When it comes to Sonic, I'm more of a bigger fan of KEN's Sonic in action since Smash 4 days. But I gotta say, this set was actually exciting and silly to watch, and Sonix was actually playing somewhat oppressive most of the time VS Gackt, which is something I enjoy watching since that's usually something Sonic would actually do. Also that moment when Sonix tried to B-Air Gackt, but ended up dying from PK Thunder knockback was hilarious lol
I was hyped the last few games and nothing gonna make me feel bad about that I will say the fact that the "fastest" character in the game feels slower to watch against someone like Fox shows alot about Sonics Design and it is sad to see the better player lose (Sonix still the best Sonic tho) EDIT: You can keep the takr on Gackt being the better player in my questionable track record lmao They both got the same placement at Double Down tho so 🙃
@@ojo4949 I know it's been two months but now their results in recent tournaments show that even when this tournament happened, Sonix was likely the better player
The Sonic hater salt is palpable. What a phenomenal match between two absolutely fantastic players (that would absolutely wash all the whiners here!). This set was so intense for those guys and the entire crowd- respect to both players. 🙌 💯 Entertaining as hell.
Sonix is obviously a skilled player, evident by the fact that he's in top 8 at a major, and I can't blame him for playing to his character's strengths, but gosh I hate this character.
@@alexfpower Alex I see you out here! Look, I'm sure Sonic is fun as hell to main. I like to play him every once in a while for funzies. But Sonix plays a cheesy game and he's literally the only Sonic main most of us have a reference to... the bottom line here is that no one likes to be camped out and to see that at a high level pisses a lot of people off.
Honestly I like slower paced matches, sometimes they're a nice change of pace compared to fast action However, spin dash literally had the most obnoxious sound effects in the entire game, which is why sonic is the only character I hard pass on whatching
even after playing sonic for 1200 hours ive never had homing attack lock on from that deep below stage. is that a ness using yoyo specific thing at 27:16?
1 he reaches his hitbox down with the yo-yo 2 Sonic’s tracking reaches farther when facing his opponent and has decent tracking when they stand by the ledge
...lmao so many weird people saying sonic sucks, hes boring to watch and is a cringy playstyle? More like hes super fun to watch, play and they designed him really well imo. Im glad they gave him some good speed and made him balanced imo. (In smash 4 I agree he was OP but not in ultimate).
i wouldn’t say they designed him well. He’s had the pretty much the same kit since brawl and even then he was a rushed character, as for watching, sometimes he is just depends who’s playing him. I like to play himself tho, he’s fun
He still had some great plays. He uses his characters best attribute, his SPEED. Can’t hate on him for that. No one hates on kazuyas for spamming/using EWGF when it’s just as annoying and hard to deal with
@@leifpeterson4850 a character that uses his speed while not being cringe is fox, or falcon, but this guy is just lame. Even hungrybox can be hype, but sonic? Zzz
@@leifpeterson4850 Falcon is LAME AS HELL, he does the same shit over and over again, Fox is HYPE on the right hands, but Sonix's Sonic is so campy and very lame.
15:21 this should be nerfed somehow, it shouldn't let you be so mobile while charging it, it's a kill move that's safe on shield has next to no end lag lets you dodge while charging it and always combos into something or kills you upright if it hits. That'd be like if Zelda's phantom had a homing capability and Zelda could move while charging it and hitting her wouldn't make it go away
No it wouldn't be like that, Zelda's Phantom is a disjoint unlike sonic hurling his body at you. His hurtbox is still there so you can challenge the move
I'm admittedly very salty, I wanted Gackt to win it all, but he gets cheesed by this dork. Sonix is like Joffrey from GOT, nobody likes him because we all intrinsically know a lame when we see one
@@renefuentes2939 why? One can already find such a person in the one place wherein they exist: a book. Elsewhere? Like irl? Nope. Nah, I won’t respect indoctrinated persons, and idgaf if that makes me bigoted in this instance.
Glad to see that Sonix hasn't evolved his playstyle. Not a big fan of Ness either but seeing him fleeing and using special moves from away is so boring.
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When it comes to Sonic, I'm more of a bigger fan of KEN's Sonic in action since Smash 4 days. But I gotta say, this set was actually exciting and silly to watch, and Sonix was actually playing somewhat oppressive most of the time VS Gackt, which is something I enjoy watching since that's usually something Sonic would actually do.
Also that moment when Sonix tried to B-Air Gackt, but ended up dying from PK Thunder knockback was hilarious lol
Honestly, I like Sonic gameplay. When Sonic and Ken turn up, they turn UP. Love the kill at 25:00.
まじでネス単でここまでこれるのすごいと思う…
ネス使いの希望です。
25:55 damn sonix is moving right here
13:23 You may have lost but you are the people's champ for that one. Who says ness players don't have brains?
People always find any way possible to hate sonix. He clearly has a brain if he can win against other pro players.
