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Btw he is not the only creepy guy in Liberty city there is that bodyguard of Salvatore Leone, who give you the mission where you need to kill some chainsaw psichos.
If I'm not mistaken, I think you can play as Darkel by entering the pedestrian code a bunch of times. There's even a female pedestrian that doesn't appear anywhere else in the game that can be played as. Now, keep in mind, I'm going by memory here, but that Darkel model looks familiar.
Rockstar Games: "Darkel was just a crazy bum and he gives you crazy missions. And we thought he couldn't fit with game dynamics" Also Rockstar Games: *Adds Trevor as main character*
I have a theory. Just look at the GTA 2 rampage missions, see the guy at the lower left of the screen? I think that's Darkel. I think when Rockstar started developing GTA 3 they decided to make the rampages to be given by that same man but this time they gave him an identity: Darkel. What do you think Vadim? I would like to hear your opinion about this.
Well, Rockstar wanted Gta 3 to be in same universe as the 2D universe, hinting why theirs Zaibatsu posters in older screenshots and the graphics are like cartoony sorta like the 2D universe. So chances are they wanted more stuff from the 2D universe Like the 7 gangs from gta 2 in that interview, and the most likely wanted to gta 2 rampage guy have a identity.
@EchoStorm Point is they said it after the release of GTA 3, after Darkel was already removed from the game. If he was the GTA 2 guy, they wouldn't be lying since he still isn't in the 3D universe
Head Cannon: Darkel was never "real", he was a character in the game with a model and voice actor, but he's just a figment of Claude’s imagination, a manifestation of Claude’s violent nature
there is no violent nature in him (who's "claude" btw? never heard of him), he just goes with the flow all the time and that's kinda cool nihilistic tingle in the story if you ask me
@@IntrusiveCuckholeGenerator you didn't really provide any arguments . You just said it's bad because it's nihlsitic tingle (and it isn't nihlsitic at all. Claud isn't supposed to be a good guy). The game is literally named after a felony
@@blackbeast9268 Claude is a bad guy. But he only cares about money. He is the most evil and psychotic protagonist. He is also the coldest and doesn't care about anything unless you respect him or give him money or stay out of his way. But if you are his target, your life is doomed because he is coming with his shotgun and M16.
Seriously. We know they changed the first responders to not resemble NY after 9/11 but we’re suppose to pretend this dude still left in the game files wasn’t cut because of 9/11 lol. I don’t get it
Spartan Kong Country yea okay you buy the governments line on that one. Nope not me. The governments lied to me before, have you ever heard of the gulf on Tonkin incident? I was a former Governor, a fighter, a navy seal, I was on the inside. And even they won’t let me go inside a woman’s restroom, why? What are they trying to hide? well I’m here to get to the bottom Of it.
When i was little i had a magazine with Darkel's Involvement in future GTA Games ''Darkel was always the player invisioned. The need to go on random rampages, a version of him is someway portraied in GTA I AND II. In GTA III , Darkel gives you missions such as ''Minimum Bureaucracy'' Darkel can be found at the trail railways and can be used as a quest giver. It involves takeing the train for the first time in GTA III and serves as an introduction, however Darkel ties a politician to the tracks and Claude is forced to watch as the train he took splashes the Politician. We all love the upcoming GTA: San Andreas and are excited to see what role he will play in side the gangster riddled world of San Andreas.'' It was a very knock off magazine that contained loads like this but for now this is all i can find by googling it. It was called ''Risky'' and it was a gaming magazine that used to leak information about upcoming games and trailers.
Too evil, dark and gruesome? We helped lure Marty Chonk's wife in and she got ground into dog food. You even hear when she realizes what's about to happen and yells 'Stop'. *Schlrch*
@@malletUsergaming She was delivered thinking she was just going to spend talk with Marty, her husband. She most definitely did not 'choose' to get ground into dog food.
The tunnel you mentioned was supposed to be or an entrance to Darkel. The missions that where deleted where most likely replaced into the rampages spread along the island. That is what i think.
