was at the range and a friend had Recoil shafts. I am a 5 hc and never really thought about graphite. I tried his irons with 60g Recoil graphite shafts and was amazed, especially 3,4,5 iron range. I could get the 4 about 225, a good 10 yard farther than my steels shafts (similar taylormade heads). Ball just seemed to rocket off the strike. I am 55, fairly strong and fit, but could really see the lighter weight being easier on my hands and body.
Been playing graphite in my irons for 4 years. I have very high swing speed (127 mph) with driver. I like lighter weight shafts and graphite is the best option to go light and XX stiff. My handicap is +4. I absolutely love them and will never go back to steel. Plenty of feedback on mis hits but no pain when ya catch a 4 iron thin when it’s really cold outside. Performance is as good or better than any steel I’ve used.
Which shaft do you use? I swing around 112 driver 88mph 7 iron. Elbow pain I hit the ball low for the most part. I have LOVED light weight shafts 85 gram in irons has felt nice. But looking for the perfect shaft I'm a 4 handicap that used to be a +3 but kids and elbow pain have changed things I catch the ball thin because I'm afraid of the pain digging in brings with steel shafts. Just curious what your playing and thoughts.
@@MrMblaze8597 it's a shaft from a company called Wishon golf. S2S black is the model. I tip them 1". Only issue is they are .370 tip size so they dont fit in most OEM irons because they use .355 hosel size
Today (June 6, 2021) Callaway was at my club and I tested the Mavrik 7-iron with the (new for 2021) UST Recoil Dart 65 gram graphite shaft, and I like this better than the shaft I use now (NS Pro 950GH, stiff). I had more club head speed (3 mph), more ball speed and higher flight (33 yards). I felt like I was getting more "pop" from the shaft with less effort too, and it was just easier to swing, and close the club face at impact. All wins, so I am going to buy this.
I went from steel to graphite due to the fact that with graphite, you can feel the weight in the club head more. It gave me more control aiming my shots….
Yeah, I dont think it matters too much as long as you like it, I use graphite as its all I had. Found some nice Cleveland CG4's with graphite shafts at a recycling center for $10 and they're great haha.
Personally, I think there's one word that captures why you don't see more golfers using graphite shafted irons and that word is "ego"! I'm 57 years old and still in good physical shape and routinely shoot in the mid-80's. I play a lot with retired guys in their 60's and 70's who scoff at my graphite shafted irons and state that they could never use graphite because of their "high swing speeds". They insist on playing stiff, steel shafts even though their swing speeds are actually much lower than mine and I routinely hit all my clubs well past theirs. Think people need a reality check when it comes to their abilities (these same guys are always telling me about the 300 yard drives they hit and yet when I play with them they're lucky to hit it 230 on a good day).
I play Aerotech Steelfiber i110s. Had some elbow issues and these are awesome, Balance was a bit different from my KBS so I had to add some lead tape to my irons but I can’t see myself going back to steel.
I am also a 5-6 handicap and use graphite shafts. Had to switch because of my joints and it took me some time to find a graphite shaft that was just as stable (or felt just a stable) as steel but now never want to go back to steel.
Hey Raymond...just wondering,,,,,,,,,,,,, did you have similar results as the video??? higher ball flight??? how heavy did you go?? just wondering thanks,
les moore Hi Les, for me it was especially difficult to find a head and shaft that matched because a lot of graphite shafts (from a brand fitting cart) felt “whippy” and dispersion wasn’t great. Beside that the graphite options are very limited. Even at brands like Mizuno that promotes custom fitting. Ended up with Mizuno MP18 blades with project X LZ tour graphite shafts 6.0 90 gram. And have recoil 95 F4 shaft in my MP20 HMB 2 iron. Flight isn’t (noticabely) higher than when I played with steel. And no/less pain in the joints of my hand/wrist😁
@@Raymond-sj7cn thanks so much for the info... and sharing your experience... it really makes a lot of sense to consider graphite shafts just from a longevity standpoint.... thanks again...
Got fitted for graphite shafts and really liked them, changed back to steel shafts but I am going back to graphite . I recently looked at the Yonex irons which look really good unfortunately not any reviews about them.
I found a deal for graphite iron shafts on Amazon along with thicker grips and I'm putting them on my old R7 iron heads 4-SW for about $18/club. I'm making the plunge after realizing the 1 graphite iron shaft that I have makes me real comfortable. That lonely graphite shaft gives me the sense of freedom. That's as close as I can describe it. However I could find more disastrous results after I've made the change so stand by.
