@@Hm32271 There's this "new thing" called the internet and this strange place where you can just input something and information will arrive - not all of it correct but you can separate the wheat from the chaff - GOOGLE it..
I’ve been using the same chippy for 35 years! Seen three families come and go and it’s still going strong. My Dad used to take me there and now I take my daughter. The aromas still invoke happy childhood memories.
Yes! I was just starting secondary school around then and remember my parents watching his programmes. There was also Cliffe Michelmore, a co presenter of the programme I think.
Television has no room for journalists like Fyfe Robertson anymore nor room, sadly, for this kind of gentle, enquiring reportage. He is delightfully idiosyncratic here and brilliant to watch.
I remember fish and chips being wrapped in newspaper right up until the mid-late 1980's. Just the thought of that extra dimension the newspaper gave to the fish and chips aroma makes me salivate even now all these years later.
@@reknakfarg It'd be fair to say that newspapers were 'sometimes' used on the outside but 'only ever' is quite a statement - and an inaccurate one at that. Many (not quite 'most', but not far off) places North of the Midlands and West of Stratford used newspaper exclusively.
Fish and Chips is just so comforting to eat. I grew up as a kid in the late 80s and early 90s, and dad always ate it on Friday nights. I continue that tradition now
Fyffe Robertson always a treat to listen to back in the day and now ! Shame he wasn't around to do an " audio book , " What a joy that would have been !
"No, I didn't serve in the shop. It wasn't a shop." "No! No! No." "No, no. They didn't take it home." "No, no, ye didnae peel 'em." Mr. De Gernier was a tough interviewee.
Born in Gateshead in 1960. My old man said there were two fish and chip shops on our street. Top and bottom. I recall in the early 70s there were still lots of Fish and chip shops in my town. Sadly many have disappeared. We have one old hold out on Durham rd who's shop has been there since 1953. Visochis. They still do an excellent fish and chips. Bless them.
@0:32 Chips in 1964 not being wrapped in old newspapers? Where i'm from i remember that still happened in the early 90s. Ahead of their time this chip shop was.
Fascinating how portion sizes have changed. I watched some old newsreel from the late 60's where a chip-shop owner was moaning because he'd had to increase the portion size for fish from 4 to 6 ounces (110-170g) because people said the traditional 4 ounce portion didn't fill them up anymore. 'Large' is the smallest portion at my local chippy at 9 ounces (244g); that's 2.5 times the normal portion of 60 years ago. I can't help but wonder if this was the start of the obesity epidemic?
I grew up in Dundee during late 60s and 70s. We ate fish and chips wrapped in newspapers, preferably The Courier. We also ate with our fingers. I remember pea and bean busters, mock chops,white pudding and banana fritters. The Deep Sea in Nethergate was our favourite. Its now renamed. Not the same.
Please oh please describe some of these things. I can't find Pea and Bean buster on google. And what was mock chops made from? I love to hear about what people ate when they were kids.
@@coffeebot3000 A Buster was chips served with beans or peas. A mock chop was a lump of mechanically recovered meat, shaped like a chop, hence the name. They also did deep fried pizza. We used to fold it in half, and fill it with chips, and eat it like a kebab.
There was a fish and chips shop - Pat and Hank's - in Windsor, Ontario, Canada, at least by 1963. (It may have been founded earlier than that - I was a very young nipper and don't recall its founding.) And yes, there was newspaper wrapping. And as far as I know, most of the traditionalists in Canada use salt and vinegar (in fact, I remember a huge discussion of the relative merits of malt versus clear vinegar). Some johnny-come-latelies use ketchup - we tolerate them.
As a kid in the 60s I would get into terrible trouble if I sprinkled salt over my food, whatever the food was. The only polite way to do it according to my mother was to pour a little heap onto the plate and dip your food in it. I could never understand why my friends sprinkled instead.
We enjoy these while still in living memory. I can imagine people living 100 years hence for whom even now is like ancient history. Yet we can hear and see them speak.