I have an idea how he could have been a rampage icon. Maybe unlike the rampages we got, because he is a man he would only be in one spot at a time, find him and do the mission. The rampages were multiple over the map,although they did move location if you failed them, maybe Darkel was gonna do that too I dunno. Or there were going to be multiple Darkels standing around because that's what video games do sometimes.
I never really bought the idea that the Dodo wasn't meant to be flown. I remember when GTA3 came out and we found the Dodo, getting it flying took about two minutes of experimenting and it didn't ever seem like exploiting a bug or anything, it was clearly just made to be difficult to fly but certainly not impossible to do and the technique isn't really a bug. From what has been said it seems to me that Darkel was probably seen as just a bit too much which is saying something in a game as controversial as GTA3.
well I think that DMA design (aka Rockstar North) was actually planning to make planes drivable in GTA 3, because like you said, the dodo has a weird contro,scheme to fly, but it can fly once you get the hang of it, but because it was their first 3D gta and they either didnt have enough time to finish the flying mechanics or had to scrap it for being too difficult to implement. they scrapped the entire concept, but left some working code on the dodo and didn't bother to erase it and instead cut its wings and call it "deaddodo", justifying why you shouldn't be able to fly it. They also probably scrapped the flying mechanic because of the GTA 3 map not being fully modeled for flying in the first place, if the player was able to fly then he would see a lot of unfinished areas around the top of the buildings. So yeah, TL;DR: It is possible that they were working on the concept of claude being able to fly a plane like the skimmer in Vice City, but it was cut due to either being too time consuming to implement or they couldnt get it right.
Thanks so much for making these videos. I'm always on the look out for old magazines and anything I can that might aid in the quest for beta knowledge. All we can hope is that someone at Rockstar realises that a lot of people care - and maybe throws us a bone someday.
Not interested? Why?? To me, it was very nostalgic and interesting to see how the city and the characters changed from GTA 3 - I smiled in the 1st 10 minutes of the game when I saw my first safehouse, a building that was in ruins in GTA 3. How can this be not interesting to you as a researcher whose entire channel is dedicated to comparisons? No, I'm not asking for 3 vc LCS comparsion, I just mean even seeing the obvious differences between these two games is interesting, and imagine what you could do with your finding beta material and stuff skills.
They removed Darkel because there was a mission where you have to destroy school bus maybe there are kids in there who knows? And it was at the time of where 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center.
@@Heat7208 you did not pay attention because when he mentions that he also said that Dan Houser denied their being a mission to blow up kids in a school bus. His character got scrapped because he did not mash well with the other characters.
If only he was brought over to GTA V. Could just imagine him being a character who would be a bum in Sandy Shores near Trevor. Could even see him being a wacko who could supply Trevor with some of his more illicit goods. Maybe Ron would voice his concerns over Trevor’s association with him, but would be told off. Maybe in terms of outfit Darkel could instead be wearing some old army fatigues and have a missing leg which would be replaced with a prosthetic. His madness could be attributed to shell shock.
As we all know, the majority of game mechanics in GTA 3 are introduced to the player in the mission, be that driving, buying weapons, scoped shooting with sniper rifle, rigging a car with a bomb and so on. I guess, Darkel supposed to be a character that explains Rampage mechanic to the player, so one of his missions (perhaphs a very first) was dedicated to it.
I Got a theory. Remember the cutscene "Love's Disappearance"? So there was a said mission of Darkel that says to fly the Dodo to his large home. Maybe Darkel really told us players to kill him if Darkel really exists, then that is why Love disappeared.
I used to be good at flying the dodo and landed it on top of the Lovemedia building and was able to check out the Japanese garden you see in the cutscenes. Very interesting to hear you were supposed to destroy that building by crashing a dod into it...especially given the timing of the game's release.
Woah! But if Darkel missions were deleted why El Burro's one are available to play and restarts themselves if you leave Portland?I mean, come on, Burro's missions are violent too, not like "Darkel ones" but still violent.
Darkel was clearly inspired by Fight Club, since the movie came out right around that timeframe I can't tell if it was due to it or the book. Also I do believe the Love Hurts myth, Rockstar has been caught lying blatantly about cut features from their games due to controversy, plus it helps connect the dots over Donald Love's disappearance.
