he was w hyunjin
Look what troye did was wrong ,ya removing the watermark from the person video is wrong but y'all use that as an opportunity to send death threats and made many homophobic comments towards him like srsly how u gonna gatekeep someone but also congratulate them for being popular
Most of the hate towards Latto came from Nikki Minaj fans... I followed it closely and they where the ones behind most of the hate cause... Fan wars 😒
@@swduc2836 I don't care about any beef between them both. That's non of my business, and in general fan wars are something I don't get involved with. I'm just clarifying that most of the hate towards the song came from Nicki's fans... They came straight to Latto's ass but they also tried to sabotage a seven in many other ways. For example, there was this account on Twitter that changed their handle just to make it seem like it was a Morgan Wallen fan account but if you went back on their tweets, it was a Nicky stan account... They even called for other fandoms to stream Morgan Wallen to sabotage Seven... Literally.
@@swduc2836 just a question... Are you army? Cause I am, I am inside the fandom and I haven't seen much of what you claim... Maybe a couple, but very fringe comments tbh. Some where even cosplaying as armys when in reality they're antis.