PS a suggestion for a follow-up vid, visit a fitting studio (such as Golf Principles in Basingstoke) and get fitted into the correct graphite Iron shaft for you.
I got elbow issues so I'm thinking about graphite for my iron shafts. My main concern is the overall weight. I am a player that struggles with tempo at times and heavier overall weight and a heavier swing weight helps me the most. I use a shaft between 120 - 130 grams, currently. It seems that most graphite options are geared towards a lighter option.
Love graphite irons. Predominately played them since I gamed Wilson Fat shafts many years ago. Now play Mitsubishi Chemical OT Tour 120x. Awesome shafts.
They can come in the same weight as steel now and have the ability of bigger ranges of flex and torque than steel. It come down to how it’s compared. Of course it will go longer, faster if it’s lighter. Same torque and weight to steel would be a good test. The big thing is vibration reduction. I can practice much longer with graphite. Another is lighter weight options for slower swing speeds and longer clubs.
Since I tried a F4 Recoil shaft in a Ping Crossover my eyes have opened. I could just use my regular swinger swing and still got excellent launch and distance. Really struggled with 3-2 irons before I tried the graphite option and had to really try to hit the ball hard to get a good launch number.
Give it 5 years, you will see more Graphite than Steel in all Clubs. Then as soon as that happens you will have a Company change the name to Carbon and charge 5x as much!! I have used Graphite for 2 years and I am not going back to Steel. Swing speed is around 95
This is always such a weird question to me, plenty of touring pros use graphite shafts, Bryson DeChambeau and Ricky Fowler use them, you aren’t nearly as good as them and don’t swing the club as fast so I’m really not sure why this is even a question. Everyone can use graphite shafts, even the hardest swinging and most skilled golfers on planet Earth.
Most fittings are steel selection is not in tune with whats avaliable in graphite you can get weight match with Aerotech steel fibre , Mizuno dont up charge for graphite in irons
I have been using graphite shafts in my Irons for several years and this year got fitted into the KBS Tour graphite shafts and they are Brilliant! Most if not all golfers would benefit from changing to graphite shafts in their Irons and it is only a mixture of male ego and stupidity that prevents more male golfers from making the switch. Modern graphite shafts are so stable they give far better performance, feel and they are so smooth, there are none of the unwanted vibrations that you get from mishits with Iron shafts.
I switched from graphite to steel recently and it significantly improved my iron game. I am much more accurate and can hit farther now. Sure a miss hit might sting a touch, but overall I have had much more success with steel shafts. To each their own.
It’s not only ego that keeps people from playing them. A lot of times it’s price. Upgrading to graphite shafts in every club is way more expensive than steel.
Go and hit the following two clubs against each other off a Mizuno fitting rack: 1) Mizuno MB-20 Blade with a 130 gram KBS Tour 130 gram X shaft 2) Mizuno MB-20 HMB with a 110 gram SteelFiber X shaft Most humans will prefer option #2 I personally prefer the 130 gram KBS steel shaft option given the proper time to warm up for optimal swing speed - but for every other human on the planet, option #2 is far superior - nevermind that 70, 80 & 90 gram shafts are also available and are obviously far more appropriate for all youth, women, senior, and all slower swinging golfers. I have a slightly faster swing speed than on this video and I'm also a 5 handicap. I have a Mizuno HMB #5 iron in my bag with a Graphite (Steelfiber 110 gram shaft) that matches my 120 gram S300 Dynamic Gold shafts in my PW-6 Mizuno Hot Metal Pro irons because it optimizes my longest iron's launch conditions for better peak height & spin. If money isn't an issue, graphite is a far better material and will slowly but surely replace steel iron shafts.
Paul O'Neil I’ve played graphite in my irons/wedges for 4 years. I play off a +5 and have a high swing speed (127 mph driver) main reason is I prefer light weight shafts (90 grams in my irons) which is rare for someone with my speed but there isn’t a steel shaft stiff enough at that low weight. I’ve played project x 7.0 and X7s for a long time but I always hated the extra weight. Experimented with an x stiff graphite at 90 grams and tipped, instantly fell in love. Switched all my clubs the next day and will never go back to steel. Performance is as good or better than steel and I love the feel.
Of course you can mate , you probably want to stay within 20-25 grams of weight between your current irons to graphite shaft, a lot of guys on tour and most lpga are using them, I have px 6 and kbs tour , my ss is 90 with 7 iron , 114 with driver, I use steelfibre I 95 stiff in Miura blades and they are amazing tighter dispersion . I would never go back to steel .
