Was the Sarcophagus in the Pyramid of Khafre Sabotaged?
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- Опубліковано 2 тра 2024
- The pyramid of Khafre contains many mysteries, despite being in the shadow of the Great Pyramid of Giza. When examining the sarcophagus in this pyramid, an enormous question is brought to light.
How on earth was this sarcophagus opened without destroying it?
The discrepancy between the security defenses of the pyramids of Khufu and Khafre are highly conspicuous, and further add to the intrigue of why certain decisions were made.
Did looters expertly attack Khafre’s coffer with unparalleled precision… or was something else afoot when the pharaoh was laid to rest?
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0:00 Intro
1:50 Pyramids as tombs?
2:48 Khafre sarcophagus
3:58 Tomb security
5:37 Sarcophagus design features
6:53 Copper pins cemented
7:35 Undamaged coffer
10:07 Battering the coffer
11:05 Conspiracy to plunder?
12:45 Solving a mystery
You continually address topics surrounding the mysteries of the pyramids in a way that no one else has before. Your combination of science, history and common sense produces extremely valuable content. I have been studying this subject for years yet while watching your presentations I am consistently having great new insights from your work, thank you.
Brilliant stuff! I knew nothing about this but I did lie in this sarcophagus as a teenager for about ten minutes with my eyes closed and my arms folded over my chest. When I opened my eyes a group of Japanese tourists were taking photos of me!
Thanks!
Ha ha awesome!
na, it lacks context that only few are aware of that suggest it has a more practical use. Could later generations have forgotten it's function and recreated the design to function as a tomb? Sure, even some Roman emperors did that! but it's bloody sure that those earliest build were never tombs.
@@stijnvdv2 Menkaure's pyramid was a tomb. Whether it was originally built for this, or repurposed by Menkaure, is another matter
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>Inside Djedkare Isesi’s pyramid substructure, remains of the burial have been found alongside the mummy remains of Djedkare Isesi himself.
>In its substructure excavators found fragments of a red granite sarcophagus and of Neferefre’s mummy, who was found to have died at around twenty to twenty-three years of age
>The provenance of a mummy fragment and fine linen wrappings found in the burial chamber are unknown, but are hypothesized to belong to Pepi I. Other components of burial equipment found in the chamber are: fragments of canopic vessels made from yellowish alabaster; a sandal made from reddish, possibly sycamore, wood; a small flint knife; some pleated linen; and a fragment of linen bearing the inscription "Linen for the king of Upper and Lower Egypt, may he live forever.[46]
>this mf believing they aren’t tombs
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Anytime I see a title with the words "Sabotaged...Stolen...Hidden...Disputed...Denied....Looted" I fully expect Zahi Abass Hawass to somehow be involved. His domineering behaviour, forbidding archaeologists to announce their own findings is unacceptable....and yet he's back in the position of which he was found guilty of wrong doing...was fired..and sentenced. I just don't understand why he's back.
He is of the political powers that be protecting the image of Egypt as not being derivative from an older civilization, which is obvious to everyone.
they set him down to keep an eye on something. He is a man of services. And it's not the Egyptian services
He’s probably back because of who he knows. The man’s a menace. Do you know the Giza plateau is the only archaeological site on earth where the security search you thoroughly on the WAY IN. I kid you not. Thoroughly searched in case you have a small camera or robot or drill or anything that might allow you to make a discovery that they don’t want known. I could understand it if they searched people in the way out, but not on the way in! That’s crazy!
@@BottleBri interesting
"Anytime I see a title with the words "Sabotaged...Stolen...Hidden...Disputed...Denied....Looted" I fully expect Zahi Abass Hawass to somehow be involved."
Oh of course - it's not like there haven't been at least half a dozen different civilisations that have occupied the territory between its construction and now that could have broken into it.......
The narrative against Hawass among pseudo archaeologists is even more laughable than the one about some world spanning Atlantean super civilisation pre dating the Younger Dryas.
As a frequent visitors of Egypt in the past, and still passionate by all the mysteries of this great civilisation I'm consistently impressed by the quality, cleverness and attention to details of your theories and videos! You would make a great archeologist, certainly better than most of those that I've crossed the path in the last forty years. Thank you for your time and dedication!
As others already pointed out, the resin might have directly contributed to corrosion of the pins, thus effectively turning it into chemical sabotage - either deliberate or by accident.
Here is another way how the resin could have aided sabotage: It does make sense to me that the workers would test the pins having locked the sarcophagus shut. Perhaps the resin was intended to "fake" this test not through chemical corrosion, but viscosity.
If the pins were relatively short, then right after having dropped they'd sit on top of the resin and keep the lid shut.
But after weeks or years they might sink deeper into the resin, and then unlock the lid again.
Of course, unlike the corrosion hypothesis, that is something that would require the lid to be pushed back into its fully closed position after the manipulated unlocking test, but a person who had the capability to put in the resin and also use short pins might have also been in a position to instruct the workers to just push it back all the way into its original closed position after the test, thus unjamming the pins and enabling them to exert their weight as pressure on the resin.
Unlikely. 1. the pins from copper or bronze would not be compromised sufficiently by any resin at room temperature. People still use resin today as a flux for soldering on copper. Never has any natural resin destroyed the copper afterwards. Even agressive formulations may destroy the solder or attack the copper surface, but it would never dissolve a copper or bronze pin. Doesn't make any sense already in terms of stochiometric ratio.
2. The resin will have had to sit deep enough to allow the pins to fall into the holes immediately. The priests would certainly have tested for intial locking.
3. Making the pins shorter than these shallow holes are deep would be idiotic.
@@testboga5991 The idea there is that the the pins are shorter than the holes are deep not by idiotic accident but as deliberate sabotage, with the resin "masking" the true depth of the hole that they can very slowly sink into and making them pass an initial locking test.