I remember certainly up until about 1999 getting a chippy wrapped in yesterday's news... Granted it was in a tiny negligible square of greaseproof then wrapped in yesterday's unsold news... But there's something *seriously* sentimental about _"that smell"_ from when the steam from your beef drip chips hits that printers ink and spreads to the surroundings 🤤🤤🤤 Carcinogenic or not... That's a smell from childhood my brain is subliminally tuned to!!!
Last time i saw the buster stall 1961 tent roof with wooden long tables and chairs no backs , it was quite busy just by long lane and overgate chips and peas ,and teas a long time a go
Fyfe was true 'old school'. Prior to salt shakers, salt was served in a..........wait for it...........a 'salt'. A salt was normally silver, about the size of a Bluebell Matchbox and it had a Bristol blue glass liner so as to protect the silver from tarnish. Hope I'm not boring you too much as there's more! There was a tiny wee silver spoon that sat in the salt and you placed a small amount of salt on your plate and whenever something needed salted, you used the tip of your knife to move it on to the piece of meat for example. It was never spread about your food as it may not all have required salt. Salt was very expensive and way back in the day, Roman soldiers were paid in salt! Hence the saying, 'he's worth his salt' (his salary/wage). Now I'm off to do a nice plate of chips for my lunch!
Salary comes from the Latin word salarium, which also means "salary" and has the Salary comes from the Latin word salarium, which also means "salary" and has the root sal, or "salt." In ancient Rome, it specifically meant the amount of money allotted to a Roman soldier to buy salt, which was an expensive but essential commodity. root sal, or "salt." In ancient Rome, it specifically meant the amount of money allotted to a Roman soldier to buy salt, which was an expensive but essential commodity.
Pop Belli and his sons, Jimmy and Freddy were the first chippies I remember, situated at the top of Lilybank Rd. facing 'The Glebelands' school, my parents would send me over to Belli's for 'Two two's' yes fourpence worth of chips, that did us along with whatever was for tea, fish, luncheon meat, corned beef and if you were lucky a fried egg. Belli's were the closest to us but not much further was 'Ben Soave's across from 'The Royalty Kinema [spelling correct,] it had 'KINEMA' up along with the name and owned by a Mr. Pennycook.The Soave's had a famous Son of Dundee called Ciano, short for Luciano who would, in the sixties, open a famous Dundee meeting place for teenagers, The Haparanda, usually just called the 'Hap.' Chano, as we called him would employ up and coming Dundee 'Beat Groups' as they were called then, who went on to play around Dundee, Scotland, and some of them venturing across the chanel to Germany where they did exactly what 'The Beatles' did, bringing their music to the youth of Germany, they would play the very latest music which was in the charts at the time, and, although they never made the fame of the Liverpool bands, they did well enough to go full time into the music business, and made good money playing around the clubs and pubs in Dundee, at that time, Dundee had an abundance of them. Chano even met The Queen' at Holyrood, "No bad for a Dundee Chippy'
Must admit I was surprised to learn you got chips served in cartons and got tomato sauce in sachets as early as 1964.Mustve been quite advanced in Dundee ..I remember getting chips in news paper well into the 70s
By the time this was filmed The Great British Chippy was celebrating 104 years. The first chippy being opened in London in 1860. Three years later the first chip shop in Manchester was opened, not closing down until 1972. Just after the war, 1946, my Grandad Harry and Nanna Daisy bought a fish and chip shop in Morecambe, Barrow House Chippy on Pedder St. My Mum recalls supplying, and delivering by the way, well ahead of their time, the Winter Garden theatre cast and crew, after their last performance and clearing up and finishing for the night, at 1 or 2 in the morning, 60 portions of fish and chips for the princely sum of £3. 15 shillings. For those not old enough to work it out, that comes to 1s and 3d for a portion of fish and chips. Oh, how times have changed. (and NOT for the better.) Happier Days.
growing up in the north (during the 80's ) fish and chips were wrapped in a bit of butchers paper and then swaddled in old newspapers! can still smell the ink.
