it's a sand job from DUST ALLEY and we both know it's a BALL BUSTING JOB! Now lets show some support and visit the Merchandise shelf above this comment and get some cools STUFF!
I was beginner/intermediate when I started watching this channel and I now restore vehicles for a living. Diy guy or professional this is the best info on the internet and has helped me immensely along the way. The new guy just watched this to help him understand block sanding lol. Thanks Pete
Pete next week I start with my High School body students. I don't even let them use a air tool until their metal work and filler work is done. All filler work is done by hand with various blocks, all initial sanding is done with 36 grit. Once everything is really close they move to 80. My preference is finish sand with 180. Less sand scratches plus it teaches them how to feather edge their filler and get a better feel to move to primer surfacer. Good video and couldn't agree more, hand sanding is the only way to go even after doing this almost as long as you. Oh, I will probably show this video to my students once they get their metal straightening done and we move into plastic filler in a couple of weeks.
Some 2K primers are thicker than others and wont spray out of a 1.8 tip well unless you reduce it like 4:1:1 instead of just 4 to 1 like it says. I like to go to at least 180 before spraying 2K. if there are still scratches then you just have to block sand and then apply more 2 K. But the primer is expensive so the less you have to apply the better
my father used to be a professional paint and body man he did a lot a whole lot of cars and we always helped him sand them and she was trying to teach us the proper ways but he died before he was able to finish teaching us thank you Pete for putting out excellent content and showing us the right way
Don't know if you read these. But I would have probably wasted a shit load of material, learning how to paint & do body work by myself. Thank you for being genuine and not bullshitting us on how to learn this profession. Thank you Pete!
This intrigues me, I have a ex-marine buddy that owns a body shop and he is always telling me that when I am ready to learn body work he will show me the way. To him it is almost some sort of religion. Much like Pete, he is always telling me that quick is ok when you need it done but perfection is in the hands.
The old guy who taught me bodywork like 40+ years ago always said,wipe it,file it,wipe it again,and he always started sanding or filing initially before the filler was rock hard because it cut and leveled a little faster and easier,and he always used a crosshatch pattern when filling and sanding,and we never used a DA on filler to do mudwork other than a big DA to cut the filler down. I've been a bodyman for many years,still will be one in the morning when i head to work in the morning,got maybe a couple more years before before i retire,then i can come home and not have to do it for anyone but myself on my own projects,that's gonna be a good day brother. Off my soapbox.
I can’t help myself as this is the 4th or 5th time I have watched the entire video. I feel I have learned something or reinforced what I felt I knew. As a repair tech and not a body tech, I still feel that I am learning. I was waiting for some guide coat action, as you use flat black and other use powder rubbed in. I bought a case or 12 flat black at $0.88 cents per can, but I do feel like a powder would show a little better and the best deal (Other Than Printer Toner) is made by “Mirka”. It is half the cost of 3M. I have also started a large bag of hard to medium hard sheet metal shipping foam. This was the topic of a video you made 8 years ago. Either way, you have shown me how many tools in my hand I can use to create a flat smooth show car finish. As you say, this is the “Build Coat” and not paint ready. I appreciate you enthusiastic approach to the final product. I will say that buying a .”Rust-Oleum” spray can holder for spraying any can product. Weather it is guide coat or painting an engine or transmission. I watch, I learn, I am better for your videos period! Thanks Pete! Here is a electronic “Shake a hand, make a friend” to you! Thanks Pete as I have no way to show my appreciation. Thanks!
I tried doing a similar repair on a sand blasted hood that was also chemically dipped. I tried for a month with an air file. Before I figured out what you just explained. The hood was disconnected from the framework that also made it extra difficult. I reattached the hood to the framework then used hand blocks for another month to get it right. It was a. Learning experience. THANK YOU FOR ALL U DO. PETE.
Great explanation. Body filler spread on then Hutchins hand file with 36 grit works every time. Learn to read the highs and lows in the filler, it is also a tool!
Thank you my friend Pete! You are the informative and instructive guy! Gruff but honest! I'm a novice just getting back into paint and bodywork after four and a half decades. I learned in my early 20's in 1978 and now tackling a couple old steel behemoths in retirement (my '77 Merc Marquis Broughm coupe and '75 Chev Monte Carlo). I got all my old hand tools and a bunch of new ones too. Hell, my hard sanding block is older than my 45 year old daughter 😂 Looking forward to viewing many of your videos new and old! Stay well my friend Pete!
