love to see the world we lost back then, people were more outgoing friendlier ,would get a good morning ,now 2024 people are more disconnected physically ,morally and a host of other things we lost through AI TEC and progress ? yeah we can speak to the ends of the earth but at what cost to the planet animals humans etc does anyone else agree ? or is it just my age talking x Thanks so much for putting these gold dramas on ,their history now x
Play For Today. As a youngster in my early teens in the early 70's onwards, I use to watch this every Thursday evening (If I remember rightly) 9.25pm after the BBC1 news. There were some real gems in this drama series.
My mum recently called me on my birthday. She's about to turn 87, herself. I reminded her that all of her 6 children are classified as "senior citizens" now and we both laughed like hell! I cannot imagine the world without her. Cheers.
Thanks for sharing post. Excellent play, inhabited by self-centered folks with not a lot of compassion for others. Willie copped the bird but couldn't stand perhaps because of the guilt of cheating, perhaps not. He did some genuine compassion for his friend who is scratching by. Intelligent play which has a lot of feeling and pain you may feel while watching it.
The memory is extraordinary. I am in my mid 50s now and watched this when I was around 14. Its just so strange how particular things can stick in your mind. Maybe it was because I was in my early teens and perhaps had a notion of 'naughtiness' in watching an adult themed play
Good actor Roger, a Cockney by birth but got the accent right. He was in Eastenders a bit back, and a few series of Begerac back in hte late 1980s/early 1990s, as Jim's boss, Inspector Deffand
Yes they were tough times, poor times, a bit of hindsight would have been nice back then to realise that they weren't that tough or poor, I would go back in a flash,!
These 'PLAY FOR TODAY dramas are helping me pass the time in a way I enjoy; I've always loved dramas and you're saving these from total oblivion in a BBC archive somewhere. And they're historical documents of what life in England used to be like before the publicly funded BBC went PC. It's now hated by the majority of UK citizens today with its outrageous 'licence fee' Where does all that money go that they rob off the British public, a lot of whom cannot arrord to pat it.
I can't take credit for saving anything from oblivion! Someone else saved these old shows, and put them on DVD in some cases. Other people taped them off-air from the BBC on VHS tapes. I'm just sharing a limiting number of these episodes. There are many more I don't have access to. But I'm glad you enjoyed them. 🙂
@@executivedecision6141 I detest the BBC with a keen sense of loathing; it's now a millstone round poor people's necks. It makes itself out to be indispensible but it's a rickety old dinosaur that the UK government won't have put down out of a misplaced sense of national cohesion.. But it's not them who has to find the annual £159 to pay these robbers. I wonder what storylines could be gleaned for PLAY FOR TODAY in the 21st century? I'm living outside the UK now, I'm 75 so I wouldn't be required to pay for one if I was still stuck there. But the whole concept of this ruthless corporation that rakes in billions of pounds every year really grinds my gears.
@@philfletcher3434 Well, a lot of these feel like plays, being shot on videotape. I prefer the more polished episodes that were filmed and on 35 mm instead of 16mm, which was the standard back then. If so many of these episodes weren't feature-length, they would have better production values.. I think that's the reason why Play for Today isn't that well-known outside of Britain today. Even the original Twilight Zone only did a mere 6 episodes on videotape in the middle of Season 2 in 1960, and that was so Rod Serling and Buck Houghton could get the series back under budget to satisfy CBS executives.
An unfortunate typo: 'pay' the dirty stinking totally illegal bbc that gets it's ill gotten gains by stealing it off the British public? You must be in a minority of 1 if you think this bunch of thieves is still valid? Have you got a standing order to pay your annual £159 TV Tax?
Yep, sadly not in Blake's Seven for very long. He also played a police constable in the film "10 Rillington Place", when he was but a fresh-faced young swain.
