Is PianoTeq 8 A Buy In 2024?
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- Опубліковано 10 січ 2024
- Does PianoTeq 8 still hold up for this year. Is it a buy?
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Make sure you try the new 8.2 update released yesterday - lots of improvements to the sound. I use it with external reverbs (well, in a DAW), EQ and saturation. I tend to prefer the Blüthner model.
How does yours sound so crisp are you doing any EQ to it? Are you changing any tones at all
The fact that you can run this on an iPhone or iPad just makes it a no brainer. I use it live with my Studiologic Numa X piano and it just works amazingly.
I have actually never run it off the phone or iPad. I’m sure it’s great
Do they sell a single license for desktop and iPad or do you have to purchase separately?
@@everybodyhasoul5438 yes. Same license for both
@@everybodyhasoul5438when you buy Stage version you can have up to 3 devices activated at once.
@@everybodyhasoul5438if you still have a slot in your desktop license, you can use that for iOS and iPadOS.. if you’re using same apple ID in your iOS and iPadOS devices, then it will only take a single slot for all your devices.
I've already taken notes on every plugin I want to buy in the near future months ago but damn, I always come back to your videos just for the impro music. One of the few pianists I can listen for hours, thank you!
Thanks 😎
i just came to listen how the plugin sounds and got hypnotized by your playing.. you're incredible , such a joy to my ears :) thank you sir!
Pianoteq is by far my favorite out of NI maverick, noire and pure piano. It’s just a joy to play and the reverb is beautiful too for ambient style. It can also nail those fast repeated notes and consistent velocity. Love it!
sounds amazing, and so you are ! wish you a great 2024 on the way 🙏😊
thanks! you too
I think the ability to push a button and get a new $100,000 piano is pretty luxurious, even if it’s not precisely the same thing. Inspirational playing as always!
agreed
This is it! The ultimate piano vst, alive like a real piano, with the best dynamics, best presets (i have the studio version), best sounds, best resonance, best characters, lightyears ahead. This is the future of vsts. Happy new year!
Yep it's great. Thanks for watching!
Pianoteq has been the sound of the piano I use for practice since around 2011. I upgraded from Stage to Standard 7 a while back. I could be content with Stage in hindsight, but I'm happy for Mod to have the money for Standard. I have e.g. Komplete which has a number of sample-based pianos which are nothing compared to Pianoteq.
Sounds great from here, really nice playing. A nice mini-concert, especially the K2 piece.
thanks!
I have been using Pianoteq for many years and it just keeps getting better and better. The new 8.3 version with the new Bosendorfer piano is my favourite to date. I can’t wait to see how the development of this library progresses!
Definitely a yes for me! I once said I’m good with only having Keyscape/Omni2 and Native Instruments set of kontakt pianos, but pianoteq 8 has its own multiple lanes!✌🏾
yep, it's great!
"only having Keyscape/Omni2 and Native Instruments set of kontakt pianos"? How is that "only" - that's more pianos for a lifetime. Mozart just made do with his single one piano!
Very nice, great review. I appreciate all the in-depth discussion of the sound and how the sound really is good for you
Thanks :)
Great playing! I use Pianoteq on my M1 iPad Pro controlled by my Roland FP-60X piano. I also use the USB audio interface in the FP-60X, so it feels like Pianoteq is built in to the piano. The quality of the sound and feel inspires me to many long improv sessions like this one :)
I've had the Pro Studio Bundle for so long, I didn't remember when I bought it.
I play in a worship band and your playing inspires me!
Hoping as an Arturia user their next version of their modeled piano takes a good step in this direction, this is clearly better at the moment.
:)
I own Pianoteq 8 Pro and nothing I've tried beats it for authentic playability. Also, the sound has come on a long way during the past few version. However, I still don't feel it is quite there in regards to overall sound. However, if it keeps on improving as much as the past few major releases, it will eventually replace all my sample libraries! I own around 12+ piano sample libraries and my goto is Noire. This gets me most of my work done but it doesn't sound as alive as a piano sampled in a decent room/hall with multiple mic perspectives. As a result I'm looking to upgrade it and am considering the Garritan CFX or Ivory 3.