@@jenswurm So the builders wanted to heist the body? Lol
@@BenJover Not just the body, but likely the substantial amount of gold that it would have been buried with.
After all, why not? That tomb did get robbed, and apparently that sarcophagus got opened without substantial damage to it despite an locking mechanism in place. Inside job sabotage would explain how that could have been pulled off. If you have other theories that explain what may have happened, then i'm curious to hear them.
@@jenswurm My best guess is either they didn't build it very well or some grave robbers got lucky for how they went about finding it. Inside job seems like something we would make national treasure 3 out of so I'm down for it lol
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1. It looks like the damage from prying the lid off Khafre's coffer is on the stones that surround it rather than the lid itself. The height of the surrounding stones is very convenient for pushing the lid back. A pry bar placed between the surrounding blocks and coffer could have pushed the lid straight back without putting pressure on the sides of the coffer.
2. I think it's possible that the resin in the holes was intended to hold the metal pins up in the lid before it was slid into place. The lid was closed, then the lid was then heated from the outside to soften the resin to allow the pins to drop into place to lock the lid. The softened resin then flowed down into the lower holes with the pins, and, over time, completely drained into the lower holes. The sheared off metal pins were probably well glued into the holes by the resin, then pulled out of the holes by thieves, then the remaining resin (over many years) flowed all the way to the bottom of the lower holes where it was found.
Agreed to (2), but not to (1). I think We ought to keep a reality on the movement to open the lid, or sliding any heavy slab. Closing it would require a viscose liquid like a seaweed or oil, perhaps even lime putty, resin, a mixture of all... (think of a large pavement slab sliding on wet cement), just as much to open with a pry would be needed, as the pry bar would be bending under stress, its force would be counter-directional, potentially an explosive situation in the small area... Were talking about many levers forces at coordinated timing. In what is used to move the lid proposed here would be up because accurate side leverage would be limited by the walls. Travel direction will need to be very focused to not put additional pressure against the dove-tails. Ever opened an unevenly weighted timber window? It's a snagging nightmare. Not only would the pins be stopping the lid but micro versions of the pin in the form of tiny grains slipping in-between the tolerance would build up. As a stone rubs against a stone, the dents and recesses pick up small shards that shear off, which act as locks also. So taking the lid off, to my mind if lifted, would be to shear off the dove tails. But, what I see in the presentation here is the most forward edge at time stamp 9:00 doesnt look at all like a perfect dove tail, but looks more like a chamfer. If it were an intact dove-tail, it would look like a 'z'. So, with the 'z' gone from damage, tolerances grow, movement increases, substrates shift, and perhaps original mortar. To be airtight, a fine putty would be perfect for sealing. Maybe even resin...? Sometimes i think a poltis was used or even a moss/lichen - something perishable to aid sliding.
at 9:06, the drawing includes the pavement stone and inset in the walls. The latter would certainly help 'unweight' enough of the lid to enable an easy set up for moving aids.
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@J T Wow what a response! You definitely know what your talking about! So much intelligence in these comments! Thanks for sharing your insight!
It seems odd to me that they would design it for the lid to remain protruding from the floor, surely the best defence would have been to make the lid look like part of the floor. This would make it harder for robbers to identify which block was the lid and would also make it even harder for them to get any leverage to remove it
Don't forget, that these guys were maybe a bit more stupid than we are now. They could walk through fake doors they thought. What on earth was telling them such BS.
@@oupahens9219 they can't have been stupid, even thousands of years later we still can't figure out for certain how they managed to build the pyramids.
@@oupahens9219 they may have had other religious and cultural beliefs but that does not make them stupid. had you been alive then, you would almost certainly have believed the same things.
@@daos3300 Even today some people believe that these false doors cut into rock all over the world are functioning portals. I think, you just will hurt your head while trying to pass through, which would be rather stupid to try anyway. So, the reason, why these "doors" were designed by people was probably to try something, which they did not understand. Headbanging at finest.
With virtual reality and parallel worlds, you would be able to avoid headache though.
@@daos3300 If, yeah, if I would have been alive at that time, I would have carved false doors into rock faces and tombs, just for fun. See what I mean?
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Either:
- No pins were inserted.
- They were too short, or dropped too deep (not enough resin, or the receivers were bored too deep).
- Someone had a saw thin enough to get to them - this would probably rely on there being enough play in the connection of the dovetail to lift the lid slightly.
- It was never closed.
- It didn't fit very well in the first place. (this one seems unlikely)
I can't wait to get back there to go and poke around a bit.. :)
I wondered about a saw, as well.
Very good theories! It seems a bit of a mystery. The khafre pyramid when looked at in plan, just looks so suspiciously void of passages and rooms. All that masonry and nothing else in it except what they know? This pyramid has suffered severe neglect from investigation by the Egyptologists. I’d love to see a muon scan result of that one. Wouldn’t you think they would have said while you’re here with the equipment just do the khafre pyramid as well? Maybe that made too much sense to them. Even the great pyramid receives zero investigation any more from one decade to the next. Ten years without investigating anything in the great pyramid means nothing to the Egyptian authorities. There are numerous suspicious blocks etc which are well known areas where any normal human being would be greatly interested in investigating to see if there are as yet undiscovered passages / rooms and it would be world news if there were, but no. No interest. I’m only 51 but I find myself thinking I’ll actually die of old age before anyone investigates further. In 33 years of being interested in the great pyramid I’ve seen the shafts explored by robot, and a muon scam done. That’s it. It’s frustrating to say the least!
@@BottleBri They have no interest in blowing up the narrative they've been riding for the last 100+ years. I don't know why, because a flood of new discoveries could re-ignite the general interest that sparked 'Egyptomania'.
@@Gainn oh the new discoveries would be worldwide sensational news. Shame that those that CAN arrange investigations into the block next to the coffee in the kings chamber are not interested in the slightest when all it would take is a small drill and an endoscopic camera.
Or the pins were iron, and they rusted away.