Dodo wasn't meant to fly, but flying vehicle could have different name instead. And when they cut off the wings - they renamed it Dodo. And I don't believe Dan Houser's quote about these mission weren't even finished. A few months before release it's time to polish the game, fix some bugs, optimise. And not to leave a couple of missions undone.
I'm sorry but you clearly know nothing about video game development. Rockstar (and most major companies) use a concept called 'crunch' where up until the last days or hours they're making changes. It's incredibly naïve to assume that games are effectively complete "months" before release with just polishing and bug fixes required. You can see some of the beta videos that were less than 2 months away from the full release with major changes having been made between that and release.
I'd love to imagine a GTA game where homeless people are just destroying the town overtime, it puts a whole new dynamic on GTA differentiating from the typical Gang/Mafia ties. Plus it could set up for some amazing missions
So basically, i assume darkel was just a beta idea for these rampage missions, later scrapped, and instead of character development its idea was used as side mission content. if thats the case, then its uh... pretty shallow of rockstar for that time.
It always made sense that they cut him after 911. And they wouldn't admit that even later to not draw any heat to gta, because they already had a lot of problems with this franchise, probably everyone remembers San Andreas problems with ESRB rating after they discovered that there are unused files in a game and "terrorist like missins" would calssify also as... Adult Only. Disappearance of Donald Love in GTA 3 is somewhat weird, and unexplained, it feels like there is a hole in the plot. That's why it always made sense that the mission would be to end him. And Dodo supposedly never should fly, but somehow it does. It's not that players used bugs to make it fly, the vehicle actually behaves like it was meant to fly, otherwise we would be having players figure out how to fly cars.
What do Darkel and El Burro have in common besides the icecream mission?.. The name EL...There is a cult of EL..EL is the DARK Lord of Saturn..Hence the play on words name Dark-EL..The name EL Burro is also a play on words for El burried..Like they burried The name EL, because the name Dark-El was too obvious...He gave 5 missions to represent 5 points of the pentagram..if you listen to his audio files, one of the things he mutters is something along the lines of "we do what we will" which mirrors the belief system of the Cult...GTA is obviously made by or has an illuminati Saturn cult undertone...It's literally everywhere in GTAV as they are more open about showing it these days..Saturn Cubes..Murals...UFOs..Aliens...Etc. Whether R* is part of it or just doing it to be inclusive of other criminal organisations around the globe.. regardless that's still what and who Darkel actually is... Now you know..
Rockstar Games was obsessed with cults since the very beginning, in GTA II you save the game in a fucking church and in the third district you can do missions for a Krishna gang cult, GTA VC had Pastor Richards, in San Andreas Chris Formage appeared for the first time.
I have a copy of GTA 3 on disk for the PC and when I install it and load into a game when I go to the options screen I can't see anything, does anyone know of a fix or why it does this?
Maybe Love disappearance has indirect relationship with darkel. Maybe darkel was the one who killed love but not with the help Of Claude Speed but by some other means and this happened behind the shadows while we only see the glimpse of love dissappeance. Maybe developers included that useless mission as compensation for the blind spot after the removal darkel?
From the Point of a GTA fan, you'r Videos are just freaking amazing work and stunning research. Thank You a lot for bringing these informations in a that well made Video! You're great, keep up the work!
The myths surrounding Darkel are nowhere near as disturbing as what Toni Cipriani did. He slaughtered an innocent person over nothing and disemboweled him and delivered as meat that was sold as something edible to other people at the very guy's meat shop. Moreover, he commited a truly disgusting terrorist attack by blowing up the entire district, killing all the residents and civilians who were in the area.
i think he was cut, not because his missions were screwed up, but rather, they were probably too WACKY. like, this crazy bum gives you missions like blowing up an ice cream truck to kill randoms and that's just wild man. wouldn't call that simply messed up, just... insane remember, GTA III is (in theory) a serious crime drama. and then there's just this insane hobo with a shotgun
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Vadim M since gta series didnt make yet a gta lcs vcs iv.... can you do the beta of gta iv please
Vadim M Any News About Bully 2? :/
So sad this character was cut, he is like, the creepy version of The Truth gta sa lol.
