Cat5e vs Cat6: Overview and Comparison

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  • @jess2690
    @jess2690 29 днів тому +1

    Was curious about the differences, thank you for going above and beyond!

  • @ProjectFrugal
    @ProjectFrugal 6 місяців тому +7

    I drilled down through the floor/carpet years ago and purchased a large reel of Cat5e to wire up the house to a centralized location running a 24 port gigabit switch. Put some double ended female connectors on the ends of the cable (after crimping on the RJ45's) for the termination points rather than proper wall plates (I'm no electrician or cable guy). It's not pretty but it's given me 1GB throughout the house at a low cost. Good to know the differences between the types. I had one cable under the house which was Cat5 which runs only at 100MB - I now know why! :)

    • @trueCABLE
      @trueCABLE  6 місяців тому +2

      Hello, and thanks for your comment! We are glad the content helped connect the dots concerning performance and termination quality. Please let us know if you have any further questions!

    • @tannguyentrong509
      @tannguyentrong509 Місяць тому

      If house have mouse cat 5 cat 5e will die 😂😂

  • @davidschnabel9164
    @davidschnabel9164 Рік тому +3

    Thank you for explaining the difference.

  • @christheother9088
    @christheother9088 3 місяці тому +3

    Lean and mean. Thanks.

    • @trueCABLE
      @trueCABLE  3 місяці тому

      That's what we are here for! Thanks for watching!

  • @sfgwl
    @sfgwl Рік тому +3

    Edit: *** Picked up Northern Cat 5e riser specification sheet indicates 0.195"(4.95mm)OD, so 68.8% full. Also, forgot to add to earlier comment. I noticed your website with that 3/4” minimum and was definitely aiming for utilizing 3/4” but corner trim/edge bottlenecks to an ~1" brief narrow allowance between the section of 2" wide void access between houses and the wide open exterior and made the 1/2" option the only solution as I'm avoiding making any holes with this method. I can definitely see logic to requiring 3/4" minimum if traditional pulling method greater than 10' at a time are utilized. I further researched and found 3/4” to be the requirement in publicly available PDFs for some universities in their telecom/data policies and procedures. I couldn't find the rational but best guess it's a jacket integrity issue. Is that 3/4” minimum primarily for protecting jacket integrity in a normal long pull technique? Off record could you see/guesstimate someone getting by with 1/2" if pulling a 10' stick by stick slowly but surely?
    Any idea how Northern plenum(0.175in OD) and Southwire(0.185in OD) are within a reasonable 6% of each other, but for riser Northern(0.195in OD) and Southwire (0.244in OD) are a massive 21% apart?***
    Installing POE Swann cameras. The Swann system included 60' 2 pair "Ethernet"(4 conductor-2 orange [on pins 1 and 2], 2 green [on 3 and 6]) and pins 4,5,7,8 are not utilized. The lengths were inadequate and actually made test fitting deceptive because it's not real Ethernet and icing on the cake is no Cat/AWG/any identification on jacket(Swann claims Cat5e) they're blank; I've tested and the cables seem to work properly with the cameras but I've decided/been forced to use Cat5e plenum 4.7mm(0.185in) OD specifically based on calculator showing ability to fit 7 in a single 1/2"(15.875mm) EMT [using Engineering Toolbox-calculate how many smaller circles fit in a larger circle] and of course to achieve the necessary lengths. Hopefully it fits in practice and not just on a calculator which indicates 8 smaller 4.699mm circles at 70% full and best estimation of of 66.5% full with 7 runs in the same 1/2” EMT. I would've preferred the lesser price of riser cable measuring 6.198mm(0.244in) OD but calculations appears to only allow for 4 runs at 60% full. Prior to this I took Ethernet/data cable for granted, but now I see the POE camera market will stick cheap inadequate length cables to really make the consumer self installer to really think their install thoroughly and require way too much Internet searching. I was also considering difficult to obtain 1000' Cat5e non-riser CM/CMG with OD 5.08mm and the calculator indicates 7 smaller 5.08mm circles at 71.7% full with 7 runs in the same 1/2” EMT. The most outdoor exposure would in an alley without any direct rain between 2 "attached"[attached roofing material-otherwise 2" gap]houses but in the winter the alley can get down to 50⁰ F so that may be a point against as I understand it's for indoor use only; but as I understand it, "indoor" mostly refers to UV exposure and direct rain exposure which are not the case of this alley. Any advice/ideas on CMP plenum vs CM/CMG non-riser? Would one be a better option for a 90⁰ LB conduit body[as opposed to a 90⁰ radius bend]?
    *Of note the included Swann Ethernet cables were tightly wound in best described as 0⁰ folds and I've actually tested one that is mostly still tightly wound up and appears to be functioning properly. Is Power over Ethernet more tolerant of severe folds in the runs?

