Big 12 wil not get the brands your talk about. Clemson fsu north Carolina and miami are going some where else. Noter dame is a problem. I dnt want all of the rest of acc. No California teams. I would rather have wsu and osu then bc or wake.
"I would rather have wsu and osu then bc or wake." Understandable. So why can't BIG12 fans see from a similar perspective from the ACC's point of view? For instance, NCSTATE would rather play WAKE and DUKE than BAYLOR and TCU.
@tarheel7406 first off we would hav to ask our overlords how many we can have. So if they say 4 then ncsu can stay in the power conference or not. How many of the acc teams do you think will go to big10 and sec. Big 10 my not move unless nd does finally
Great discussion, utah is in big trouble for basketball… I’ve loved watching the football program develop under Coach Kyle, I have sky high expectations for this year. Can’t wait!!
The BIG12 has already fallen apart. Much better chance at FSU (~50%). Outside of FSU, if ACC schools are moving to the BIG12, the B12 would then be Tier 1 irrelevant.
@@robertpearce4316 Why would the ACC not be a conference? It would have to heavily deplete out to the SEC/B1G and then dissolve, which would make the then BIG12 irrelevant. That's the B12's catch-22.
@tarheel7406 acc has no value with out Clemson and fsu. Miami and North Carolina pretend to play football. The others are a joke. There will be a few left to rot. Acc will not be a conference
@@robertpearce4316 The BIG12 has ALREADY lost its top 6 (net) and is ~33% G5 equivalent. In contrast, the ACC is a relatively intact original P5 with members of high interest to the other surviving P4s. You have no self-awareness. The BIG12 is the worst (by far) P4 in athletics, academics, value and prestige. It's the option of last resort. When the ACC depletes out, the BIG12 gets deeper in its grave. Sorry.
@tarheel7406 first off if acc was any good the won't be at the end. Bad management has lead to pac 12 and acc demise. How smart was that. What teams do you think will be taken by b1gor sec
Big 12 is a G5 football conference and Utah had to eat some humble pie to step down to that level. Basketball doesn’t matter for Conference Power designation due to the NCAA Playoff format.
@@brentw0681 didn't we do this before. We have a better from 1 year 5 years 19 years. You picked one rite. The real issue is kyledidnt build the program or is all his wins p5 wins. Seriously need to find new Stuff. Osu has a wide margin when playing ranked teams. We have played more and beaten more at a higher rate.
@@robertpearce4316 OSU has faced lower ranked ranked teams on average. They beat more ranked teams but also lose games to teams like South Alabama or UCF.
@brentw0681 dude I give an a for effort. C for original content. F for facts. Last year alone we beat 4 ranked teams by coach's end poll. When we played ou they were 10. Reason the were not in the title game and ranked in top 10, was because we beat them. 21 season we beat 3 top 10 teams and 3 blue blood. Ranked us 7th. Even a bad year in 2018 we beat 3 top 10 teams. I'm sorry for you misconception. Remember utah is the one that has years of wins in a g5 league, because in the pac 12 you guys have never lost less then 3 games. Talk about lose to bad teams utah was top 10 11 wins lose their bowl to a 7 win team. That's utah apex.
NEVER put all your power in one area of the country. Why? Too big of a voting block.
Big 12 wil not get the brands your talk about. Clemson fsu north Carolina and miami are going some where else. Noter dame is a problem. I dnt want all of the rest of acc. No California teams. I would rather have wsu and osu then bc or wake.
"I would rather have wsu and osu then bc or wake."
Understandable. So why can't BIG12 fans see from a similar perspective from the ACC's point of view? For instance, NCSTATE would rather play WAKE and DUKE than BAYLOR and TCU.
@tarheel7406 first off we would hav to ask our overlords how many we can have. So if they say 4 then ncsu can stay in the power conference or not.
How many of the acc teams do you think will go to big10 and sec. Big 10 my not move unless nd does finally
Great discussion, utah is in big trouble for basketball… I’ve loved watching the football program develop under Coach Kyle, I have sky high expectations for this year. Can’t wait!!
Thanks David!
Jt nice fix on good big 12 teams almost when over osu and others.
The BIG12 has already fallen apart. Much better chance at FSU (~50%). Outside of FSU, if ACC schools are moving to the BIG12, the B12 would then be Tier 1 irrelevant.
You kept telling everyone the acc is better then big12. If your not a conference how can you be relevant.
@@robertpearce4316 Why would the ACC not be a conference? It would have to heavily deplete out to the SEC/B1G and then dissolve, which would make the then BIG12 irrelevant. That's the B12's catch-22.
@tarheel7406 acc has no value with out Clemson and fsu. Miami and North Carolina pretend to play football. The others are a joke.
There will be a few left to rot. Acc will not be a conference
@@robertpearce4316 The BIG12 has ALREADY lost its top 6 (net) and is ~33% G5 equivalent. In contrast, the ACC is a relatively intact original P5 with members of high interest to the other surviving P4s.
You have no self-awareness. The BIG12 is the worst (by far) P4 in athletics, academics, value and prestige. It's the option of last resort. When the ACC depletes out, the BIG12 gets deeper in its grave. Sorry.
@tarheel7406 first off if acc was any good the won't be at the end. Bad management has lead to pac 12 and acc demise. How smart was that.
What teams do you think will be taken by b1gor sec
Big 12 is a G5 football conference and Utah had to eat some humble pie to step down to that level.
Basketball doesn’t matter for Conference Power designation due to the NCAA Playoff format.
Your mom is a G5 football conference
Are you claiming the PAC was better than the Big12? The PAC had no impact at the national level for a couple of decades.
Is this the first time utah doesnt lose more then 3 games as a power team. Lol.
@@robertpearce4316 Utah has a higher win% than OSU the last 10 years.
@@brentw0681 didn't we do this before. We have a better from 1 year 5 years 19 years. You picked one rite. The real issue is kyledidnt build the program or is all his wins p5 wins. Seriously need to find new
Stuff. Osu has a wide margin when playing ranked teams. We have played more and beaten more at a higher rate.
@@robertpearce4316 OSU has faced lower ranked ranked teams on average. They beat more ranked teams but also lose games to teams like South Alabama or UCF.
@brentw0681 dude I give an a for effort. C for original content. F for facts.
Last year alone we beat 4 ranked teams by coach's end poll. When we played ou they were 10. Reason the were not in the title game and ranked in top 10, was because we beat them. 21 season we beat 3 top 10 teams and 3 blue blood. Ranked us 7th.
Even a bad year in 2018 we beat 3 top 10 teams.
I'm sorry for you misconception. Remember utah is the one that has years of wins in a g5 league, because in the pac 12 you guys have never lost less then 3 games. Talk about lose to bad teams utah was top 10 11 wins lose their bowl to a 7 win team. That's utah apex.