LouKayne Bryson de chambeau , boo weekly , Brandt snedeker , Matt kuchar , , all play graphite shafts in their irons are you calling them 60 year old ladies ?
There are a lot of myths about graphite shafts. Lower handicappers tend to think they will flex too much for their swing speeds, but frankly they overestimate their ability. All handicap golfers will hit graphite further because they are easier to swing faster.
I wish someone would test Project X LZ graphite and recoil shafts against steel they are closer in weight to steel. Not all graphite shafts are super light weight it gives the wrong impression that if you want graphite you must give up playing a shaft that is closer to the weight of steel. I would expect a little better out of Golf Monthly. Sorry thumb down for me.
Tom Duckworth totally agree that Project X LZ tour graphite and the Recoil 95 are closer to steel and that’s why I -after testing - ended up with the Project X LZ tour 90 gram in my MP18 MB irons. Have the recoil 95 in my MP20 HMB 2 iron.
Learn to like what works best. I've used graphite for over 20 years and never had a moment of regret.
was at the range and a friend had Recoil shafts. I am a 5 hc and never really thought about graphite. I tried his irons with 60g Recoil graphite shafts and was amazed, especially 3,4,5 iron range. I could get the 4 about 225, a good 10 yard farther than my steels shafts (similar taylormade heads). Ball just seemed to rocket off the strike. I am 55, fairly strong and fit, but could really see the lighter weight being easier on my hands and body.
Been playing graphite in my irons for 4 years. I have very high swing speed (127 mph) with driver. I like lighter weight shafts and graphite is the best option to go light and XX stiff. My handicap is +4. I absolutely love them and will never go back to steel. Plenty of feedback on mis hits but no pain when ya catch a 4 iron thin when it’s really cold outside. Performance is as good or better than any steel I’ve used.
Which shaft do you use? I swing around 112 driver 88mph 7 iron. Elbow pain I hit the ball low for the most part. I have LOVED light weight shafts 85 gram in irons has felt nice. But looking for the perfect shaft I'm a 4 handicap that used to be a +3 but kids and elbow pain have changed things I catch the ball thin because I'm afraid of the pain digging in brings with steel shafts. Just curious what your playing and thoughts.
@@MrMblaze8597 it's a shaft from a company called Wishon golf. S2S black is the model. I tip them 1". Only issue is they are .370 tip size so they dont fit in most OEM irons because they use .355 hosel size
Today (June 6, 2021) Callaway was at my club and I tested the Mavrik 7-iron with the (new for 2021) UST Recoil Dart 65 gram graphite shaft, and I like this better than the shaft I use now (NS Pro 950GH, stiff). I had more club head speed (3 mph), more ball speed and higher flight (33 yards). I felt like I was getting more "pop" from the shaft with less effort too, and it was just easier to swing, and close the club face at impact. All wins, so I am going to buy this.
I went from steel to graphite due to the fact that with graphite, you can feel the weight in the club head more. It gave me more control aiming my shots….
Yeah, I dont think it matters too much as long as you like it, I use graphite as its all I had. Found some nice Cleveland CG4's with graphite shafts at a recycling center for $10 and they're great haha.
I have played graphite for 15+ years due to joint pain. The quality of shafts now are better than ever.
Very true - quality of graphite shafts has improved, especially those aimed at faster swingers
Personally, I think there's one word that captures why you don't see more golfers using graphite shafted irons and that word is "ego"! I'm 57 years old and still in good physical shape and routinely shoot in the mid-80's. I play a lot with retired guys in their 60's and 70's who scoff at my graphite shafted irons and state that they could never use graphite because of their "high swing speeds". They insist on playing stiff, steel shafts even though their swing speeds are actually much lower than mine and I routinely hit all my clubs well past theirs. Think people need a reality check when it comes to their abilities (these same guys are always telling me about the 300 yard drives they hit and yet when I play with them they're lucky to hit it 230 on a good day).
The don't bend the same. It matters when you hit the turf.
Totally agree about the ego thing. Most guys don't hit the ball anywhere near what they say they do 😅😅
I play Aerotech Steelfiber i110s. Had some elbow issues and these are awesome, Balance was a bit different from my KBS so I had to add some lead tape to my irons but I can’t see myself going back to steel.
I Play $-Taper 120 stiff and my local club maker recommended Aerotech i95 stiff to me. So thinking to switch.