The first fish and chip shop opened in London in around 1880 the first curry house was 1830 ( I may have the dates slightly off) curry is more British and fish and chips.
It's odd, but when I was a nipper in Birmingham, in the early 70's, we got our chips wrapped in old newspapers - I don't recall any paper containers. Yes, we would put it all in a bag to take home, but it would still be wrapped in newspaper. Perhaps it was regional or perhaps newsprint paper came back into fashion. That wrapping didn't last long though - but we still get our chips wrapped in the same type of paper, just without the print.
Wrapping chips in newspaper died out when printing presses started buying back unsold copies and recycling them. That started in the 70s on a mass scale, so it probably varied by area whether newspaper was used or not.
You just cant go wrong with a Fyfe report. Brilliant stuff. 0:30 is fascinating, compare that to how we gorge now. Although maybe Scotland is like Northern Ireland. When you order just a fish here, you always get a wee sprinkling of chips. Not like those tight fisted English lol We never used to peel potatoes either when i started my first temp job as a 15 yr old in 1987 we washed them white too...the man at 3:05 in the background is like a spectre from the past. I love thinking like this. Like who decided we could go from a cow, to a meat pie, or a stew. Or a lamb, to shepherds pie. All those ingredients and ideas evolving... Fascinating. (just so you all know I'm not looking for anyone to mansplain the answers to my questions).
Waxing poetic about fish and chips. They don't make TV like this any more. But of course now we have UA-cam. But there you have to find it. This got served to you :)
The Scots do a good chippy not going to lie - whenever Man United draw a Scottish team, I always have a chip shop supper before I head back south to north Manchester.
Not related to a Gaz Winstanley by any chance? If so, and from round Swinton way - one of our locals was a Chinese Chippy called Ruby's. Loved that place as a kid.
To be fair, if the fish cost what it cost then I'd be alright with a dozen chips. A fish went from about 90p to about £1.80 between 1986 and 2000, and we had some proper inflation in the first few years of that. By 2016 it cost a fiver or more, don't even buy it now, it's not worth it.
In fact, every chippy I visited between ~1980 and 2000 had the newspaper wrappings. Always found it odd at age four to be greeted by a pair of page three boobies wrapping a piece of cod!
Made me think about the phrase that indicates someone's inability to find a partner on a Friday night in Scotland: "Chips and hame." Buy chips. Go home. Alone. 😆😆😆
I'm from the US. I wondered in the UK, is there a specific fish that's usually used, or does that vary by region? Or do some of these shops have a choice of different fish?
@@katethomas5712 OK, thanks. Where I live the most popular fish is probably flounder or salmon, but cod is pretty easy to find. The fresh water fish we like are trout, catfish, crappie, and bass.
@@katethomas5712 Crappie are in lakes and ponds and are a type of sunfish like large mouth bass and bluegill. They are delicious fried! We pretty much fry everything up in the south, lol. I'm in North Carolina.
In Scotland you're much more likely to get haddock as the fish in a fish supper (what we call fish with chips), whereas it's more commonly cod elsewhere.
If you think of Dundee as it is today but in the middle of the 1800's it was one of the most industrious trading cities in Britain so it makes sense that some new grub from elsewhere might get served here first.
Paper mache tray in 1964 ... then we moved to that awful polystyrene . Now we see polystyrene as quite terrible because of it gassing off and tainting our food and not decomposing ...we are going back to compressed paper mache trays which people are wondering "why didn't we do this before" WE DID and this video proves it. Important that we retain older technologies , some older technologies that is ...I'm not referring to the wee plastic sauce pot either!. Fascinating film .
Fyfe Robertson's eating and chatting for the camera is as natural as eating lunch with an old friend. Brilliant.
Eloquent ..informative unlike some reporters today !
@@luiathmorgan7709one of the very best
some of the earliest mukbangs ever printed to film
Fyfe Robertson was truly the best.
Who?
@@Hm32271
There's this "new thing" called the internet and this strange place where you can just input something and information will arrive - not all of it correct but you can separate the wheat from the chaff - GOOGLE it..