    • @trueCABLE
      @trueCABLE  Рік тому

      Hi! Thanks for your comment!
      With reference to your patch cables, ANSI/TIA states that patch cords do NOT need to have Category ratings stamped on their jacket. That is a requirement reserved for solid copper. It is not uncommon for an Ethernet channel to consist of only two wire pairs, but those installations usually top out at 100Mbps.
      With respect to conduit size and fill ratio, current standards call for initial fill ratio of 30%, with a maximum ratio of 40%. The number of cables allowed is equal to the cross-sectional area of the conduit, multiplied times the fill ratio (0.30 or 0.40), divided by the cross-sectional area of the cable. The cross-sectional area is calculated using ℼ × d²/4.
      In case that seems a little cumbersome, we have prepared a fill chart for various trade sizes of conduit and different diameters of cable. It can be found in our Cable Academy blog article, "Conduit Fill Chart for Ethernet and Coaxial Cable." www.truecable.com/blogs/cable-academy/conduit-fill-chart-for-ethernet-and-coaxial-cable .You will note that size 1/2 is not included in the chart. This is because if the conduit contains bends, not even a single Ethernet cable is likely to make it through without damage. Our fill chart starts at size 3/4, even though BICSI recommends a minimum trade size of 1 for all ICT installations.

  • @chacemcdoulett7765
    @chacemcdoulett7765 8 місяців тому +2

    Just because a cable has a spline does not mean that it is CAT6, some CAT6 and CAT-5E can both have a spline

    • @trueCABLE
      @trueCABLE  8 місяців тому +2

      Hello Chace. You are absolutely correct. Per the ANSI/TIA 568-2.D standard, there is no requirement for a spline to be present in any Category of cable. It is a design decision taken by the manufacturer in order to reach the Category performance desired. What defines an Ethernet cable is, ultimately, the Category performance it achieves. As long as the overall design limitations of the standard are followed (maximum overall diameter, number of conductors, maximum conductor insulation diameter, etc.), then it meets the standard. I was giving a dissertation on the differences between various types of trueCABLE brand Ethernet cable. None of our Cat5e features a spline, whereas ALL of our Cat6 and Cat6A do. Generally speaking, this is how most (but not all) Ethernet copper twisted pair Category cables are manufactured. And you are correct in that Cat5e can have a spline, too; it is rare, but it can.

  • @bryantfloyd7471
    @bryantfloyd7471 10 днів тому +1

    I've only ever been able to find Cat6 using 24awg and not 23awg.

    • @trueCABLE
      @trueCABLE  9 днів тому

      Hello! When talking about solid copper Cat6, it is normally seen in 23AWG but can (per the standard) be 22 to 24AWG as the standard does not dictate what Category must use what gauge of solid copper conductor. Now, stranded copper conductors are typically seen in 24 to 28AWG, and I would expect Cat6 stranded copper conductor cable designed to be used to make patch cords to be 24AWG or thinner.

  • @martinlaak
    @martinlaak Рік тому +1

    Thanx! Got good info from it.

  • @larrylupe
    @larrylupe 5 місяців тому +2

    I purchased cat6 riser/patch cable from HD and it didn't have center spline....

    • @trueCABLE
      @trueCABLE  5 місяців тому +1

      Hello Larry! Stranded copper patch cords often do not possess a spline (but some do). Many have individually foil shielded pairs. This is to maintain flexibility, but trades off performance over distance. Hope this helps!

  • @Dejayyy96
    @Dejayyy96 Місяць тому +1

    Why do most places say cat 6 is 1gb and also why do my cat6 bulk cable spools not have a spline or rip cord?

