Hungarian viewer here, never before have i seen or heard about this abomination, thanks for letting us now, we surely did our part in adding to the pool of weird guns. Keep it up, Jonatan! 👍
If it was designed for a civilian market, I could see some reasoning for it. I am by no means a firearms designer or engineer, but I think if I was going to design a firearm with a "gimmick" like this in current-day USA, I would've made a pistol version that could easily converted to a rifle by including a slot someone could engineer a stock for; all someone should need past that is the tax stamp. if it marketed well enough, I could sell models classified as long arms already with 16" barrels and with/without stocks or braces. This design in the vid isn't far off in scope from Kel-Tec's 50-round P50 pistol.
This is the Danuvia VD-01. As the engraving states, it is "Mod. Vörös". Vörös Róbert was a hungarian weapons designer, who lived in Germany, and he experienced with the helical magazines. In 1990, the Danuvia took over his work, and made around 50-60 (maybe 100+) pieces of this firearm, with some changes in the designs, as they are well only prototypes. The firearm was intended to be a weapons family with a submachine gun version as the main product (hence the high magazine capacity), and some other versions, not specified. But as the weapons industry of Hungary was gradually destroyed - the last weapons factory (FÉG) closed it's doors around 2005 - Danuvia Machine Factory ended manufacturing weapons in the mid- end nineties, and did not have the opportunity to evolve the VD-01 past the prototype stage, into a full product.
The early Vindicare Assassin pistol looked very similar as I recall. I remember reading a press release from Warhammer way back that it was changed in a subsequent model update because the main criticism from consumers was that it literally looked like a brick.
I'm the one that made the page on the original manufacturer, Danuvia, on Wikipedia! My own lineage is partly Hungarian so i contacted a relative to ask about any information or translation of the company [unfortunately no], even. Information is incredibly hard to come by on Danuvia, as their most famous line of manufacturing are their motorcycles, before the company dissolved in the late 90s. Also fun fact: Danuvia was concieved in 1920s post-Trianon Hungary as an attempt to skirt the treaty on limitation of Arms Production. Second fun fact: The company made the Danuvia 43.M SMG, Danuvia 44 SMG, and the Kucher K1 (Danuvia M53) SMG, of which an M53 K1 was discovered in the Libyan Black Market in 2016 on sale for a few hundred USD. Another was found in Syria with an extremely cut down barrel and stock! The M53 K1 was abandoned in post-war Hungary however as political influence forced Danuvia to manufacture the PPSh-41 and its derivatives, in order to standardize the Eastern Bloc firearms. The M53 K1 was used until the 1970s, where it was finally sunsetted. ~~if you can't tell, I aspire to be a Museum Curator~~
I'm very surprised Whitworth rifling wasn't mentioned along with it's polygonal ammunition while talking about Polygonal rifling he did do remarkable research into the subject .
Suffering a bit from black gun on a black background syndrome here. It's cool to see Jonathan sitting within the collection but these videos would often be clearer if we had a lighter coloured backdrop for the gun itself. When you showed us the sights it was pretty much impossible to make anything out at all.
Yes!!!! For people who may be viewing this on their phones. It’s really hard to see this unique content you’re sharing here. Please crank up the lights or get a light colored table cloth
12:06 The lack of a telescoping bolt at such a late date is truly surprising! Although, to be fair, the whole disassembly procedure here looks like the designer missed significant parts of postwar automatic weapons development, which one may expect of a firearms brand that went dormant in the mid-'40s. 16:15 So that's why they went for FRG made barrels when they had FEG for that at home!
not gone lie its blocky design kinda reminds me of the various stubbers "cased ammo" and autoguns "caseless ammo" from really early warhammer 40k artwork circa rouge trader era to 3rd and 4th editions. Legit looks like something a low level hive ganger in necromunda would be packing as a PDW.
And my suggestion for a review would be the Zylab Patriot muzzle loading pistol. This was designed specifically to be able to compete in UIT centrefire matches after the general UK handgun ban.
I would love to see you cover Brandin Herrera’s Ak-50 and see you’re thoughts on it. Plus I know he would love to pick your brain about tons of historic guns
i like it looks like something youd find in halo or maybe wh40k and i bet all that weight it has is great for low recoil. one could probably make one of those designed to use some high caliber rounds and still be pretty accurate with it when firing.