@@ShadowerzTheFreedomSpreader no brains, just abusing one gimmick xd
@@janswhatsupdoc tell me.jist exactly what is being "abused"
@@janswhatsupdoc Just another hater. Cry about it
I was hyped the last few games and nothing gonna make me feel bad about that
I will say the fact that the "fastest" character in the game feels slower to watch against someone like Fox shows alot about Sonics Design and it is sad to see the better player lose (Sonix still the best Sonic tho)
EDIT: You can keep the takr on Gackt being the better player in my questionable track record lmao
They both got the same placement at Double Down tho so 🙃
@Jermare ... Spin Dash is a part Sonic's design right?
I don't think Gackt is necessarily the better player here
@@danielallard2958 why not?
its not a sonic vid without someone complaining about his design, cry about it.
@@ojo4949 I know it's been two months but now their results in recent tournaments show that even when this tournament happened, Sonix was likely the better player
Sonix上手すぎ
リード取られた時もなんてことなくペース引き戻せるのすごいわ
激戦だったのに終わった後も淡々としてるのもクールでかっこいい
がくとさんもお疲れさまでした GG！
Sonic defenders really gonna say this set was hype because there was 1 good move in between 30 seconds of stalling
🤓🤓🤓
The Sonic hater salt is palpable. What a phenomenal match between two absolutely fantastic players (that would absolutely wash all the whiners here!). This set was so intense for those guys and the entire crowd- respect to both players. 🙌 💯 Entertaining as hell.
The fight actually was intense but your average sonic haters still find ways to cry
This sonic was good others just camp.
Sonix is obviously a skilled player, evident by the fact that he's in top 8 at a major, and I can't blame him for playing to his character's strengths, but gosh I hate this character.
No you can't blame him for the character, but you can blame him for wanting to play the character
We all do hate Sonic
lol sonic rocks, I play him and love him for sure.
@@alexfpower Alex I see you out here! Look, I'm sure Sonic is fun as hell to main. I like to play him every once in a while for funzies. But Sonix plays a cheesy game and he's literally the only Sonic main most of us have a reference to... the bottom line here is that no one likes to be camped out and to see that at a high level pisses a lot of people off.
@@Reed411 Gackt is also a mega cheese lord though
Honestly I like slower paced matches, sometimes they're a nice change of pace compared to fast action
However, spin dash literally had the most obnoxious sound effects in the entire game, which is why sonic is the only character I hard pass on whatching
even after playing sonic for 1200 hours ive never had homing attack lock on from that deep below stage. is that a ness using yoyo specific thing at 27:16?
1 he reaches his hitbox down with the yo-yo
2 Sonic’s tracking reaches farther when facing his opponent and has decent tracking when they stand by the ledge
*sonic hits opponent a single time*
commentator: OH THIS IS SO BIG
Because it literally is... Every percent matters especially in this mu where timeouts aren't uncommon
...lmao so many weird people saying sonic sucks, hes boring to watch and is a cringy playstyle? More like hes super fun to watch, play and they designed him really well imo. Im glad they gave him some good speed and made him balanced imo. (In smash 4 I agree he was OP but not in ultimate).
i wouldn’t say they designed him well. He’s had the pretty much the same kit since brawl and even then he was a rushed character, as for watching, sometimes he is just depends who’s playing him. I like to play himself tho, he’s fun
In Sonix’s defense a bag is a bag but I cannot excuse the snooze fest that is his play style.
He still had some great plays. He uses his characters best attribute, his SPEED. Can’t hate on him for that. No one hates on kazuyas for spamming/using EWGF when it’s just as annoying and hard to deal with
@@leifpeterson4850 a character that uses his speed while not being cringe is fox, or falcon, but this guy is just lame. Even hungrybox can be hype, but sonic? Zzz
@@Angel-ex1zg BRO 🤦♂️Fox and Falcon but have AMAZING combo games, sonic doesn’t. Sonic relies on his speed more. Next example please :)
@@leifpeterson4850 zss.
@@leifpeterson4850 Falcon is LAME AS HELL, he does the same shit over and over again, Fox is HYPE on the right hands, but Sonix's Sonic is so campy and very lame.
I mean if it works it works. dosent make it any less unwatchable lol.
15:21 this should be nerfed somehow, it shouldn't let you be so mobile while charging it, it's a kill move that's safe on shield has next to no end lag lets you dodge while charging it and always combos into something or kills you upright if it hits. That'd be like if Zelda's phantom had a homing capability and Zelda could move while charging it and hitting her wouldn't make it go away
If Zelda could do that it would be Nasty
No it wouldn't be like that, Zelda's Phantom is a disjoint unlike sonic hurling his body at you. His hurtbox is still there so you can challenge the move
There's counterplay though
Who tf dies from just spin dash lool
@@GawdTy it killed in said set. But it just be like that especially when you’re at 200%
I'm admittedly very salty, I wanted Gackt to win it all, but he gets cheesed by this dork. Sonix is like Joffrey from GOT, nobody likes him because we all intrinsically know a lame when we see one
Sonix💕🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵
stay mad I guess
Bro go find god or something 💀💀💀
@@Dc-pm2hi imagine disagreeing with that comment. sTay Mad you sound like a fucking 12 year old.