Real people , real lives rather than boring empty programs like love island ( which iv never watched . Play 4 today was so popular because it reflected real issues , poverty, housing . In the 70’s as a kid I didn’t care what I wore I loved to play with friends , then the 80’s came & my neighbour was bullied about her house . Yet this one a bit sexist for me
I only got 15 minutes in. Couldn’t stand the misogyny tbh. It wasn’t “ the good old days “ if you were female. I was born in 1966 ,so remember it from a child’s view.
Carolyn Pickles, of Sister Boniface fame at the beginning, nice to see a dark blue Mk 3 XL Cortina, also Austin/Morris 1100/1300 and Roger Sloman, of Bergerac fame. Jim Allen was a great screenwriter, Play for Today a great series, the sort of one off, one part drama they very rarely make nowadays. Not a pint of girly lager in evidence at the pub, either. Accents are more Yorkshire than Lancashire, but hard to tell. Most blokes then didn't know the meaning of the word misogyny, let alone how to spell it...
Jim Allen,great working class Mancunian writer,remember seeing him visit his parents who lived on the next row to me when I was growing up in the 60s/70s!!🙂
@@jayaybe1 To be exact,1960s/70s-Brantwood Terrace,Moston,Manchester,UK. Just 2 minutes round the corner from at the time Manchester United and England football player Brian Kidd ! 10 minutes down the Road to Harpurhey where Anthony Burgess,author of 'A Clockwork Orange' spent his younger days!!🤔🙂👍
One of the classic PFT that I’ve looked for now and again starred Queenie Watts and also had Robbie Coltrane, think it was called Waterloo Sunset like the Kinks song. Not sure if anyone has come across it or has a link. Thanks.
“ prove yourself ? You’ve got three kids haven’t yer ? “ my old dad Dennis played piano in pubs & clubs up until the early 90s & he was in his mid 70s although as time went on he’d have to play on those hideous sounding electronic organs . ☹️
What was probably hideous was a pianist playing an organ. No disrespect to your dad but, too many people who "played" the piano thought that they could also play an organ. What resulted was a bloody awful noise. No fault of the organ, unless is was a cheap, tacky brand, but the fault of who was playing it. The piano and organ share nothing in common other than both have notes arranged conventionally on a keyboard.
"Blue rinse set" plus "Hammond organ" were part of a long ago beloved friend's witty repertoire. All in our early 20's. He was a big fan of a then young Barry Humphries. He was the witty & amusing one in my group of friends in the early 80's. He was a miser but we always chipped in for him because we adored having his handsome & charming company. I like the fact that I now have a Hammond St address.
@@BillyJango tou are clearly a guy with an appreciative musical ear. Yes, the Vox Continental had a raw sound, not as refined as a Hammond, even with overdrive. It had a sound of it's own. Piano, ok but in my opinion, very few pianists who could make it sound good. Too many vampers and three chord onlys producing little more than a cacophony.
@@beaufighter245 You know a lot more about instruments than I do but I just love the sound of a good organ. Harry J Allstars - Liquidator is my favourite tune ever. Instrumental and simple but sounds so good.
Lord Vestey, I remember that weirdo sneaking round Liverpool Alexander Dock wearing a disguise making sure Blue Star shore gang were working. He never knew everyone knew who he was.
Sort of feel sorry for younger people watching this, as they are not going to enjoy it for what it is. But just pick faults in it.@@executivedecision6141
I grew up with these 'gritty , kitchen sink dramas' like Play For Today . Acting was first rate , but the story lines and dialogue was too often , grim and depressing . No wonder as a young boy/man , I felt deflated and cynical after watching such programmes. Art imitationing life . Maybe 🤔 After a while though , life starts immitating art , cos there seems little else to guage one's sense of purpose , afterv the TV has done It's job ..... 'programming' the viewer❗ 😳
I can’t believe no one is mentioning anything about the DV the bloke in the pub is threatening to give his wife. Even in 1982, when this was released, society looked down on it. Some people here seem to be more tunnel eyed on the lack of cars rather than the implicit violence in marriage.
That's nothing new. What makes you think it was a phenomenon then? Or that it's not an accepted norm in other cultures imported into the West? Furthermore that women aren't violent too?