Btw he is not the only creepy guy in Liberty city there is that bodyguard of Salvatore Leone, who give you the mission where you need to kill some chainsaw psichos.
awsome video.Keep up for more video :)
Darkel was too busy teaching kids how to fight in exchange for radio parts to contact the mothership.
Rocket Rangoon Bully 😁
this is my official headcanon now
underrated comment
Bully/gta sa lol
Umm it’s from… never mind
well of course dodo wasn't meant to fly or els why would rockstar let you to fly around the city that don't have roofs
Exactly. Plus, when you get to a certain height they aren't even solid if I remember correctly.
Parts of the Love Media roof where the cutscenes took place were solid.
@@JF930H Similarly, the roof of the Portland hospital is solid.
Plus it's named after the dodo
It's not hard to code a working plane, it's hard to remake the entire map to make it suitable to fly around
Bigfoot? Ghosts? Aliens? Ratman? Nah, Darkel is the true mystery of GTA.
What about the disappearance of scooter brothers
Doug Rattman?
Mt. Chiliad
What about goatman from GTA V
what about piggsy from gta sa
If I'm not mistaken, I think you can play as Darkel by entering the pedestrian code a bunch of times. There's even a female pedestrian that doesn't appear anywhere else in the game that can be played as. Now, keep in mind, I'm going by memory here, but that Darkel model looks familiar.
That Darkel model is taken from the creepy old man model.
Rockstar Games: "Darkel was just a crazy bum and he gives you crazy missions. And we thought he couldn't fit with game dynamics"
Also Rockstar Games: *Adds Trevor as main character*
And also rockstar made cj bury someone in concrete
@@rocky-zx6kqif you listen to the in game radio, it tells that the construction worker was rescued. Still what cj did was crazy.
@@Spencer_232
Naw dude, the foreman is dead.
Also them: Lets make Manhunt
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I have a theory. Just look at the GTA 2 rampage missions, see the guy at the lower left of the screen?
I think that's Darkel. I think when Rockstar started developing GTA 3 they decided to make the rampages to be given by that same man but this time they gave him an identity: Darkel.
What do you think Vadim? I would like to hear your opinion about this.
Impossible,characters from the 2d universe cant appear in the 3d
@@anijeepa Why?
Well, Rockstar wanted Gta 3 to be in same universe as the 2D universe, hinting why theirs Zaibatsu posters in older screenshots and the graphics are like cartoony sorta like the 2D universe. So chances are they wanted more stuff from the 2D universe Like the 7 gangs from gta 2 in that interview, and the most likely wanted to gta 2 rampage guy have a identity.
@EchoStorm I doubt that their universe divergence was planned during gta 3's development.
@EchoStorm Point is they said it after the release of GTA 3, after Darkel was already removed from the game. If he was the GTA 2 guy, they wouldn't be lying since he still isn't in the 3D universe
Darkel's lines are more fascinating. He has a voice credit but no lines surfaced over the years?
Would boomshine technically be making a return? Vice City took place in the 80s while as GTA3 took place in 2001 :p
Either way - Solid video!
In this case, yes it's it doesn't make any sense, but not if we look at the release dates :P
Head Cannon: Darkel was never "real", he was a character in the game with a model and voice actor, but he's just a figment of Claude’s imagination, a manifestation of Claude’s violent nature
there is no violent nature in him (who's "claude" btw? never heard of him), he just goes with the flow all the time
and that's kinda cool nihilistic tingle in the story if you ask me
@@IntrusiveCuckholeGenerator Claude is an 1800 fishing vessel
@@IntrusiveCuckholeGenerator you didn't really provide any arguments . You just said it's bad because it's nihlsitic tingle (and it isn't nihlsitic at all. Claud isn't supposed to be a good guy).