Garritan CFX is an amazing piano. It's just so big. I love playing it
@@SamTheBeardGuy Yes. I’m interested to hear how the Garritan CFX compares to Ivory 3
Great playing !!! Funny to read all the sempiternel discussions on the various forums about the various piano actions , when in fact , you clearly demonstrate that with top notch technique , what you can do a a Korg D1 is way superior to what a lot of wannabe will ever be able to achieve on digital pianos 10x the price !! Congrats 🙌 and also big thump up to the Modarrt chaps.
Hahaha, thanks! At the end of the end it’s just a bunch of buttons
@@SamTheBeardGuy btw, I’m sure you are going to like the latest 8.2 update, if you haven’t tried it yet . Given you like felt and smooth pianos , the new Steinway D should please you .
great job Sam! Thanks!
Thanks!
Amazed how lightweight this is, specially for iPad users, the sound is perfect, playfull, for playing live this is the best choice!
Yeah it's crazy.
Well done Sam, very good playing. I see you learned a lot on how to set up pianoteq that out of box sounds so perfectly unreal. If I may suggest, you can also play with the unison width (0.90 with random enabled) that also increases a bit the realism, and exclude the limiter that sounds a bit artificial. A final touch you can try is customizing the reverb, there is the possibility to use custom IR, this also help with the realism. Many thanks for this video indeed.
Thanks! Yeah, adjusting unison width, often I'll swap out mics, beat up the piano a slight amount, really helps. I typically use valhalla vintage verb
I listen to these reviews for the amazing
piano playing!
thanks!
It sounds really nice and it's a great software. Based on the facts that I'm a beginner, I don't really need it and that after trying the demo I realized I'd probably chase more after buying more instrument packs, choosing the right instrument and tinkering, than playing, I realized it's not probably the right choice for me. I'm thinking about the UVI Austrian Grand, as it's cheaper than all Pianoteq versions and I love the Bosendorfer sound - it's also what I have on my main digital piano, albeit in lower quality.
I get that, if you're a beginner beginner, pianoteq might be overkill. UVI Austrian is great, I did a video on it if you haven't checked it out yet.
Two suggestions: A pop filter for the microphone. 😉 And you may try to drag the "conditions slider" at the bottom slightly to the right - a bit away from "mint". That gives you an extra amount of realism.
yeah I think I need to get the mic away from mouth, it actually already has a pop filter on it
@@SamTheBeardGuy ... or you activate the high-pass filter if available on the mic (the SM 7 should have that).
Great playing and musicianship 👌
thanks!
I’ve used and loved PT for several years now. Not sure if anyone has already mentioned this, but you can freeze settings like the condition slider and your preset velocity curve globally so that you don’t have to adjust them every time you change a preset. I believe it’s under that snowflake icon near the top of the GUI. Thanks for your inspirational playing!
That's super helpful to know, I never really tohught about it being a feature I needed until I started flying through presets for the video haha. Thanks for telling me.
Nobody can tell me that's not a real piano! Pianoteq really knocked it out the park! Who needs sample libraries in 2024?
Yep, it's amazing
It has the best playing experience/feel/touch/etc, hands down,
but it has a few seemingly little probpems wigh its sound, one of these little weird things about its sound is its attack part of the sound, it reminds me of e-kick drum pitch pluck-style envelope sound, and I tried for the longest time and I can't unhear it, and it really bothers my ears, it makes it sound fake piano sound to my ears, and my ears are not even that sensitive to timbre. This is just how I hear/perceive it, but I read si.ilar things on forums and UA-cam comment sections. I hope they can improve the attack part of the sound in Pianoteq 9. Pianoteq 8's attack part of the sound sounds considerably more realistic compared to Pianoteq 7's attack part of the sound, but it still fake sounding (to my ears at least).
Interestingly the Roland modelling (I think they call it "SuperNATURAL" (?)) attack part sounds less synthetic compared to Pianoteq 8's attack.
the thing i couldnt believe about this was how lightweight it is...absolutely fucking blew my mind
yeah it's actually insane
Lets admit this over talented guy is just enjoying playing and every day comes up with a new idea for video to just sit and play for us) "I just bought a new chair for my piano, here is my review. *Improvising for 1.5 hours*. Well, thats a good chair" )
Thanks for the video. Love your improvising more than most of the einaudi and tiersen pieces.
hahaha, I actually do need a new chair, not a bad idea. THanks for watching!
Love the way you play! It’s so inspiring to me! By the way, what’s the midi controller you use?
Korg D1. Thanks for watching!
mee too！！！KORG D1 is my god!!!!
