This was such a good conversation. A lot of Christians aren't reading the bible they are just taking someone else's interpretation and understanding and running with it. I wish some of them would stop acting like they're interviewing to be the bouncer outside of heaven.
I wish people would stop trying to push their Christian beliefs on Kev & Angel!!! They've made it clear that complaining about the way they choose to live isn't going to change their faith!!! If you don't like, stop following them!!!! We needed this podcast today!!! Especially the music break!!! RIP Quincy Jones 🙏🏾
@@hismom5600you Christians definitely push you beliefs onto others. Following your religion it’s right or wrong. Like damn give ppl a choice to live how they please
I love this conversation. It is always healthy to examine your beliefs and find where they are rooted. The fact of the matter is we ALL have been endotrinated in every facet of society...church, school, health, system, ect
This is facts, the reality is we are culturally condition, influenced by our internal and external societal norms, survival and acceptance. Everything can have its beauty, joy and hope but there are other that will use any aspect within our lives to benefit themselves or or particular group. Good thing is that these discussions, show that some of us have grown. #WeMove🙌
As someone who didn’t grow up in the church, it is sooo interesting to hear about yalls experiences and how it’s influenced you. I hope you enjoyed your drink and continue to do so in the future 🥂
Y’all affirmed me so hard with the first topic 😭 I feel like an outlier in my Apostolic Christian family and it can be overwhelming but seeing you successful and happy in God encourages me to continue understanding who God is to me as a happily queer black heathen
Kev and Angel, this segment blessed my life. I was trying to live a "perfect" life according to my belief of what a good Christian should be, it led me to depression. Praise God He got me out of that! I challenged things i believed and some were false because I wanted to appear holy like the Pharisees and it was not truly who God made me to be... So ya'll are speaking truth and I appreciate ya'll!
This episode really touched me. As a fellow church kid turned margarita drinker, I just wanted to leap through my screen and hug you both multiple times throughout this episodee. Thanks for keeping it real.
I feel like we all had the same childhood. I'm grateful for the basic knowledge I received that has carried me through life. However, I'm glad I matured as a Christian and learned how to enjoy life with no condemnation.
This kind of episode was needed for TODAY!!!!!! I don't know if you all planned it this way, but excellent job! Thank you! Definitely cheered me up🥴😩🥰❤️🙏🏼
Both of my grandfathers were pastors and had churches but I only grew up under one because the other died before I was born. I also had a favorite Heathen cousin that was glued to me at the hip, our names even rhymed. When I say EVERYTIME y’all say ‘Back Pew’, it takes me right back to childhood when me and her would be on the back pew and she would be ACTING A FOOL!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I used to be in trouble a large percentage of my childhood because of her!…… #GoodTimes 😎💜
As someone who's been traumatized by Christianity, Kevin got very sound advice. If more churches approached Christianity in the way Kevin was advised to (with context and completion) , it would be more of a safe space for people to be.
The conversation in this episode really healed something in me as a church kid who has been perceived as a “heathen” because I wanted to challenge my belief system. I am so grateful for Kev and Angel being able to put that into words. “We” are acting as the people in the Bible that Jesus spoke about.
I went to the reunion tour and had a beer and margarita....I paid for them floor seats in front of the stage, bought an outfit, paid parking, and gas the lord know I worked hard for every sip as I sang my behind off so bye..Kev don't sweat it
I really appreciate you all being so transparent about your personal religious development. I experienced a lot of the same and had to relearn how to be a Christian in the spirit that Jesus intended, with love and acceptance of myself and others.
I grew up( still am) in the Nation of Islam. I can def empathize with y’all as far as the pressure you put on yourself to be (appear) righteous. I’ve grown to give myself grace for my shortfalls of the law of God. And continue to strive to do good works and clean myself up over time.
This might be one of my favorite discussions from y'all. I grew up Muslim until I was 7yrs, from a mother that grew up in the church. She told me to choose my own belief. I've been learning and challenging many different teachings ever since. I see plenty good and plenty bad from various minds and books. It's important to understand the roots of teachings. For what I believe in shapes how I interact with others and put out content. My partner (we are da gay lol), who grew up in the church, has a mom that preaches. But she also challenges what doesnt make sense while teaching me things I never grew up with. All that's to say, a true open mind can learn, understand and respect others decisions and still walk in their belief. But if you dont understand or feel some type of way, challenge your thinking to see why it is. I think that's closer to being Christ like. Be well, peace & blessings. 💙🤙🏾🦉
This is by far my Favorite episode! As someone who grew up in a strict Muslim community, this conversation is truly important & beautiful! You both spoke facts!