Couldn't watch beyond a couple of minutes because of the irritating brass band music. why anything set in the north has got to have brass band music is beyond me, it sucks.
Equally annoying is the solitary trumpet note in every US war flick, a cliché done to death, exhumed and done to death all over again (though I didn't notice brass bands in this)
More deliberately overblown depictions fooling generations that weren't there that this was reflective of the times, TV's done a real job on us through the decades, the more I look back the clearer the agenda
Sorry, but your talking bollox on this particular one. This is very reflective of the times then. If you weren’t around to experience it then you wouldn’t know.
Some dramas are infinitely depressing, but this one made me think of cutting my throat! Was the misogyny really that bad? I almost prefer the current WOKE garbage...
@@rosemaryallen2128 Up until a couple of years ago the term "woke" in that context didn't even exist. In many cases it is better than facism. How is it worse ? Calling a trans person "they" instead of "he" or "she" ? I think that's silly but I can respect which pronoun they want, if I'm talking to that person face to face.
@@executivedecision6141 Being polite enough to call a person by their chosen pronoun is fine. Bringing in laws to govern speech, or sacking people who disagree with the WOKE agenda, is fascism, and is a dangerous undermining of civil liberties.
@@rosemaryallen2128 There is no "WOKE" agenda. There is right and wrong, and if you're referring to Twitter, before Elon Musk came on board they were enforcing their right as a private ( non-governmental ) platform to oust people who were promoting hate speech, calling COVID vaccines dangerous, and inciting violence among MAGA-freaks ( such as the U.S. Capitol attack on January 6, 2021 ). When Musk bought Twitter, he let the troublemakers back on so the "inmates" took over the asylum. Glad I rarely use Twitter anyway, and not to debate, discuss, or argue politics ... just to get download links to a satellite radio show.
Excellent. what the Brits are known for. top notch cast
love to see the world we lost back then, people were more outgoing friendlier ,would get a good morning ,now 2024 people are more disconnected physically ,morally and a host of other things we lost through AI TEC and progress ? yeah we can speak to the ends of the earth but at what cost to the planet animals humans etc does anyone else agree ? or is it just my age talking x Thanks so much for putting these gold dramas on ,their history now x
As young as I was, I loved Play for Today. Quality TV back then.
Play For Today. As a youngster in my early teens in the early 70's onwards, I use to watch this every Thursday evening (If I remember rightly) 9.25pm after the BBC1 news. There were some real gems in this drama series.
TOTPs & Tomorrow's world on the same night. After play for today the BBC would also air 'The Horse of the Year show'. A nice trip down memory lane.
@@mooseing22 And nation wide
I used to come round your house to watch with you, remember?
yes@@mooseing22
@@hudson7354 Huh, I remember you, I was there too!
Sitting in the pub smoking and drinking.....those were the days
Come to Turkey 👍
Notice the lack of cars. Peace and quiet marvellous. 🇬🇧 👍
yeah the world has far too many cars nowadays - and loads of people resisting the plans to reduce them!
I remember in the late 70s kids would play chicken laying in the road but the lack of cars made it boring lol@@RadicalRoots23
The best Play for today l see was Nuts in May that had Roger Sloman in also.
Pure class
My parents are both in their 80s. They have looked after me and my 4 other siblings for nearly 65 years. I can’t imagine life without either of them.
I know you’ll make the most of them. When lose them you you’ll never be really happy again sorry to be so morbid I’m just warning you. 🤝
My mum recently called me on my birthday. She's about to turn 87, herself. I reminded her that all of her 6 children are classified as "senior citizens" now and we both laughed like hell! I cannot imagine the world without her. Cheers.
Very true.
You're lucky! Both my parents parents have passed away so they haven't got any of them
Glad i was young and lived then . The real world
Just better television
Can't beat the good old days.
