Horror/comedies. The juxtaposition of something super scary with the brief release from comedy. Movies like Happy Death Day or Ready or Not use comedy to relieve tension before the horror elements build it back up again
100% psychological horror/romcom, because its RAW, in games/shows like last of us part 2 [ik it is only in game rn but my point stands] evolving from part 1 where the villain is the cordyceps to the real evil being no something or somone but instead the drive of pure unfiltered human beliefs. Some would say its humans but id have to disagree. As, its such a watered down analogy of whats really going on. In the game you see all sides no one thinks they are wrong they are simply doing what they BELIVE in and it makes u question can a person be bad for having the drive to fight for what THEY think is right whether its right or not ultimately is not important, what makes somone bad, doing nothing while what you believe is important be torn to shreds or somone who does something and stands up when they see something wrong. which is such a message atleast thats the message I got. Which absolutly shattered the way I saw people's actions which is what a good piece of media does [atleast to me] and i dont see how a purely comedy or romcom or horror media could portray such a message that is just so potent.
I can’t see how the choice was to compare Titanic to this movie. I did enjoy the movie, but I do understand your point about how the break up was not on screen, but it was his absence that caused them to break up. They didn’t have a big fight. He just wasn’t there, so it would be interesting to hear how they could have dramatized that. I think the real catch of the movie was the betrayal by people in the business. That’s what kept me watching.
The main point is that Titanic is a 4 quadrant movie meaning it has broad appeal. Fall Guy is also trying to be a 4 quadrant movie by having a mystery, romance, action, and drama, but where 1 succeeded the other failed.
The Fall Guy’s biggest problem is that it’s a tourism advertisement for Australia. Australia gives a lot of tax breaks to film there, but the caveat is that the movies have to make Sydney look as shiny and clean as possible. Even though they film in real locations, they are scrubbed and cleaned before filming to make every scene look like a commercial. Every accident looks intentional. All mise en scene is destroyed because nothing looks natural in the scene. It’s a problem with every movie made in Australia under this tourism tax break scene. It’s the same reason Baz Luhrmann’s Australia, Gatsby, Moulin Rouge, and more recently movies like Aquaman, they all have this same clean tourism style problem. The reason movies like The Matrix work so well is because the fake clean look of this Australian filming style helps sell the idea of a fake world created by machines.
😂😂😂😂 it was actually a good movie me and my wife enjoyed. The biggest problem was marketing and most people hate movies playing of In the movie India 😅😂
It's a really interesting analysis, but I feel that saying Fall Guy wasn't successful because the story could be told better is a little bit naive. A lot of really well-written movies flop, and some poorly-written ones become hits.
It is the same with youtube. People would love well made videos, but the most sensational ones always rise to the top. Overall people want to be entertained by some dumb fun they can not get in real life.
That's fair. I didn't get into this but I think a big part was that because this movie didn't know what it wanted to didn't didn't sell itself well. Like the trailers all left me going, "but what is this movie actually about???" And so I feel like a lot of people went "I can't tell if this movie is for me or not?"
@@TheWritersBlockOfficial That's definitely true. I remember when it came out, and I decided not to watch it in the cinema because I dismissed it as a generic action movie. But actually, after watching your video, I found out some interesting stuff about it, enough to encourage me to check for myself whether it works or not. The marketing of the film didn't get me there at all. And I'm not an average moviegoer; I look at what movies come out every week and choose one or two to try. So they lost quite a significant part of the audience because they didn't know how to present the movie.
@KatyaOrlova-jp1gy same thing happened to the new animated transformers movie. It was advertised as very childish but the target audience is much more like nostalgiac fans. So the word of mouth was great but so many people didn't go see it. Especially cause the marketing made it compete with movies like wild robot which is a much better pick for bringing kids to
I went to see Fall Guy purely because it was from the same creator of Bullet Train, which I had seen in theaters and loved, and while I have seen Fall Guy a few times, I think you’re right that Bullet Train is the superior movie. It was much easier to follow, the twists were fun and felt earned, and the fights/stunts made sense. Also I really appreciated how you compared Titanic to Fall Guy, because while I wouldn’t have made those connections, I really enjoyed how you put them together.
A) I think Bullet Trains lack of self referential aspects really made it have more of its own identity. Even if it's heavily borrowing from a lot of other movies/directors, moments like the Channing Tatum Cameo or Brad Pitt's overall performance make it iconic in its own right. B)I'm glad you like the comparison! I tend to take the whole premise of "apples to oranges" as a personal challenge.
