The semco kit that requires mixing? Grey stuff that’s known as B1/4 and B1/2 depending on drying time? If it’s the same stuff I’m thinking of, it’s tough as hell.
Hi had an issue with one of those drains about 10 years ago. Changed the whole thing twice and it started leaking again. I finally discovered that the hot water was softening the fiber glass of the shower base and when someone was in the shower, walking on the drain, the weight was enough to make the pipe shift on the side a bit creating an opening around the drain assembly. After being tired to patch the kitchen ceiling sheetrock every year, I finally ripped the entire shower installed a new one, higher quality and secured the new trap and piping thightly on the joists with metal strapping. Like you say, I gave her the ol' gundy and mama was freakin' happy after that.
Isnt it called vermiculite? I did that under my fiberglass Kohler tub, from end to end..and this guys pipe just hanging no supports, tub is flexing. oy vay
I am putting in shower pan with same kind of drain i thought all the sealing was from the plumbers putty on top i hope mine doesnt leak if rubber gasket does not make good seal to fiberglass. my pan says to set it in cement on floor for support so it does not flex with a small 5 inch hole for drain that one has nothing under it
i may be wrong but the "gaskets" have nothing to do with the leak path. I think they are there to safely distribute the load between the pipe and the shower base. Add 3/4 of an inch of teflon tape to the bottom of the male threads and apply a ton of Silicon caulk to the shower drain and the bottom of the flange. Add some caulk to the upper part of the threads too. No water can get to the "gaskets" now. Plumbers putty doesn't work well with Fiberglass. Lemeno if I an crazy please
I think the gasket could be on the secondary leak path if the putty under the flange fails. So you are right about applying silicon to the drain and bottom of flange, and no water can get to the gasket.
I use a Jack Rabbit strainer. It’s brass, spins on and has 4 machine screws to tighten up to the shower. Haven’t had one fail. Most times strainers leak from movement due to improperly supported bases
I took 3 4 inch square electric covers and taped them together, then cut in notches to fit were the thin tool they send would sit. Now it Cannot Drop down the drain and you can really twist ro tighten the drain. Works Great Next Level Steve
Love that mega lock, had many "happy endings" using the smurf jizz on 316 stainless pipe. Found no better pipe sealant for stainless pipe than mega lock, the blue block sucked along with ALL straight Teflon products. Except for EXPANDO, MEGA LOCK is the best for stainless piping. FYI I usually work with pipes between 3/4 to 3".
Looks like the problem could also be that thin walled pan has very little support beneath. Add a 150+ pound person taking a shower and that floor has gotta be bowing and flexing all over the place. Theres probably a constant shifting and wiggling of that drain. Eventually its going to fail again.
Give er the ole rtv momma. I'd also recommend a dremel. Smaller and easier to manipulate in small areas. I use that damn thing on wonky acrylic sinks and tub drains.
Did you get a callback? I used putty b4 and from the customer standing in the shower walking around it leaked again, then I used silicone and never been back for the shower strainer leaking again, been using silicone ever since.
Steve i freaking love your content my man..im a union plumber local 5 dc and i been in trade 7 years now on the verge of doing my own thing..your posts are so good and hilarious..your straight up do good freaking work dont rip nobody off and i like how u try to fix stuff before replacing..awesome steve..keep it up...GIVE HER THE OL GUNDY MOMMA..LOL...
Need some floor support also when stand in shower, The floor flexes due to the thin fiberglass shower floor. Couple 2x4 and wedges between the ply floor and shower floor.stop the flexing.
Putty is good , but in this case I've used silicone never had a call back ,30 years plus union trained commercial , residential, then repair no worries, keep up the good work Steve, your old school like me
@@markbarber1920 yes people don't realize that putty will fail in time, seen it first hand on kitchen sinks etc ,like the silicone on inaccessible ,second floor installs things like that
I was just thining about that job the other day, if you ever went back, we have 2 showers with the same type drain, hope I don't have to ever screw with them, but if I do I know how now, thanks ! When in doubt, cut it out !!!
I use silicone instead of putty. I have never had a leak after switching over. No more leaking sinks or tubs destroying my cabinets or ceilings in my apartments.
Miss Molly was giving you the stink eye at first. She said " hell no Daddy, I don't wanna leave my warm comfy couch ". But you changed her mind in the end !!! 😄😄😄😄
The silicone sealant doesn’t bond with the gasket plus the shower tray flexes when in use all you pipework ha no give the only place to flex is the drain fitting to the tray
I remember Holmes on Homes had a issue with a cracked tub. The builder had replaced it once. Mike noticed the homeowners were, uh large people. The solution was a higher grade tub that wouldn't crack from the weight. The standard builder grade wasn't sturdy enough.