Sin doesn’t evolve though. No, Im not saying drinking is sinful being drunk is. There are also some other things people do that don’t fit in this category!
He brought up parents drinking at Disney on Ice & let me tell yall! I definitely needed a drink when I took my child 😂 she had a blast & I was so stressed by the end of it all 💀
I so enjoy you all! My brother and I were literally back pew kids. Our parents were 'functional alcoholics', they had the most turned up parties on Friday and Saturday nights and thumped us on the church bus on Sunday mornings! Talk about growing up CONFLICTED AND CONFUSED!!! The church members never asked or knew where our parents where.
Not to G-d there is. Sin is sin. Tho I donot believe that it is a sin to have alcohol, the sin is being drunk. let’s not measure sin by our own understanding. According to the Lord it is all the same.
Quincy Jones’ Secret Garden song was so well done! Seamless chemistry between all of the artists, it felt like everyone’s song, not like a bunch of artists together. So good!
I don't drink due to aligning with what God wants me to do. I wasn't an alcoholic but I just wanted to be clear and sober minded. Now when people come to my house they are free to drink with no convictions. I have liquor in my house.
The Bible speaks to walking in the counsel of the ungodly however, it also encourages us to help those who do wrong. Life should not change your beliefs. The Bible is our way to understanding Christ and faith is believing in his word and not leaning on our own understanding
The Expectation To Be Perfect Is What It is & When You Finally Let It Go..They Get Mad .But You Feel So Much Better Don't Ask Me How I Know..Cause I Know
Honestly I’m glad there’s technology now to see how narrow the path truly is. We can call ourselves Christians all day long but by their fruits you will know them. “God knows my heart.” But does He know you? I pray not just Kev and Angel but other Christians really seek first the Kingdom of God. We have to hold ourselves accountable
Well this has been THEE nostalgic episode! The 'Tomorrow' of it all (performed that with my class at the school Spring Festival of '90), Limewire/Kazaa/Bearshare (set the home PC ablaze summer of '98), 'Ask Jeeves' (I loved that cute butler icon, Google who?), 'Mavis Beacon' (Office Procedures class '96-'98), no 'Blockbuster' on the islands, but we did have 'Super Video' and 'Juggies Video' for the good ole rentals back in the 80s/90s'/00s. Good times!📼💿🖥💽
Loving Churchy, you Kev!! Drank that cuz Jesus turned water into wine and let it flow. Love this Unruly Cousins pod!!!❤❤❤ We all have to work on our relationship with the Lord,Kev said it,Amen.
I've always felt this way about having a drink. It's a drink, like soda or tea or everything else. It's what you make it. Occasionally (maybe once a month) I have a glass of wine on my porch with my husband. It's our in house date night. Then we go to bed. That's it. No harm, no fight, the kids are sleep. It's just something we do. As long as it stays that, I don't feel otherwise convicted.
I just talked about the Christian bubble and how there is such a small square of communal sameness and pressure and shaming. Exposure to others is really important.
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I purposely missed the live so I could have this as a pick me up today just in case
you and me both babe 🤝🏾
Same!😢
That's a great way to look at it. I was bummed I missed it again. Thank you for the positive perspective.❤
Smart
Same
This was such a good conversation. A lot of Christians aren't reading the bible they are just taking someone else's interpretation and understanding and running with it. I wish some of them would stop acting like they're interviewing to be the bouncer outside of heaven.
They swear thery are the DeBo of the gates.
🎯🎯🎯🎯
This was so optimistic “if you keep living living you don’t know what you might do!” Cmon somebody
God KNEW we'd need an almost TWO HOUR HTT today! 😩😢
THANK YOU JESUS 🙌🏾🙏🏾 & Kev 🎬 Angel 👼🏾 & Josh📸/"Spanish Guy" 🇲🇽🕺🏻
Facts!😂 I needed this today!
As a church kid, I been watching Kev since I was like 14 (i’m 24 now). The way he’s still keeps God first is dope very inspiring!
He’s gotten lukewarm but he’s very entertaining.
You can’t keep God first but live like the world 🙏🏽
@@Destrey34 You heard NOTHING of what they said. I h&te that for you. Smh
@@Destrey34how is he living of this world? What is he doing that’s away from God
I wish people would stop trying to push their Christian beliefs on Kev & Angel!!! They've made it clear that complaining about the way they choose to live isn't going to change their faith!!! If you don't like, stop following them!!!!