@@SvingitGolf can I ask if you made the switch? I’m really considering in doing the same
Im off 7 and nearly 50 year old and gone to mmt 75 stiff shafts in graphite and love em 😊
I am also a 5-6 handicap and use graphite shafts. Had to switch because of my joints and it took me some time to find a graphite shaft that was just as stable (or felt just a stable) as steel but now never want to go back to steel.
Hey Raymond...just wondering,,,,,,,,,,,,, did you have similar results as the video??? higher ball flight??? how heavy did you go?? just wondering thanks,
les moore Hi Les, for me it was especially difficult to find a head and shaft that matched because a lot of graphite shafts (from a brand fitting cart) felt “whippy” and dispersion wasn’t great. Beside that the graphite options are very limited. Even at brands like Mizuno that promotes custom fitting. Ended up with Mizuno MP18 blades with project X LZ tour graphite shafts 6.0 90 gram. And have recoil 95 F4 shaft in my MP20 HMB 2 iron. Flight isn’t (noticabely) higher than when I played with steel. And no/less pain in the joints of my hand/wrist😁
@@Raymond-sj7cn thanks so much for the info... and sharing your experience... it really makes a lot of sense to consider graphite shafts just from a longevity standpoint.... thanks again...
Got fitted for graphite shafts and really liked them, changed back to steel shafts but I am going back to graphite . I recently looked at the Yonex irons which look really good unfortunately not any reviews about them.
I found a deal for graphite iron shafts on Amazon along with thicker grips and I'm putting them on my old R7 iron heads 4-SW for about $18/club. I'm making the plunge after realizing the 1 graphite iron shaft that I have makes me real comfortable. That lonely graphite shaft gives me the sense of freedom. That's as close as I can describe it. However I could find more disastrous results after I've made the change so stand by.
I know it’s 2 years after, but I just switched to steelfiber shafts and love them so far
PS a suggestion for a follow-up vid, visit a fitting studio (such as Golf Principles in Basingstoke) and get fitted into the correct graphite Iron shaft for you.
I got elbow issues so I'm thinking about graphite for my iron shafts. My main concern is the overall weight. I am a player that struggles with tempo at times and heavier overall weight and a heavier swing weight helps me the most. I use a shaft between 120 - 130 grams, currently. It seems that most graphite options are geared towards a lighter option.
Love graphite irons. Predominately played them since I gamed Wilson Fat shafts many years ago. Now play Mitsubishi Chemical OT Tour 120x. Awesome shafts.
Switched to Recoil 95 F3 in the 919HM’s this year and love them…Mizuno has no up charge on the graphite shafts which is a big plus.
I can't wait to see your review of the new Cleveland HB Turbo driver.🐈
Thanks for the great review
They can come in the same weight as steel now and have the ability of bigger ranges of flex and torque than steel. It come down to how it’s compared. Of course it will go longer, faster if it’s lighter. Same torque and weight to steel would be a good test. The big thing is vibration reduction. I can practice much longer with graphite. Another is lighter weight options for slower swing speeds and longer clubs.
Since I tried a F4 Recoil shaft in a Ping Crossover my eyes have opened. I could just use my regular swinger swing and still got excellent launch and distance. Really struggled with 3-2 irons before I tried the graphite option and had to really try to hit the ball hard to get a good launch number.
Thank you. This is one of the questions I had for a long time.
Think titleist are the first big manufacturer to encourage use of graphite shafts with the U500 series standard shaft option being dynamic gold
defintely can, and more probably should. But I have not taken to the feel of graphite shafts for pitching so my A S and LW have steel.
Interesting point
Give it 5 years, you will see more Graphite than Steel in all Clubs. Then as soon as that happens you will have a Company change the name to Carbon and charge 5x as much!! I have used Graphite for 2 years and I am not going back to Steel. Swing speed is around 95
Good iron~Thank u for good information
This is always such a weird question to me, plenty of touring pros use graphite shafts, Bryson DeChambeau and Ricky Fowler use them, you aren’t nearly as good as them and don’t swing the club as fast so I’m really not sure why this is even a question. Everyone can use graphite shafts, even the hardest swinging and most skilled golfers on planet Earth.
Most fittings are steel selection is not in tune with whats avaliable in graphite you can get weight match with Aerotech steel fibre , Mizuno dont up charge for graphite in irons
I have been using graphite shafts in my Irons for several years and this year got fitted into the KBS Tour graphite shafts and they are Brilliant!
Most if not all golfers would benefit from changing to graphite shafts in their Irons and it is only a mixture of male ego and stupidity that prevents more male golfers from making the switch. Modern graphite shafts are so stable they give far better performance, feel and they are so smooth, there are none of the unwanted vibrations that you get from mishits with Iron shafts.