It feels to me like with some slight changes (telescoping bolt, folding/collapsible stock) it could actually have been a decent little SMG or PDW (if in 7.62 Tokarev).
Lucasfilm and Disney should really get in touch with Johnathan; I swear every other video or every third video, he comes out with a weapon that looks like it should belong in the Star Wars universe or at least would fit right in lol.
Star Wars deliberately chose weapons from the first half of the 20th century to convert to props so as to provide the rustic space western feel we know the franchise for. This is much more Robocop or Judge Dredd's speed
@@CrizzyEyes I don’t doubt that that’s true, but they’ve definitely fallen off of the wagon since the Disney acquisition; I mean, the “AK gaffe” in Andor was just weak and lazy. Something like the firearm in the video would be impressive even for Star Wars now.
what a bizarre and interesting weapon! The design of the drum is fantastic. I'm wondering if the designer didn't just work in another field, saw the drum design for another purpose, like an industrial design, and jumped in with both feet. It would explain the almost memetic design of the gun overall: big black stamped steel brick with almost nothing on the inside, with this magazine. If you never made guns and subsisted on a diet of imported actions movies, I could imagine an unexperienced engineer making something like this. If this thing had a stock, I could imagine it being very popular in some weird regime or locale. Thanks for sharing!
You have to remember that this is a prototype. It was blocky because they were keeping things simple until everything was dialed in, especially the helical mag. No point in spending a ton of money having beautiful tooling made for the prototype, then having to discard all of it after refining the design. Kinda sad it didn't make it, it could've been a really sleek SMG in the same class as the MP5k for example, perfect for protection details, tank crews and the likes. Once refined, it would've been very manouverable, without a stick mag to get caught on stuff.
@@DrakeKillah It's no more blocky than a MAC or an Uzi, and there's no junk hanging off the side to get caught on stuff. You could probably make a few lightening cuts but if it's a machine pistol designed to be carried by brick shithouses, why bother. Weight is good.
@@chaimafaghet7343 That's the thing though... This would not really be carried by brick shithouses... Brick shithouses in the military being special forces, which might use a gun like this if it was up to snuff. For the rest of the military, they're a mix of different people, especially the sort of people that carry a compact SMG/PDW; tank crews, heli crews, rear echelon staff. Most of them are just regular guys, with a smattering of bigger dudes. And regardless of them being brick shithouses, they are usually carrying a shitload of other gear, need to be HIGHLY mobile, and their guns are usually kitted out with scopes, lights, slings, grips etc. and they always opt for guns that are as light as reasonably possible to begin with. MP5, M4, shortened versions of SAWs or the M60, MP7, have all been carried by brick shithouses for the past decades, for their lightness among other factors. There's no shortage of accounts of soldiers modifying their weapons to shave weight off them, lobbying to get lighter weapons as part of standard armament, or buying a lighter personal weapon, in organizations that allow for it. Any brick shithouse operator would attest to this. Just look at how they tailor their loadouts; carefully selecting their gear to be able to carry a variety of tools, made as light as possible while still being sturdy enough to go to hell and back. A heavier gun, means they will have to ditch some ammo, a piece of gear, comfort item etc. in order to keep their mobility. Weight is only good, if it gives you something in return. It would be a detriment to the likelihood of it being adopted, and longevity in service, if it was left as is. The MAC is a great example, but this thing would be sleeker, as the mag doesn't extend down as far, allowing for better positioning while prone, up against cover etc. And compared to the MAC, this doesn't need to be as blocky. It could've easily been slimmed down with a smaller bolt, and less mass over the barrel portion, as the bolt doesn't seem to telescope all the way forward. Which again would make it easier to deal with in tight quarters. If you've ever done CQB, especially indoors, you'd see how much every bit matters.
@@DrakeKillah The only people likely to make use of something like this would be close protection; bodyguards. It's completely unsuitable for issue to army retards.
6:30 -- RE: "Think of it as Smooth Rifling."; One of the words which stuck into my head early in life (I was a Top Trumps fan, maybe that's why...) was Laminar Flow, because of the P-51. Strikes me that would be the advantage of avoiding the grooves in favor of rounded corners. It's the best of both worlds!.