Really nice playing!
thanks!
your performance is amazing, i dont even care if its not a real piano 🔥🔥🔥
hahaha, thanks!
The amazing sound is one thing. What you don't get from piano review videos is what they feel like to play. Pianoteq is in a class of its own when it comes to just feeling so good to play, IMO, with the caveat that I have yet to try Keyscape or VSL Synchron.
Great point, it does feel great to play. It doesn't feel flat like a lot of libraries
I agree with you. Just have to take their word for it.
Question: how much of it is also impacted by the quality of the controller being used? I would say a ton, but only up to a point. I've been looking for a new controller like a P-525 or a CK88. I come from the Yamaha PFP100 and Kurzweil PC2X experience. (Yeah, been a while since I replace my main studio and stage board.)
@@JimmyGelhaar The quality of the keybed makes a huge difference for sure. I'm talking about when using the same controller to compare VSTs on (thereby removing it from the equation) Pianoteq has that extra something that just gives me joy to play, assuming the controller is a decent one.
@@jakeperl5857 Yes, totally makes sense. I have not been in a place to have a rig setup for a few years and I miss it. I have been looking into it quite a bit lately because I want to build out a new workstation/board setup and have been looking at a lot of different boards and looking at Pianoteq (No question I will get it). What is interesting is that of the videos I've watched, I've seen the concept of exactly what you are talking about. Pianoteq has something extra that makes it seem different even on the same controller board from other libraries, whether they're modeled or sampled. I'm definitely looking forward to getting my hands on a new board as well as Pianoteq. And I'm afraid I'll just get lost in the sound for weeks. :)
Your playing sounds amazing! Did you use external effects for this particular video?
Thanks! I used a touched of Valhalla reverb
Thank you very much! Maybe I should get Valhalla, too, though I think it’s quite expensive.
@@SamTheBeardGuy I just looked it up and it’s free - I didn’t know that! That’s great, I’ll definitely check it out! I think I confused it with another plugin.
I like the last part you played its from Michael w Smith called Holy is the Lord ?
I think I played son of suffering, and Holy Forever. Don't remember doing a MWS song. Thanks for watching!
Hello, very good sound!!. Please tell me what interface and type of connection you are using in this video. thanks and regards.
I have a hard time finding any sound really beautiful on pianoteq, I love the Kawai sampled sounds on ca99... I love every single one. But I have a roland fp90x, very basic sounds just acceptable, kind of bad, however pianoteq just needs an iphone so its cool and handy, I like the felt pianos and some of the vintage eps, but pianowise I'm still searching, I really like the sampled sounds of kawai ca series and yamaha cp88..
Wonderful demo, at this time I really want a nice piano sound in the home studio and this solution seems great to me.
What controller keyboard do you use? Congratulations
Any chance we can get your settings for microphones / reverb etc ? Thanks! It sounds so much better on your video than it does on my Pianoteq haha
I didn't do anything extra on this, it's all straight out of the box
In comparing the two VSTs of Pianoteq and Keyscaoe, I have noticed Pianoteq sounds better through speakers than Keyscape. Yet Keyscape sounds better through headphones than Pianoteq. It is a strange anomaly.... I think with speakers Pianoteq can breathe with the room as it is completely raw where as Keyscape is quite heavily processed. Plus through speakers Pianoteq you can just dig in and that bass resonance is heavenly, you can easily be deceived into believing it is real. I think the stereo width is better in Pianoteq but you have more options so it is a bit of unfair comparison.
The only weakness of Pianoteq is sometimes it can feel a bit too spongy and soft compared to Keyscape especially when digging in and the mid range is still off slightly.
Both are amazing instruments and lead the way in my opinion in there retrospective fields.
Yeah I can see that. We are talking about very processed vs. no processing, no it's going to feel different ways in different mediums. But you are right, at the top of the game in their respective fields
@@SamTheBeardGuy which one though on a desert island? Can only choose one lol....
Yes, this is my take as well, even though I have yet to try keyscape. I find pianoteq rather dull in headphones. But with good speakers... yeah, sound so alive and realistic. I imagine pianoteq is really good live for this reason.
I wish they had a better EP sound. The Hohners really suck.
but its my goto turn on the computer and have it in the bkd prog
because it saves every single thing you play in an archive folder
so if you blast something out, a few days later you can retrieve it easily
I really wish they would get their crap together for a good rhodes sim
then it would be so essential
great real piano sounds, lots of variations
very small size and ram footprint
records every note you ever play on it
runs on windows tablets just fine.