I switched from graphite to steel recently and it significantly improved my iron game. I am much more accurate and can hit farther now. Sure a miss hit might sting a touch, but overall I have had much more success with steel shafts. To each their own.
@@tyrantrex734 I think that the key is not so much that it's steel or graphite, it's rather that we get fitted into the correct steel or graphite.
It’s not only ego that keeps people from playing them. A lot of times it’s price. Upgrading to graphite shafts in every club is way more expensive than steel.
Go and hit the following two clubs against each other off a Mizuno fitting rack:
1) Mizuno MB-20 Blade with a 130 gram KBS Tour 130 gram X shaft
2) Mizuno MB-20 HMB with a 110 gram SteelFiber X shaft
Most humans will prefer option #2
I personally prefer the 130 gram KBS steel shaft option given the proper time to warm up for optimal swing speed - but for every other human on the planet, option #2 is far superior - nevermind that 70, 80 & 90 gram shafts are also available and are obviously far more appropriate for all youth, women, senior, and all slower swinging golfers.
I have a slightly faster swing speed than on this video and I'm also a 5 handicap. I have a Mizuno HMB #5 iron in my bag with a Graphite (Steelfiber 110 gram shaft) that matches my 120 gram S300 Dynamic Gold shafts in my PW-6 Mizuno Hot Metal Pro irons because it optimizes my longest iron's launch conditions for better peak height & spin. If money isn't an issue, graphite is a far better material and will slowly but surely replace steel iron shafts.
Paul O'Neil I’ve played graphite in my irons/wedges for 4 years. I play off a +5 and have a high swing speed (127 mph driver) main reason is I prefer light weight shafts (90 grams in my irons) which is rare for someone with my speed but there isn’t a steel shaft stiff enough at that low weight. I’ve played project x 7.0 and X7s for a long time but I always hated the extra weight. Experimented with an x stiff graphite at 90 grams and tipped, instantly fell in love. Switched all my clubs the next day and will never go back to steel. Performance is as good or better than steel and I love the feel.
@@kourt2469 completely agree - nevermind the vibration reduction that will save your elbows and wrists if you do a lot of range work
Of course you can mate , you probably want to stay within 20-25 grams of weight between your current irons to graphite shaft, a lot of guys on tour and most lpga are using them, I have px 6 and kbs tour , my ss is 90 with 7 iron , 114 with driver, I use steelfibre I 95 stiff in Miura blades and they are amazing tighter dispersion . I would never go back to steel .
woa steelfiber with miura blades, what an awesome set that is !.
He doesn't swing like a girl and he's not 60 years old.
LouKayne Bryson de chambeau , boo weekly , Brandt snedeker , Matt kuchar , , all play graphite shafts in their irons are you calling them 60 year old ladies ?
@@Jjwalways70 yes
LouKayne yeah righto and you play off scratch and your average drive is 350
Honesty if I got fitted and graphite was the better option I’d go for it
Matt Kucher uses them doesn't he?
There are a lot of myths about graphite shafts. Lower handicappers tend to think they will flex too much for their swing speeds, but frankly they overestimate their ability. All handicap golfers will hit graphite further because they are easier to swing faster.
Colin Montgomery use grafite shaft 😉
Ever heard of COLIN MONTGOMERIE
I wish someone would test Project X LZ graphite and recoil shafts against steel they are closer in weight to steel. Not all graphite shafts are super light weight it gives the wrong impression that if you want graphite you must give up playing a shaft that is closer to the weight of steel.
I would expect a little better out of Golf Monthly. Sorry thumb down for me.
Tom Duckworth totally agree that Project X LZ tour graphite and the Recoil 95 are closer to steel and that’s why I -after testing - ended up with the Project X LZ tour 90 gram in my MP18 MB irons. Have the recoil 95 in my MP20 HMB 2 iron.
Why do Brits treat a company as if it's plural? "Yonex say".
Preconceptions? Thought they'd feel whippy.
How is "Yonex say" plural? Enlighten us all.
lol gary woodland plays graphite shafts.... so obviously they can regardless of what this guy says
5 handicap are pretty much all the UA-cam golf professionals, but they prefer to be considered scratch golfers. Scratch golfers make money on tours.
Scratch golfers on tour go hungry and are looking for sponsor exemptions. Tour players are +4 at least, some as high as +7.
why most of the golf videos have English accent and keeps mombling and never get to the point?
Kevin Zhao they have that accent because they ARE English just like your accent is from your home country