@@rayvoorhies7180 i would definitely have the owner sign a waiver that I wouldn’t be responsible for any further leaks . Also you cant grind down fiberglass . Fiberglas gets its straight from the resin once you heat up the resin you Compromise the strength value .
I personally would be afraid to use a grinder as it's too easy to sand off too much, I would rather use rough sandpaper as your just trying to take off any stuck on sealent or old remaining gasket material
I use silicone and never have leaks, I use a strap wrench to hold the drain threads at bottom because the strap wrench you can put it over the threads without damaging the threads, while tightening the nut , I use silicone under drain flange, and under the rubber gasket
Not sure what brand pliers those are but the manufacturer should use you in their advertisement. Holy cow you gave them bad boys all the gundy and they took it!!!!
Put the Smurf Jisom on it ,Give it a how you doin And finish off with a Jed Clampett ,I need to get up to date on my plumbing terminology ,Great video
And don't forget "Give it the old Gundy".
Lucky thing you have access from the basement.
miss molly is a cute little girl she sure loves you love how plumbers install shower traps backwards i have seen it many times..
Miss Mollie looks like she wants to sit on the couch and eat bon bons.
3:56 Steve had his Wheaties...
I love Miss Molly, she’s so cute. Thanks for an excellent video ❤
Steven, On aircraft we use a caulk called PRC on fuel tanks it will seal anything!
The semco kit that requires mixing? Grey stuff that’s known as B1/4 and B1/2 depending on drying time? If it’s the same stuff I’m thinking of, it’s tough as hell.
Just a suggestion. I’ve had decent luck using 100% silicone underneath the rubber gasket and the topside flange piece.
That’s what I use 100% clear silicone I don’t have very good luck for a very long with plumbers putty
I. Love miss molly 🥰, best little assistant ever! I love watching your videos .. I love how professional you are... keep up the great work
Whoa mama Steve really found the Taj Mahal this time. Gold plated shower fixtures, good enough for this neighborhood
Steve you are Superman god bless you you job is gold medal 🥇
Great job Steven, just had one of those replaced. Hope the guys that did my work took as much care as you did. 👍
great video, I've had brand new tank bolts and rubber gaskets that just wouldnt seal till I used silicone. You do what works.
Hi had an issue with one of those drains about 10 years ago. Changed the whole thing twice and it started leaking again. I finally discovered that the hot water was softening the fiber glass of the shower base and when someone was in the shower, walking on the drain, the weight was enough to make the pipe shift on the side a bit creating an opening around the drain assembly. After being tired to patch the kitchen ceiling sheetrock every year, I finally ripped the entire shower installed a new one, higher quality and secured the new trap and piping thightly on the joists with metal strapping. Like you say, I gave her the ol' gundy and mama was freakin' happy after that.
Thanks for the tip. I hadn't been using enough Jism.
the floor pan needs more support , probably flexing with someone in the shower .
I was thinking the same thing. Don't they usually have a mud base...or a cement board base to support it?
Isnt it called vermiculite? I did that under my fiberglass Kohler tub, from end to end..and this guys pipe just hanging no supports, tub is flexing. oy vay
Yeah, we put cement under the shower pan, PITA to get it even for support but makes it nice and solid.
Someone heavy can definitely flex that fiberglass pan . Over time all the putty will fall out
its a one piece kolha shower very well made and expensive i stood in unit it did not move or give at drain at all
Steve, do you ever have a customer ask you. " who are you talking too?" 😂
all that money i have in the bank ....i have to talk to my self they say
You talk to yourself because you like dealing with a better class of people!
that old pliers,is amazing
Good repair, I like the Jed Clampett deal. Thanks Steve
Miss Molly looked like she wanted to hit the snooze button again 😂. She’s a cutie
Great Job Steve as Usual Brother.
I am putting in shower pan with same kind of drain i thought all the sealing was from the plumbers putty on top i hope mine doesnt leak if rubber gasket does not make good seal to fiberglass. my pan says to set it in cement on floor for support so it does not flex with a small 5 inch hole for drain that one has nothing under it
Steven's Smurfin again ya'll! I remember this shower. Thanks for posting!
i may be wrong but the "gaskets" have nothing to do with the leak path. I think they are there to safely distribute the load between the pipe and the shower base. Add 3/4 of an inch of teflon tape to the bottom of the male threads and apply a ton of Silicon caulk to the shower drain and the bottom of the flange. Add some caulk to the upper part of the threads too. No water can get to the "gaskets" now. Plumbers putty doesn't work well with Fiberglass. Lemeno if I an crazy please
I think the gasket could be on the secondary leak path if the putty under the flange fails. So you are right about applying silicon to the drain and bottom of flange, and no water can get to the gasket.