@@renefuentes2939 why? One can already find such a person in the one place wherein they exist: a book. Elsewhere? Like irl? Nope. Nah, I won’t respect indoctrinated persons, and idgaf if that makes me bigoted in this instance.
The fact that the character who's only design philosophy is "go fast" is the slowest most boring character in the game is sad
Just because you think he’s boring
@@Kizzainpleh he is boring
@@Reed411 k, not to me
@@Reed411 lol only noobs find him boring, hes got alot to offer.
Skill issue
KENのソニックが攻めすぎって意味が良くわかった！笑
がくとさんお疲れ様だ
大会通してほんとかっこよかった
ネスはソニックめっちゃきつそうなのにフルセットまで持っていくのすごいな
どっちもクソキャラだから相性変わらんよ
@@キングコングバンディと猪木のボディス 思考停止理論草
@@クリ-j1o 明らかにネス側めんどくさいだろw
@@かりも-e5j めんどくさいのはソニックも同じだよ
だから5分
@@クリ-j1o あっはい。そーすねー。
I honestly love characters like Sonic purely because it's really entertaining to see how salty people get over them
Some people just want to watch the world burn
Yeah I can't watch the games but the comments are usually pretty funny
Weird way to say you hate yourself.
@@ABC-ik9vj Bro you got a mario pfp.
@@ABC-ik9vj bruh who hurt you? also says the guy with a mario pfp
ソニックスのプレイスタイルもKENのプレイスタイルも見てる分には割と好き、まぁ当たったらクッソ腹立つやろけど
Glad to see that Sonix hasn't evolved his playstyle.
Not a big fan of Ness either but seeing him fleeing and using special moves from away is so boring.
Keep crying
Second time same commentator said white on rice in a game with Gackt. Japan looking like 👀
最初流れてるBGM、流星のロックマンよな？
The Megaman Starforce 3 music at the start was a great touch lol
I love all the megaman music, esp battle network during this tourney!
海外の方がソニックへのヘイト高い感じあるな
海外の大会見るまでソニックが嫌われてるとすら思ってなかった
Sonix 🇩🇴🇩🇴🇩🇴
Sonix上手いわ、KENと違うタイプでうまい
めっちゃわかる。sonixの方が動き予想できなくていい意味でキモくて見てておもろい
KENはSonixの戦法も取り入れるべきだ できないのかなーやっぱ日本人だと
スピン多彩過ぎる
lame
Talking about unwatchable boring match ups…
What makes this unwatchable
@@ojo4949 Sonic's entire play style at a competitive level is cringe AF
I’m a simple man. I see sonic Rosa or olimar and I root against them. Or skip.
Dang
28 minutes
Poniendo nuestro país en el mapa
Let's go Sonix!
28 minute set, ness and sonic (sonix 🤮) alr yeah I’m not watching this shit
Then don't •_•
@@Johnny-pj9gi I didn’t
@@Johnny-pj9gi incredible comeback. Spectacular, indeed
Fortnite ratio
I don't get why people who don't want to watch a video click on it anyways and then proceed to comment without apporting anything useful.
0 respect for sonic players and sonix for his play style
preach
Stop crying not all sonics play like this
流星のロックマンのBGMや
That was a horrible watch
Sonix上手いんだけどやっぱ冷めるソニックだなぁ
zzzzzzzzzzzz
スピンとPKF擦り合うだけのカード
それしか感想でないぐらいスマブラ浅いんだね
@@ニーソで大胸筋の大きい男
じゃあ解説してくれ
@@ニーソで大胸筋の大きい男 解説しろよ
『じゃあ解説しろよ』ってコメントしか付かないとかゴミだなコイツら。ソニックにもネスにも勝てない未VIPとみた
Sonic is so corny.
KENより強かったね
立ち回り違いすぎたからわかんね
@@バリカタ麺 結果だけで言えばって話じゃね
ごめんやけど普通につまんなかった
勝負の世界やから仕方ないけど
とにかくお疲れさんでした
First!
Fire
ソニックスのソニックは見ててつまらないなw
まあそれをできるようにしちゃったのが良くないんだけど。調整でネタキャラくらいにしないとね
ケンのソニックはソニックスよりは攻めてるから見れるのかな
Cowardly sonic runaway gameplay is so boring to watch
Sonic is awesome. He's so fast... On a side-note, masking should not be mandatory. It's been over two years. Enough is enough.
Keep crying
Not my problem that you want to go directly to the Graveyard, just a reminder that the death rate still pretty high