Really appreciate your attention for details and the way you push a line of reasoning forward. I think you are really onto something and agree that the subject of this video deserves a full "crime scene investigation" for indeed, it is very remarkable, that despite its awesome security features, the koffer is still in such a prestine shape. Whomever first opened must have had detailed insight into its design; a random gang of grave robbers could not possibly have opened the lid this neatly.
Pretty simple coffer after constructing a structure so magnificent…the finish on the inside is quite crude for royalty. I’ve seen it, touched it, and sat inside it. I’m not convinced Khafre was ever in it.
Crude compared to later efforts, but thats it - methods refined over time and this was still just the 4th dynasty.
Also you are not looking at the original work piece but that which has been damaged by tomb raiders since then.
@@mnomadvfx Christopher Dunn’s theory sounds a lot more plausible to me.
I am somewhat convinced that he was buried there. You call it crude but you have to think about that it is in a pyramid. I don’t think you can get buried in a place less crude than a pyramid.
@@mnomadvfx LOL, so why does the construction of the Great Pyramid so greatly eclipse later efforts? Se see a steady decline in later efforts
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Maybe in scale, but that was probably considered too cumbersome and unnecessary for a funerary monument like this.
In terms of interior decoration and overall design you see a great deal of improvement in later pyramids, even if on the surface they aren't as big.
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Very thought provoking analysis! Well done. Keep on doing what you do, sir.
Always thought khafre succeeded in hiding his body for the afterlife . His pyramid seems too big for only these small corridor and chamber.
With your amazing presentation, it really seems like this sarcophagus was only a bait for robbers. His body is surely still sleeping somewhere inside the structure.
there is so much that stinks about the notion that they were tombs... first off Egyptologists tell you that they build it in 20 years... aside from it being mathematically impossible (having to lay 1 brick every 3 minutes) you're gonna tell me that we did 200 years about cathedrals, yet they stamped pyramids out of the ground like it was nothing? We couldn't even recreate this with our modern construction techniques... 2nd... they all have coffins... even the so called unfinished ones and they were sealed up; yet nothing found inside except for a black glue on the walls of the coffins.... they are even found in structures that aren't pyramids to begin with (the Osiris shaft, the serepeum of saquarra etc. etc.) with it comes that none of the real pyramids have any glyphs, suggesting that they aren't made by the same people as the dynastic Egyptians. On top of that, how convenient is the explanation that 'they were looted by robbers'; even those that were completely sealed up, where no evidence of any disturbance has been found... or maybe, they just were not tombs!!! I personally think they have had a more practical use in producing some highly sought after product... probably something that involved fermentation or fertilization that would either store food much longer then it naturally would or it would produce something that increased agricultural output and thus was very valuable to produce. Particularly because some of these coffins are waaaay too big for any body to house (and the artifacts found within don't make sense with just a burial) like the Serepeum of Saquara or the box beneath Djoser's pyramid.... they wouldn't make any sense for burial. Would the later generations forgot it's original use and used some of them as tombs...probably, but it's clear that it wasn't their original purpose.
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_"Egyptologists tell you that they build it in 20 years... aside from it being mathematically impossible (having to lay 1 brick every 3 minutes) you're gonna tell me that we did 200 years about cathedrals, yet they stamped pyramids out of the ground like it was nothing? "_
Cathedrals were built by relatively small teams over a long time though, whereas in ancient Egypt there was a huge supply of spare manpower during the Nile flooding season. It does make sense that tens of thousands of farmers had to be kept busy during this time, else they'd get funny ideas.
With a few ten thousand hardened and highly motivated workers one can get a lot done.
@@jenswurm ah yes the argument that the BBC docu's used coz of their failed attempt of even carving as much as the nose of the Sphinx with copper tools. 'They just had an extreme large workforce'.... or just maybe they weren't tombs, havnt been build by the Dynastic Egyptians. Not even by 1 generation, but many over a large period of time which is clearly visible from the granite casing on the temple of the Sphinx that perfectly formed on the erotion of the limestone blocks behind it.
@@stijnvdv2 _" ah yes the argument that the BBC docu's used coz of their failed attempt of even carving as much as the nose of the Sphinx with copper tools"_
-> I haven't seen that one, but i saw a documentary in which experimental archeologists were capable of sawing and drilling granite with copper saws at a rate of 1cm per hour, using an abrasive rock dust paste in addition to the copper saw.
They also were *very* effective at quarrying limestone. The key there was to simply wetten the limestone, that made it a lot more workable.
_"or just maybe they weren't tombs, havnt been build by the Dynastic Egyptians. Not even by 1 generation, but many over a large period of time"_
-> Sure, they were more than just tombs, but also temple complexes. Cutting the blocks however is something that can be done in parallel, so i don't see how that is supposed to be impossible.
_"but many over a large period of time which is clearly visible from the granite casing on the temple of the Sphinx that perfectly formed on the erotion of the limestone blocks behind it."_
.> I'm not sure what you're referring to there. However, there is a strong argument for the Sphinx having been built during Dynastic times: We know what happened to the rocks that were cut to make the pit that the Sphinx is in. They were used to build a nearby temple, which can be attributed to Khafra.
@@stijnvdv2 I imagine a regional change in humanity. They were having great success and the population boomed. You end up with half a million able bodied humans but a pre-society infrastructure. What would a good leader do with them? People needed to be kept busy, and have something eat and drink. They needed to live. Their lives were not like ours. Not remotely. They didn't do this on a hobby scale or after their part time day job at McD's. People lived their entire lives on this project. They had no technology. They were hauling stones while we clatter keyboards.
YOU couldn't do it. Get behind the women and children and let us who are grounded in reality create the world you can't imagine. That foil hat song you sing hasn't had an update in many years. Why do you suppose that is? It is, good foil hat fodder. That's all it is.