We needed this podcast today!!! Especially the music break!!! RIP Quincy Jones 🙏🏾
Push beliefs or suggest a standard? Truth doesn't automatically equal hating or control.
@@hismom5600you Christians definitely push you beliefs onto others. Following your religion it’s right or wrong. Like damn give ppl a choice to live how they please
@hismom5600 who's standard? Obviously, it's not theirs!
I love this conversation. It is always healthy to examine your beliefs and find where they are rooted. The fact of the matter is we ALL have been endotrinated in every facet of society...church, school, health, system, ect
indoctrinated
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
This is facts, the reality is we are culturally condition, influenced by our internal and external societal norms, survival and acceptance. Everything can have its beauty, joy and hope but there are other that will use any aspect within our lives to benefit themselves or or particular group. Good thing is that these discussions, show that some of us have grown. #WeMove🙌
As a kid who was fasting in high school like Angel 🙌🏾😂😂😂 I'm so glad so many of us are lightening up as we age. Life is for living!
This convo right here... Convo right here... THIS is why I rock with y'all! 👏🏾👏🏾 Really appreciate this talk (not being preached to, but spoken to).
As someone who didn’t grow up in the church, it is sooo interesting to hear about yalls experiences and how it’s influenced you. I hope you enjoyed your drink and continue to do so in the future 🥂
Kev has enjoyed a manyyyyyy drinks in the last few years.......😂😂
Y’all affirmed me so hard with the first topic 😭 I feel like an outlier in my Apostolic Christian family and it can be overwhelming but seeing you successful and happy in God encourages me to continue understanding who God is to me as a happily queer black heathen
Thank ya’ll for this episode we needed this pick me up or something to put our mind on something different.
This conversation was beautiful and incredible. Thank you for sharing
Kev and Angel, this segment blessed my life. I was trying to live a "perfect" life according to my belief of what a good Christian should be, it led me to depression. Praise God He got me out of that! I challenged things i believed and some were false because I wanted to appear holy like the Pharisees and it was not truly who God made me to be... So ya'll are speaking truth and I appreciate ya'll!
This episode really touched me. As a fellow church kid turned margarita drinker, I just wanted to leap through my screen and hug you both multiple times throughout this episodee. Thanks for keeping it real.
Mannnnn listen. They said some real real
I feel like we all had the same childhood. I'm grateful for the basic knowledge I received that has carried me through life. However, I'm glad I matured as a Christian and learned how to enjoy life with no condemnation.
That Quincy documentary is my favorite documentary of all time. So well produced! I'm a big documentary lover and it's really one of the best ever.
This episode is why I started following kev 5 years ago… Angel came and they made the perfect match. Talking that talk!! 🔥🔥🔥
The song “Tomorrow” makes me weep like a baby every time I heard it! Those babies sung to my soul! 😢
This conversation was goooooood yall. People needed this word! Lead with looooooove. ❤
‘whats the accent?’
‘I’m just yelling.’
🥹😭😭😭
Definitely need this right now..
This kind of episode was needed for TODAY!!!!!! I don't know if you all planned it this way, but excellent job! Thank you! Definitely cheered me up🥴😩🥰❤️🙏🏼
Thanks for dropping this today🎉
Both of my grandfathers were pastors and had churches but I only grew up under one because the other died before I was born. I also had a favorite Heathen cousin that was glued to me at the hip, our names even rhymed. When I say EVERYTIME y’all say ‘Back Pew’, it takes me right back to childhood when me and her would be on the back pew and she would be ACTING A FOOL!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I used to be in trouble a large percentage of my childhood because of her!…… #GoodTimes 😎💜
Wow I feel like the first conversation is exactly what I needed. Thank you for your vulnerability!
Christianity 101 and Black people 202. I can't!😂😂😂
No lies detected
Needed this after waking up to those results 🤦🏾♀️
As someone who's been traumatized by Christianity, Kevin got very sound advice. If more churches approached Christianity in the way Kevin was advised to (with context and completion) , it would be more of a safe space for people to be.
