@@jason9875 THE RACE is the Sunday Sport of F1 news. They present rumours as possible facts and then sensationalise them with spin. It's compelling if you like that type of stuff, but not if you like just the facts.
@@jason9875 How could The Race destroy it when it is an offshoot of Autosport with ex-employees, the same content but even less editorial oversight. Their videos feel like Reddit posts or tweets stretched to the almighty 10-minute UA-cam mark. It's always funny to read people saying The Race is so much better when they double down on the content that people were crying about on Autosport - and made by the same people. As if they only wanted a shiny new thing or there is a dramatic shift in the demographics watching Autosport and The Race. The new motorsport season starts soon and normal programming shall resume.
its hilariously ironic that one of the things the FIA looked at in new entrants was self-sufficiency and then proceeds to let in entrants that would all be gone within 4 yrs or so never even sniffing the midfield
In fairness they did get fucked over by the budget cap u-turn. Same thing would have happened to Lola; they admitted that they couldn’t afford F1 without that budget cap.
The 1985-1986 Beatrice Haas team has nothing to do with Lola Cars. Carl Haas (no relation) simply used the Lola name because he was their American importer. The company that actually built the cars was known as FORCE.
It’s so painful that Lola did not get to have a go in F1 in 2010. Would have been so good to see them avenge 97! And why have the teams closed the door to new entrants now with $200 million payments...when there actually is a budget cap???
Max Mosley is mainly to blame for the failures of the 2010-entrants. He promised them something impossible. He was too confindent in his abilities and thought he could convince/blackmail the big players (Ferrari, McLaren, Renault) to acccept a ridiculously low budget cap (in Ferrari's case 10x lower than they previously spent per season). After the budget cap was history, anyone of those 2010-projects was doomed, as they didn't have nearly enough money to be competitive in F1.
£50m in 2010 is about £65.6m in 2020 money. Caterham F1 had a £65m budget in 2013 (according to your _The True Cost of F1_ piece) and, er, suffice to say they're not around anymore...
Lola deserves someone like Lawrence Stroll to buy their facilities and bring their name to the pinnacle of motorsport. I hope it won't be Dmitry Mazepin!
When I lived just down the road in St Ives I went to the see the factory on the industrial estate outside Huntingdon, around 2012. The place looked huge but really sadly unused. Seemed such a waste of a great name.
The Haas-Lola entrant from 1985-86 had nothing to do with Lola. Carl Haas called his chassis Lola due to his connection with the team in sportscars. Lola didn't design the car at all.
The point was that lola was promised money that never came and started with old HB Cosworth engines, at the time we were building the F1 engine for them financed by UBANHURST, ZUES, and my company MCD. Lola was supposed to pay for design rights etc. The engines were to be completed by June of that year and that is why in the interim they used the HBs. By May Lola had not paid any moneys for design and The partners were worried, when we couldnt get an answer from EB, therefore, i got Summary Judgement against Lola, and the receivers, after the partners and myself refused to place an offer for the company ,the reciever then sold the company to Barrain. The F1 engine destined for Lola was sold to another F1 company and had resonable success, the sale did cut our losses .
I heard a rumour that the marketing guy who needed to pitch the project to the FIA turned up late to that meeting, which counted against the team? True?
This is another area in which F-1 management sucks. Screw the $100 million deposit and the restrained grid. Let any competitor show up and let the fastest shoot it out for the grid in qualifying. Yeah, have per-qualifying for new entries to make sure they are up to qualifying speed, but restricting the gird to 10-12 teams for a season sucks.
You’re missing the main reason why they didn’t manage to make it to the grid...they went bankrupt lol. I drive past the old Lola factory everyday. Since closing its doors, all of the specialist equipment (including wind tunnel) has been removed and sold on. It has been home to a door manufacturer for the past few years.
Did you watch the video or have any idea of the concept of time? He mentions the company went defunct at the end of the video with the name and some of the companies resources still available to be purchased. So he didn’t miss it and on top of that it wouldn’t of had any role in the team not making it. The company didn’t go bankrupt until a few years after this attempted entry and most of the funding was expected to come outside of the company (e.g. sponsors and paydrivers). I’m also not 100% sure on this but from what I’ve seen Lola’s owner was personally paying whatever else was needed to get it started up not the company themselves.
@@elcactusdelamuerte506 - of course them going bankrupt would have had EVERY factor of them not getting in!!! As a company, you’re not ok one day then bankrupt the next! The people who were looking it to their finances from the FIA would have flagged this as a major concern. That led to the need to hire pay drivers. So yeah I did watch the video and do in-fact have a very good concept of time. As I had family working for Lola at the time of this F1 attempted entry, I probably have a much better idea of what was going on there than you at this point ;)
@@Chr15py_ it wasn’t one day it was three years and during that three year period the company attempted numerous things like getting into aviation which you can’t exactly do with no cash. Yes they were likely struggling at this point but I doubt administration and bankruptcy were even being considered And if the fia was checking finances so effectively how the hell did the teams we got make it to the grid? You telling me Hispania was more stable at the time?