I'm wondering how the pins were actually installed to the underside of the sliding heavy cover? Perhaps the resin residues found in the lower holes provides the answer. Imagine you have the uninstalled lid flipped up so you can put in the pins and you use some resin to temporarily secure them until you need them to drop. That would allow you to lay the lid horizontally & slide it. When closed, you'd only need to warm the top where the pins were located to have the resin melt so the pins could drop. As it melted the resin would flow into the lower hole where it was subsequently discovered.
A bit of a toughie ... as it melts it (resin) drops down into the hole, and sets again; before the pin has loosened enough to drop down. Brrrrr~!
But 'warming the top' doesn't seem all that feasible to me-how much of a warm would do the job, and how might we warm it?
How does one flip the lid? Another toughie - they were clever, those Egyptians (or whoever).
Uh. You hold the pin in the upper hole with you fingers until one edge of it is prevented falling down by the lower box. Then slide the lid into place.. the pins slide on the lower stone until they find the hole. Like.. not difficult, dude.
@@UnitSe7en Thank you. (In retrospect that's how I'd do it myself if faced with the problem. I wish I'd thought it through, sheesh!)
@@UnitSe7en That's very reasonable if the pins were only at one side of the lid. If there was one at each corner & ones at the midpoint of each side your theory wouldn't work. if there were only four (each corner) your theory would be possible if they spun the lid into its final position and had access on all four sides.
@@UnitSe7en you would have to be inside the coffer to do that
Loving these! Another excellent vid... thank you and keep up the good work.
the progression from 'simple' underground-only tombs to pyramids is pretty cool.
A pyramid is just like an underground tomb, but is in mid-air and/or has a big massive cap on it.
Great series of videos, I like the evidence based narrative that doesn't speculate too much
Nice video! I tend not to assume malice when plain mistake will do the job. How easy would it be to chip just a little too much away from the dovetail and compromise the seal? I wonder if anyone has ever tried to close it to see how tight it is.
Also have any remains of pins ever been found?
Nobody never looked at it, because they know all there is to know. Or so they make us believe, but since the internet and cameras, the task failed.
The director (ex) of Egyptian Antiquities said it's broken in two...
The photo shows a lid in one piece...
He said there is no tunnel under the sphinx...
Photos showing him getting under the sphinx exists... etc.
@Robocrop Coroners in old Egypt ???
CSI Giza is on the case...
So many grave robbers that they HAD to buried the riches with treasures... sure !
Great video man and keep up the good work, looking forward to your new videos…
Really enjoying your channel! please keep making more videos, absolutely fascinating
I really like this channel! The topics are not atypical, the analysis is intelligent, and the subjects are thought provoking. What is rather nice is that the majority of the commenters are interested in real logic based discussion.
This particular video offers a really obscure mystery! Admittedly, I was unaware of this one. There have already been great speculation amongst the other comments. Really, this is one that needs more analysis of the holes themselves to see if traces of the pins can be found and if those traces could demonstrate if the pins were sheared.
Though I like your touching on the subject of the purpose of the pyramids... I honestly think it would be best to stay with the hard science unless a proposed theory of cultural values and ideology could hint at the how it was done. Like in the case of a hand planer for planning wood... in western culture it is designed to be pushed away from the worker, in eastern culture it is designed to be pulled toward the worker. This design difference is hidden in the cultural values. In the east it is believed that all things must come back to center and therefore the tool is designed to be pulled toward. In the west there is an explorers mentality and so you push outward. For the east the journey is within and the west is a journey of the beyond; these philosophies are reflected in the design and building of things in their respective societies. If there is a cultural thing that would indicate why or how something would be built, it may be helpful. Most the time it just breeds debate with the flat earthers that want to talk about the Annunaki, and how the pyramids are really for the aliens ships to dock or something. Not that that talk cant be fun... but there are so many other channels for that. Can we just keep one channel rooted in real and provable science? Thank you for all your hard work, these videos are great!
“Not atypical”? You are saying that they are typical. I would disagree and say the topics are atypical.
Pushing a hand-planer forward has nothing to do with cultural tendencies. You often pull it sideways. Japanese electric hand planers have always been "push forward."
That just sounds really fishy
@@histguy101 I have never seen a hand planner that was designed to move sideways. Also... I am not talking about electrical tools. I am talking about hand operated and human muscle driven. If you do your research to tools that are 200yrs old or more you will see what i am talking about.
@@brianchecketts9792 a hand planer has two handles. You hold with two hands. When planing a long board, people often push it from the side, neither towards nor away from them.
@@histguy101 yes... you are generally standing to the side of the board, but you are not pushing it side to side of the tool. Look, I get that you do not know what you are talking about... so how about you GO DO RESEARCH! The hand planner you know is pushed in a direction that moves your hands away from your body's center... a planner from Japan is pulled NOT PUSHED and your hands move towards your body's center.... PLEASE GO GET AN EDUCATION! When you have done your research, you can come back at try having an informed conversation.
Wow! I never knew about the dovetails or copper pins, thank you for your in depth videos about the pyramids. You have rekindled my Giza fascination which was damaged when "Zahi Jones" took charge of the pyramids. It turned my stomach knowing that such a liar and would probably never advance the mystery of the pyramids any further. Anyhow, thanks again for the time and effort you put into these videos 🙂
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I heard, long ago, that the lid to Khufu's sarcophagus is in Mecca being used as a table in the Kaaba. I doubt there is any truth to this but wondering if anyone else has heard it.
Great video, I've enjoyed several of them. Keep up the good work.
That would be really cool to have the lid to the sarcophagus of kufu reunited with the great pyramid. I am sure there are pieces to the puzzle of the Egyptians in private collections around the world
What about the Sarapium, I may have spelled it wrong, do you think the coffers were built for sacred bulls, seems highly unlikely to me?
