How to Cement board and electrical on DIY BBQ Island #4
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- Опубліковано 4 вер 2017
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I do thinset for the Hardie backer.im also a framer of customs and track homes.good job.HE IS DOING THIS RIGHT.....
Great stuff man 👍
Thank you
This is great
I was overthinking this way to much, it's so simple thanks
With a some work and sweat anything is possible. Thanks for watching
@@d.i.yeddie6075 no doubt me and my pops are gonna start this project soon
@@juanyupa236 awesome, I'm enjoying the outdoor bbq for all types of celebrations especially now that its warming up👍
@@d.i.yeddie6075 exactly perfect weather for outside fun
Coming along real nice!
Thank you
im getting the diy bbq framing kit as well... But I have a freestanding bbq that I just want to take apart and set in to make it "built in" do you think this would be okay?
@@d.i.yeddie6075 Eddie, I have watched your videos so many times. thank you for the videos. Could you please give me list of electrical stuff you used for exterior. I am a novice to this. Thanks in advance for the help.
@@gpydisetti
I used
1 roll of 14/2 x50 ft solid mc lite cable (flex)
9 - 1 gang metal boxes
10 - electrical outlets 9 regular and 1 gfci
1 - 2 gang outdoor weather box
2 - bags of holders for the flex
2 - bags of end connectors for flex and plastic protectors
9 - 1 gang horizontal Weatherproof lid cover
1 box of self tapping screws
For the long run from the panel we used 4 - 8g wires about 150ft each
12 - 3/4 conduit
5-6 90 degree conduit bends
1 bag of 3/4" conduit connectors
2 - 3/4" to 3/4 thread fittings
We also changed the circuit breaker from a regular single 30a to slim dual 30a.
@@d.i.yeddie6075 Shoudl I use the exterior metal boxes
www.lowes.com/pd/Sigma-Electric-1-Gang-Gray-Metal-New-Interior-Exterior-Electrical-Box/1098639
or
www.lowes.com/pd/RACO-1-Gang-Gray-Metal-Interior-New-Work-Deep-Handy-Wall-Electrical-Box/1000631
this is coming out great I am just picking up some hard board for mine ..studs are done..no electrical yet I will do that last..a bit harder but oh well!
Dude you have done a fantastic job , I will attempt to replicate your project thank you, on to the next video..
Thank you!
Looks good
Nice work
Thank you
nice.👍
snips work great for studs dosent matter about the rounded edge you cut on the small lip first then work your way up .
Thanks for the tip!
Nice 👌
Thank you
You are very nice to do these vids. Best from Mike in Chicago
Thank you! just trying to help others who want to build a outdoor BBQ
Excellent video....so you just have to screw and stucco the cement boards to the frame?
I liked that you showed all the steps and all the sections. When you're panning around the project try to pan a little slower. It would make it easier to follow. The audio was good!
James Ciesla thank you i did notice the video looks zoomed in on youtube compared to the original. With that said i was recording with my cell phone, i did upgrade to a gopro with a stand hopefully it will get better with time. thank you for letting me know
looks great, I am about to dive into a project like this. I noticed in your cabinet cutout you just have a channel piece alone the bottom. I have seen some that put small stud peices on the ends. do you think just the channel piece is enough to hold the panel or cabinet?
extra support is always great, We haven't had any issues with it. thanks for watching
Great videos and the project looks great! One question. How did you attach the back stud that sits horizontally at the back of the grill? I see it spans the opening but I can’t tell how it’s attached. Thanks!
I cut and folded the ends in to box them in, then screwed them from under, you can see a little at 2:30 left side. I also added small pieces to "box" in the stud along the length for strength. you can see where I added 6 screws
I enjoyed watching 😎 and did you do a sub manel for electrical just curious
looks good Eddie! Have you considered putting leveling feet?
I thought about it but i would only install leveling feet on rigit tube frames. In my case I would have to reinforce the bottom frame because the leveling feet would create pressure points and damage the lower frame
Thanks for producing the videos! Regarding the cutouts for the BBQ, Access Door and Drawers... On the BBQ... first I assume that if the cutout depth is 8.5" that you frame subtracting the 1/2" for the concrete board, and I am subtracting 2.25" for the concrete top. So... the actual framed cutout depth is 5.75" is that correct? On the width and height for everything else... if the width is say 30 5/8" for the BBQ to you add an extra 1/8" or keep it to the 30 5/8"? I don't want it to be so tight that the BBQ wont slip in, or to large that it fall thru.
Jaime you are correct, because the bbq sits and is supported by the countertop. I checked the installation manual and followed the exact dimensions, then measured actual bbq, they usually leave extra space for slight installation adjustment. Thanks for watching
Oh this is genius
Can you place the bbq directly on the cement board ? Making a outdoor fire pit and was thinking of using Cement board and porcelain tile and dropping the fire pit pan on top.