Slap on a foldable stock like a vz.61 and a semi/auto switch and it'd be a pretty neat and compact package for a gun with this high of an ammo capacity. Could even pretty easily make higher capacity mags by just increasing the diameter of the mag.
The fact that it's a pistol with a Bizon-style frontal helical mag reminds me quite a bit of the Lato pistol from Warframe, main difference being that one is entirely a work of fiction.
I owned a Calico M950 for a while. After about 1500 rounds it developed the annoying habit of alternately jamming, or stitching off 2 to 5 round bursts once or twice per magazine.
You know, in the Killzone games the standard Helghast sidearm is a much smaller pistol that has a helical magazine like this but it had a toggle lock action like a Luger does. I never thought somebody actually tried making a real pistol with type of magazine.
...you have the burn pit , bigger than 55 gallon drum size , a boiler with huge safety pop off for pressure relief, so anyway the steam jet hits paddle fins on a rim maybe and that is connected to a heavy solid disc flywheel with bearings , anyway the car alternator is rated for rpm to the hub the friction drive against the flywheel at correct position for maximum output x 4, 5 , ....whatever charge an EV i think , but steam below the flywheel can lift it and act as a semi bearing too....i might acheive backyard powerplant with auxiliary inputs or use for boating ideas too or both some are heavy , stationary charging, others are weight and component saving and run on whatever heat ....
Love your videos, but they are a little dark which makes seeing the details a little difficult. Many thanks for sharing the collection and I am already looking forward to the next video. Take care and stay safe, Joe
would love to see you go through a Luty SMG. it might be a bit of a spicy video, but it has such an interesting history behind it. I know you guys have one lol
There's admittely some design cues from the Jati-Matic SMG. I would think this was originally intended as a sort of a machine pistol, but since nobody really wants those, and they're legally troublesome, they were changed to semi-auto only.
I watched the Hungarian Gunsmith Guy shooting video and all that weight doesn't seem to have reduced muzzle flip. He did seem to be gripping it lightly but it sure seemed to jump a lot.
Hello again, could the Royal Armory please find a light coloured backdrop and some additional lights, it's really hard to actually see what is being discussed... Apart from that it's all great - as ever - but a bit dark (in more ways than one).
C'mon Jonathan. This is an early version of Judge Dredd's pistol. :) The sculptured grip was the first stage towards registering the weapon to the official owner.
"With it's own unique spin" ...I see what you did there. 😎
Hungarian viewer here, never before have i seen or heard about this abomination, thanks for letting us now, we surely did our part in adding to the pool of weird guns.
Keep it up, Jonatan! 👍
Nézd meg a zuhanórepülés című filmet azt hiszem abban van egy jelenet amikor a szerbek ezzel raknak rendet.
When a pistol becomes that big and heavy you have to question why they didn't just make it a submachine gun or carbine
Exactly what I was thinking. It would make more sense to have a shoulder stock and even a longer barrel.
If it was designed for a civilian market, I could see some reasoning for it.
I am by no means a firearms designer or engineer, but I think if I was going to design a firearm with a "gimmick" like this in current-day USA, I would've made a pistol version that could easily converted to a rifle by including a slot someone could engineer a stock for; all someone should need past that is the tax stamp. if it marketed well enough, I could sell models classified as long arms already with 16" barrels and with/without stocks or braces.
This design in the vid isn't far off in scope from Kel-Tec's 50-round P50 pistol.
Bethesda game designers
At over 6lbs fully loaded, you could have an SBR for the same weight
"Jóvanazúgy" mentality?
("Eh whatever, it's fine that way!")
lol
This is the Danuvia VD-01. As the engraving states, it is "Mod. Vörös". Vörös Róbert was a hungarian weapons designer, who lived in Germany, and he experienced with the helical magazines. In 1990, the Danuvia took over his work, and made around 50-60 (maybe 100+) pieces of this firearm, with some changes in the designs, as they are well only prototypes. The firearm was intended to be a weapons family with a submachine gun version as the main product (hence the high magazine capacity), and some other versions, not specified. But as the weapons industry of Hungary was gradually destroyed - the last weapons factory (FÉG) closed it's doors around 2005 - Danuvia Machine Factory ended manufacturing weapons in the mid- end nineties, and did not have the opportunity to evolve the VD-01 past the prototype stage, into a full product.