@@elcactusdelamuerte506 - it was three years correct. Like I said before, a company isn’t fine one day and bad the next. They get progressively worse over a number of years and going bankrupt if the nail in the coffin....let’s say a minimum of three ;). Did they attempt to get into Aviation? Did they succeed? No? I wonder why that was...oh yeah, money ;). Hispania had more money from pay drivers if I remember correctly but being honest, non of the three should have got back in. All three had less money than HAAS did when they joined and let’s face it, they’ve not done that well either.
FYI if Mark Gallagher is Irish then it should be pronounced Gall-a-her cause its an irish name. Should be that way wherever they are from but most English have adopted there own pronunciation. We say your bullshit place names right Berkshire, Worcester etc
He singlehandedly is trying to keep this channel alive.
Is THE RACE destroying it?
@@jason9875 THE RACE is the Sunday Sport of F1 news. They present rumours as possible facts and then sensationalise them with spin. It's compelling if you like that type of stuff, but not if you like just the facts.
@@jason9875 How could The Race destroy it when it is an offshoot of Autosport with ex-employees, the same content but even less editorial oversight. Their videos feel like Reddit posts or tweets stretched to the almighty 10-minute UA-cam mark.
It's always funny to read people saying The Race is so much better when they double down on the content that people were crying about on Autosport - and made by the same people.
As if they only wanted a shiny new thing or there is a dramatic shift in the demographics watching Autosport and The Race.
The new motorsport season starts soon and normal programming shall resume.
@@theinventor3986 nice if you like the kindergarten level autosport has fallen to...
@@edouardxi130 lol the race shat on them last year
its hilariously ironic that one of the things the FIA looked at in new entrants was self-sufficiency and then proceeds to let in entrants that would all be gone within 4 yrs or so never even sniffing the midfield
Marussia/ Manor was at the back of the midfield... bit like Williams in 2019
In fairness they did get fucked over by the budget cap u-turn. Same thing would have happened to Lola; they admitted that they couldn’t afford F1 without that budget cap.
@@rickvisser8296thats only because the two other teams folded before Manor
The 1985-1986 Beatrice Haas team has nothing to do with Lola Cars. Carl Haas (no relation) simply used the Lola name because he was their American importer. The company that actually built the cars was known as FORCE.
Lola would have been more qualified than any of the other 2010 teams to enter F1 surely.
Lola should've been bigger in F1
Yeah but they were always being run by clueless morons.
Would have loved to see Carroll in F1. He was mega in F3 and GP2
It was a real surprise when we didn't make the grid...technically and personnel-wise I think we were ready..a real shame.
It’s so painful that Lola did not get to have a go in F1 in 2010. Would have been so good to see them avenge 97! And why have the teams closed the door to new entrants now with $200 million payments...when there actually is a budget cap???
Max Mosley is mainly to blame for the failures of the 2010-entrants. He promised them something impossible. He was too confindent in his abilities and thought he could convince/blackmail the big players (Ferrari, McLaren, Renault) to acccept a ridiculously low budget cap (in Ferrari's case 10x lower than they previously spent per season).
After the budget cap was history, anyone of those 2010-projects was doomed, as they didn't have nearly enough money to be competitive in F1.
£50m in 2010 is about £65.6m in 2020 money. Caterham F1 had a £65m budget in 2013 (according to your _The True Cost of F1_ piece) and, er, suffice to say they're not around anymore...
Lola deserves someone like Lawrence Stroll to buy their facilities and bring their name to the pinnacle of motorsport. I hope it won't be Dmitry Mazepin!
Lawrence isn't fairing any better
Great video, I guess the next one will be about Stefan GP?
Or USF1? Or did he already make a video on it
@@yesd2024 that video came out like half an hour after I wrote that comment lol :-(
When I lived just down the road in St Ives I went to the see the factory on the industrial estate outside Huntingdon, around 2012. The place looked huge but really sadly unused. Seemed such a waste of a great name.
Agreed. I was born and grew up in Huntingdon, it’s been sad since Lola folded.
The factory in Huntingdon is now as of 2023 mid way through being demolished sadly.
@@jamesswadling3863 gutted 😢
The Haas-Lola entrant from 1985-86 had nothing to do with Lola. Carl Haas called his chassis Lola due to his connection with the team in sportscars. Lola didn't design the car at all.
The point was that lola was promised money that never came and started with old HB Cosworth engines, at the time we were building the F1 engine for them financed by UBANHURST, ZUES, and my company MCD. Lola was supposed to pay for design rights etc. The engines were to be completed by June of that year and that is why in the interim they used the HBs. By May Lola had not paid any moneys for
design and The partners were worried, when we couldnt get an answer from EB, therefore, i got Summary Judgement against Lola, and the receivers, after the partners and myself refused to place an offer for the company ,the reciever then sold the company to Barrain. The F1 engine destined for Lola was sold to another F1 company and had resonable success, the sale did cut our losses .