The game is literally named after a felony
@@blackbeast9268 just play the game one more time or at least try to read my comment, I'll pray for you
@@blackbeast9268 Claude is a bad guy. But he only cares about money. He is the most evil and psychotic protagonist. He is also the coldest and doesn't care about anything unless you respect him or give him money or stay out of his way. But if you are his target, your life is doomed because he is coming with his shotgun and M16.
children: bigfoot
legends: *darkel*
So even though Darkel wasn't in the game, parts of him still linger on like the i scream you scream mission and rampages.
Seriously. We know they changed the first responders to not resemble NY after 9/11 but we’re suppose to pretend this dude still left in the game files wasn’t cut because of 9/11 lol. I don’t get it
@@GovernorRiffRaff Rockstar gave reasons why he was cut. 9/11 was not it.
Spartan Kong Country yea okay you buy the governments line on that one. Nope not me. The governments lied to me before, have you ever heard of the gulf on Tonkin incident?
I was a former Governor, a fighter, a navy seal, I was on the inside. And even they won’t let me go inside a woman’s restroom, why? What are they trying to hide? well I’m here to get to the bottom Of it.
@@GovernorRiffRaff Lol that has nothing to do with rockstar.
@@GovernorRiffRaff Dude did you escape from mental level?
When i was little i had a magazine with Darkel's Involvement in future GTA Games
''Darkel was always the player invisioned. The need to go on random rampages, a version of him is someway portraied in GTA I AND II. In GTA III , Darkel gives you missions such as ''Minimum Bureaucracy'' Darkel can be found at the trail railways and can be used as a quest giver. It involves takeing the train for the first time in GTA III and serves as an introduction, however Darkel ties a politician to the tracks and Claude is forced to watch as the train he took splashes the Politician. We all love the upcoming GTA: San Andreas and are excited to see what role he will play in side the gangster riddled world of San Andreas.''
It was a very knock off magazine that contained loads like this but for now this is all i can find by googling it. It was called ''Risky'' and it was a gaming magazine that used to leak information about upcoming games and trailers.
I don't know if I said it before, but I love this channel
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Too evil, dark and gruesome? We helped lure Marty Chonk's wife in and she got ground into dog food. You even hear when she realizes what's about to happen and yells 'Stop'. *Schlrch*
Remember what happened to Casa
Gta 2 have mission hot dog homicide.
Your over looking it, you never lured her in, she chose to.
@@malletUsergaming She was delivered thinking she was just going to spend talk with Marty, her husband. She most definitely did not 'choose' to get ground into dog food.
Love the fact that there is a channel out there that does such in-depth stuff for a game as old (and as good) as GTA 3.
The tunnel you mentioned was supposed to be or an entrance to Darkel. The missions that where deleted where most likely replaced into the rampages spread along the island. That is what i think.
exactly, that's how the rampages were born - the whole concept of rampages throughout the 3D era came solely from one cut character
I have an idea how he could have been a rampage icon. Maybe unlike the rampages we got, because he is a man he would only be in one spot at a time, find him and do the mission. The rampages were multiple over the map,although they did move location if you failed them, maybe Darkel was gonna do that too I dunno. Or there were going to be multiple Darkels standing around because that's what video games do sometimes.
I never really bought the idea that the Dodo wasn't meant to be flown. I remember when GTA3 came out and we found the Dodo, getting it flying took about two minutes of experimenting and it didn't ever seem like exploiting a bug or anything, it was clearly just made to be difficult to fly but certainly not impossible to do and the technique isn't really a bug.
From what has been said it seems to me that Darkel was probably seen as just a bit too much which is saying something in a game as controversial as GTA3.
well I think that DMA design (aka Rockstar North) was actually planning to make planes drivable in GTA 3, because like you said, the dodo has a weird contro,scheme to fly, but it can fly once you get the hang of it, but because it was their first 3D gta and they either didnt have enough time to finish the flying mechanics or had to scrap it for being too difficult to implement.
they scrapped the entire concept, but left some working code on the dodo and didn't bother to erase it and instead cut its wings and call it "deaddodo", justifying why you shouldn't be able to fly it.
They also probably scrapped the flying mechanic because of the GTA 3 map not being fully modeled for flying in the first place, if the player was able to fly then he would see a lot of unfinished areas around the top of the buildings. So yeah, TL;DR: It is possible that they were working on the concept of claude being able to fly a plane like the skimmer in Vice City, but it was cut due to either being too time consuming to implement or they couldnt get it right.