Happy days when the BBC represents its audience
Proper Scottish accent, that. Superb. Dundee’s a great wee city.
I’ve been using the same chippy for 35 years! Seen three families come and go and it’s still going strong. My Dad used to take me there and now I take my daughter. The aromas still invoke happy childhood memories.
When an older family member would be unhappy about certain things reported in the newspaper, they would grumble,
"..Only good for wrapping chips in!"
Yep. People would say “bloody rag, I wouldn’t wrap my chips in it”.
today's news is tomorrow's chip paper
Reminds me of a quote by Shakespeare when he describes some of the soulless romantic novels as “ to be fit only for bum fodder”
There wasn't really such a thing as novels in Shakespeare's time.
Good one that is 😂😂😂
I would be fuming with that portion of fish and chips in the first clip!
I love these old videos.
Fyffe Robertson was terrific
Yes! I was just starting secondary school around then and remember my parents watching his programmes. There was also Cliffe Michelmore, a co presenter of the programme I think.
I could listen to this gentleman expound on anything all day. Just great.
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Portions have definitely grown since this was filmed.
So have people's waistlines, unfortunately.
Agree. I’m a big guy, but the amount of chips you get in a supper is ridiculous. Half as many would be just fine.
So interesting to see
So has the price?
@ Definitely!
Television has no room for journalists like Fyfe Robertson anymore nor room, sadly, for this kind of gentle, enquiring reportage. He is delightfully idiosyncratic here and brilliant to watch.
I agree but are you like 80
@@Malcolm-c5b I am 60, which is just old enough to remember Fyfe Robertson on television and TV programming like this.
@@markhayward7400 I’m not English so I didn’t know how much longer he lasted after this video career wise
@user-mb4qs7tg8d Fyfe Robertson was on TV in the UK fairly regularly until the late 1970s. Certainly, as a teenager I can remember watching him.
@@markhayward7400 what’s your favourite story he did?
I remember fish and chips being wrapped in newspaper right up until the mid-late 1980's. Just the thought of that extra dimension the newspaper gave to the fish and chips aroma makes me salivate even now all these years later.
newspapers where only ever used on the outside, the chips themselves where wrapped in clean paper as you see in the video
Mid 90’s it was
@@Carsonktm420Only as far as the 80s in the area where I grew up.
@@reknakfarg It'd be fair to say that newspapers were 'sometimes' used on the outside but 'only ever' is quite a statement - and an inaccurate one at that. Many (not quite 'most', but not far off) places North of the Midlands and West of Stratford used newspaper exclusively.
Unfortunately this presenter is before my time but i think he is the best presenter ive ever watched.
I remember Fyfe on the tv as though it was yesterday ........ never missed his programme. He was a complete down to earth natural😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
“In recent times you think of Mods & Rockers etc “ 😂❤
It's interesting seeing the world my old man grew up in. I wish I could have experienced it.
Fyfe Robertson always held my interest as a young teenager watching ‘Tonight’ and other programmes.
Fyfe Robertson, the national treasure of his day - ! 😊
My wife a Dundonian herself, reckons that he was 'awfy posh' when she watched the video - ! 😆
@@simongee8928aye, he sounds english
Considering he was an Edinburgh man, but they do sound posh in comparison - ! 😅
Been binge-watching these BBC Archive Episodes. Fantastic.
This might be one of the most entertaining things I've ever watched.
Fish and Chips is just so comforting to eat. I grew up as a kid in the late 80s and early 90s, and dad always ate it on Friday nights. I continue that tradition now
I have NEVER seen anyone pour salt of the side of chips and use it as a dip before until today 😂
My grandparents use to do that. I guess it comes from people who were born in the early 1900's
Apparently royal etiquette is that you put a teaspoon of salt on the plate and dip the food
Same here lol
He was a cultured man.
Grand parents did it.
Fyffe Robertson always a treat to listen to back in the day and now !
Shame he wasn't around to do an " audio book , " What a joy that would have been !