    • @trueCABLE
      @trueCABLE  28 днів тому

      Hello and VERY good questions. The reason why most places say "1Gbps" for Cat6 is due to the fact that Ethernet switches in the past were either 1Gbps or 10Gbps. There was no NBASE-T protocol that allows 2.5Gbps or 5Gbps. When these newer application speeds were introduced, it turns out that Cat6 actually supports 5Gbps up to 328 feet. In fact, Cat6 can support 10Gbps @ 165ft or less, depending upon conditions, but that is a different discussion. As far as lack of spline or rip cord: There is nothing in the TIA standard that says you have to have either one. The standard mandates that there be 8 insulated conductors, solid copper 22 to 24AWG, twisted into four color coded pairs. These color coded pairs must be in a plastic jacket. The performance of the cable must match the Category stamped on the outside of the jacket. There is a limit to the thickness of the cable overall--9.00mm and a limit on the thickness of insulated conductors--1.53mm. Aside from that, it is up to the manufacturer to decide how to construct the cable to achieve the stated Category performance. Notice there is no requirement I listed for a spline or ripcord. A ripcord is provided as convenience by most, but not all, manufacturers. A spline is used by most, but not all, manufacturers to achieving speeds beyond 1Gbps. Advances in manufacturing techniques are negating splines, however. I hope that helps!

    • @Dejayyy96
      @Dejayyy96 27 днів тому

      @@trueCABLE thank you, that was very informative!

  • @siamhossain-ebu
    @siamhossain-ebu Місяць тому +1

    Can I use 70 metre cat 6 cable for connecting two routers?

    • @trueCABLE
      @trueCABLE  Місяць тому

      Hello! Absolutely, yes. 70M is within the maximum distance that Ethernet can be run. Keep in mind that your particular maximum may be a bit less depending on ambient temperatures due to the environment in which your cable is installed. All of the maximums given are at 68 deg F or 20 deg C.

  • @cwd31768
    @cwd31768 7 місяців тому

    As an engineer, I would like to know the exact electrical characteristic requirements for these cables, like Ohm per ft, so that I can test it with the voltmeter on the spot without expensive equipment.

    • @trueCABLE
      @trueCABLE  7 місяців тому +1

      Hello! That would be nice! However, reality will demonstrate In order to properly test (Certify/Qualify) Ethernet cable drops will require far more than a volt meter. If you take a peek inside the ANSI/TIA 568-2.D standard, there are literally hundreds of pages dictating how any one certain Category of cable should behave, expressed in logarithmic equations, providing metrics measured in dB. You won't get that kind of data out of a simple volt meter. Hence, we have expensive Certification devices to throw thousands of equations/measurements at the cable under test for us and provide a simple PASS or FAIL result, which it does in under 10 seconds.

  • @Eric-qx1kx
    @Eric-qx1kx Рік тому +2

    True Cable Cat5e is tested up to 350 MHz, would it not theoretically provide better performance than a cheaper brand of Cat6 cable that was only tested to the 250 MHz minimum?? Seems like your Cat5e would have a little bit more headroom.

    • @trueCABLE
      @trueCABLE  Рік тому +6

      Hello Eric! Good eye and great question. Theoretically speaking, one would think so but that is not how it works. The additional testing up to 350 MHz is for quality control reference as opposed to achieving higher Category performance in a real world installation. The Permanent Link test limits for Cat5e and Cat6 also differ from each other, so the headroom values from the Category tests will not be comparable. Apples and oranges. So why do we advertise higher than Category-required bandwidths at all you might ask? NBASE-T is the short answer. The idea of over-building the cables is to achieve, and guarantee, NBASE-T speeds. A little known thing about NBASE-T is that it requires 156 MHz to operate at 2.5Gb/s and 312 MHz to operate at 5Gb/s. Lesser quality cables/terminations may not reliably achieve the NBASE-T speeds at full distance, even if Category compliant! Our Cat5e is guaranteed to achieve 2.5Gb/s (when used with quality termination hardware like component rated keystones) at the full Permanent Link length of 295ft. A similar situation applies to our Cat6. It is reference/quality tested in the factory to 550 MHz. When combined with our component rated keystones in a permanent link it is guaranteed to achieve 5Gb/s at the full 295ft.