This might sound weird, but I think Emily Blunts parasocial relationship with fans works against her. A lot of couples who are famous for being a couple and actively make it a part of their brand, Emily/John, Ryan/Blake, Will/Jada, make it hard to suspend disbelief in romantic films. They also make it harder to sell a film. For example, another Krasinski project came out, The Quiet Place prequel, and everyone was all over Lupita and Joseph making flirty edits of the two, despite them both being in a relationship with other people. Hell Sydney and Glenn's social media and interviews SOLD Anyone But You to make it one of the biggest films of the year despite them both being engaged to other people at the time. The only edit i saw about this film was about how Emily and Ryan had "Sibling Energy." It is easier to project on Ryan because we don't know very much about him r his relationship, but its harder for me to invest in a movie couple if they are 1/2 of a power couple.
I felt this disconect too. I watched it with my family and we all had mixed reaction. My dad loved it (but the stunts and the humor were right up his alley so I can see what got him hooked), my mom just went "meh" and I actively disliked it, but I couldn't put my finger on why. I liked the actors, I liked the shots, it was pretty decently produced... and even if it checked all of those boxes... I didn't like it, specially the relationship stuff! And your vid just helped me realize why!
I'm so glad this video could do that! I've realized that what I really want to do with this channel is to help explain why people might be feeling the way they feel about media, and to know that that is working at least for some is really encouraging. Thanks for taking the time to comment!
Ok so I watch almost all your videos but don't comment usually not after seeing the selection here I must! I think the comparison of the two films is perfectly apt and a good way to communicate where Fall Guy failed. I agree that the romance wasn't fully formed and not engaging. Thanks I love your videos
Hey thank you for taking the time to leave a positive comment. I know there are tons of channels I enjoy but don't end up commenting on cause I think it doesn't matter or won't be seen. But it's really very encouraging to have some engage with the content and reach out!
Even without the strike we are in a real corporate era of Hollywood. Good art gets made in spite of the system not because of it. But I firmly believe that the pendulum will swing back in the other direction. Don't know when, but a creative Renaissance is on the horizon
The movie was sort of a mess. I watched this on a date once it was streaming. I didn't feel the chemistry was good. Bland, no heat. the action pieces were fine but they were pointless and seemed like after thoughts to the plot. It's like they bought the rights to the fall guy show and just winged it on set. the film makers thought they were smarter than they were. My partner hated it more than me. This was a poorly constructed movie to showcase Ryan Gosling that failed. I agree Titanic had all the same elements but that elevated everyone involved and hit the marks. Nice work on the video
I think a lot of movies (and books too) struggle with the "will they won't they" dynamic. You have to be a really talented writer to make the tension believable while also making us believe that they SHOULD be together. Otherwise it feels like "OBVIOUSLY you should be together so stop wasting our time" or "Actually you SHOULDN"T be together, so stop wasting our time."
I personally feel like if a comparison is obvious, it's also uninteresting. Finding connections between seemingly unlike things is a great way to get a new perspective.
The trailers were not appealing to me whatsoever. It looks like a big old mess and even though I’m a movie buff I couldn’t help but think who would genuinely care about this?
The trailers like the movie didn't commit to a genre and had messy structure. So In trying to have something for everybody, it failed to establish its own identity that could be marketed well
plenty of other films recently have been able to get a big audience in the theater. nothing about this movie was remotely good or interesting enough to garner a large audience.
I think the modest success of Twisters is a great example of this. It really knew exactly what audience it was targeting and delivered for them. Whereas The Fall Guy's version of "something for everyone" really just meant their was no focused identity for the film
I liked the movie, but I can understand why it didn't connect for audiences, for me I think the movie had a lot of potential, I just think it fell flat by the twist and the ending which I do like how it pays homage to the original, but it wasn't a great ending. I also saw a comment where someone said the movie doesn't have big stakes, and I agree, I think if the movie had a different story with stakes, who knows the movie would have been a little better. I really wanted this movie to be amazing especially since it's the same director who did Bullet Train, which is an ultimate favorite of mine, but I think Bullet Train succeeded where Fall Guy failed is because it just had a better story, higher stakes, and just great funny characters (not to say that Fall Guy characters were bad, but some were not great)
These days hollywood does not know how to make a good movie. All it knows how to do is make pop culture references that will be forgotten in 5 years. And worship hollywood for the sake of it.