We don’t need to approach Christianity according to “KEV”
We need to approach Christianity through God and His Word
@Destrey34 I don't need to approach it all, but thanks for the input
Y’all don’t even understand how much I needed to just laugh at stuff today. Thank you! 🩷
The conversation in this episode really healed something in me as a church kid who has been perceived as a “heathen” because I wanted to challenge my belief system. I am so grateful for Kev and Angel being able to put that into words. “We” are acting as the people in the Bible that Jesus spoke about.
Thanks Angel, I needed your music today.
I went to the reunion tour and had a beer and margarita....I paid for them floor seats in front of the stage, bought an outfit, paid parking, and gas the lord know I worked hard for every sip as I sang my behind off so bye..Kev don't sweat it
🎉 Also is no one gonna talk about the fact that holy women invented beer to protect the community from waterborne sickness...😂
We are all living the same life and had the same experience growing up. Both Kev and Angel's stories resonated with me today.
I really appreciate you all being so transparent about your personal religious development. I experienced a lot of the same and had to relearn how to be a Christian in the spirit that Jesus intended, with love and acceptance of myself and others.
31:50 This whole conversation is so good. I think we could all be in a better place if we have these conversations routinely.
I grew up( still am) in the Nation of Islam. I can def empathize with y’all as far as the pressure you put on yourself to be (appear) righteous. I’ve grown to give myself grace for my shortfalls of the law of God. And continue to strive to do good works and clean myself up over time.
This might be one of my favorite discussions from y'all. I grew up Muslim until I was 7yrs, from a mother that grew up in the church. She told me to choose my own belief. I've been learning and challenging many different teachings ever since. I see plenty good and plenty bad from various minds and books. It's important to understand the roots of teachings. For what I believe in shapes how I interact with others and put out content.
My partner (we are da gay lol), who grew up in the church, has a mom that preaches. But she also challenges what doesnt make sense while teaching me things I never grew up with.
All that's to say, a true open mind can learn, understand and respect others decisions and still walk in their belief. But if you dont understand or feel some type of way, challenge your thinking to see why it is. I think that's closer to being Christ like. Be well, peace & blessings. 💙🤙🏾🦉
Needed a pick me up today
Me too😂😂😂 This is right on time!
Chile don’t we all
We alllllllll did😅
We’ll be okay. Kev is about to eat pumpkin pie any way so be prepared for more disappointment lol
Listen
Bible talks about not being drunk, not able to make sound decisions, and keeping others who may not be able withstand from falling
This is by far my Favorite episode! As someone who grew up in a strict Muslim community, this conversation is truly important & beautiful! You both spoke facts!
I needed this yall. We are all we got. ✊🏾
33:48 I have evolved, and I'm still evolving. Me now vs me 10 years ago vs me 20 years ago are different people. Same vessel.
Sin doesn’t evolve though. No, Im not saying drinking is sinful being drunk is. There are also some other things people do that don’t fit in this category!
@dmajorx ok. Be blessed
He brought up parents drinking at Disney on Ice & let me tell yall! I definitely needed a drink when I took my child 😂 she had a blast & I was so stressed by the end of it all 💀
really great stocking stuffer is hilarious Angel! I can’t 😂 thank y’all for this conversation.
I needed this HTT today Thank You!
Thank you for making me laugh today. God knows I needed it. Bless you both :) ...and Josh :)
I absolutely love this episode!! Well I love ALL the episodes, but this one spoke to me even more.
I so enjoy you all! My brother and I were literally back pew kids. Our parents were 'functional alcoholics', they had the most turned up parties on Friday and Saturday nights and thumped us on the church bus on Sunday mornings! Talk about growing up CONFLICTED AND CONFUSED!!! The church members never asked or knew where our parents where.
Yeeessss Angel!! Optimistic is the Only way to be!🙌🏾🙌🏾 Yall are really my cousins in my head and heart! Great Episode🎉❤
I believe as Christians there are way more serious sins we need to be condemning like child molestation, political corruption and human trafficking.
Not to G-d there is. Sin is sin. Tho I donot believe that it is a sin to have alcohol, the sin is being drunk. let’s not measure sin by our own understanding. According to the Lord it is all the same.
Early work day and get home to an almost two hour episode. Let's go
THIS IS GOODT UNTO ME TUH'DAY!!! I appreciate the REAL conversation y'all are having 💜
I love you guys! Loved this episode! WE lost but Angel you spoke truth! We will survive this! ❤
This. Thank you both.
This conversation gives me life! Keep living, you never know what you might accomplish if you keep trying new things.