The only thing I don't like about Pianoteq is the transients. It just sounds a bit off to me
I've found making a few adjustments in the plugin helps with that
Amazing!!!!!
Patreon is live! Link in description
Really?! No way, I'll totally check it out
Thanks!!
Will it include MainStage concert files in the future? Would love that
@@ijmball123 Me and a buddy are working on building a mainstage concert for worship, hoping to release this year.
How much difference do the 192khz audibly make in the pro version? Would love to have that without spending that much money.
I doubt it'll be that audible. No one can hear that type of quality
9:47 I love this song so much, What is the title of this song?
Sorry for asking such a noob question, but can I use Pianoteq/Keyscape with my Clavinova CSP-295? Can I connect with MIDI wireless or wired to the computer and then have the Pianoteq samples being played back through the pianos speakers?
You would need an audio interface and speakers, don't think you can send audio back to the keyboard.
Hi! You're awesome!
Which 88 midi keyboard/digital piano is best in your experience with piano vst sounds?
In terms of keybeds etc..
Thanks!
MAudio Hammer 88 is one of my favorites, unfortunately it's too big for my tray, so I use the Korg D1. Korg D1 is still great, but the Hammer 88 feels really nice in that $500 price
@@SamTheBeardGuy see that the D1 doesn't have usb, are u connecting it with midi? Any latency issues with the daw?
@@Jonathan193728 I have the D1 and can confirm that there are no latency issues using a traditional midi connector. In fact, in my experience, traditional midi works better than USB midi. Once you have the 5-pin midi connector at the back of your audio interface, you should be fine. Alternatively, you could use a midi to usb cable
I try Pianoteq every time they come out with a new version. Each time I get the impression it just sounds like every no name grand piano I have played. You know, you see these grand pianos in a church or a school auditorium and it has a brand name like Stuart or Henry Miller on it. It is impressive as it is software and not sampled. It just sounds kind of OK.
How does yours sound so crisp? Are you doing any EQ adjustments at all?
Thanks for this video. What are your thoughts on the 8.2 update?
It’s great. I can’t remember off the top of my head what specifically they changed, but I remember when I went through the update I was happy
@@SamTheBeardGuy Yes I’m happy with the update as well. To my ears it’s an improvement over the previous version. Pianoteq and Noire are my current goto’s. I’m quite interested in the new VSL Fazioli 212, Garritan CFX and Ivory 3. I will be trying the VSL demo this next week. Shame Ivory 3 doesn’t have a demo version or cooling off period. I’m going to have to pass on Ivory 3 because of this. At least there’s a Lite version of the Garritan CFX so I may try this first.
Can u recommend what type of speakers to use, to make it feel and sound like a real upright ? Or even 80% near ?
I have HS80's
I really like what I'm hearing and have now tried the trial version today. I use a Kawai VPC-1 88-key midi piano controller with both the Synthogy Ivory II American Concert D, and the VI Labs True Keys. While searching this morning for a stand alone midi sound module for my VPC-1 because I'm tired of firing up the computer every time I want play piano, I then learned about this Pianoteq 8 software. I downloaded the trial Standard version and began messing around and was highly impressed. I have a yacht load of money tied up in the five piano sample sets I've been using for 7 years, only to see that Pianoteq offers a cruise ship load of pianos for a fraction of my current investment. This of course means I still have to use a computer with this gawd awful monitor sitting on my piano case which I was trying to get rid of. While I should've gotten a Kawai MP11 with built-in sound engine, I chose the VPC-1 controller because of it's RM3 grand piano action with woodcore keysticks and textured synthetic keytops. Guess I might add Pianoteq 8 to my list of software, keep the computer but upgrade standard monitor to a touch monitor for easier access and control. By the way I love your piano playing and could listen to that all day with a breaks on Mon-Wed-Fri to avoid overload.
Buy iPad or iPhone and run pianoteq on that. No need to fire up your computer anymore. Works really well for me.
I have Pianoteq 8 and I notice octave key above the middle C (C5)the keys are a bit louder and jumps out of the mix when playing live. Specially the G5. Anyone also noticed it?
I don’t have that issue with other VST pianos.
I don't think I have that issue, are you sure your keyboard doesn't have an issue with that note, or is just when using PianoTeq?
Did you update to 8.2?
