GW Shades vs Army Painter Washes Featuring Napoleonic Miniatures

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  • Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
  • I decided it was time to compare GW Shades to Army Painter Washes. Both ranges have been revamped in the last couple of years and I hope this serves as a useful guide to what the differences are. I tested Agrax Earthshade, Seraphim Sepia, Nuln Oil and Targor Rageshade, along with diluted versions using Lahmian Medium mixed 1:1. You can see how they line up against Army Painter Strong Tone, Sepia Tone, Light Tone, Soft Tone, Dark Tone, as well as Rust Tone, in both neat and diluted forms (using Army Painter Wash Medium 1:1).
    Overall, I think GW Shades make the recesses darker but also tint the original base colours more than Army Painter washes. Let me know what you think!
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    The miniatures used are 28mm Victrix Middle Guard painted as French line voltigeurs. Paints used for the base colours below.
    Prime: Colour Forge Ghoul Grey
    Grey coat: GW Grey Seer
    Skin: Vallejo Game Extra Opaque Heavy Skintone
    Straps/trousers: Vallejo Model Colour Off White
    Packs: Vallejo Game Extra Opaque Heavy Brown
    Musket stock/hair: Vallejo Game Extra Opaque Heavy Sienna
    Boots/cartridge boxes/shako peaks: Vallejo Panzer Aces Dark Rubber
    Caps: Vallejo Model Colour Dark Prussian Blue
    Shako covers: Vallejo Game Colour Elfic Flesh
    Epaulettes: Vallejo Model Colour Deep Green
    Voltigeur Pompoms: Vallejo Game Extra Opaque Heavy Gold Brown
    Musket barrels/bayonets: Vallejo Game Colour Silver
    Sabre hilts: Vallejo Model Colour Brass

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  • @pumbar
    @pumbar 2 місяці тому +5

    I'd go for Strong Tone with or without medium as the overall winner there.

    • @CullodenPaintingStudio
      @CullodenPaintingStudio  2 місяці тому

      Strong Tone is a great all-rounder. Adding some medium is my preference.

    • @pumbar
      @pumbar 2 місяці тому

      @@CullodenPaintingStudio 👍

    • @pumbar
      @pumbar 2 місяці тому

      Though I am a confirmed tight-wad and just use brown ink and Flash floor polish (which comes out the same for a fraction of the price) 🙂

    • @CullodenPaintingStudio
      @CullodenPaintingStudio  2 місяці тому +1

      @@pumbar An absolute classic.

    • @pumbar
      @pumbar 2 місяці тому

      @@CullodenPaintingStudio 🤣👍

  • @darrinstanaway8943
    @darrinstanaway8943 2 місяці тому +1

    Great breakdown of different tones by both gives a honest and great comparison and how they can affect the miniatures much appreciated and great watch 😊

    • @CullodenPaintingStudio
      @CullodenPaintingStudio  2 місяці тому +1

      Thanks very much. I'm glad I'm not the only one who wanted to see the difference between the ranges.

  • @Castillo525
    @Castillo525 2 місяці тому +1

    Strong tone's old formula used to be very viscous and had the pigment levels of a tint more than a wash. Strange change, Ill have to make some changed to my painting recipes. Great video.

    • @CullodenPaintingStudio
      @CullodenPaintingStudio  2 місяці тому

      Yeah, there's definitely a difference between old and new AP Washes. I did a video on them recently to show the changes. Overall a change for the best!

  • @user-mc4sq3fk5d
    @user-mc4sq3fk5d Місяць тому +1

    Great video. Welcome more comparison videos. Any thoughts on Vallejo shades? Thanks again.

  • @basicminiaturepainting
    @basicminiaturepainting 2 місяці тому

    Excellent comparison

  • @VicodinElmo
    @VicodinElmo Місяць тому

    I liked the Targor Rageshade surprisingly. Don’t see people using it much at all but it’s got a nice colour. Wouldn’t use it in this scenario but certainly one I’ll look to pick up at some point

    • @CullodenPaintingStudio
      @CullodenPaintingStudio  Місяць тому

      It's definitely got potential over browns, reds, skin and gold I would say. I reckon barbarians or beastmen would be suitable for an all over application of Targor Rageshade.

  • @goforitpainting
    @goforitpainting 2 місяці тому

    Really cool review. 🖌

  • @thomaschase7097
    @thomaschase7097 2 місяці тому

    Would be great to see a comparison like that of AK and Vallejo washes.
    Thank you for sharing.

    • @CullodenPaintingStudio
      @CullodenPaintingStudio  2 місяці тому +1

      Maybe Vallejo one day. AK Interactive are not going to appear though. Using imagery from the Holocaust in an advertising campaign for a book was unconscionable.

  • @legiox217
    @legiox217 2 місяці тому

    This is a great video, when I have time I need to give it a proper watch. I’ve been experimenting with citadels new vs old formula verse Duncan Rhodes washes. I have a bottle of strong tone I’ve never really tried and didn’t realize they also changed their formula ? Lots to sift through, and it’s hard to pick a ‘best’ because they can be applied for different reasons to get different desired results. But some are better than others for each task! Thanks

    • @CullodenPaintingStudio
      @CullodenPaintingStudio  2 місяці тому +1

      Glad you like the video. There are loads of applications for the shades or washes, and while there probably is a "best" product for each job it's a lot of work to find it. I think that the filter effect that the GW shades gives could be very appropriate for dirtier finishes for example. I haven't handled any of the Two Thin Coats range yet so may need to look out for them myself.

    • @legiox217
      @legiox217 2 місяці тому

      @@CullodenPaintingStudio the Duncan washes are very nice imo, they’re most comparable to the original citadel washes in that they tint extremely well so give great bits of shadows to work with. Battle Mud Wash for example is the agrax earth shade equivalent and I prefer it to old citadel currently. It looks a bit murky on the palette, but I think is because it has a drop of matte medium in it because it dries so matte.

    • @CullodenPaintingStudio
      @CullodenPaintingStudio  2 місяці тому +1

      @@legiox217 that's good to know. Maybe I will seek them out for a video at some point.

    • @legiox217
      @legiox217 2 місяці тому

      @@CullodenPaintingStudio I am keen to compare them to the army painter versions now haha. They were so much stronger than the new citadel washes that it made my new formula citadel washes seem like they had no pigmentation… they do flow nicely into recesses but when you need to stain or tint something the new citadels aren’t great at all for me, though I hear applying two coats gets a similar effect. I have the “old” dark tone I believe …so I guess I need to grab a bottle of the new one now.

  • @thomaschase7097
    @thomaschase7097 2 місяці тому

    Isn't the tiny bottle of "Wash Medium" really just a flow improver? I buy large bottles of artist flow improver for allot less than those tiny bottles.

    • @CullodenPaintingStudio
      @CullodenPaintingStudio  2 місяці тому +1

      A big bottle of flow improver probably does the job just as well. Thought testing the branded stuff was the most fair way of doing the test.