PEOPLE in Hollywood absolutely know how to make a good film, but the system makes it difficult for those films to get made. Hollywood wants to make "safe bets" but also those bets cost so much money that they can never be considered truly safe. Even "sure things" like The MCU and sequels to billion dollar movies are flopping now. No one is OWED an audience or people's money, and word-of-mouth is more important than ever.
You can hardly compare a dramatic love story with a historic background to an action comedy. But ok, I will give your video a shot. P.S. I always found Titanic hugely overrated. P.P.S. My impression is that both movies take themselves far too seriously. But in an actual drama, you can do that. In what is basically a comedy, you can't.
@@Pomoscorzook that’s fair. But I disagree that action comedies shouldn’t take themselves seriously. Bc that’s one of the places where comedy can come from. People taking themselves too seriously in unserious circumstances can be funny. Like the Ryan Gosling Terrazano skit from SNL
@TheWritersBlockOfficial Well everyone I know who saw it was grown, but I guess you're right. But your comparison is still pretty random. At least chose something with action in it. Like Boss Baby.
What movies blend genres the best???
Horror/comedies. The juxtaposition of something super scary with the brief release from comedy. Movies like Happy Death Day or Ready or Not use comedy to relieve tension before the horror elements build it back up again
100% psychological horror/romcom, because its RAW, in games/shows like last of us part 2 [ik it is only in game rn but my point stands] evolving from part 1 where the villain is the cordyceps to the real evil being no something or somone but instead the drive of pure unfiltered human beliefs. Some would say its humans but id have to disagree. As, its such a watered down analogy of whats really going on. In the game you see all sides no one thinks they are wrong they are simply doing what they BELIVE in and it makes u question can a person be bad for having the drive to fight for what THEY think is right whether its right or not ultimately is not important, what makes somone bad, doing nothing while what you believe is important be torn to shreds or somone who does something and stands up when they see something wrong. which is such a message atleast thats the message I got. Which absolutly shattered the way I saw people's actions which is what a good piece of media does [atleast to me] and i dont see how a purely comedy or romcom or horror media could portray such a message that is just so potent.
I can’t see how the choice was to compare Titanic to this movie. I did enjoy the movie, but I do understand your point about how the break up was not on screen, but it was his absence that caused them to break up. They didn’t have a big fight. He just wasn’t there, so it would be interesting to hear how they could have dramatized that. I think the real catch of the movie was the betrayal by people in the business. That’s what kept me watching.
The main point is that Titanic is a 4 quadrant movie meaning it has broad appeal. Fall Guy is also trying to be a 4 quadrant movie by having a mystery, romance, action, and drama, but where 1 succeeded the other failed.
The Fall Guy’s biggest problem is that it’s a tourism advertisement for Australia. Australia gives a lot of tax breaks to film there, but the caveat is that the movies have to make Sydney look as shiny and clean as possible. Even though they film in real locations, they are scrubbed and cleaned before filming to make every scene look like a commercial. Every accident looks intentional. All mise en scene is destroyed because nothing looks natural in the scene. It’s a problem with every movie made in Australia under this tourism tax break scene. It’s the same reason Baz Luhrmann’s Australia, Gatsby, Moulin Rouge, and more recently movies like Aquaman, they all have this same clean tourism style problem. The reason movies like The Matrix work so well is because the fake clean look of this Australian filming style helps sell the idea of a fake world created by machines.
😂😂😂😂 it was actually a good movie me and my wife enjoyed. The biggest problem was marketing and most people hate movies playing of In the movie India 😅😂
The biggest problem was the predictable plot and stilted, trite comedy 😬
It's a really interesting analysis, but I feel that saying Fall Guy wasn't successful because the story could be told better is a little bit naive. A lot of really well-written movies flop, and some poorly-written ones become hits.
It is the same with youtube. People would love well made videos, but the most sensational ones always rise to the top. Overall people want to be entertained by some dumb fun they can not get in real life.
That's fair. I didn't get into this but I think a big part was that because this movie didn't know what it wanted to didn't didn't sell itself well. Like the trailers all left me going, "but what is this movie actually about???" And so I feel like a lot of people went "I can't tell if this movie is for me or not?"
@@TheWritersBlockOfficial That's definitely true. I remember when it came out, and I decided not to watch it in the cinema because I dismissed it as a generic action movie. But actually, after watching your video, I found out some interesting stuff about it, enough to encourage me to check for myself whether it works or not. The marketing of the film didn't get me there at all. And I'm not an average moviegoer; I look at what movies come out every week and choose one or two to try. So they lost quite a significant part of the audience because they didn't know how to present the movie.