Quincy Jones’ Secret Garden song was so well done! Seamless chemistry between all of the artists, it felt like everyone’s song, not like a bunch of artists together. So good!
I almost shouted while watching this episode. My goodness 💃. Good episode!!!
(HEATHEN) is killing me 😂
I was patiently waiting for this upload.
Feel like I’ve been waiting my whole life for this full full! YASSSSS! Right on time after that wacky election!
ANGEL!! Girl you brought back a whole memory. Lemmie go download Slim Calhoun!!
Kevin clocking his 5 year old nephew got me crying 😂😂😂
I don't drink due to aligning with what God wants me to do. I wasn't an alcoholic but I just wanted to be clear and sober minded. Now when people come to my house they are free to drink with no convictions. I have liquor in my house.
Damn right Kev don't feel bad for being a adult
Religion vs Relationship. Great and insightful conversation. Tfs
Love when the Christians recognize how the whole looks from the outside
Love Angel's hair
This was a good episode and it gave me a lot to think about
The Bible speaks to walking in the counsel of the ungodly however, it also encourages us to help those who do wrong.
Life should not change your beliefs. The Bible is our way to understanding Christ and faith is believing in his word and not leaning on our own understanding
Angelllll... from to leaving us with a word 🙌🏾🙌🏾 Love it💛💛
Watched the first two episodes of fight girl and i absolutely love it 😍 congrats auntie Angel 😘 and uncle Tony !!!
Yooo Invincible Fight Girl is a dope show Congrats Angel
Saving this as one of my favs. Thank you
Y'all spoke to ma heart on tuhday. Hondeyobosha.
I been deconstructin for years and it feels good to hear black folk lift they head up from the flock.
Really enjoyed this episode
The Expectation To Be Perfect Is What It is & When You Finally Let It Go..They Get Mad .But You Feel So Much Better Don't Ask Me How I Know..Cause I Know
1:27:32 lmaoooo went to look up the tweet on my own Accord and 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you had to be moving fast af to miss that
What Angel said about voting in person... is why they see me at EVERY primary and general election. 💁🏾♀️
Honestly I’m glad there’s technology now to see how narrow the path truly is. We can call ourselves Christians all day long but by their fruits you will know them. “God knows my heart.” But does He know you? I pray not just Kev and Angel but other Christians really seek first the Kingdom of God. We have to hold ourselves accountable
OMG congrats angel!! i wanted to see invincible fight girl but now i GOTTA see it! thats so cool!!
Came here for the relief 🙌🏾
I love when you guys get serious! Because you really do speak the truth!❤
Y’all did your good talking today! I love this podcast and today’s episode re-solidified it for me #Deconstructed but not #Denounced
This episode is EXCELLENT!
I love y’all down. I’m late but this is on time.
Whewwwwwww!! Yall talking good!!
Angels optimism is very inspiring so thank you so much
Patreon member here because some parts of the live audio was messed up!
Had to stop and go listen to to Tomorrow!!!
Tomorrow is my jam to this DAY ❤❤❤🥲🥲🥲
Well this has been THEE nostalgic episode! The 'Tomorrow' of it all (performed that with my class at the school Spring Festival of '90), Limewire/Kazaa/Bearshare (set the home PC ablaze summer of '98), 'Ask Jeeves' (I loved that cute butler icon, Google who?), 'Mavis Beacon' (Office Procedures class '96-'98), no 'Blockbuster' on the islands, but we did have 'Super Video' and 'Juggies Video' for the good ole rentals back in the 80s/90s'/00s. Good times!📼💿🖥💽
This was nothing but a word today!!!
What an awesome episode.❤
Loving Churchy, you Kev!! Drank that cuz Jesus turned water into wine and let it flow. Love this Unruly Cousins pod!!!❤❤❤ We all have to work on our relationship with the Lord,Kev said it,Amen.
Now they talking that talk now. Great conversation.
I've always felt this way about having a drink. It's a drink, like soda or tea or everything else. It's what you make it. Occasionally (maybe once a month) I have a glass of wine on my porch with my husband. It's our in house date night. Then we go to bed. That's it. No harm, no fight, the kids are sleep. It's just something we do. As long as it stays that, I don't feel otherwise convicted.
“You keep living, you don’t know what you might do”
I'm a Buddhist and I've been a supporter since I came across y'all. Yeah I grew up Christian, cut it after I was an adult
I just talked about the Christian bubble and how there is such a small square of communal sameness and pressure and shaming. Exposure to others is really important.