"No, I didn't serve in the shop. It wasn't a shop."
"No! No! No."
"No, no. They didn't take it home."
"No, no, ye didnae peel 'em."
Mr. De Gernier was a tough interviewee.
Maybe should have done his homework? 😂
@@stepheng8779 Typical BBC interviewer.
Fact checking at its finest
Well the interviewer should of done a bit more research.
@@stepheng8779... He was On His Way To "THE THISTLE" 😂😂😂😂
Fyfe Robertson is only 62 in this report. He died in 1987 at the age of 84
blimey. he looks 75
Wonderful rich voice and snippet of a long lost world I miss so dearly 😢
Born in Gateshead in 1960. My old man said there were two fish and chip shops on our street. Top and bottom. I recall in the early 70s there were still lots of Fish and chip shops in my town. Sadly many have disappeared. We have one old hold out on Durham rd who's shop has been there since 1953. Visochis. They still do an excellent fish and chips. Bless them.
M&M' s was the best chippy in Gateshead.
At this point in time my mother was walking around Paisley Scotland pregnant - I was soon to arrive in february 1965!
I'm February 65. What date?
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In 1995 when I was at Uni I would get F&C regularly late at night from a tiny shop on Blackness Rd, Dundee. Great memory
The Victor
You have to say the presenters then were another level from todays clowns. Fyfe's dulcet tones are delightful.
Dude your rose tinned glasses are blinding at this point.
@@tmarritt No, you're just a contrarian. When looking at a rose one calls it a rose. They WERE better back then, it's simply a fact.
I rember fish and chips in newspaper in ireland around 1990😂
@0:32 Chips in 1964 not being wrapped in old newspapers? Where i'm from i remember that still happened in the early 90s. Ahead of their time this chip shop was.
I remember seeing the "buster stalls" in Kirk Wynd, behind the Overgate, in Dundee. That would be in the 1950s.
Fascinating how portion sizes have changed. I watched some old newsreel from the late 60's where a chip-shop owner was moaning because he'd had to increase the portion size for fish from 4 to 6 ounces (110-170g) because people said the traditional 4 ounce portion didn't fill them up anymore. 'Large' is the smallest portion at my local chippy at 9 ounces (244g); that's 2.5 times the normal portion of 60 years ago.
I can't help but wonder if this was the start of the obesity epidemic?
a bit of people flocking in, a bit of deflation and a bit of capitalism
Watching this is like going into a time machine.
I grew up in Dundee during late 60s and 70s. We ate fish and chips wrapped in newspapers, preferably The Courier. We also ate with our fingers.
I remember pea and bean busters, mock chops,white pudding and banana fritters.
The Deep Sea in Nethergate was our favourite. Its now renamed. Not the same.
Please oh please describe some of these things. I can't find Pea and Bean buster on google. And what was mock chops made from? I love to hear about what people ate when they were kids.
@@coffeebot3000 A Buster was chips served with beans or peas. A mock chop was a lump of mechanically recovered meat, shaped like a chop, hence the name. They also did deep fried pizza. We used to fold it in half, and fill it with chips, and eat it like a kebab.
@@DasTubemeister Thanks. I could go for a nice buster.
Sounds like an ass buster
@@fellspoint9364Or an ass bulger if you eat more than you should.
0:31 if someone gave me that amount of chips, i'd be saying 'Oi Pal! Can i get some chips with these chips please?!"
I wish you could still get portions that small. I ask my local chippy for a small chips and it’s still huge
There was a fish and chips shop - Pat and Hank's - in Windsor, Ontario, Canada, at least by 1963. (It may have been founded earlier than that - I was a very young nipper and don't recall its founding.)
And yes, there was newspaper wrapping. And as far as I know, most of the traditionalists in Canada use salt and vinegar (in fact, I remember a huge discussion of the relative merits of malt versus clear vinegar). Some johnny-come-latelies use ketchup - we tolerate them.