    • @Eric-qx1kx
      @Eric-qx1kx Рік тому

      @@trueCABLE Before NBASE-T came out, there were a few companies selling 350 MHz tested Cat5e and others selling a cheaper 100MHz cable. A lot of people thought that was a gimmick, why pay more for 350MHz rated cable when the TIA Cat5e standards test only requires a 100MHz sweep.
      Then NBASE-T came out and all those folks who spent the extra $$$ to get the 350MHz cable got to take advantage of the new applications.
      We could see something similar in the future IMO. Something may come along and bridge the gap between 10GBASE-T and 40GBASE-T, just as NBASE-T bridged the gap between Gigabit ethernet and 10GBASE-T.
      That's why I would only put in a 750 MHz tested Cat6a like True Cable, if 25GBASE-T comes along in the future, you have a better chance getting it with True Cable Cat6a vs a little bit cheaper Cat6a that's only 500MHz or 550MHz, without the additional cost of putting in Cat8.

    • @trueCABLE
      @trueCABLE  Рік тому

      @@Eric-qx1kx Hello again Eric! Precisely. You hit the nail on the head.

  • @albin4323
    @albin4323 8 місяців тому +1

    It can be just placebo but already cat 6 feels way faster than my old cat 5:e despite paying for 100mbit/s which booth cables more than enough support, my old one were from 2004 which i changed today.

    • @trueCABLE
      @trueCABLE  8 місяців тому

      Hey Albin! It could be just a placebo, or something could have been wrong with the old Cat5e Ethernet cable too.

    • @emsayonachi9300
      @emsayonachi9300 4 місяці тому

      I got 10feet cat5e cable which is telco issued from around year 2005/2006.
      I tested it on my network recently and found that it can only get upto 110mbps and doesn't fully utilize my subscription speed.
      I swapped it with a cheap 10ft cat6 cable and was able to get upto 400mbps which is my isp subscription limit. I think it can support past that.
      therefore it's not placebo,
      cat5e back then really sucks 🙂👍

    • @albin4323
      @albin4323 4 місяці тому

      @@emsayonachi9300 Interesting to hear about thanks for sharing👍.

  • @Sam-zw2kp
    @Sam-zw2kp 9 місяців тому +2

    its 1Gbit at 328feet, not 5Gbit

    • @trueCABLE
      @trueCABLE  9 місяців тому

      Hey there! Cat5e cable can transmit 2.5Gbps Ethernet to 328 feet. Cat6 cable can transmit 5Gbps Ethernet to 328 feet. Hope this helps and please let us know if you have further questions!

    • @Sam-zw2kp
      @Sam-zw2kp 9 місяців тому

      ​@@trueCABLEwhere do you get this information from? Because on every website that I can find it says Cat6 is rated for 1Gbit on 328 feet.

    • @trueCABLE
      @trueCABLE  9 місяців тому +1

      @@Sam-zw2kp At this time, Cat5e can operate 2.5GBASE-T at up to 328feet, Cat6 can handle 5GBASE-T at up to 328feet and 10GBASE-T at up to 165feet. Cat6A can operate 10GBASE-T at up to 328feet. We get our information by staying current with developments from The Ethernet Alliance, BICSI, and the ANSI/TIA set of standards. The problem with getting this information from many websites is that the standards have changed over time, and many websites are not updated to the current standards.

  • @paolorosettani
    @paolorosettani 2 роки тому +1

    What's the IEEE norm number where it's written the famous "half inch specification" for crimping rj45 ?

    • @trueCABLE
      @trueCABLE  2 роки тому +1

      Hello Paolo! I cannot speak for IEEE, but 1/2" untwist or tighter is the maximum distance as specified by ANSI/TIA 568.2-D (found in a few spots throughout the series of documents). Also, the 1/2" untwist applies to ALL terminations, not just 8P8C "RJ45" plugs. Hope this helps!

  • @Henry_Jones
    @Henry_Jones 2 роки тому +5

    I have my box of cat6 and dont use 5e anymore.

    • @trueCABLE
      @trueCABLE  2 роки тому +5

      Hello Henry! Fair enough. Cat6 does more anyway, but if price is the overriding concern and you never see yourself going past 2.5G, then Cat5e is still a low-cost viable option.

    • @Henry_Jones
      @Henry_Jones 2 роки тому +1

      @@trueCABLE Im not a cabler though. Im a home user like me Ill be suprised if I end up using all 1000'.