If the capacity is standard for the model it is not a high capacity magazine, its a standard capacity magazine.
@@TheHaughtyOsprey It's capacity is high for a general handgun. So it is a high capacity magazine.
That’s quite a shame. I’d love to see what this could lead into
It's always a pleasure to see a gun I've never even heard of before. Thanks for sharing it with your audience.
Love how even after being dismantled it was still huge.
I can't hear you over that EM-2 flex in the background.
as an engineer i love these videos about the outside thinking , ok sometimes they just dont work but my goodness the thinking is outstanding
That genuinely looks like a 40k gun.
That's a real hand cannon size gun if I ever saw one
Pistol made for Ogryns
It reminds me of the Helghast pistol from the first Killzone, personally.
@@jedimike7622I noticed it too.
The early Vindicare Assassin pistol looked very similar as I recall. I remember reading a press release from Warhammer way back that it was changed in a subsequent model update because the main criticism from consumers was that it literally looked like a brick.
I'm the one that made the page on the original manufacturer, Danuvia, on Wikipedia!
My own lineage is partly Hungarian so i contacted a relative to ask about any information or translation of the company [unfortunately no], even. Information is incredibly hard to come by on Danuvia, as their most famous line of manufacturing are their motorcycles, before the company dissolved in the late 90s.
Also fun fact: Danuvia was concieved in 1920s post-Trianon Hungary as an attempt to skirt the treaty on limitation of Arms Production.
Second fun fact: The company made the Danuvia 43.M SMG, Danuvia 44 SMG, and the Kucher K1 (Danuvia M53) SMG, of which an M53 K1 was discovered in the Libyan Black Market in 2016 on sale for a few hundred USD. Another was found in Syria with an extremely cut down barrel and stock!
The M53 K1 was abandoned in post-war Hungary however as political influence forced Danuvia to manufacture the PPSh-41 and its derivatives, in order to standardize the Eastern Bloc firearms. The M53 K1 was used until the 1970s, where it was finally sunsetted.
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I'm very surprised Whitworth rifling wasn't mentioned along with it's polygonal ammunition while talking about Polygonal rifling he did do remarkable research into the subject .
Suffering a bit from black gun on a black background syndrome here. It's cool to see Jonathan sitting within the collection but these videos would often be clearer if we had a lighter coloured backdrop for the gun itself. When you showed us the sights it was pretty much impossible to make anything out at all.
This channel would benefit from a lesson or two on how to film firearms from Ian of Forgotten Weapons
Yes!!!! For people who may be viewing this on their phones. It’s really hard to see this unique content you’re sharing here. Please crank up the lights or get a light colored table cloth
Thank god, thought my eyesight was going.
Check your device screen or your eyesight lol
Great content ... please improve lighting and macro lens lighting so we can see in greater detail. Mainly listening rather than viewing. Thanks
12:06 The lack of a telescoping bolt at such a late date is truly surprising! Although, to be fair, the whole disassembly procedure here looks like the designer missed significant parts of postwar automatic weapons development, which one may expect of a firearms brand that went dormant in the mid-'40s.
16:15 So that's why they went for FRG made barrels when they had FEG for that at home!
This needs to be in a video game as a machine pistol.
This would make a good star wars blaster
Wow this is really cool didn't know anyone ever did a helical mag for a pistol.
Been waiting to see this one on any channel online. Thank you again Jonathan for shedding some light on it.
It's so big, it would probably do as much damage bludgeoning enemies to death as it would shooting them.
It's like a borderlands gun. When you run out of ammo, you just chuck it like a brick at the enemy and then pull out your next gun brick, lol
@@MrAdamArce it is literally an IRL Tediore, you're right!
not gone lie its blocky design kinda reminds me of the various stubbers "cased ammo" and autoguns "caseless ammo" from really early warhammer 40k artwork circa rouge trader era to 3rd and 4th editions.
Legit looks like something a low level hive ganger in necromunda would be packing as a PDW.
As a Calico owner, I found this video veryyyyyyy interesting.