Your English is terrible.
Sorry fella. But i suppose you got the message.
I wonder if they have plans to do USF1.
👀
I think it's next one since, USF1 was confirmed as the 13rd team for the 2010 season.
@@AutosportOfficial stefan gp when
@@AutosportOfficial interview the lovely Peter Windsor!
@@kanserholicgaming4068 Stefan was just as much of a farce as USF1 lol.
Stefan gp when
lol just like 1997
Not in the slightest lmao
It is Lola not lol
Nah
It really wasn’t. For one, they didn’t have MasterCard fucking them over again.
I heard a rumour that the marketing guy who needed to pitch the project to the FIA turned up late to that meeting, which counted against the team? True?
2:45 Did anyone else hear "Matt Gallagher
Yeah
Matt Gallagher🤮🤮
Mark and who cares about that cringe UA-camr
Matt Gallagher is the shit stain on the f1 community
@@dj.m682 Absolutely.
This is another area in which F-1 management sucks. Screw the $100 million deposit and the restrained grid. Let any competitor show up and let the fastest shoot it out for the grid in qualifying. Yeah, have per-qualifying for new entries to make sure they are up to qualifying speed, but restricting the gird to 10-12 teams for a season sucks.
I dont think you know this but the reason why the limit of teams in f1 is 13 is because the monaco pits can only hold 13 teams in it
Lola motorsport will now appear in Formula E, as Abt Lola team, using Lola-Yamaha power train for the 2024-25 season.
Do a video on dallara
I would love to see more Irish in F1
Lola would of made it in, but probably would be a gridsitter like the rest we've got, so yeah
I hope it will be easier to join f1
You’re missing the main reason why they didn’t manage to make it to the grid...they went bankrupt lol.
I drive past the old Lola factory everyday. Since closing its doors, all of the specialist equipment (including wind tunnel) has been removed and sold on. It has been home to a door manufacturer for the past few years.
yeah, it is now Phoenix Composite 😂.
Did you watch the video or have any idea of the concept of time?
He mentions the company went defunct at the end of the video with the name and some of the companies resources still available to be purchased. So he didn’t miss it and on top of that it wouldn’t of had any role in the team not making it.
The company didn’t go bankrupt until a few years after this attempted entry and most of the funding was expected to come outside of the company (e.g. sponsors and paydrivers). I’m also not 100% sure on this but from what I’ve seen Lola’s owner was personally paying whatever else was needed to get it started up not the company themselves.
@@elcactusdelamuerte506 - of course them going bankrupt would have had EVERY factor of them not getting in!!! As a company, you’re not ok one day then bankrupt the next! The people who were looking it to their finances from the FIA would have flagged this as a major concern. That led to the need to hire pay drivers.
So yeah I did watch the video and do in-fact have a very good concept of time. As I had family working for Lola at the time of this F1 attempted entry, I probably have a much better idea of what was going on there than you at this point ;)
@@Chr15py_ it wasn’t one day it was three years and during that three year period the company attempted numerous things like getting into aviation which you can’t exactly do with no cash. Yes they were likely struggling at this point but I doubt administration and bankruptcy were even being considered
And if the fia was checking finances so effectively how the hell did the teams we got make it to the grid? You telling me Hispania was more stable at the time?
@@elcactusdelamuerte506 - it was three years correct. Like I said before, a company isn’t fine one day and bad the next. They get progressively worse over a number of years and going bankrupt if the nail in the coffin....let’s say a minimum of three ;).
Did they attempt to get into Aviation? Did they succeed? No? I wonder why that was...oh yeah, money ;). Hispania had more money from pay drivers if I remember correctly but being honest, non of the three should have got back in. All three had less money than HAAS did when they joined and let’s face it, they’ve not done that well either.
Honestly, it won’t be good for those languages (idk how many languages) where “lola” means grandma. Idk man, it doesn’t have a good ring to it.
Lola closed the doors?
Idk that too until I googled it they closed in 2012
@@adrianalprin5752 That's a shame, they did one of my favorites race cars of the last decade, the Aston Martin Lola V12, amazing sound.
still open....they just announce it's sale for 7 million pounds.....
@@johnpatricklim4509 The assets are for sale, the original Lola company folded in 2012. I was hoping to do work experience with them that year ☹️
The MacBook ruins the intro please remove it
its just a laptop
Just cause you can’t afford it doesn’t mean that they can’t
@@QWERTY708100 It kind of defeats the purpose of the noir vibes they were aiming for
Lola had a opportunity and ka boosh
Idk about the whole videos being black and white
FYI if Mark Gallagher is Irish then it should be pronounced Gall-a-her cause its an irish name. Should be that way wherever they are from but most English have adopted there own pronunciation. We say your bullshit place names right Berkshire, Worcester etc
Sort your tie out. FFS.
Lol
It's boring