Hi Eddie, Excellent videos that are helping me with my built in bbq. I had one question re-guarding the concrete boards and ground spacing. Did you leave a small space between the bottom of the concrete board and the ground? If so how what is the length of the spacing and does it need to be sealed down the road? Thank you for your help
I thanks for watching, i believe I had the boards at least 1" above the the finished floor, the tile goes down past that in some areas
I live in cental America (panama) and this looks like a great way to do my kitchen..... since we have alot of termite issues.... any ideas on how to ger stattes
Hi Eddie - question. did you use any construction adhesive for attaching cement board to steel frame? Or did you just use screws? I saw on a DYI bbq site they recommended using construction adhesive in addition to screws. Thanks!
I didn't use any but I wouldn't see a negative in using a construction adhesive just make sure its able to withhold temperature variations and weather
Hi Eddie. Great video and awesome job! I am using Durock as a base for my countertop as well and it comes out about 7 inches (not flush like yours). Once the cement cures and I remove the wooden supports, do you know if the cement would have bonded with the Durock? If not, I was thinking of removing it along the outer edges once the cement countertop had cured. Any advice would be great!
Hey Antonio. It more than likely bonded to the durock since it is somewhat porous. if you need to remove a section I would suggest cutting the section out and replacing the durock. Without any pictures it is hard to make a determination. Thanks for watching,
I love your videos awesome question did you anchor the islands to your concrete
Thank you, i did not anchor the bbq to the floor. It just sits on top
Hi Eddie what is the depth of your cabinets and will they fit a mini fridge? Thank you
Hello Eddie, once again great job, very impressive!! It looks like you left the bottom open and just used some trex decking boards, what do you think about covering the bottom with the same material you used on the sides and then adding the Trex boards? Thanks for your time and help!! Barry
bjbhehir Thank You! I tried adding cement board strips to help cover up but it was too thin to screw. On my other video I lowered the first row of tiles to help with the opening. It came out great check out my other videos !
Looks great. Did you Stucco directly on the backer board for the rear? If so, what kind did you use? Thanks!
Thank you, make sure you watch all the bbq island videos. Yes I stucco'd directly to the cement board, I would recommend using concrete glue to help adhere initially. I used the stucco from homedepot, I believe it was $7 a bag. www.homedepot.com/p/SAKRETE-80-lb-Scratch-and-Brown-Stucco-Mix-65401033/100676107
Can u give me the details framing for the area where the BBQ Grill placed? I got confused at the back framing where u had 2 top frames at the back support for the BBQ grill.
Thx
I framed the opening at what the instructions for the grill specified. I then added a second frame for extra support.
Hey Eddie, really good video I used it a lot during my project. Quick question, do you happened to have a video when you completed the electrical/outlets, all that? I know you mentioned the electrical on video #3, but do you happen to have more info on the electrical. thanks man excellent video!!
Thank you, I dont have a video where it goes over the electrical specifically. My cousins are certified electricians and ran the main power line out from the panel. I then ran all the outlets off one gfci. hope this helps
Eddie fantastic series of videos I’ve extensively reviewed each and looked at your layout it’s been such a great help. Question regarding the electrical boxes what do u suggest I’m planning to do 1/2” permabase and then add ledgestone veneer should I be adding a mud ring to extend the outlets closer to level with the stone? Or should I keep them level to the cement board? I’ll be using similar outlet covers to urs thanks!
Thank you, I would ether use an extension box to bring it out to the veneer or use a stone veneer outlet box similar to this one. www.homedepot.com/p/Boral-8-in-x-6-in-Versetta-Stone-Receptacle-Box-Taupe-4210315/205331640?cm_mmc=Shopping%7CG%7CBase%7CD29A%7CMulti%7CNA%7CPLA%7CMajor-Appliances%7CSpecial-Buys%7c71700000032418849%7c58700003842365800%7c92700030987191770&gclid=CjwKCAiAodTfBRBEEiwAa1haupkUYYj2LGQFDHaLLgNIqJYG1egeMdyjq4QAnXzQ6w-KqWrIP39k-xoCI34QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Thanks for watching!
looks pretty simple I can probably build one myself ? maybe
You can do it!
How thick of the cement board did you buy? Will it make a difference between 1/4 and 1/2? Debating which one I should buy, love the videos btw!
Thank you, I used 1/2" cement board, wasn't much difference in cost.
Hi Eddie. Very nice job! Can these steel stud rust over time? These are steel stud we can find à Home Depot?
They are galvanized but overtime they can rust depending on humidity, weather, etc but, there are many ways to prevent corrosion from starting. They do not sell 20gauge studs at home depot but i do believe you can special order them. Thanks for watching
Great video! You mention shimming to level everything. Where did you use the shims? Under the cement board or between the composite board and the frame? Were they wood shims?
Thanks! I used composite shims between the composite board and frames
@@d.i.yeddie6075 And did you use longer screws to go through the frame, shims, and into the composite board?
What kind of screws did you use to support the decking to the slab & the metal framing to the decking?