A quick hint for German pronunciation: the TH (as in Lothar and Walther) is pronounced like a normal T.
Or like breathing out after the t but mostly silent
Such a funky design, I love it
according to the hungarian wikipedia, there were a full auto prototype, but never made it to production.
And my suggestion for a review would be the Zylab Patriot muzzle loading pistol. This was designed specifically to be able to compete in UIT centrefire matches after the general UK handgun ban.
Somewhere there's a very angry Space Marine who lost his sidearm...
This would fit right in the Robocop universe
Absolutely
How has this not been used in a movie??...
First time ever you were glad to have a VD
That thing belongs in games, scifi, everything -
Looks a lot like the Wilkinson Arms Linda. Same 80's sci-fi aesthetic.
It kinda does! Just square, instead of rounded. Both look kind of goofy, but I like both lol.
I would love to see you cover Brandin Herrera’s Ak-50 and see you’re thoughts on it. Plus I know he would love to pick your brain about tons of historic guns
I got VD once. Man did it itch and burn!
Someone adapting this to a videogame/sci-fi movie in 3... 2...
i like it looks like something youd find in halo or maybe wh40k and i bet all that weight it has is great for low recoil. one could probably make one of those designed to use some high caliber rounds and still be pretty accurate with it when firing.
I think it would be perfect for cyberpunk
It feels to me like with some slight changes (telescoping bolt, folding/collapsible stock) it could actually have been a decent little SMG or PDW (if in 7.62 Tokarev).
you just invented a pp-19 in a larger calibre, which as a proven weapon, would be much easier to convert
Lucasfilm and Disney should really get in touch with Johnathan; I swear every other video or every third video, he comes out with a weapon that looks like it should belong in the Star Wars universe or at least would fit right in lol.
Not the sort of racket where Kennedyfilm and Bysmally do what they ought to
@@TheSundayShooter Indeed, I would hope that he would only work with Filoni and Company.
Star Wars deliberately chose weapons from the first half of the 20th century to convert to props so as to provide the rustic space western feel we know the franchise for. This is much more Robocop or Judge Dredd's speed
@@CrizzyEyes I don’t doubt that that’s true, but they’ve definitely fallen off of the wagon since the Disney acquisition; I mean, the “AK gaffe” in Andor was just weak and lazy. Something like the firearm in the video would be impressive even for Star Wars now.
@@andydaniels3029 I just assumed that the Disney movies weren't even in the equation. I've already forgotten most of what happens in them
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I see Jonathan, I click.
Judge Dredd wants his hand canon back.
Awesome gun. Now all there's left is to figure out anti-gravity tech, so it can be aimed properly.
Power armour time lol
This is a really cool looking gun, I'm shocked i haven't seen it in a video game or movie
It was the inspiration for the Helghast sidearm in Killzone if that counts. That's what made me aware of this pistol when I was a kid.
@@Slivyrif only it were as elegant as an STA-18 pistol.
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That pistol would be a nice SciFi pistol with a few adjustments ...
Calico has improved the reliability of their helical magazines. Still questionable if I'd rely on one for life and limb, but better.
I like 👍 royal armery been there like your video,s well done
If i remember right, the word " Vörös " on the pistol is the family name of its designer. " Vörös " means " Red " in the Hungarian language.
what a bizarre and interesting weapon! The design of the drum is fantastic. I'm wondering if the designer didn't just work in another field, saw the drum design for another purpose, like an industrial design, and jumped in with both feet. It would explain the almost memetic design of the gun overall: big black stamped steel brick with almost nothing on the inside, with this magazine. If you never made guns and subsisted on a diet of imported actions movies, I could imagine an unexperienced engineer making something like this. If this thing had a stock, I could imagine it being very popular in some weird regime or locale.
Thanks for sharing!
Aside from the drum mag it's a fairly standard design for a machine pistol. Maybe rely less on your imagination.
You have to remember that this is a prototype. It was blocky because they were keeping things simple until everything was dialed in, especially the helical mag. No point in spending a ton of money having beautiful tooling made for the prototype, then having to discard all of it after refining the design. Kinda sad it didn't make it, it could've been a really sleek SMG in the same class as the MP5k for example, perfect for protection details, tank crews and the likes. Once refined, it would've been very manouverable, without a stick mag to get caught on stuff.