Thanks for sharing post. Excellent play, inhabited by self-centered folks with not a lot of compassion for others. Willie copped the bird but couldn't stand perhaps because of the guilt of cheating, perhaps not. He did some genuine compassion for his friend who is scratching by. Intelligent play which has a lot of feeling and pain you may feel while watching it.
my god, so true, so realistic.......great writing
The memory is extraordinary. I am in my mid 50s now and watched this when I was around 14. Its just so strange how particular things can stick in your mind. Maybe it was because I was in my early teens and perhaps had a notion of 'naughtiness' in watching an adult themed play
He left his ladders on the roof 😂
I thought that lol
The ladder was up there all the time on purpose.
Sorry 1981 still wish i could go back.....rodger sloman...brilliant
I don't they were tough times
Good actor Roger, a Cockney by birth but got the accent right. He was in Eastenders a bit back, and a few series of Begerac back in hte late 1980s/early 1990s, as Jim's boss, Inspector Deffand
Yes they were tough times, poor times, a bit of hindsight would have been nice back then to realise that they weren't that tough or poor, I would go back in a flash,!
These 'PLAY FOR TODAY dramas are helping me pass the time in a way I enjoy; I've always loved dramas and you're saving these from total oblivion in a BBC archive somewhere. And they're historical documents of what life in England used to be like before the publicly funded BBC went PC. It's now hated by the majority of UK citizens today with its outrageous 'licence fee' Where does all that money go that they rob off the British public, a lot of whom cannot arrord to pat it.
I can't take credit for saving anything from oblivion! Someone else saved these old shows, and put them on DVD in some cases. Other people taped them off-air from the BBC on VHS tapes. I'm just sharing a limiting number of these episodes. There are many more I don't have access to. But I'm glad you enjoyed them. 🙂
@@executivedecision6141 I detest the BBC with a keen sense of loathing; it's now a millstone round poor people's necks. It makes itself out to be indispensible but it's a rickety old dinosaur that the UK government won't have put down out of a misplaced sense of national cohesion.. But it's not them who has to find the annual £159 to pay these robbers. I wonder what storylines could be gleaned for PLAY FOR TODAY in the 21st century? I'm living outside the UK now, I'm 75 so I wouldn't be required to pay for one if I was still stuck there. But the whole concept of this ruthless corporation that rakes in billions of pounds every year really grinds my gears.
@@philfletcher3434 Well, a lot of these feel like plays, being shot on videotape. I prefer the more polished episodes that were filmed and on 35 mm instead of 16mm, which was the standard back then. If so many of these episodes weren't feature-length, they would have better production values.. I think that's the reason why Play for Today isn't that well-known outside of Britain today.
Even the original Twilight Zone only did a mere 6 episodes on videotape in the middle of Season 2 in 1960, and that was so Rod Serling and Buck Houghton could get the series back under budget to satisfy CBS executives.
The BBC is NOT hated by the majority of uk citizens. Maybe you should also learn how to spell correctly-
An unfortunate typo: 'pay' the dirty stinking totally illegal bbc that gets it's ill gotten gains by stealing it off the British public? You must be in a minority of 1 if you think this bunch of thieves is still valid? Have you got a standing order to pay your annual £159 TV Tax?
His cat ladders are still there on that roof today!
A temptation resisted is a true measure of character! Lol! Many thanks for the upload of this brilliant play. Best wishes Villiago
I did think that but at the end he got it up
Nice to see the late Colette O'Neil as Lil, the landlady....very versatile actress, perhaps best known for Hannah in Radio 4s McLevy series.
I enjoyed it . A real kitchen sink drama , if ever there was . The characters were spot on .
First class
The Good old days.
David Jackson, played the Irish painter/decorator in only fools and horses episode Who's a pretty boy, and also in Blakes 7.
Yep, sadly not in Blake's Seven for very long. He also played a police constable in the film "10 Rillington Place", when he was but a fresh-faced young swain.
Also in a couple of Minder episodes
@@douglasfreeman3229 Gan
@@stevenwilson1816 I think that he might have been in 3 even.
He played a mate to Scotch Harry in one Minder episode
Thank you so very much for your uploads❤
Paul Freeman had the uncanny ability to look old when young and look young when old.