I really want to see you do that Corvette. From stripping that fibreglass to putting on primer that doesn't check and crack like the factory did to painting the inside of those Sail Panels.
Thank you for sharing your useful knowledge. I have been into this trade for four years. Still can not get my filler work perfect. Sometimes i see ripples. Though i start with 80 grit with hand sanding, then smooth it to 180. Then use 2 k primer filler, sand it down, water based paint and lacquer to polish. Its a constant learning battle. Sometimes i get my filler work absolutely right and find it more frustrating when i get a run in my lacquer, or clear coat as you call in USA. but i am determined to get it right sooner rather than later. watching your videos definately help. Thank you so much for your hardwork.
The 80 grit is going to sand the tops of the ripples down. The 180 will polish the ripples. You need 36 grit first. There are other videos where he and others explains this problem.
Hey Pete you should have a look at festool sanders and dust extractor I have been doing mud work for 30 years I'm glad I switched to festool stuff there's no dust
This is a pleasure to watch. Thanks Pete. How is Minnie doing with U-Haul? My dad had a U-Haul store for years. It can be a pain to learn but it's a great business. He is a tip NEVER EVER TAKE A CUSTOMERS WORD ON MILEAGE. NEVER. LOL. NEAL
Been watching your stuff for a long time Pete. Great as always. You've never steered the viewers wrong. I might have a slightly different tool or technique when it comes to doing certain things here and there, but you're right on when it comes to explaining the procedures to people, especially newbies. Any detractors that might be out there will never be picking up a block sander in their lives anyway...they just expect the silver spoon in their mouths to pay for everything to be done for them (they'll find out soon enough that, that isn't how the world goes around). Keep up the great work Pete..you're appreciated! Best to Minnie and Sammie.
Pete, I love the hand broom action during production of the filler shaping. You have said it before but it keeps it from getting on everything in the shop. Thanks a great deal for sharing the basics and tools for starting a repair. One can not stress the basics enough. I be down for a week and check back in, on the lessons and fun at DIY Auto School.
Pete, is it necessary to bondo all your panels, I'm restoring my 78 firebird, have replaced some panels, and repaired others. I can see doing the panels I've welded on ,but if my lines are good, is it necessary to do the whole car?
No it’s not necessary to bondo all the other panels if there nice and straight,as long as you feather in real good the ereas you bondo in you should be good,
I'm working on an old truck removing rust, and not looking for pristine perfection it's an old truck, would spotters putty work as an alternative to polyester filler?
This was Great I had 1 question. After epoxy has lost 5 day window before applying filler do you need to re spray another coat or sand to metal in those spots?
i think my friend pete needs to update his schooling...my friend pete goes back to autobody school, sounds like a great video idea to me. we'll see if he learns anything new
My dad and I used to restore classic cars since the age of 5 I was sanding by hand and was always telling my dad why can't we get some air tools to be quicker he told me it's just not the same later on he admitted that it was just cheaper for him to have me do it by hand instead of buying the tool lol 😂
Pete i used rage gold..i did some body work on a black car and it came out grate. fast fwd 8 months it shrink on me and looks like shit... what did i do wrong ? thanks man
hey, if there is a few that call you an asshole well im a pro. auto mechanic becuz of the few asshole masters i worked for. the reason a few are assholes is becuz they make it clear to you how its done and 99% is ONLY one way, and i love my few asshole bosses, they taught me well, no come backs !!
i bought a 7 piece block set from dura block, only to find out it was a 6 piece set & a bar of soap. WTF? what kind of sanding can you do with a bar of soap? only now they say it's free, no it isn't.
it's a sand job from DUST ALLEY and we both know it's a BALL BUSTING JOB! Now lets show some support and visit the Merchandise shelf above this comment and get some cools STUFF!