No way. Those were built to exact precision and I personally don’t believe those were tombs for anything mortal. There is graffiti on some of them that plainly shows the level of construction the Egyptians were capable of. They could carve but not construct. In my humble opinion, they are 10’s of thousands of years old. Look at the Cosway, there are many spots along it with cracks that you can dump a unlimited amount of sand into and it won’t fill up. The whole Giza plateau is extremely older than what they say. Yes I’m saying there is a huge void under the Cosway. I’ll even take a notch further and say that whole region of Egypt’s history dates Back way farther than they says it does
@@nouseforaname5378 100% agree.
@@nouseforaname5378 I agree. There would be no need whatsoever to make such huge and difficult to move solid stone boxes and lids to put bulls in. They are incredible things. And have you noticed that the lids are flat bottomed and the bottoms are flat topped? If the things were coffins they would never need to be opened again- yet they are DESIGNED so that the lids can be slid open and slid closed again ‘at will’. I say at will assuming that whoever had the amazing ability to make them then move them all the way down there and along the passage and into the niches would have no trouble moving the lids back and forth when they needed to. WE would have a lot of trouble doing that though! But to me they contained something, maybe very dangerous of powerful looking at the sheer size of them, and those lids were made to be slid off and on. I’ve never seen any other ‘sarcophagi’ in Egypt that have no lip for the lid to fit into. If it was never meant to be opened, they would have a lip on them and the lids are so heavy they would need to be lifted off and that would be near impossible in that space. Sliding lids. Very suspicious that. 👍
Possibly this Boxes are mineral Based Technology. Like today a Pilotprojekt powered by Musk. The 3D Printed prefabricated building materials made from Stone. For some time there have been 3D printers that can print types of stone like a limestone 3D printer. That also works with powdered granite. So you can also add a mineral structure to the object with impressions such as perovskite. using vor Photovoltaic reasons. I wouldn't be surprised if the boxes were made similarly, and a specific crystal structure could have been built in, atom by atom. like the perovskite sample. Since crystal growth is similar to that of life, a certain spectrum of quantum mechanics could have been used. so the original name of these boxes would fit Neb-Ankh (possessor of life).
@@nouseforaname5378 science is a matter of data and logic, not popular opinion. The extensive evidence shows the Serapeum was a bull necropolis, while literally nothing proves any Egyptian structure is as old as you claim, on the contrary.
I've been enjoying your videos, and the thoughtful and objective way you present what is known, unknown, and false. I also like the reasonable speculations as to what may have actually taken place. Thanks
This is the best no bullshit channel. More history channels need to do what this channel does. Explain, not lie, provide examples and give the best explanation instead of saying, “aliens did it”.
Finally, someone explaining pyramids mysteries instead of saying "It is what it is just because. We know better than you" . Your analysis sounds very professional, You must be educated in some engineering but what exactly ?
One more thing I am curious about are the "ventilation shafts". They should be vertical to help convection air currents flow, while they are far from being vertical. And why use ventilation if it was only a thumb ? What do You think?
You pose very good questions about the shafts. I have a special presentation about them in the works. Thanks for the encouragement!
@@HistoryforGRANITE I am maintenance engineer, got analytical mind type and I like physics by the way. I think we should put in doubt the current state of knowlege, "think out of the box". That's a guarantee of progression. Looking forward to see that presentation! :)
Like back in the day when discovery had good programming. Keep up the good work!
How dare you compare this to something so gross and old. You are ruining everyones life just forgeet AOUT ABOUT EVETYHING NOW
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Absolutely love this channel. Great job. Please more videos and more info about Egypt.
How do you explain the precision cut slabs of granite?? Straight, even,smooth, precise?? 20 ton slab of granite, how in hell do you cut the inside so perfectly and polished it?? Tube drill holes, how was that done??
A group of Russian scientists have demonstrated how to cut and drill granite using tools available to the ancient Egyptians. Their channel 'Scientists Against Myths' has videos showing the process.
"SGD Sacred Geometry Decoded" on UA-cam covers these questions in great detail and shows how the work was done. Well worth a look.
Yiur funny. All theories, nobody has been able to demonstrate anything. A 70 ton solid granite block,(many) moved 400 miles, cut and polished inside of the pyramid!! Yeah right, name one that has been replicated. Can't be done.
Anything that says "decoded" obviously a scam for views. Ridiculous stupid
😄 Russian scientists 😄 they are laughing stock of science! Ridiculous. Nothing has ever been reproduced ,nothing. Find one source where a 70 ton solid granite block was quarried, moved, cut, carved precision, polished exactly like what's in Egypt, without iron tools. Let alone repeating it dozens of times. Nobody can.
One question I've had for a while, is why are these pyramids unadorned, while other prymids seem overflowing with sculpture, paintings, and writing?
They were built before the dynastic Egyptians inherited these sites.
I dont believe the ancient Egyptians ever managed to get in.
Or they would have "graffitied" the entire interiors.
Gary, check out the videos on The Land of Chem`s channel.
It was my understanding that as soon as a future Pharoah was born there was a knowledge that they would die. So the building of a pyramid wood span their life. Those Pharoahs that died young (i.e. King Tut) their passing being sooner than expected meant there was less time to complete the building project and therefore was rushed. This resulted in omission of the decor because it was more of a fashionable thing as opposed to the more functional necessities of the pyramid. It is thought that the pyramid itself was a passageway to the afterlife, so the configuration of the pyramid was primary in scope and the adornments were secondary. At least this is what was explained to me. If I am wrong or have misspoken, I encourage anyone to correct me on the matter. Or if there are alternate theories, I would live to hear them.
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@@ddocspeck Hmm. Did you have a specific episode in mind?
Idk how you do it but you've been making hits since day 1. A lot of people are saying the same exact thing where your destined for many many more subscribers. Top notch stuff
Quality work, always… more of this please
Nice research but it makes me suspect a technological purpose of the whole arrangement rather than security. If security was one of its main aims I would size the surrounding granite blocks such that they are slightly taller than the “coffin” i.e so that the top of the lid would be level with the top of the surrounding blocks ( on three sides) once the lid is in position. So the lid could not be pushed off with brute force. To me the construction appears to try to achieve a mechanically very rigid whole ( for whatever purpose).