@@DrakeKillah It's no more blocky than a MAC or an Uzi, and there's no junk hanging off the side to get caught on stuff. You could probably make a few lightening cuts but if it's a machine pistol designed to be carried by brick shithouses, why bother. Weight is good.
@@chaimafaghet7343 That's the thing though... This would not really be carried by brick shithouses... Brick shithouses in the military being special forces, which might use a gun like this if it was up to snuff. For the rest of the military, they're a mix of different people, especially the sort of people that carry a compact SMG/PDW; tank crews, heli crews, rear echelon staff. Most of them are just regular guys, with a smattering of bigger dudes.
And regardless of them being brick shithouses, they are usually carrying a shitload of other gear, need to be HIGHLY mobile, and their guns are usually kitted out with scopes, lights, slings, grips etc. and they always opt for guns that are as light as reasonably possible to begin with. MP5, M4, shortened versions of SAWs or the M60, MP7, have all been carried by brick shithouses for the past decades, for their lightness among other factors. There's no shortage of accounts of soldiers modifying their weapons to shave weight off them, lobbying to get lighter weapons as part of standard armament, or buying a lighter personal weapon, in organizations that allow for it.
Any brick shithouse operator would attest to this. Just look at how they tailor their loadouts; carefully selecting their gear to be able to carry a variety of tools, made as light as possible while still being sturdy enough to go to hell and back. A heavier gun, means they will have to ditch some ammo, a piece of gear, comfort item etc. in order to keep their mobility. Weight is only good, if it gives you something in return.
It would be a detriment to the likelihood of it being adopted, and longevity in service, if it was left as is.
The MAC is a great example, but this thing would be sleeker, as the mag doesn't extend down as far, allowing for better positioning while prone, up against cover etc. And compared to the MAC, this doesn't need to be as blocky. It could've easily been slimmed down with a smaller bolt, and less mass over the barrel portion, as the bolt doesn't seem to telescope all the way forward. Which again would make it easier to deal with in tight quarters. If you've ever done CQB, especially indoors, you'd see how much every bit matters.
@@DrakeKillah The only people likely to make use of something like this would be close protection; bodyguards. It's completely unsuitable for issue to army retards.
Well, as Boris said "If it doesn't work, you can always hit him with it."
it needs to have some sort of counterweight on the back to make it easier to aim
I think that "smooth rifling" should be the tecnical term to use. It is rifled, yes, but if you feel the inside of the barrel it is also smooth.
the buffer can also reduce the fire rate/and ipacts to the rear trunion
Looks like a warhammer PDW
AFAIK Gen 5 Glocks also have a type of polygonal rifling. The buzz words they're using are "Glock Marksman Barrel", if someone wants to look it up.
6:30 -- RE: "Think of it as Smooth Rifling."; One of the words which stuck into my head early in life (I was a Top Trumps fan, maybe that's why...) was Laminar Flow, because of the P-51. Strikes me that would be the advantage of avoiding the grooves in favor of rounded corners. It's the best of both worlds!.
Really love to see Ian McCollum do a video on this.
i was JUST visiting the museum at Leeds for a full day, but wasen't able to locate this one ;)
in which section could i have found these modern rarities?
This is why I love being American. GUNS, GUNS, GUNS. They're so much fun to build and shoot. Got 94 and counting!
Almost has futuristic revolver vibes. Very cool
this is relevant to my interests
This feels like it could be a isometric era Fallout gun.
My god all the guns in that room!
Slap on a foldable stock like a vz.61 and a semi/auto switch and it'd be a pretty neat and compact package for a gun with this high of an ammo capacity. Could even pretty easily make higher capacity mags by just increasing the diameter of the mag.
If it looks like a gun that belongs in RoboCop, then I'm all for it.
Awesome gun. It could be 5000 rnd between cleans possibly. Very cool 👍😎👍
Really cool. My wife's family comes from Hungary so this caught my eye. Always love guns we don't typically see in the west or rather America.
This looks like a potential H3VR update gun.