I was beginner/intermediate when I started watching this channel and I now restore vehicles for a living. Diy guy or professional this is the best info on the internet and has helped me immensely along the way. The new guy just watched this to help him understand block sanding lol. Thanks Pete
Pete next week I start with my High School body students. I don't even let them use a air tool until their metal work and filler work is done. All filler work is done by hand with various blocks, all initial sanding is done with 36 grit. Once everything is really close they move to 80. My preference is finish sand with 180. Less sand scratches plus it teaches them how to feather edge their filler and get a better feel to move to primer surfacer. Good video and couldn't agree more, hand sanding is the only way to go even after doing this almost as long as you. Oh, I will probably show this video to my students once they get their metal straightening done and we move into plastic filler in a couple of weeks.
Some 2K primers are thicker than others and wont spray out of a 1.8 tip well unless you reduce it like 4:1:1 instead of just 4 to 1 like it says. I like to go to at least 180 before spraying 2K. if there are still scratches then you just have to block sand and then apply more 2 K. But the primer is expensive so the less you have to apply the better
What grit should I use on my final sand before priming thank you
my father used to be a professional paint and body man he did a lot a whole lot of cars and we always helped him sand them and she was trying to teach us the proper ways but he died before he was able to finish teaching us thank you Pete for putting out excellent content and showing us the right way
Don't know if you read these. But I would have probably wasted a shit load of material, learning how to paint & do body work by myself. Thank you for being genuine and not bullshitting us on how to learn this profession.
Thank you Pete!
No yelling, you OK Pete? Great video bud. Inspiring advice, thanks man.
This intrigues me, I have a ex-marine buddy that owns a body shop and he is always telling me that when I am ready to learn body work he will show me the way. To him it is almost some sort of religion. Much like Pete, he is always telling me that quick is ok when you need it done but perfection is in the hands.
Pete you are the reason I can paint been following you for 12 years
Yeah Im getting old -- 12 years now.. Time flys..
@@diyautoschool me too buddy me too!
The Camaro looks really nice Pete. I'm sure the owner will be very pleased.
May God bless you and yours.
nice work Pete, it's obvious you're not just some guy that paints cars, you're a true paint & body man
The old guy who taught me bodywork like 40+ years ago always said,wipe it,file it,wipe it again,and he always started sanding or filing initially before the filler was rock hard because it cut and leveled a little faster and easier,and he always used a crosshatch pattern when filling and sanding,and we never used a DA on filler to do mudwork other than a big DA to cut the filler down. I've been a bodyman for many years,still will be one in the morning when i head to work in the morning,got maybe a couple more years before before i retire,then i can come home and not have to do it for anyone but myself on my own projects,that's gonna be a good day brother. Off my soapbox.
I can’t help myself as this is the 4th or 5th time I have watched the entire video. I feel I have learned something or reinforced what I felt I knew. As a repair tech and not a body tech, I still feel that I am learning. I was waiting for some guide coat action, as you use flat black and other use powder rubbed in. I bought a case or 12 flat black at $0.88 cents per can, but I do feel like a powder would show a little better and the best deal (Other Than Printer Toner) is made by “Mirka”. It is half the cost of 3M. I have also started a large bag of hard to medium hard sheet metal shipping foam. This was the topic of a video you made 8 years ago. Either way, you have shown me how many tools in my hand I can use to create a flat smooth show car finish. As you say, this is the “Build Coat” and not paint ready. I appreciate you enthusiastic approach to the final product. I will say that buying a .”Rust-Oleum” spray can holder for spraying any can product. Weather it is guide coat or painting an engine or transmission. I watch, I learn, I am better for your videos period! Thanks Pete! Here is a electronic “Shake a hand, make a friend” to you! Thanks Pete as I have no way to show my appreciation. Thanks!
You are such a good teacher Pete! I appreciate your videos.
I tried doing a similar repair on a sand blasted hood that was also chemically dipped. I tried for a month with an air file. Before I figured out what you just explained. The hood was disconnected from the framework that also made it extra difficult. I reattached the hood to the framework then used hand blocks for another month to get it right. It was a. Learning experience. THANK YOU FOR ALL U DO. PETE.
Great explanation. Body filler spread on then Hutchins hand file with 36 grit works every time. Learn to read the highs and lows in the filler, it is also a tool!
Thank you my Friend Pete! You're always a great instructor!
My friend Pete, is the best.
Dry guide coat helps at this stage. Great video!
Thank you My Friend Pete for the beginner hand tool video.