Really great compilation of all info about Darkel! Also I didn't know about the alpha 8-ball model left-overs! Looks really close to the render!
Bill FIore's lost voice lines are the real mystery and darkels missions and role in story
Thanks so much for making these videos. I'm always on the look out for old magazines and anything I can that might aid in the quest for beta knowledge. All we can hope is that someone at Rockstar realises that a lot of people care - and maybe throws us a bone someday.
¡Gracias por subtitular tus videos al español!
Pero el que lo hace soy yo :'v
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When will the gta liberty city stories beta analysis be uploaded ?
I am not interested in this game nor completed it, sadly.
Vadim M then do GTA IV pls
Not interested? Why?? To me, it was very nostalgic and interesting to see how the city and the characters changed from GTA 3 - I smiled in the 1st 10 minutes of the game when I saw my first safehouse, a building that was in ruins in GTA 3. How can this be not interesting to you as a researcher whose entire channel is dedicated to comparisons? No, I'm not asking for 3 vc LCS comparsion, I just mean even seeing the obvious differences between these two games is interesting, and imagine what you could do with your finding beta material and stuff skills.
napaceHbIK watch GTA Series hot topic, they made a video about GTA:LCS but unfortunately there weren’t many interesting beta content (well imo)
gta: lcs was a good game it was a much better refined 3, and deserves a video fam
Darkel would of been extremely interesting sucks they cut him out
They removed Darkel because there was a mission where you have to destroy school bus maybe there are kids in there who knows? And it was at the time of where 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center.
If they keep that mission then GTA 3 would be the last Rockstar Game will ever make.
@@Heat7208 you did not pay attention because when he mentions that he also said that Dan Houser denied their being a mission to blow up kids in a school bus. His character got scrapped because he did not mash well with the other characters.
@@Heat7208 Did you even watch the video lol dumbass
@@Heat7208 He was right not to
you can fly a dodo but is very hard to learn it in gta III
Noctowl IKR
whats the point?
i used dodo too to find ghost town
GrandTheftBoy ! ok
I tried...flew 8 seconds 8 inches into the air...fell.
great video man! , great video
Just new in this channel, and I played GTAIII a month ago! Thanks for the great info!
now sounds like not new...right?
If only he was brought over to GTA V. Could just imagine him being a character who would be a bum in Sandy Shores near Trevor. Could even see him being a wacko who could supply Trevor with some of his more illicit goods. Maybe Ron would voice his concerns over Trevor’s association with him, but would be told off. Maybe in terms of outfit Darkel could instead be wearing some old army fatigues and have a missing leg which would be replaced with a prosthetic. His madness could be attributed to shell shock.
I love when you do upload new informations related to the betas! :)
Amazing. You just uploaded it, i love your content!
As we all know, the majority of game mechanics in GTA 3 are introduced to the player in the mission, be that driving, buying weapons, scoped shooting with sniper rifle, rigging a car with a bomb and so on. I guess, Darkel supposed to be a character that explains Rampage mechanic to the player, so one of his missions (perhaphs a very first) was dedicated to it.
Great video. GTA 3 is my fav and a gem!
I love that GTA IV tune, but i don't remember myself hearing this tune while playing da game.
Izza cut wasted theme song in IV.
*Sweet collaboration!*
Who knows. If his missions were based around these terrorist acts, Rockstar would never admit to it as it would hurt them further.
Zeng Vuh idk. Blowing up citizens is pretty terroristy
Illinois Umm...okay??
Agreed, back then people’s attitudes are much less liberal towards video games in general than they are today.
No it’s just a game
It could of been. A bunch of things were changed in the game before it’s release because of 9/11
I Got a theory. Remember the cutscene "Love's Disappearance"? So there was a said mission of Darkel that says to fly the Dodo to his large home.
Maybe Darkel really told us players to kill him if Darkel really exists, then that is why Love disappeared.
GTA III, I feel, is the most-underrated GTA. It's a personal favorite. Interesting video.