He's only 38 here! He appeared in 3 Plays For Today in 1980 - 2
Brilliant! Enjoyed that so much. I plan to explore your channel for more treasure:) Thanks
Thanks, this was a wee gem. Great acting.
Real lives, real people as played by the players, enjoyed this episode very much.
Very well done! Thank you!
Great script
Thanks for sharing
All smoke and no roast the end that is, lol good acting
That lout in the pub was like my ex.drank all the time and spend all the money boozing. Long divorced.the drink killed him at 53
Denise,, same as my bestmates father,, he died around 55, going back nearly 20 years now,,, great man in the pub, but a right bas d at home.
Good show and good actors --
I'd look round the door of pubs like that, and go straight out again. Now, most pubs are either restaurants, houses or demolished.
I remember a very young Kenneth Brannah on pft in the early 80s as a Belfast youth during the troubles
Anything Paul Freeman's in is good.
"once again, Dr Jones, there is nothing you can possess that i can not take away."
Real people , real lives rather than boring empty programs like love island ( which iv never watched . Play 4 today was so popular because it reflected real issues , poverty, housing . In the 70’s as a kid I didn’t care what I wore I loved to play with friends , then the 80’s came & my neighbour was bullied about her house . Yet this one a bit sexist for me
I only got 15 minutes in. Couldn’t stand the misogyny tbh. It wasn’t “ the good old days “ if you were female. I was born in 1966 ,so remember it from a child’s view.
Some good acting here they went on to a family at war,emmerdale and some mike leigh films
this was alright I guess , watchable without setting the world alight ! thanks again for the upload
Carolyn Pickles, of Sister Boniface fame at the beginning, nice to see a dark blue Mk 3 XL Cortina, also Austin/Morris 1100/1300 and Roger Sloman, of Bergerac fame. Jim Allen was a great screenwriter, Play for Today a great series, the sort of one off, one part drama they very rarely make nowadays. Not a pint of girly lager in evidence at the pub, either. Accents are more Yorkshire than Lancashire, but hard to tell. Most blokes then didn't know the meaning of the word misogyny, let alone how to spell it...
Roger Sloman= Nuts in may.
With the piano and waiter service this is so redolent of the time in pubs in the mid to late 1960s ..... I know .....my mam and dad told me !
yeah, including the male hegemony
Jim Allen,great working class Mancunian writer,remember seeing him visit his parents who lived on the next row to me when I was growing up in the 60s/70s!!🙂
Where was that Christopher?
@@jayaybe1 To be exact,1960s/70s-Brantwood Terrace,Moston,Manchester,UK. Just 2 minutes round the corner from at the time Manchester United and England football player Brian Kidd ! 10 minutes down the Road to Harpurhey where Anthony Burgess,author of 'A Clockwork Orange' spent his younger days!!🤔🙂👍
@@christopherdaly9384 Huh, I knew Kidd was from round there but didn't know about Anthony Burgess 🙂.
@@jayaybe1 Yeah,Carissbrook St Harpurhey. There's a post on You Tube from a number of years ago with a guy--- 'In Search of Anthony Burgess' !!🙂👍
Pity its not still on telly. Really good drama.
When Actors could actually act
One of the classic PFT that I’ve looked for now and again starred Queenie Watts and also had Robbie Coltrane, think it was called Waterloo Sunset like the Kinks song. Not sure if anyone has come across it or has a link. Thanks.
Play for Today - Waterloo Sunset (1979), starring Queenie Watts.....
Available on YT Channel.....Play For Forever 😢
Working class people played by middle class actors,..
Very good😂😅😊
Arrrr the 70s when cars had leaking roofs and no heaters lol
"Cop for a bird" = Grab a granny night
Where was this filmed - near Oldham?