Really cool when you break it down to the details! Always enjoy learning something from you Pete!!
Best instructional ever. Thanks Pete
Thanks Pete,,,,,my favorite type of videos from you. Down to earth, good advice and real world experience for us to learn from!
Good and helpful guidance always welcome and appreciate by our inexperienced people Pete.Thanks for sharing it with us.
Thank you for making this video the start of a new beginning
Thank you my friend Pete!
You are the informative and instructive guy! Gruff but honest! I'm a novice just getting back into paint and bodywork after four and a half decades. I learned in my early 20's in 1978 and now tackling a couple old steel behemoths in retirement (my '77 Merc Marquis Broughm coupe and '75 Chev Monte Carlo). I got all my old hand tools and a bunch of new ones too. Hell, my hard sanding block is older than my 45 year old daughter 😂
Looking forward to viewing many of your videos new and old!
Stay well my friend Pete!
Your advice is key in teaching. Subscribed.
Great job again my friend Pete thanks for all the advice 👍
this guy scares the crap outta me but his teaching is unmatched
Super Super cool video , my van panels looking so good and making homemade sanding tools , thanks a bunch.
Thank you very much for the classes .
I really want to see you do that Corvette. From stripping that fibreglass to putting on primer that doesn't check and crack like the factory did to painting the inside of those Sail Panels.
That's crazy,I was a beginner 35 yrs ago,and in a blink of the eye 35 yrs seems like 10 yrs.Now I know why they say life is short.🤔🤔🤔
Thank you for sharing your useful knowledge. I have been into this trade for four years. Still can not get my filler work perfect. Sometimes i see ripples. Though i start with 80 grit with hand sanding, then smooth it to 180. Then use 2 k primer filler, sand it down, water based paint and lacquer to polish. Its a constant learning battle. Sometimes i get my filler work absolutely right and find it more frustrating when i get a run in my lacquer, or clear coat as you call in USA. but i am determined to get it right sooner rather than later. watching your videos definately help. Thank you so much for your hardwork.
The 80 grit is going to sand the tops of the ripples down. The 180 will polish the ripples. You need 36 grit first. There are other videos where he and others explains this problem.
@@josephfilm73 Thank you. I will try 36 grit to start with. Which 2k primer do use?
Excellent advice and video!
Great Video Pete, Thanks for sharing your knowledge to us beginners….
Thanks Pete…I love your lessons like this, it helps!!!!
Great Job Pete and Great Video and information.
Good video on this Pete letting beginners know that you need to do the body work with thumbs up 👍
Yo from freezeland. I'm actually finalizing my 74 ironhead and was going to actually ask your sand steps...perfect timing pete...hey minnie...
I’m just bought a 1990 dodge pick up the body pretty straight
I’ll keep looking for more tips thanks
Good advice for the beginner. Thanks for the video. Tom
Always by hand when learning. We used speeder handles on one of the most advanced aircraft in the Marine Corps at the time.
DIY and Bad Chad are the best two in business idc what anybody says
Gracias, aprendo mucho con sus videos, bendiciones
thanks for the lessons MASTER DUST ALLEY !
Could you fill the structural supports of the hood with marine foam to help the hood from denting when closing the hood?
Hey Pete you should have a look at festool sanders and dust extractor I have been doing mud work for 30 years I'm glad I switched to festool stuff there's no dust
This is a pleasure to watch. Thanks Pete. How is Minnie doing with U-Haul? My dad had a U-Haul store for years. It can be a pain to learn but it's a great business. He is a tip NEVER EVER TAKE A CUSTOMERS WORD ON MILEAGE. NEVER. LOL. NEAL
The is great yeoman’s work. I suck at getting it perfect. Thank you Pete.
thanks for sharing I have all I need to begin learning. I already learned so much from your channel say hi to Minnie and the family God Bless you all
Ignore the trolls Pete. Great video brother!!!
Pete is a little rough around the edges but that said he really is a touchy feely kind of guy, that's what makes him so adorable.
Been watching your stuff for a long time Pete. Great as always. You've never steered the viewers wrong. I might have a slightly different tool or technique when it comes to doing certain things here and there, but you're right on when it comes to explaining the procedures to people, especially newbies. Any detractors that might be out there will never be picking up a block sander in their lives anyway...they just expect the silver spoon in their mouths to pay for everything to be done for them (they'll find out soon enough that, that isn't how the world goes around). Keep up the great work Pete..you're appreciated! Best to Minnie and Sammie.