I used to be good at flying the dodo and landed it on top of the Lovemedia building and was able to check out the Japanese garden you see in the cutscenes. Very interesting to hear you were supposed to destroy that building by crashing a dod into it...especially given the timing of the game's release.
He literally said that that was just a rumour in the video.
Woah! But if Darkel missions were deleted why El Burro's one are available to play and restarts themselves if you leave Portland?I mean, come on, Burro's missions are violent too, not like "Darkel ones" but still violent.
Darkel has to be the Coolest Looking Character in Gta 3 sad he got removed
Just uploaded, great vid man
could you please do a Manhunt series analysis?
Darkel was clearly inspired by Fight Club, since the movie came out right around that timeframe I can't tell if it was due to it or the book. Also I do believe the Love Hurts myth, Rockstar has been caught lying blatantly about cut features from their games due to controversy, plus it helps connect the dots over Donald Love's disappearance.
Yep, I been drinkin again.
lol
dude i love ur videos keep it up
The darkel ice cream bomb truck mission reminds me of a 2nd part Yakuza mission from Johnny Zoo
SWEGTA?
Sheldon will going to find Darkel and will Kick you in the Kneecaps
Maybe He Had the land mine
They turned darkel into the collectible in the cave
I thought this guy only do bully videos I'm surprised that he's talking about GTA 3
Love ur vids!
Darkel's icecream van mission probably got cut to due 9/11
nope it's actually in the game under the name i scream you scream
Rockstar: Removes an asset for looking like shit.
Modders: But what does this MEAN? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
I will never go near an ice cream truck ever again!
Great video, thanks. :)
Darkel was hiding in Switzerland.
I hate finding out this character was cut. I could relate.
Wow, thanks for the investigation. So much great content, subscribing to your channel right now.
the el burro missions were once given by darkel along other missions
Dodo wasn't meant to fly, but flying vehicle could have different name instead. And when they cut off the wings - they renamed it Dodo. And I don't believe Dan Houser's quote about these mission weren't even finished. A few months before release it's time to polish the game, fix some bugs, optimise. And not to leave a couple of missions undone.
I'm sorry but you clearly know nothing about video game development.
Rockstar (and most major companies) use a concept called 'crunch' where up until the last days or hours they're making changes.
It's incredibly naïve to assume that games are effectively complete "months" before release with just polishing and bug fixes required.
You can see some of the beta videos that were less than 2 months away from the full release with major changes having been made between that and release.
great videos, please do some like this for vice city!!
Elvis has left the building!
*WASTED*
The first time I saw Darkel was three years before GTA III. He was a talking tree in a Zelda game. What the hell happened in that time?
@@vex2x9710 This was long before then. It was childhood. Between the ages of 8 and 11 when all of this was still new.
They lost limbs when you blew the truck up
Where to find the full resolution pictures of these at 5:11?
Your outro is:Gta 4 wasted music,right?
A new video by VadimM, yeah! Thanks for always touching interesting topics from GTA3. Keep it up!
I'd love to imagine a GTA game where homeless people are just destroying the town overtime, it puts a whole new dynamic on GTA differentiating from the typical Gang/Mafia ties. Plus it could set up for some amazing missions
I always wondered what was with the tramps in the tunnel
ol uncle sweggy ovah here
Thanks for THAT info
Theory: The Bullet Proof Patriot was originally meant to be given by Darkel.
"Asks you to do weird things"
It was bad publicity, during the early 2000’s politicians kept saying video games caused violent outbursts. Especially after the events of columbine.
So basically, i assume darkel was just a beta idea for these rampage missions, later scrapped, and instead of character development its idea was used as side mission content. if thats the case, then its uh... pretty shallow of rockstar for that time.
gta 3 had peds in rampages in beta like in gta 1 and 2 not gang members
It always made sense that they cut him after 911. And they wouldn't admit that even later to not draw any heat to gta, because they already had a lot of problems with this franchise, probably everyone remembers San Andreas problems with ESRB rating after they discovered that there are unused files in a game and "terrorist like missins" would calssify also as... Adult Only. Disappearance of Donald Love in GTA 3 is somewhat weird, and unexplained, it feels like there is a hole in the plot. That's why it always made sense that the mission would be to end him. And Dodo supposedly never should fly, but somehow it does. It's not that players used bugs to make it fly, the vehicle actually behaves like it was meant to fly, otherwise we would be having players figure out how to fly cars.