Very interesting topic that I was unaware of. Regarding the purpose of The Giza Pyramids I have always been of the opinion that it is something in between modern Egyptolygys take and someone like Chris Dunn’s. Empty coffins being used in initiations into Mystery Schools is something very well documented, and even our former President George Dubya would have laid in one as a neophyte in Skull And Bones. But then judging by monuments like The Temple of Hathor, extremely gaudy and over-the-top burials would fall right in line with the motif of the folks who considered themselves living gods. I am blown away by the monuments one way or another, but still not quite convinced they were fill-up stations for space aliens. Another great video, dude!
Interesting take, thanks for sharing
@@jamesmmusic5806 Thanks, I learned of the theory in Manly P. Hall’s “The Secret Teachings of All Ages” which is a magnificent read, especially the large section on Ancient Egypt. PDF is open source and free online. Cheers!
Watched several of your video's, and really like your passion. The Sarcophagus is an interesting subject, but I wish there had been some commentary on how they were constructed. Perhaps it's covered in another video, I'm sure to watch more. Thanks!
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I find it hard to believe they were tombs with no writing on its walls. One thing Pharaoh's seemed to like to do is boast about how great they were by having their stories written all over.
No writing inside the pyramids, and no writing telling how they built it. Yet they documented every other aspect of their life.. Also there is clearly water erosion on the sphinx enclosure as well as the base of the pyramids. Its been 10000 years since Egypt had that much rain. There is definatly more evidence that the Egyptians inherited the pyramids rather than built them.
This perception of missing text is only because people are generally ignorant of the timeline of written language development in Egypt, and the reasons for it developing in the first place.
It was developed less than a thousand years earlier, probably less than 800.
It was developed for recording trade and tax - not religion or funerary practices, so a transition to using it for these purposes would have been more gradual, as would the perceived need of the royalty and wealthy to educate themselves to become literate.
The number of literate people within this time period would still be extremely limited - even less than later periods where only the rich and successful traders could afford to educate their children.
Literacy probably did not extend to artisans of stone at all in the 4th dynasty, or if it did it was extremely sporadic given carved heiroglyphs were not seen within a pyramid until the final burial of the 5th dynasty about 2 centuries later.
Given all these things it is not even remotely surprising to find no heiroglyph text within any of the Giza complex pyramids.
@@mnomadvfx nonsense
@@davidhenriksen4368 when you start talking about these sorts of things you just have to start using ockhams razor
@@theotter6279 Exactly why leveling out and tunneling extensively through the Giza makes the most sense as a mining operation, not as a series of tombs or temples. The shear scale is reminiscent of a massive mining operation like we see today, way beyond capabilities of copper tools and stone pounders. Time has erased the evidence of the original builders.
Would it be that hard to lift it with some gigantic crowbars of sorts? It is no problem to lift a ton with a basic one. Or even cut the pins with a chisel. Clearly the Egyptians didn't know about hardened steel so they could not guess the massive impact it had.
Very interesting as always.
Appreciate attention to detail :the shot @ 3:55 showing the hole for 'locking' is excellent and surface aging on the granite which is protected from the elements seems deeply pitted. Living in Devon UK granite is everywhere but rarely gets the shiny patina seen here.l'm enjoying pragmatism and presentation of channel.
Fascinating conjecture.
Zahi Hawass and Bob brier believes that khufu burial could be in a hidden chamber based off his mothers sarcophagus, also didn't the pharaohs get buried twice upper and lower? great job as always really appreciate all the hard work you do for your community thanks.
I like your new approach to investigating these artifacts. Such sophisticated stonework is beyond comprehension. I truly think Egyptian antiquity ministry does not want research done because it will prove Egyptians did not build them and they are thousands of years older than they say.
It's not beyond comprehension at all - the video poster narrated its features very succintly and with detail.
The only mystery here is why this coffer is so relatively intact compared to others forced open to reveal their contents.
@@mnomadvfx That is true how intact it is. I guess what i blown away with or trying to allude to was how skillfully those groves were cut & with such precision. How they slid together so perfectly. Amazing.
@@mnomadvfx Lol that's the only mystery? Ridiculous lmao
Amen
Wow. Stop believing fairy tale grifters lying for views. Let me guess, you also believe in "god/gods".
Another topic: Ever notice how the casing blocks at the entrance of the Great Pyramid are barely eroded, yet those on all other sides are heavily worn away by wind?
Was a ramp constructed quite early to break into the pyramid, that protected these blocks from the elements?
Sand and debris from falling stones would pile up on all sides. But nobody ever bothered to clear the spot right under the entrance because the hill was convenient for getting up and into the pyramid.
@@HistoryforGRANITE Who would have bothered to keep the other sides clear for the extended periods required for the erosion to happen?
The pyramid was probably cleared many times, Late Period dynasties, Romans, 18th century explorers etc. But since it was opened people have always wanted to take a look inside, hence the need for a convenient hill up.
Check out the new drone video that show the offset for a spiral in the center
@@zimskasalamaa This channel is about the real world, so probably not.
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Could the resin, found in the bottom locking hole, previous have been in the upper hole, as a low viscosity liquid like honey, slowly releasing the locking pin
Vyse took a sample back to England, not sure if its whereabouts are known. I think wax is a closer analogy than honey.
@@HistoryforGRANITE Ok, honey and other organic sugar solutions may have disapeared over time, but wax, like the one used in candle lights, need heat to melt. However many other viscous resins of the time could have been used, like harpax resin from trees, fossilizing in to amber over time.
It's also quite possible that the lid is not the original, as later kingdoms greatly repaired the large pyramid complexes.