Is the puddy better then silicone?
i believe it is yes .putty will not get moldy and is easy to remove and clean up . silicone kinda makes a mess and is nasty to work with .
Your dog really help your video!!! Great Video!
miss molly is the cuties dog ever .
I use a Jack Rabbit strainer. It’s brass, spins on and has 4 machine screws to tighten up to the shower. Haven’t had one fail. Most times strainers leak from movement due to improperly supported bases
I took 3 4 inch square electric covers and taped them together, then cut in notches to fit were the thin tool they send would sit. Now it Cannot Drop down the drain and you can really twist ro tighten the drain. Works Great Next Level Steve
I use only pipe gasket lubrication on shower strainers... I’m young plumber pipe dope drys out and eventually leaks learned on sink pop ups lol!
Have a co worker that uses it on everything! I don’t agree 😂
Why does the drain pipe go on the inside of the fitting? Seems to me it
Miss Molly is working again mama next level
The brass oatey strainers work well for me better than pvc. And I dont have to have open ceilings to install a pan
Love that mega lock, had many "happy endings" using the smurf jizz on 316 stainless pipe. Found no better pipe sealant for stainless pipe than mega lock, the blue block sucked along with ALL straight Teflon products. Except for EXPANDO, MEGA LOCK is the best for stainless piping. FYI I usually work with pipes between 3/4 to 3".
Great job and video like always Steven
Looks like the problem could also be that thin walled pan has very little support beneath. Add a 150+ pound person taking a shower and that floor has gotta be bowing and flexing all over the place. Theres probably a constant shifting and wiggling of that drain. Eventually its going to fail again.
You have a Very good point!
Give er the ole rtv momma. I'd also recommend a dremel. Smaller and easier to manipulate in small areas. I use that damn thing on wonky acrylic sinks and tub drains.
Did you get a callback? I used putty b4 and from the customer standing in the shower walking around it leaked again, then I used silicone and never been back for the shower strainer leaking again, been using silicone ever since.
Thank you for the tech tips
not putty but silicon caulk between flange and tub. under is a rubber gasket and a cardboard gasket then the nut.
Steve i freaking love your content my man..im a union plumber local 5 dc and i been in trade 7 years now on the verge of doing my own thing..your posts are so good and hilarious..your straight up do good freaking work dont rip nobody off and i like how u try to fix stuff before replacing..awesome steve..keep it up...GIVE HER THE OL GUNDY MOMMA..LOL...
From local 24 go into your Own business and control your Own fate.... Don't rely on their bs.... be well.
Another awesome job for some very nice people!
Need some floor support also when stand in shower, The floor flexes due to the thin fiberglass shower floor. Couple 2x4 and wedges between the ply floor and shower floor.stop the flexing.
I thought the same thing, may be over time flexing and flexing again the sealing loose its grip
Your commentary is the best, and seriously does make me laugh.. Thanks....
Pretty “Miss Molly “ ! Thank Heaven for “Jed”
If you ever have to repair the fiberglass it can be done with U-Pol fibral, it's is a great product ,easy to use!
Some fiberglass tubs tell you not to use putty and to instead use silicon.
Nobody ever said it was easy being cheesy, great video
Putty is good , but in this case I've used silicone never had a call back ,30 years plus union trained commercial , residential, then repair no worries, keep up the good work Steve, your old school like me
Silicone is the way to go for sure!
@@markbarber1920 yes people don't realize that putty will fail in time, seen it first hand on kitchen sinks etc ,like the silicone on inaccessible ,second floor installs things like that
I was just thining about that job the other day, if you ever went back, we have 2 showers with the same type drain, hope I don't have to ever screw with them, but if I do I know how now, thanks ! When in doubt, cut it out !!!
Smurf jisim?? You just broke the internet with that one.
he smurfed on it....
Very professional, I would say...furburger hair Stevie?...
LOL!
Great job once again!
Gargamel would like to know your location.
Good job 👏 I would have silicone it it last longer ✌️
Nice work
Did you glue that 45 onto the shower drain or it threads?
Had one like that, had to redo because of leak. Put another gasket on with plenty of dope on both sides and I got lucky, stopped the leak !!
This guy's the best just his language
Jism ? Wow. Classy
I use silicone instead of putty. I have never had a leak after switching over. No more leaking sinks or tubs destroying my cabinets or ceilings in my apartments.
Miss Molly was giving you the stink eye at first. She said " hell no Daddy, I don't wanna leave my warm comfy couch ". But you changed her mind in the end !!! 😄😄😄😄
What's the link to the tool to remove center piece
Silicone works much better than plumbers putty. It flexes better with the base
At least you had access.not like a 2nd floor..