In the 70s and 80s our chip shop wrapped them in newspaper. Had a lovely smell
Fantastic
Brilliant stuff
0:30 - Find it fascinating that the portions (especially chips) back then were tiny compared to today.
I can count only 20 chips being served.
Love this. Although Dundee was obviously light years ahead. We we still getting fish n chips in newspaper until 20 years ago in Yorkshire
The most shocking thing to me was watching him put salt on the side of his plate and dip chips in it 🤯
As a kid in the 60s I would get into terrible trouble if I sprinkled salt over my food, whatever the food was. The only polite way to do it according to my mother was to pour a little heap onto the plate and dip your food in it. I could never understand why my friends sprinkled instead.
Apparently it's still royal etiquette to put a little on the side of the plate and dip
I just got to that bit and thought the same thing 😂
We enjoy these while still in living memory.
I can imagine people living 100 years hence for whom even now is like ancient history. Yet we can hear and see them speak.
I always eat fish and chips when I come to England! Greetings from Sweden!
Oh my what a beautiful sight.
"...away back in these times there was only one class, the very poor class!" Spoken with Scots candour!
I loved his accent
I remember certainly up until about 1999 getting a chippy wrapped in yesterday's news... Granted it was in a tiny negligible square of greaseproof then wrapped in yesterday's unsold news... But there's something *seriously* sentimental about _"that smell"_ from when the steam from your beef drip chips hits that printers ink and spreads to the surroundings 🤤🤤🤤 Carcinogenic or not... That's a smell from childhood my brain is subliminally tuned to!!!
0:30 easy on the chips there
The time when the BBC was watchable.
Never mind on you Tube, this should be rebroadcast on the telly!
Agreed
Last time i saw the buster stall 1961 tent roof with wooden long tables and chairs no backs , it was quite busy just by long lane and overgate chips and peas ,and teas a long time a go
Did he just pour a pile of salt and dip the chips in it?
Fyfe was true 'old school'. Prior to salt shakers, salt was served in a..........wait for it...........a 'salt'. A salt was normally silver, about the size of a Bluebell Matchbox and it had a Bristol blue glass liner so as to protect the silver from tarnish. Hope I'm not boring you too much as there's more! There was a tiny wee silver spoon that sat in the salt and you placed a small amount of salt on your plate and whenever something needed salted, you used the tip of your knife to move it on to the piece of meat for example. It was never spread about your food as it may not all have required salt. Salt was very expensive and way back in the day, Roman soldiers were paid in salt! Hence the saying, 'he's worth his salt' (his salary/wage). Now I'm off to do a nice plate of chips for my lunch!
@@chelamcguire Salts have been around since the 16th century. Wonder when someone sprinkled rather than dipped for the first time?
He also had a good run of rationing during the war I'm sure. Good way to not use too much salt.
Salary comes from the Latin word salarium, which also means "salary" and has the Salary comes from the Latin word salarium, which also means "salary" and has the root sal, or "salt." In ancient Rome, it specifically meant the amount of money allotted to a Roman soldier to buy salt, which was an expensive but essential commodity. root sal, or "salt." In ancient Rome, it specifically meant the amount of money allotted to a Roman soldier to buy salt, which was an expensive but essential commodity.
The past is a foreign country…
As a kid I remember getting my chippy wrapped in newspaper, and that was in the early 2000s haha
Fife and Alan Whicker ! When telly worth watching 😊
Pop Belli and his sons, Jimmy and Freddy were the first chippies I remember, situated at the top of Lilybank Rd. facing 'The Glebelands' school, my parents would send me over to Belli's for 'Two two's' yes fourpence worth of chips, that did us along with whatever was for tea, fish, luncheon meat, corned beef and if you were lucky a fried egg. Belli's were the closest to us but not much further was 'Ben Soave's across from 'The Royalty Kinema [spelling correct,] it had 'KINEMA' up along with the name and owned by a Mr. Pennycook.The Soave's had a famous Son of Dundee called Ciano, short for Luciano who would, in the sixties, open a famous Dundee meeting place for teenagers, The Haparanda, usually just called the 'Hap.' Chano, as we called him would employ up and coming Dundee 'Beat Groups' as they were called then, who went on to play around Dundee, Scotland, and some of them venturing across the chanel to Germany where they did exactly what 'The Beatles' did, bringing their music to the youth of Germany, they would play the very latest music which was in the charts at the time, and, although they never made the fame of the Liverpool bands, they did well enough to go full time into the music business, and made good money playing around the clubs and pubs in Dundee, at that time, Dundee had an abundance of them. Chano even met The Queen' at Holyrood, "No bad for a Dundee Chippy'
Fish and chips cooked in beef dripping, delicious.