Kinda hard to see since everything is dark
The fact that it's a pistol with a Bizon-style frontal helical mag reminds me quite a bit of the Lato pistol from Warframe, main difference being that one is entirely a work of fiction.
I owned a Calico M950 for a while. After about 1500 rounds it developed the annoying habit of alternately jamming, or stitching off 2 to 5 round bursts once or twice per magazine.
I bet this gun was a source of inspiration for the Lawgiver pistol that Judge Dredd uses.
This looks like a fun weapon
Danuvia sounds like a really good name for a high end clothing brand.
Does the Armory have an FGC-9? Would be curious to see Jonathan look at it
It looks like a mac-10 upper on a Vz.61 skorpion lower with the pp-19 bizon magazine. Is nice I like.
Dark weapon, dark background, dark suit. ... a little bit hard to see detail, gentlemen.
That looks a Lot like Alyx's gun in Half-Life 2, I would not be surprised if this is the firearm it was based off of.
You know, in the Killzone games the standard Helghast sidearm is a much smaller pistol that has a helical magazine like this but it had a toggle lock action like a Luger does. I never thought somebody actually tried making a real pistol with type of magazine.
Everything Helgan has a helical magazine.
I love that Hungarian firearms are gaining popularity
Obviously, it has been designed as a back-up weapon for 40mm China Lake Pumpaction Shotgun wielding Space Marines.. not for ordinairy humans. XD
First thing that came to mind is how perfect this gun would be to decorate and make it look like a 40K bolter.
Looks like someone with a strong distaste for their fellow man Frankenstein'd a CZ-75 into a Hi Point carbine upper. Fascinating.
...you have the burn pit , bigger than 55 gallon drum size , a boiler with huge safety pop off for pressure relief, so anyway the steam jet hits paddle fins on a rim maybe and that is connected to a heavy solid disc flywheel with bearings , anyway the car alternator is rated for rpm to the hub the friction drive against the flywheel at correct position for maximum output x 4, 5 , ....whatever charge an EV i think , but steam below the flywheel can lift it and act as a semi bearing too....i might acheive backyard powerplant with auxiliary inputs or use for boating ideas too or both some are heavy , stationary charging, others are weight and component saving and run on whatever heat ....
Can you ask your camera man to up the ISO a bit? It cant be seen as it's rather dark, lol
"Look out, he's got a gun!"
"That's not a gun. THIS... is a gun."
nice brick
12:59 That is genuinely a breech *BLOCK* alright.
Love your videos, but they are a little dark which makes seeing the details a little difficult.
Many thanks for sharing the collection and I am already looking forward to the next video.
Take care and stay safe,
Joe
I am convinced he does these in front of a rack of EM-2 rifles to make us jealous.
would love to see you go through a Luty SMG. it might be a bit of a spicy video, but it has such an interesting history behind it. I know you guys have one lol
and at 2:00 the reason I am here..Just watched Garand thumb Talk about the PP-19 Bizon. lol!
Feels like something perfect at home in the robocop or judge dread universe.
FX Airguns have developed the polygonal barrel "smoth twist", it is quite good.
could do with a wire stock, unless you were to hold it by the magazine ,like a fore-end?
There's admittely some design cues from the Jati-Matic SMG. I would think this was originally intended as a sort of a machine pistol, but since nobody really wants those, and they're legally troublesome, they were changed to semi-auto only.
it probably could be more viable with use of plastics... but it will still be really heavy up forward.
I watched the Hungarian Gunsmith Guy shooting video and all that weight doesn't seem to have reduced muzzle flip. He did seem to be gripping it lightly but it sure seemed to jump a lot.
Hello again, could the Royal Armory please find a light coloured backdrop and some additional lights, it's really hard to actually see what is being discussed... Apart from that it's all great - as ever - but a bit dark (in more ways than one).
Throw a folding stock and a selector switch on it, and I could see it being a lot of fun.
Ive only ever heard of these. Mostly from SF units in Europe. Always wanted to see one, now i wanna touch it 😮
Damn, if ever I was to make a weird psuedo futuristic game that would have to be in as a starter handgun
C'mon Jonathan. This is an early version of Judge Dredd's pistol. :) The sculptured grip was the first stage towards registering the weapon to the official owner.
are those a bunch of EM-2s in the background?