Nice way to bend pliers Steve.
The silicone sealant doesn’t bond with the gasket plus the shower tray flexes when in use all you pipework ha no give the only place to flex is the drain fitting to the tray
Pro dope on the threads helps
I wonder if the fiberglass is flexing when the customer stands in the shower? That would break the seal. Steve's work may have fixed it..
Yep. Hardly no support from about 5" all around.
Right . I’m surprised it hasn’t crack where it’s been milled down .Good job.
I remember Holmes on Homes had a issue with a cracked tub. The builder had replaced it once. Mike noticed the homeowners were, uh large people. The solution was a higher grade tub that wouldn't crack from the weight. The standard builder grade wasn't sturdy enough.
@@rayvoorhies7180 i would definitely have the owner sign a waiver that I wouldn’t be responsible for any further leaks . Also you cant grind down fiberglass . Fiberglas gets its straight from the resin once you heat up the resin you Compromise the strength value .
it was leaking just running the water with no one in it .. its a kola unit very strong unit i stood it in it did not flex at all ..
Steven I absolutely love your vids as one who is not a master plumber Im impressed by your knowlwdge
I personally would be afraid to use a grinder as it's too easy to sand off too much, I would rather use rough sandpaper as your just trying to take off any stuck on sealent or old remaining gasket material
Nice fix Steven....
I love the voice l love the sound l just love everything about this video
Why is the bathtub pipes still leaking is there reason why or do you know it’s still leaking water
when the came out to get look it cutting out the middle line of the pipe quit leaking on the plumber
You need to put spray foam under the shower. It probably flexs when someone gets in shower to use it. So eventually it will leak again.
Couldn't you also shore it up with strapping? Just doesn't look like there's anything solid to tie it into here.
Which spray foam?
I use silicone and never have leaks, I use a strap wrench to hold the drain threads at bottom because the strap wrench you can put it over the threads without damaging the threads, while tightening the nut , I use silicone under drain flange, and under the rubber gasket
Why did he cut the pipe instead of just replacing the shower, drian?
Smurf Jism does the trick everytime lol 😂
Steve on the 2 inch shower drains put a mj clamp on drain below for weight in shower take care ted s plbg in ottawa Canada
i like that trick with the wire stripper..they make a tool for them drains i think its called a husky
Love the video Steven! Im a newbie here but what is the technical term for the Jed “Clamp-it” brace you used? Not having much luck finding one
Band clamp. Or banded Fernco coupling.
Steve, all it needed was a little hya doin! Good enough for this neighborhood.
Steve i am a home owner with galvanized water supply and drains. Why do you use PVC vs ABS? cost or is it a better product?
They really leak from the bottom? Never seen that but I believe it. Gonna buy a 4 1/2" flap disk tomorrow.
nice job...
Smurf Jism, hahahahaha 😆 🤣 😂
I use hylomar flange sealant on cars about like Steve uses pipe dope in plumbing. Hylomar might be suitable for this problem.
I didn’t think Steve was going to get Molly off of that warm comfortable couch. I guess that it wasn’t too cold today?
Pretty good job I'll guarantee you it won't leak now
set it like A big tile down mud base concrete then allow it to sit for a few hrs then trap it
You smooth out that drain with a flappa. Give ‘er the ol’ how ya doin’….
What is the brand of wire strippers you are using ?
what is the name of the blue paste?
mega lock pipe dope ..
@@stevenlavimoniere I really like your channel and you are awesome!
Hahahahaha, golden shower 🤣🤣🤣
Get that dust on ‘ya and itch for two days!
Smurf jisim - now I heard it all.
Nor cal refrigeration calls his blue vaccum hoses smurf boners 😂
Some times you have to take it all apart and start again 👍👍👍👍
The pipe dope may harden and decompose the rubber gasket in time. Seen it more than once.
Yeah id have put it on the threads not the gasket. Maybe water and soap on the gasket to let the nut slip easily.
Not sure what brand pliers those are but the manufacturer should use you in their advertisement. Holy cow you gave them bad boys all the gundy and they took it!!!!
i might pick on the sparkys from time to time but there tools stand the smell test . and the old gundy
Use 100 percent silicone! Works great!
Where's the beef? Smurf jizz on the board! Haha 😄 What's Mikey Pipes think of this 1?
Plumbers putty on top would be a quicker fix and not require cutting the pipe. The bottom is rough because that is not where the part seals
should also be another paper gasket
only one
Gawd,why did the previous plumbers do the cut out of the sub floor that large? Ridiculous........
Put a 2inch preper clamp teds plbg