@KatyaOrlova-jp1gy same thing happened to the new animated transformers movie. It was advertised as very childish but the target audience is much more like nostalgiac fans. So the word of mouth was great but so many people didn't go see it. Especially cause the marketing made it compete with movies like wild robot which is a much better pick for bringing kids to
Haven’t watched the video yet but my first instinct seeing the thumbnail was why compare these completely different movies 😂
Same
I went to see Fall Guy purely because it was from the same creator of Bullet Train, which I had seen in theaters and loved, and while I have seen Fall Guy a few times, I think you’re right that Bullet Train is the superior movie. It was much easier to follow, the twists were fun and felt earned, and the fights/stunts made sense.
Also I really appreciated how you compared Titanic to Fall Guy, because while I wouldn’t have made those connections, I really enjoyed how you put them together.
A) I think Bullet Trains lack of self referential aspects really made it have more of its own identity. Even if it's heavily borrowing from a lot of other movies/directors, moments like the Channing Tatum Cameo or Brad Pitt's overall performance make it iconic in its own right.
B)I'm glad you like the comparison! I tend to take the whole premise of "apples to oranges" as a personal challenge.
This might sound weird, but I think Emily Blunts parasocial relationship with fans works against her. A lot of couples who are famous for being a couple and actively make it a part of their brand, Emily/John, Ryan/Blake, Will/Jada, make it hard to suspend disbelief in romantic films. They also make it harder to sell a film. For example, another Krasinski project came out, The Quiet Place prequel, and everyone was all over Lupita and Joseph making flirty edits of the two, despite them both being in a relationship with other people. Hell Sydney and Glenn's social media and interviews SOLD Anyone But You to make it one of the biggest films of the year despite them both being engaged to other people at the time. The only edit i saw about this film was about how Emily and Ryan had "Sibling Energy." It is easier to project on Ryan because we don't know very much about him r his relationship, but its harder for me to invest in a movie couple if they are 1/2 of a power couple.
It just feels like the movie was Hollywood’s revenge for the strike, along with the constant stream of bad movies.
I felt this disconect too. I watched it with my family and we all had mixed reaction. My dad loved it (but the stunts and the humor were right up his alley so I can see what got him hooked), my mom just went "meh" and I actively disliked it, but I couldn't put my finger on why. I liked the actors, I liked the shots, it was pretty decently produced... and even if it checked all of those boxes... I didn't like it, specially the relationship stuff! And your vid just helped me realize why!
I'm so glad this video could do that! I've realized that what I really want to do with this channel is to help explain why people might be feeling the way they feel about media, and to know that that is working at least for some is really encouraging. Thanks for taking the time to comment!
Ok so I watch almost all your videos but don't comment usually not after seeing the selection here I must! I think the comparison of the two films is perfectly apt and a good way to communicate where Fall Guy failed. I agree that the romance wasn't fully formed and not engaging. Thanks I love your videos
Hey thank you for taking the time to leave a positive comment. I know there are tons of channels I enjoy but don't end up commenting on cause I think it doesn't matter or won't be seen. But it's really very encouraging to have some engage with the content and reach out!
Wow, that writers strike kicked their ass, huh?
Like a straight year of shit movies written by corporate..
Even without the strike we are in a real corporate era of Hollywood. Good art gets made in spite of the system not because of it. But I firmly believe that the pendulum will swing back in the other direction. Don't know when, but a creative Renaissance is on the horizon
No literally 😅
Enjoyed the video, thanks. I feel like modern hollywood got used to a very lazy writing and ask you to watch movies with low expectations
The movie was sort of a mess. I watched this on a date once it was streaming. I didn't feel the chemistry was good. Bland, no heat. the action pieces were fine but they were pointless and seemed like after thoughts to the plot. It's like they bought the rights to the fall guy show and just winged it on set. the film makers thought they were smarter than they were. My partner hated it more than me. This was a poorly constructed movie to showcase Ryan Gosling that failed. I agree Titanic had all the same elements but that elevated everyone involved and hit the marks. Nice work on the video
The relationship subplot was sooo annoying
I think a lot of movies (and books too) struggle with the "will they won't they" dynamic. You have to be a really talented writer to make the tension believable while also making us believe that they SHOULD be together. Otherwise it feels like "OBVIOUSLY you should be together so stop wasting our time" or "Actually you SHOULDN"T be together, so stop wasting our time."