Lol SWEGTA bully was observing us today
in gta liberty city stories there is a rampage mission where you kill peds with a chainsaw
Oooo my , 10 minutes about a cancelled character . Also , he would be a bum . Thats really it 😆😆
What do Darkel and El Burro have in common besides the icecream mission?.. The name EL...There is a cult of EL..EL is the DARK Lord of Saturn..Hence the play on words name Dark-EL..The name EL Burro is also a play on words for El burried..Like they burried The name EL, because the name Dark-El was too obvious...He gave 5 missions to represent 5 points of the pentagram..if you listen to his audio files, one of the things he mutters is something along the lines of "we do what we will" which mirrors the belief system of the Cult...GTA is obviously made by or has an illuminati Saturn cult undertone...It's literally everywhere in GTAV as they are more open about showing it these days..Saturn Cubes..Murals...UFOs..Aliens...Etc.
Whether R* is part of it or just doing it to be inclusive of other criminal organisations around the globe.. regardless that's still what and who Darkel actually is... Now you know..
"We do what we will" sounds like Crowley's teachings "Do Thou Shalt Walt"
Do Thou Wilt
Rockstar Games was obsessed with cults since the very beginning, in GTA II you save the game in a fucking church and in the third district you can do missions for a Krishna gang cult, GTA VC had Pastor Richards, in San Andreas Chris Formage appeared for the first time.
+Psychol not to mention the various cults/religions in gta 5 (most of which you can interact with)
So, "El Burro" (The Donkey in spanish) has nothing to be with being the leader of a latin gang, i guess?
Actually, the thing with crashing a dodo is that there were no parachutes in Gta 3 so Claude would have died in the crash
I'm going to link this to MrBossFTW and Datsaintsfan, hopefully more people take notice of this
D'jango Markov dont u dare give info to these clickbaiting shitstains
Stop
the hobos were Darkels gang
Sweden+ gta=swegta
I have a copy of GTA 3 on disk for the PC and when I install it and load into a game when I go to the options screen I can't see anything, does anyone know of a fix or why it does this?
Try running it on compatibility mode.
rampages were also given by Darkel
curtis mclaren is also a myth (Curtlys voice from gta 3 another cut carachter)
Darkel also replaced the hidden packages
Maybe Love disappearance has indirect relationship with darkel. Maybe darkel was the one who killed love but not with the help Of Claude Speed but by some other means and this happened behind the shadows while we only see the glimpse of love dissappeance. Maybe developers included that useless mission as compensation for the blind spot after the removal darkel?
-I look like a stalker translating all your videos to Spanish, but hey xD-
Thanks for translating these videos!
-Hello-
Do a video about English
Beta vs 1.0
From the Point of a GTA fan, you'r Videos are just freaking amazing work and stunning research. Thank You a lot for bringing these informations in a that well made Video!
You're great, keep up the work!
Were voice lines found?
The myths surrounding Darkel are nowhere near as disturbing as what Toni Cipriani did. He slaughtered an innocent person over nothing and disemboweled him and delivered as meat that was sold as something edible to other people at the very guy's meat shop. Moreover, he commited a truly disgusting terrorist attack by blowing up the entire district, killing all the residents and civilians who were in the area.
If wish darkel was not removed
i think he was cut, not because his missions were screwed up, but rather, they were probably too WACKY. like, this crazy bum gives you missions like blowing up an ice cream truck to kill randoms and that's just wild man. wouldn't call that simply messed up, just... insane
remember, GTA III is (in theory) a serious crime drama.
and then there's just this insane hobo with a shotgun
Darkle is Darko from GTA IV
I think darkels removal was related to the removal of children as I believe children would get killed at the ice cream truck
What's the source for the video at 8:40, because I swear I've seen it before.
idk bro, its familiar to me too