  • @alro7779
    @alro7779 Рік тому +1

    Do physical differences between CAT5e and CAT6, apart from the one you just mentioned, also have to do with the twisted portion per inch that each twisted pair has, right? The more twisted the portion is, the better; related to minimizing crosstalk.

    • @trueCABLE
      @trueCABLE  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for your question. The number of twists per inch CAN be part of the differences, yes. That said, there are ways to achieve higher Category performance that don't necessarily focus on twists per inch. Individually shielded pairs is another potential factor. So is copper gauge and insulated conductor diameter. It is all a balancing act when producing Ethernet cable to achieve performance that complies to a certain Category. This is why the standard does not dictate exactly how to manufacture Ethernet cable to achieve Category performance other than some edge parameters that any manufacturer must comply with to meet the standard (number of conductors, maximum overall diameters, etc.).

    • @alro7779
      @alro7779 Рік тому +1

      @@trueCABLE Thank you for all that info, Sr. Cabling is an interesting field to study.

  • @Mohamed-gj7xd
    @Mohamed-gj7xd 3 місяці тому +1

    Which one is better for the ps5 slim?

    • @trueCABLE
      @trueCABLE  3 місяці тому +1

      Hello! Considering the PS5 communicates at 1G maximum on the wired port, either one will be fine. Cat5e can support 2.5 Gbps and Cat6 can support 5 Gbps (both to 328 feet).

    • @Mohamed-gj7xd
      @Mohamed-gj7xd 3 місяці тому

      @@trueCABLE thanks!

  • @cooper5834
    @cooper5834 2 роки тому

    What’s better for short distances and it’s not going to go through a wall

    • @trueCABLE
      @trueCABLE  2 роки тому

      Hello Cooper. I would defer to Cat6.

  • @gospromode
    @gospromode 10 місяців тому +1

    get a better mic or get the mic closer to you. it will reduce the eco too.

    • @trueCABLE
      @trueCABLE  10 місяців тому

      Hello! We apologize for the sound; if you check out our more recent content, we made that very update!

  • @leathercheerio1
    @leathercheerio1 Рік тому +1

    Not all cat 6 has a spline. How is it cat 6 then

    • @trueCABLE
      @trueCABLE  Рік тому +4

      Hello! That is correct. Not all Cat6 has a spline. Category 6 is a performance specification, not a construction specification. The manufacturer is responsible for the design details of Ethernet cable within some limited minimum/maximum physical constraints as outlined in ANSI/TIA 568.2-D. It is common to see splines in Cat6 Ethernet cable since this is the easiest way of meeting the tighter internal cross-talk requirements for Category 6, but some manufacturers use other construction techniques to meet the same performance requirement. Thicker conductor insulation and individually shielded pairs are just two such ways of accomplishing this without a spline, among others.

    • @leathercheerio1
      @leathercheerio1 Рік тому +1

      @@trueCABLE ahh.. thank you. I have been enlightened.

    • @trueCABLE
      @trueCABLE  Рік тому

      @@leathercheerio1 You know we got your back!

  • @yuzainizain5061
    @yuzainizain5061 Рік тому +1

    Quiet down the cable?? Whats that??

    • @trueCABLE
      @trueCABLE  Рік тому

      Hello! In the context of what I was referring to at the time (internal cable NEXT or cross-talk) "quiet down the cable" means to dampen EMI and therefore pair to pair interference!

  • @franciscomorales8102
    @franciscomorales8102 Рік тому

    Trying to install LAN in a few rooms on my house..
    Was thinking on using the router provided by my internet provider to feed those ports on each room.
    Can it be done?
    Should I use cat 5e or 6?
    Would I need to run the feed trough some sour of switch?

    • @trueCABLE
      @trueCABLE  Рік тому +1

      Hello Francisco. Absolutely you can use the switch on the back of your ISP supplied router. You can also use a patch cord to join the switch on the back of the router to another switch to increase the number of available Ethernet ports and therefore runs. I suggest Cat6 as a minimum these days. ISP speeds are getting faster and faster and eventually you may need the additional available speed.

  • @Kenporsta
    @Kenporsta 8 місяців тому +1

    An Xbox series s cat5e

    • @trueCABLE
      @trueCABLE  8 місяців тому +1

      Hello Erick. Using Cat5e for our XBox would be perfectly fine. The XBox Ethernet port is rated to 1 Gbps, and Cat5e can achieve 2.5 Gbps.