What are you talking about?? PEople LOVED the movie❤🎉
They should in fact reboot the Titanic as a franchise.
The Marine Disaster Cinematic Universe lets go
Have you seen the 3rd act of avatar 2?
Titanic 2: Ghost Ship
You've probably not seen Titanic Rising
How the hell did you manage to connect The Fall Guy and Titanic? They’re completely different films.
Comparing The Fall Guy to Titanic is certainly A CHOICE
I personally feel like if a comparison is obvious, it's also uninteresting. Finding connections between seemingly unlike things is a great way to get a new perspective.
@@TheWritersBlockOfficialGreat, next time compare Avatar and Gunda
Fall Guy made me reflect that maybe Bullet Train wasn’t actually as good as I thought it was…
Did anybody think bullet train was good?
@@akshayde I did, and it was a better film than this one
I guess it’s just me, buy Fall Guy just didn’t look interesting
The trailers were not appealing to me whatsoever. It looks like a big old mess and even though I’m a movie buff I couldn’t help but think who would genuinely care about this?
The trailers like the movie didn't commit to a genre and had messy structure. So In trying to have something for everybody, it failed to establish its own identity that could be marketed well
@@TheWritersBlockOfficial Also the movie trailer revealed a lot, which most trailers do, nowadays
The movie wasn't bad, theater attendance is.
plenty of other films recently have been able to get a big audience in the theater. nothing about this movie was remotely good or interesting enough to garner a large audience.
I think the modest success of Twisters is a great example of this. It really knew exactly what audience it was targeting and delivered for them. Whereas The Fall Guy's version of "something for everyone" really just meant their was no focused identity for the film
I sat in a empty IMAX theater(1.90) for free after The Amazing Spider-Man’s re release
Screw this video! I Fucking LOVE The Fall Guy!
Same lol
I liked the movie, but I can understand why it didn't connect for audiences, for me I think the movie had a lot of potential, I just think it fell flat by the twist and the ending which I do like how it pays homage to the original, but it wasn't a great ending. I also saw a comment where someone said the movie doesn't have big stakes, and I agree, I think if the movie had a different story with stakes, who knows the movie would have been a little better. I really wanted this movie to be amazing especially since it's the same director who did Bullet Train, which is an ultimate favorite of mine, but I think Bullet Train succeeded where Fall Guy failed is because it just had a better story, higher stakes, and just great funny characters (not to say that Fall Guy characters were bad, but some were not great)
Good take falll guy tropical thunder did better
Man topical thunder is a great comparison and youre absolutely right that it did it better
Would Tropic thunder be the best film in a film ?
Quite possibly. Singing in the rain is also up there
@@TheWritersBlockOfficial I have to check that out.
These days hollywood does not know how to make a good movie. All it knows how to do is make pop culture references that will be forgotten in 5 years. And worship hollywood for the sake of it.
PEOPLE in Hollywood absolutely know how to make a good film, but the system makes it difficult for those films to get made. Hollywood wants to make "safe bets" but also those bets cost so much money that they can never be considered truly safe. Even "sure things" like The MCU and sequels to billion dollar movies are flopping now.
No one is OWED an audience or people's money, and word-of-mouth is more important than ever.
You can hardly compare a dramatic love story with a historic background to an action comedy.
But ok, I will give your video a shot.
P.S. I always found Titanic hugely overrated.
P.P.S. My impression is that both movies take themselves far too seriously. But in an actual drama, you can do that. In what is basically a comedy, you can't.
You can very easily compare anything. It's just a matter of perspective and framing.
Fall Guy is a comedy tho?
@@Asteroids50 An action movie with comedy elements.
@@Pomoscorzook that’s fair. But I disagree that action comedies shouldn’t take themselves seriously. Bc that’s one of the places where comedy can come from. People taking themselves too seriously in unserious circumstances can be funny. Like the Ryan Gosling Terrazano skit from SNL
You might as well compare it to Boss Baby too
Boss baby isn't attempting to be a four quadrant blockbuster. I take it you didn't watch the video?
@TheWritersBlockOfficial
Well everyone I know who saw it was grown, but I guess you're right. But your comparison is still pretty random. At least chose something with action in it. Like Boss Baby.
Fall Guy was so boring
Need video editor?
Its completely different movies dude
Yeah…that’s the point of comparing two things to talk about their similarities and differences….?
Did you watch the video? Or did you make assumptions based on the title?
Fall guy is way better then titanic