Interesting and a logical explanation.
Interesting video, very good job. Hope you will continue this way!
Another fine video, very informative.
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4:53 ‘Carved’ with what?
Granite is minimum 7 on the hardness scale. ‘Lockable’ where is the ‘drill’ that made that lockable hole in ‘Granite’? Finally, not one single mummy has been found in ‘Any’ pyramid, there are literally hundreds of ancient pyramids in Egypt and not one contained a body, tombs/Graves/burial sites? The ‘evidence’ is strongly on the ‘Not’ side in this debate 🤔😮😮😮
Since you can't shape granite with copper, how did they create these boxes?
@@bodystomp5302 That's the point.
I agree the evidence is just not there for them being tombs. Quite the opposite in fact. It’s almost like saying each king that has a pyramid ‘assigned to him’ by Egyptologists didn’t want anyone to remember anything about him at all! Hardly a realistic assumption!
it must be hard being this uneducated, take a gaze at the scientists against myths account on this platform, you can drill granite just fine using copper, and there is documented written existence of such drills in the hieroglyphics themselves.
You are still sprouting this stuff?
Granite is around 7 on mohs hardness scale just like the most crumbly sandstone. They get that rating because they both have a lot of quartz.
But let’s follow your logic through.
Window glass has the same hardness of mild steel. Around 5.5 and since limestone and copper are around 4 then glass chisels and hammer could be used to work copper and limestone.
Traditional steel chisels still being used by granite workers today have a lower Mohs hardness rating than granite. Therefore all the footage of them is CGI and a conspiracy by the archaeologists to hide the real truth?
If you’re getting your info from the lost high tech types you are going to keep making silly statements like this. They show you don’t care about the topic.
It all depends on how tightly the lid fitted to the base. If there was a small gap - which I'm guessing there was - then all you need to do is stick a very thin wedge into it, then use the equivalent of a thin hacksaw-like blade to cut the pins.
As an architect, i can see two problems in this video. First one, the lid is not displayed backwards in relation to the coffer as you say. It´s displayed perfectly. Second thing is, the pins are not positioned as you show in the drawings. They are not in the the front of the coffer but instead in the rear. So, not a very safe coffer i would say. It´s like putting a lock in a door in the same side of the hinge. No wonder it was so easy to break in.
My new fav ancient Egypt channel
The anomalies remain.
The oldest work is the most precise.
How and with what tools were the 100s of thousands of blocks, boxes and other artifacts out of the hardest stone made?
Anyone may try to replicate 1 of the 1000s of hardstone vases found under the step pyramide using the methods attributed to that time.
It has not been done!
Yes,I agree,,,,all my life=pyramid=wonder,,,also it was easy to rob and steal,,with the right security(army),mob around a ruler,,,,but we have ,until today(now) finding those exact questions,,,how did they cut,finish rock like this so long ago,,perhaps soon we will unlock a piece of the puzzle that will further explain it,,,or maybe not,,,,,,,,,,pat.
@Gill70 Have a look at the 'Scientists Against Myths' channel. This group of Russian scientists have created a stone vessel using tools available to the ancient Egyptians.
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I am familiar with them.
Have seen their efforts in trying to do 'something like that' but it is not replicating.
We can't replicate it to this day, not even with high tech machinery!
I would advise the 'UnchartedX' channel to get an unbiased insight of this topic.
@@james_rubenach and it was done but not without great difficulty and the hole in the middle was not the same as the Egyptian ones at all. It was a fair crack though, but the method and the time taken was unbelievable. Not to mention the effort. There was something like 40.000 of these jars found.
1) this is a myth. The oldest work is not the most precise. This can be seen in pyramids, sarcophagi, stone vessels, sculptures, temples etc
2) hard stone was worked using stone tools, this has been experimentally proven (Denys Stocks, Stella Nair/Jean Pierre-Protezen)
3) stone vessels have been replicated. Check out the channel "scientists against myths"
Maybe there is voids in it like the main pyramid?
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What makes this content good is your intelligence and ability to connect things.
Love your insight info... extremely informative and thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Wonderfully informative! I have never believed much of what "hawass" has said. He always seemed to interested in being the "center of attention" than knowing true facts. I've wondered why no one has ever thought about re-polishing a few of the remaining lime stone casing blocks. Polishing even one would let us know how bright they could have been when the pyramid was finished. Egypt has always been my favorite subject-keep up the fine work!.
The sarcophagi that actually carried a body were shaped like the body they contained. This is just a square box meant to hold something other than a body- not a sarcophagus.
The only thing I dislike about this channel, is there is not nearly enough for me to watch. I binge watch these videos all the time even rewatching them. But I can't fault the channel for this. I have to fault the lack of egypt in investigating even easy things. Hopefully one day we will make huge discoveries and excite people again.
Wonderful channel, Mr Rogers . . . no, really! Love your voice, and every time I tune in, I'm always reminded of one of our heroes in life, Fred Rogers. It's uncanny. Did you grow up watching Fred, I'm curious? Anyway, I'm happy I've discovered your in-depth, knowledgeable channel. And, don't change your voice, or, delivery. It is perfect!
No hieroglyphics in the pyramids. No story. None on the box itself. Has there ever been a mummy found in one of the large granite stone boxes?
in the step pyramid of djoser and in the red pyramid of snefru parts of destroyed mummies have been found. the mummy fragments of djoser are contemporary and thus absolutely legit. the mummy fragments of the red pyramid were stolen. In the pyramid of menkaura, a huge granite sarcophagus was discovered and something seemed to still rest inside. however, when the sarcophagus was transported to england over the sea, the ship sank.
@@phoneguy4637 didn’t answer one of the questions.
@@PainterFRO yes, I just DID. the djoser pyramid and the red pyramid HAD mummy fragments in their "stone boxes", the menkaura pyramid sure did, but the sarcophagus was lost. and otherwise your question doesn't make any sense at all: how could any mummy have been found if the pyramids were all plundered 4200 years ago?