I remember the first time I got a Viking air board sander after doing it by hand, I said wow that speeds things up.
Keep it up you do a great job.
Good stuff👍
Gonna have to finish watching it after work
Pete, I love the hand broom action during production of the filler shaping. You have said it before but it keeps it from getting on everything in the shop. Thanks a great deal for sharing the basics and tools for starting a repair. One can not stress the basics enough. I be down for a week and check back in, on the lessons and fun at DIY Auto School.
2ndly i was hard headed when i was young, they drilled it in my head becuz i needed it !!
Thanks for the informative video
Thank you for the videos. Great help.
Thanks Pete best regards from Holland
Cool to see Holland watching …. Your friend paul Zonneveld from delta bc Canada 🇨🇦
Greetings to Minnie and my friend Pete from Milton Mike.
Thanks Pete
Pete, is it necessary to bondo all your panels, I'm restoring my 78 firebird, have replaced some panels, and repaired others. I can see doing the panels I've welded on ,but if my lines are good, is it necessary to do the whole car?
No it’s not necessary to bondo all the other panels if there nice and straight,as long as you feather in real good the ereas you bondo in you should be good,
@@keithclark486 I been doing bodywork for a living for 15 years I got a lil experience
I'm working on an old truck removing rust, and not looking for pristine perfection it's an old truck, would spotters putty work as an alternative to polyester filler?
The most important tool that you can use are your two hands. Sand with hand tools always feel the work area for highs and low spots.👍
Auto Body 101.. Love it
after using filler primer and wet sanding smooth
do i paint after or do i use regular primer?
Hello Pete and Minnie
thanks my friend Pete
Hey Pete a cheese grater is for cheese a surform tool is for body filler.
i have to wait till i get my new shop to finish my pu all it needs is the final paint job and the interior is all most dun
This was Great I had 1 question. After epoxy has lost 5 day window before applying filler do you need to re spray another coat or sand to metal in those spots?
I'm in the same boat did you get a answer thanks
Spot on Pete
i think my friend pete needs to update his schooling...my friend pete goes back to autobody school, sounds like a great video idea to me. we'll see if he learns anything new
My dad and I used to restore classic cars since the age of 5 I was sanding by hand and was always telling my dad why can't we get some air tools to be quicker he told me it's just not the same later on he admitted that it was just cheaper for him to have me do it by hand instead of buying the tool lol 😂
Pete i used rage gold..i did some body work on a black car and it came out grate. fast fwd 8 months it shrink on me and looks like shit... what did i do wrong ? thanks man
What is the least size, horse power and spray volume compressor do you recommend for a dyi'er without breaking the bank
Yo pete you got any more of those middle fingers for sale?
Perfect diy video
what sanders should you buy to do a vw bug? not mutch flat on those X/
Good insight Pete.
? cant you use a guide coat to help you out
Good stuff.
does that hurt your back after doing that?
👍
Where you get that brush at
Hand blocks are sooo important ..
thank you...
Hand sanding. Yes Sir.
Pete, the paint store told me to spray/seal my bare metal with epoxy prior to applying filler. True?
Yes or self etch primer… but epoxy is the way to go if you don’t mind spending a couple extra bucks
Damn straight !!! I freaking hate machines
i have a hard block from the late 70s.
There is 2 diy auto schools copyright problems?
I thought this guy was dead! The intro says Mini, The body shop girl...🤣🤣 I think her days of being called "girl" are long since gone...lol
Hey man put some respect on my friend petes name, He's a great guy that's taught many people how to do bodywork, May God Bless Him and Minnie 🙏😁
Hello Pete
SO CORRECT!!!
hey, if there is a few that call you an asshole well im a pro. auto mechanic becuz of the few asshole masters i worked for. the reason a few are assholes is becuz they make it clear to you how its done and 99% is ONLY one way, and i love my few asshole bosses, they taught me well, no come backs !!
i bought a 7 piece block set from dura block, only to find out it was a 6 piece set & a bar of soap. WTF? what kind of sanding can you do with a bar of soap? only now they say it's free, no it isn't.
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