I miss the days when I was a lad afterschool. We’d get a cone of chips for 70p and a fluorescent coloured fizzy beverage to wash it all down with.
They knew how to make Fish and chips back in the days.
Must admit I was surprised to learn you got chips served in cartons and got tomato sauce in sachets as early as 1964.Mustve been quite advanced in Dundee ..I remember getting chips in news paper well into the 70s
By the time this was filmed The Great British Chippy was celebrating 104 years. The first chippy being opened in London in 1860. Three years later the first chip shop in Manchester was opened, not closing down until 1972. Just after the war, 1946, my Grandad Harry and Nanna Daisy bought a fish and chip shop in Morecambe, Barrow House Chippy on Pedder St. My Mum recalls supplying, and delivering by the way, well ahead of their time, the Winter Garden theatre cast and crew, after their last performance and clearing up and finishing for the night, at 1 or 2 in the morning, 60 portions of fish and chips for the princely sum of £3. 15 shillings. For those not old enough to work it out, that comes to 1s and 3d for a portion of fish and chips. Oh, how times have changed. (and NOT for the better.) Happier Days.
My chippery still uses the dailymail paper she gets by bundles from the train station. Adds a tangy kick
Mmm, miss those Fish n Chips. ❤️
I could do a passable voice imitation of Mr. Robertson in the early 70s 😂
growing up in the north (during the 80's ) fish and chips were wrapped in a bit of butchers paper and then swaddled in old newspapers!
can still smell the ink.
How small is that portion?!
I like the oil in the background relaxing
What a lovely accent!
I remember the old fish and chip shop in nearby Leuchars with its menu, which said simply: 'Fish, chips' with prices.
The first fish and chip shop opened in London in around 1880 the first curry house was 1830 ( I may have the dates slightly off) curry is more British and fish and chips.
What a year 1874 .. chips and villa
It's Forth Robinson from The Men From The Ministry!😄
It's odd, but when I was a nipper in Birmingham, in the early 70's, we got our chips wrapped in old newspapers - I don't recall any paper containers.
Yes, we would put it all in a bag to take home, but it would still be wrapped in newspaper.
Perhaps it was regional or perhaps newsprint paper came back into fashion. That wrapping didn't last long though - but we still get our chips wrapped in the same type of paper, just without the print.
Wrapping chips in newspaper died out when printing presses started buying back unsold copies and recycling them.
That started in the 70s on a mass scale, so it probably varied by area whether newspaper was used or not.
You just cant go wrong with a Fyfe report. Brilliant stuff. 0:30 is fascinating, compare that to how we gorge now. Although maybe Scotland is like Northern Ireland. When you order just a fish here, you always get a wee sprinkling of chips. Not like those tight fisted English lol
We never used to peel potatoes either when i started my first temp job as a 15 yr old in 1987 we washed them white too...the man at 3:05 in the background is like a spectre from the past.
I love thinking like this. Like who decided we could go from a cow, to a meat pie, or a stew. Or a lamb, to shepherds pie. All those ingredients and ideas evolving... Fascinating. (just so you all know I'm not looking for anyone to mansplain the answers to my questions).