“ prove yourself ? You’ve got three kids haven’t yer ? “ my old dad Dennis played piano in pubs & clubs up until the early 90s & he was in his mid 70s although as time went on he’d have to play on those hideous sounding electronic organs . ☹️
What was probably hideous was a pianist playing an organ. No disrespect to your dad but, too many people who "played" the piano thought that they could also play an organ. What resulted was a bloody awful noise. No fault of the organ, unless is was a cheap, tacky brand, but the fault of who was playing it. The piano and organ share nothing in common other than both have notes arranged conventionally on a keyboard.
"Blue rinse set" plus "Hammond organ" were part of a long ago beloved friend's witty repertoire. All in our early 20's. He was a big fan of a then young Barry Humphries. He was the witty & amusing one in my group of friends in the early 80's. He was a miser but we always chipped in for him because we adored having his handsome & charming company. I like the fact that I now have a Hammond St address.
I love the sound of the organ, especially the Vox what The Doors and The Animals and a lot of ska bands use. A lot better than piano.
@@BillyJango tou are clearly a guy with an appreciative musical ear. Yes, the Vox Continental had a raw sound, not as refined as a Hammond, even with overdrive. It had a sound of it's own.
Piano, ok but in my opinion, very few pianists who could make it sound good. Too many vampers and three chord onlys producing little more than a cacophony.
@@beaufighter245 You know a lot more about instruments than I do but I just love the sound of a good organ. Harry J Allstars - Liquidator is my favourite tune ever. Instrumental and simple but sounds so good.
The background music sounds like something from a spaghetti western.
Lord Vestey, I remember that weirdo sneaking round Liverpool Alexander Dock wearing a disguise making sure Blue Star shore gang were working. He never knew everyone knew who he was.
Yeh and as ex merchant navy we all know how much those blue star twats were company men,you needed to be a grass to get on a bluesy
trouble at mill mr arkwright?
Them pubs would usually do after time drinking people never left so easily
Why do so many of these productions feature a character called Billy or Willy. That's depressing enough in itself quite honestly.
Those men in the pub were a disgrace.
😂🤣
Your wife says jump and you say how high..?
@@Roscoe.P.Coldchain no, some men respect their wives. Not about "jumping" it's about respect.
I agree.
I am so embarrassed
I thought this was an adult movie 😮
😅😂
70s wish i could go back....is that beloc ? Is he still digging in the wrong place indy?....
Goodness me.
I feel so embarrassed.
I thought Willies Last Stand was an adult movie.
Oooops 🤭
Not bad for 42??
Keith Pratt from nuts in May
What do you sing, Madrigals?
@@MrNewtonian candice Marie you’re standing on sedimentary limestone I CANT HEAR YOU KEITH
@@beavisbonce Cigarette smoke makes me choke, litter makes me shiver.
@@vivienneandersson6019 do you like this stone I’m thinking of setting it on a wring
10:02 It's a good job he doesn't drink stella
In them days, Stella was a tart's drink, not for Real Men...
😢 I still dunno , Y they called it the Wife Beater ! I drank it all the time 😇 . Cud do wid a pint now 🍻
In England we call it the 12th series. Calling it season is american. Do you want to be american? Are you ashamed of being British?
I'm an American, dude..... 😎
@@executivedecision6141hahana
Always in the north, always bleak and always a flipping brass band playing! 😬
Or a cello 😢
'appen.
It's grim up north
No pigeons though!
😂😂😂
anyway why do pubs have car parks
Candice Marie lol
Keith
REFRESHINGLY UNWOKE!!!
Better to be "WOKE" , which means WIDE AWAKE. 😎
@@executivedecision6141 WIDE AWAKE DELUDED SNOWFLAKE NONSENSE!!!
Sort of feel sorry for younger people watching this, as they are not going to enjoy it for what it is. But just pick faults in it.@@executivedecision6141
WHEN THERE WERE PUBS MEN WENT TO IE 50 YRS AGO
I grew up with these 'gritty , kitchen sink dramas' like Play For Today .
Acting was first rate , but the story lines and dialogue was too often , grim and depressing .
No wonder as a young boy/man , I felt deflated and cynical after watching such programmes.