@@phoneguy4637 Show me some links to evidence of mummies. Not speculation Why are there no hieroglyphics in the pyramids?
yeah the egyptians decorated walls and ceilings for their kings, but not the inside of these pyramids..
Are you certain that this was a sarcophagus? Is there DNA evidence?
Not finding something is not in itself evidence one way or another especially for things so old.
That was really fantastic, top quality visuals as well as completely fascinating
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It was never a sarcophagus….
Not Tombs. Not sarcophagi.
Not a chance.
Even megalomaniac pharaohs wouldn't go to this much effort for a tomb. Then forget their hieroglyphs.
Luv the videos , please keep them coming!
Go back and look at the lids on some of the coffers, they seem to not match the base.
Where they do match, they display elaborate detailing, but what caught my eye was the 'protuberances' at the ends of the lids. In one case, the protuberances were rounded down into cone shapes.
With the different lids, they were at different levels of completion, from square bosses with no working done other than to have them there, to the cone shapes of the last one with protuberances.
I wonder if they used the protuberances to hold ropes for adding mechanical levers in order to move the lids into place easier.
On the last of the photographs, the lids did not have the protuberances, but had holes instead. With those holes, they could insert poles directly into the lids, or short dowels for ropes instead and when removed, nothing would mar the look of the lid.
I always wondered if the protuberances being left were to enhance the decoration of the stone, but now I believe they were left because they didn't have time to remove them after the burial.
LOVE your channel man!
Great work brother, thank you for the insight
Thank you for speaking the facts as they are known right now. A lot of people talking about ancient Egypt talk about what they "think" happened.
your videos and approach are fantastic. i've become utterly jaded regarding mainstream egyptology and what i can only conclude is its absolute disinterest in truly solving any of the myriad mysteries of ancient egypt, whilst focusing its energies almost exclusively on merely preserving the informational status quo. some of what you present is so blindingly obvious, it makes me wonder if egyptologists are either wilfully ignorant or in fact not egyptologists at all, but just obscurantist politicians in disguise.
Happy are you who finds this channel and have multiple videos and a Sunday afternoon.
And how did they process granite and basalt, by the way, on an industrial scale and yes, a trifle, an engineering project? How was the logistics between the Aswan quarry and the Giza plateau?
Egypt, all of Egypt, the entire society was cutting and shaping, moving massive stones on a industrial scale.....everything is cut stone, shaped, moved and stacked, fitted in colossal engineering projects. It must have been easy to work with stone. The ancient world were super builders using stone and assoc tech.
FYI, the coffers were probably leftovers found on the site, just stage props at this point.
The one in the great pyramid suffered a lot of damage when they moved it in. They were out of time though, and didn't want to raise suspicion.
There's not really a scientific method that can explain how/why that coffin was so destroyed.
I figured they used dynamite to blow it open a long time ago, but this wouldn't of been possible when following the timeline and details. Nor would anyone attempt that in such a confined space.
Architecture even said the coffer was never used.
Love your videos I fell in love with the history of pyramids bc of you!
Wow, those lid pin details are an ingeniously simple idea!
Well said and well presented.
i love to see your channel already has hundreds of thousands of views, quality rules
My next video will be the most important yet. Gonna be a long one, lots of info to cover.
As the filmmaker knows, some of the pyramids and tombs of the high ranking were broken into not by commoners, but by later Pharaohs and high officials. The reason: gold, which was originally a decorative item in the Old Kingdom, had become worth a lot, and in the Middle Kingdom had become that new concept called "money". Every later Pharaoh (once the Egyptian gold mines were played out) who needed cash to finance a war, a lavish lifestyle or his own tomb, was tempted by what he knew was in the old Pharaoh's tombs, namely gold jewelry and art such as was found in Tutankhamen's tomb, only probably incredibly more lavish for some of the Pharaohs.
Man this channel starts off so good then by like the 4th video it's like ohh how long til this video steers towards that guy that wrote the giza book.
I wonder if another trick is missed here?
You say being 2nd means less attention and also that this burial was mostly in bedrock.
So have any deep scans been made of the actual pyramid above bedrock?
Maybe this tomb was a complete red herring and one is awaiting discovery in the depths of the above bedrock pyramid?
Misdirection is one of the simplest security methods.
If the great pyramid had chambers and still possibly has unfound ones, then maybe this pyramid has hidden a chamber/s?
Love this channel, so well thought out and produced. 👌
Thank you for the time and effort ❤️
great observation keep it up
05:35 onwards - Thanks for having inserted Maragioglio and Rinaldi table... That was a neat idea: theirs are the most precise drawings of Giza pyramids' inside layout
M&R are the most detailed and comprehensive for the 4th & 5th dynasties, although Dormion's work is a bit better for the Great Pyramid itself. Maddeningly, there are some glaring errors in all of them however, and so I always cross reference with photos whenever possible.
@@HistoryforGRANITE absolutely right! I was able to just read M&R books at the Biblioteca Nazionale in Rome. Couldn't borrow it... I have a copy of Dormion's book, but after a neat start he bends a bit into the realm of the unsubstantiated. I recommend also "The Pyramids and Temples of Gizeh" by W.M.F. Petrie. Reading all three of them gives a good idea of the Great Pyramid internal layout, IMHO better than after reading Mark Lehner's work, which was indeed for a quite different public than Petrie 's or M&R.
Looking forward to the next video!
Love your theories. And I respect you very much for saying that they are theories and speculation. As logical as they sound, I appreciate that you are not trying to convince anyone that they are the only truth, but a possibility. And you explain them well and offer a solid foundation, but you think outside the box, which is great! In this world full of conspiracy theories, this is refreshing. Thank you!!
wow i love these all, keep it up!
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Very interesting! I had never heard about this fun mystery.
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Awesome stuff and great video.