Tight fisted English? Bailing you out for years!!!! Can't afford to give away chips. Lol
Friday night has always been chippie night in Dundee 😄
I think the first chippy is at lochee Rd end of cleghorn St used to stay there
3:55 I've never seen anyone dip chips into a pile of salt before
i used to do that with sweet chestnuts
It must be an old fashioned thing. Apparently it's still royal etiquette to do that. Personally I think too much salt would go on each chip 🤷♂️
@@Mark-lj1dj We used to do that in Fife in the 1960s... the advantage is you can choose precisely how much salt to take
@@VielFartwhat do you call a posh dundonian?
A fifer...
Waxing poetic about fish and chips. They don't make TV like this any more. But of course now we have UA-cam. But there you have to find it. This got served to you :)
The Scots do a good chippy not going to lie - whenever Man United draw a Scottish team, I always have a chip shop supper before I head back south to north Manchester.
I concur, as a Jock living in England, look forward to heading back north for a chippy. Do bigger naan bread also.
Not related to a Gaz Winstanley by any chance? If so, and from round Swinton way - one of our locals was a Chinese Chippy called Ruby's. Loved that place as a kid.
0:29 can we get some chips with that fish....
To be fair, if the fish cost what it cost then I'd be alright with a dozen chips. A fish went from about 90p to about £1.80 between 1986 and 2000, and we had some proper inflation in the first few years of that. By 2016 it cost a fiver or more, don't even buy it now, it's not worth it.
My local chippy was doing the newspaper until the mid 90s.
In fact, every chippy I visited between ~1980 and 2000 had the newspaper wrappings.
Always found it odd at age four to be greeted by a pair of page three boobies wrapping a piece of cod!
I didn't realise Mark Hughes was from Dundee!!
Made me think about the phrase that indicates someone's inability to find a partner on a Friday night in Scotland:
"Chips and hame."
Buy chips. Go home. Alone. 😆😆😆
I'm from the US. I wondered in the UK, is there a specific fish that's usually used, or does that vary by region? Or do some of these shops have a choice of different fish?
It's usually cod or haddock. Sometimes plaice
@@katethomas5712 OK, thanks. Where I live the most popular fish is probably flounder or salmon, but cod is pretty easy to find. The fresh water fish we like are trout, catfish, crappie, and bass.
@@Mick_Ts_Chick Interesting. I'm not sure I can imagine some of those fish battered though. I've not heard of crappie?!
@@katethomas5712 Crappie are in lakes and ponds and are a type of sunfish like large mouth bass and bluegill. They are delicious fried! We pretty much fry everything up in the south, lol. I'm in North Carolina.
In Scotland you're much more likely to get haddock as the fish in a fish supper (what we call fish with chips), whereas it's more commonly cod elsewhere.
The first ever chippy in UK? That’s a bold statement
If you think of Dundee as it is today but in the middle of the 1800's it was one of the most industrious trading cities in Britain so it makes sense that some new grub from elsewhere might get served here first.
Paper mache tray in 1964 ... then we moved to that awful polystyrene . Now we see polystyrene as quite terrible because of it gassing off and tainting our food and not decomposing ...we are going back to compressed paper mache trays which people are wondering "why didn't we do this before" WE DID and this video proves it.
Important that we retain older technologies , some older technologies that is ...I'm not referring to the wee plastic sauce pot either!.
Fascinating film .
Interesting comments about how small the portion was. Seems normal to me, I can never finish a whole 2024-sized portion.
You stab it so! 😂
Good video
Salt dip, old school 😮
3:55 Strangest salt technique I've ever seen. Who knew salt was actually a dip?
And now they cost 20 quid. Also no longer served in yesterday's newspaper. Sad times
Peabusters were fantastic! You have to do the peas yourself nowadays to get the right consistency, tinned peas just aren’t the same…starving now… 🤤😅
We gave fish and chips to the world
And we thought shrink-flation was bad now. That portion was woeful.
No wonder they were all skinny then.😂😂😂
... The Scot's Took it Up a Notch With the 'Deep Fried Mars Bar'... A 'MUNCHIE' Indeed 🏴🖖🤓 2:47
Papier mache trays? What a novel idea............. :P
So when I’m eating Chips in France
I am actually eating authentic French food 😂😂👍🏼