Art imitationing life . Maybe 🤔
After a while though , life starts immitating art , cos there seems little else to guage one's sense of purpose , afterv the TV has done It's job ..... 'programming' the viewer❗ 😳
Wiily was in the long good friday got killed at bath s trying it on with pierce brosnan
Yorkshire nah, Lancashire maybe
Those accents are trying to be Yorkshire regardless of where it's meant to be set.
@muk8804 get a life.
Funny ' All the men have no gray hair in them days 🤣 .
And no fatties ! What the hell do people eat now compared to that time.
I am 49 and I haven't got one grey hair yet. I am not bragging, I would love some grey hair. It looks stupid being all brown at my age.
@Stanly Stud I wouldn't dare.
@@BillyJango I hated going grey.
When it all went everybody says how good it looks 😂
FFS I was dreading it happening
@@hudson7354 I would love some grey hair. My face is too wrinkley for brown hair. It would look better grey. I am dreading going bald though.
I can’t believe no one is mentioning anything about the DV the bloke in the pub is threatening to give his wife. Even in 1982, when this was released, society looked down on it. Some people here seem to be more tunnel eyed on the lack of cars rather than the implicit violence in marriage.
Life is life some women left then went back to the beating.
That's nothing new. What makes you think it was a phenomenon then? Or that it's not an accepted norm in other cultures imported into the West? Furthermore that women aren't violent too?
I don't know if this is misogyny or misandry.
It was not real
This was made the same year that Paul Freeman played the villain Dr. Belloq in Raiders of the Lost Arc.
Thank you for pointing that out.😙
I knew I recognized his face although I couldn't say from where so it would have bugged me all night.
Thank you
Couldn't watch beyond a couple of minutes because of the irritating brass band music. why anything set in the north has got to have brass band music is beyond me, it sucks.
Is that all it took for you stop watching?
@@douglasfreeman3229 Yep ! Cliche alert !
Equally annoying is the solitary trumpet note in every US war flick, a cliché done to death, exhumed and done to death all over again (though I didn't notice brass bands in this)
More deliberately overblown depictions fooling generations that weren't there that this was reflective of the times, TV's done a real job on us through the decades, the more I look back the clearer the agenda
Pretty much how things were, depending on where you were. Just because it wasn't your experience doesn't mean it isn't realistic.
What are you talking about ? Play for today reflected reality for loads of people
Er what .?
Stop talking shit!!!
Sorry, but your talking bollox on this particular one. This is very reflective of the times then. If you weren’t around to experience it then you wouldn’t know.
Some dramas are infinitely depressing, but this one made me think of cutting my throat! Was the misogyny really that bad? I almost prefer the current WOKE garbage...
"Woke" is a modern way of saying. "Wide Awake". 😎
@@executivedecision6141 WOKE as the dictatorship of fake compassion it has become, is no better than a progress to fascism.
@@rosemaryallen2128 Up until a couple of years ago the term "woke" in that context didn't even exist. In many cases it is better than facism. How is it worse ? Calling a trans person "they" instead of "he" or "she" ? I think that's silly but I can respect which pronoun they want, if I'm talking to that person face to face.
@@executivedecision6141 Being polite enough to call a person by their chosen pronoun is fine. Bringing in laws to govern speech, or sacking people who disagree with the WOKE agenda, is fascism, and is a dangerous undermining of civil liberties.
@@rosemaryallen2128 There is no "WOKE" agenda. There is right and wrong, and if you're referring to Twitter, before Elon Musk came on board they were enforcing their right as a private ( non-governmental ) platform to oust people who were promoting hate speech, calling COVID vaccines dangerous, and inciting violence among MAGA-freaks ( such as the U.S. Capitol attack on January 6, 2021 ).
When Musk bought Twitter, he let the troublemakers back on so the "inmates" took over the asylum. Glad I rarely use Twitter anyway, and not to debate, discuss, or argue politics ... just to get download links to a satellite radio show.
Willie ends up gettin stabbed in the swimming baths ,taken away in an ice cream van.Lotta dignity in tha,goin out like a raspberry ripple.
'pay'