Nothing like that here, so I would also suspect the keyboard. Anyway since it’s possible to edit each note (with standard and up) even if it was a problem with pianoteq, you can fix it yourself.
I don’t believe it’s the keyboard because I have 4 other piano VST and they don’t have that issue. Yes, it is on the latest version.
Thank you for the reply.
I had similar problems. I traced the issue to the freeze parameters. I think the volume one and the dynamics one makes it so that some keys get loader when switching between presets. Try turning off the freeze and flip through all of your presets. That should reset them. Hope this helps
Thanks a lot for your video ! Could you tell us the midi controller you use for the video ?
korg D1. Thanks for watching!
@@SamTheBeardGuy, great sound ! And great playing too ! 👍
Modart's technology leaves that of samples in the lurch, in my opinion. The sensitivity is incomparable, especially with a good master keyboard like the Korg D1 or the Kawai MPC1
This is amazing , bringing my rolnd fp30x to next level, any experience it‘ll work with bluetooth midi (iOS) connection fine without any input delay ?!
I’ve had some pretty noticable delay with the Yamaha bluetooth midi dongle on Pianoteq ios. You’re best of with a wired connection
I go hot and cold with Pianoteq especially since I own UVI Ravenscroft 275. Maybe I need to upgrade and try again. I think I get disapointed by a lot of vst's when I want to use them in a live situation, I find they can sound thin and lack body. They always sound great in headphones though🤣. But if i compare my Kawai ES920 against these VST's the Kawai wins hands down thorugh my pa (even though I know it shouldn't). It's just that the Kawai is meant for live use and vst's are happiest in your headphones. Maybe I just don't have the eq right in my live setup for my VST's (coming out of my Focusrite of course). I must admit to preferring not to mess with eq too much, else can make it even worse.
Yeah it just depends on the environment. For a lot of live stuff you're probably going to need to do some treatment. I love PianoTeq in the studio, not using it a ton live
In your opinion, is better piano than native instruments?
Yes, it's way more detailed. I use grandeur a ton live, but PianoTeq is hard to beat in when it comes to authenticity and customization.
Does it run as a standalone or are you using like UVI etc?
standalone and as a plugin. I'm using it as a plugin in this video
Which VST would you recommend for live use in a church band (drums, bass, electric guitar, keys)? And if it is Pianoteq, which model? I definitely would appreciate a video on this subject (pardon me if you already have one).
I do have a contemporary worship and MainStage one. I love grandeur and gentleman and noire felt love. Keyscape is great too
Thx for replying. Which Pianoteq model(s) are you using exactly for contemporary worship, and in MainStage?
Hi, can you tell me what keyboard you re using?
Korg D1
@@SamTheBeardGuy thank you
what do u think , keyscape is batter or pianoteq
different uses. PianoTeq in some the more advanced music types, like jazz, classical... keyscape for more pop stuff
@@SamTheBeardGuy and what would u suggest for classical ?
@@user-hp2hd5vy5x He already wrote it one comment earlier: "PianoTeq in some the more advanced music types, like jazz, classical". So why do you ask?
Is it me or does it sound very digital?
It comes in super raw and dry, adjustments really take it to the next level. I just loaded up presets
Is this the Pro or Studio?
I'm pretty sure Pro.
@@SamTheBeardGuy It can clearly be seen on the screen (the Pianoteq GUI shows it). 😉
Which 4 instruments is recommended to pick from the Pro?@@SamTheBeardGuy
Is this sample based or synthesized?
Physically modelled
Can I ruin it by making it a lo fi piano 😂?
nothing can be ruined by making it lofi haha
Le problème n'est de de savoir si le pianiste est talentueux ou non mais bien la nouvelle version de Piano-teq.
En tant que pianiste en ce qui me concerne intégrer des orgues était déjà une erreur. Pourquoi pas aussi une guitare ou des trompettes ? Vous verrez dans les nouvelles vidéos de la version 8 une démo ou un pianiste joue avec une tablette .... Pffff ... N'importe quoi !
Changez de nom .... ! Très déçu je garde la version 7 et j'abandonne les nouvelles moutures.
Guitare ist déjà disponible - mais pas bon. Mais il n'y a aucune raison de ne mettre pas à jour la version 8.2. C'est bien mieux que la version 7.
Lol... J'attendrai la 15.7.... Cela évitera de vider mon compte trop souvent pour pas grand chose ...
@@thierryjocelyn4750 Tant pis. 😒