I did not screw the decking to the slab its sitting on top of the slab
Thanks for the video's, they're awesome!! It looks like you put the Trex boards on the bottom but in video #5 it looks like you put some 2 x 6's on the bottom? You have cement boards on the sides and top but what did you put on the bottom? Thanks
bjbhehir thank you, the bbq is only steel studs and trex at the bottom. I stacked the trex board in some areas to help level the island. I covered the bottom from the inside, I ended up buying redwood fence board and cutting it to size for the inside. Hope this helps
D.I.Y Eddie Thanks for the fast response, I was thinking of putting cement board on the bottom, why did you use wood?
bjbhehir I was going to add cement board but it was too weak without further supports and cost was a big variable. I believe i spent $35 instead of $250+ for cement boards and supplies. The redwood is holding up great and gives great support to the items i put inside the bbq island including the propane tank
Sounds good DIY Eddies, thanks for all your help!!
Looks great Eddie,
Quick question how did you know how deep or flush to mount your electrical boxes .
thirsty az thank you, the electrical boxes had a mounting tab that I screwed directly to the metal studs. I believe they are set to 5/8 drywall, so they stick out past the studs. Hope this helps
D.I.Y Eddie awesome thx how's everything holding up? You had the best video out there for me to follow.
Where did you get the stainless steel drawers and such
thirsty az thanks, its been great I just have to apply more oil to the countertops. I found the drawers and doors on Ebay, no rusting and great quality rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F182039542641
Check out my other videos on my youtube channel !
D.I.Y Eddie Hi again, I had another question about your electrical boxes. Where did you purchase the ones with the side mounting brackets? Also, are they weatherproof or just metal boxes? Thank you
Do you have to use a cement board to build a wooden Bbq Island? It is an electric Grill so can I just build the Island out of wood.
Question for you on the doors and drawers. What height from floor are they?
I believe i had them at 6-8" off the floor, the drawers I adjusted to my height for easy access not sure exact height
Which screws you used to mount boards onto the frames?
Nvm, answer to that is at 3:18
Hey there. Was wondering… What’s the best Screw to use for Cement Board to Metal studs? 20 Gauge. Thanks.
there are a lot of options but i used the hardibacker coated screws
Can you install stacked stone directly onto the perma board or do you need to do like scratch coat on the board before applying stone
Todd Rigdon Great question, yes you can apply tile, stone veneer or thin brick to permabase for exterior use. Make sure you get a good polymer modified adhesive mortar (like versabond lft for example). Nationalgypsum.com has great information on permabase cement board
What gauge are studs/frames you are using? What is the recommended gauge?
I used 20 Gauge studs, and spaced every 16
Great video Eddy what's the height from bottom to top
nigel ramroop thank you, i believe the height was 38" to the top of concrete. Indoor Kitchens end up usually around 36"
nigel ramroop thanks for watching check you my other videos!
Did you adjoin the separate modules together the same way you did the end pieces? I’m at this step and I’m having the hardest time putting the modules together flush.
I screwed them together from the ends and sides, there is 3 separate sections in total
D.I.Y Eddie I understand. I’m sorry, I’m having a hard time forming the question. When you attached the modules together, were you concerned with the back of the screw interfering with them being flush. The way you were when you joined the corner pieces? Or did you simply just screw them together?
@@ScienceFitInsights i just lined them up and screwed together, there shouldn't be much a gap at all. The cement board takes care of any gaps or inconsistencies you might have
Would you recommend just use wood stud?
I wouldn't personally use them for a BBQ project, steel studs are easy and great to use for this type of project. Pros use studs or aluminum framing
hi, did you screw the studs to the floor?
I screwed the studs to the composite board
I have pavers as a foundation, how would recommend to secure the base to it?
Jes Bauman as long as the pavers are installed correctly the weight of the outdoor bbq should be sufficient. I did not secure my bbq to the concrete. I would recommend more composite boards at closer distances to help distribute the load
D.I.Y Eddie ok thanks, also do you shime between the composite board and metal frame to level it out and what do you use for shimes since it's outdoors.
Jes Bauman yes i did use shims, the local hardware store has composite shims, i then drive a screw to hold the shim in place.
Hi, Great Video! I'm curious how much is the total cost for the finished product?
yunaer yu thank you, I spent around $3300 usd for everything. Check out my other videos
What do you call the actual metal "2x4s"? Do you have a link to them?
Galvanized steel studs, 20 gauge bottom is called a track. Local drywall suppliers should carry these. Big box stores only carry 25 gauge which is way to thin
Hello,
Did tape all the cement board joints and corners? Thanks!!
bjbhehir yes I did, I used reinforced mesh made for cement board.
@@d.i.yeddie6075 I had this same question. I'm finally up to this point on my project. I'm wondering whether I need to use joint compound over the tape? Did you also use joint compound or did you just use the mortar for the tile? Thanks!!
@@bklyn2va2dc I used modified thinset for the joints along with cement board mesh tape for the corner joints and board ends
D.I.Y Eddie. Ok. How/why did you modify the thinset?
@@bklyn2va2dc its a modified - fortified mix to give it strength, ability to withstand temps and weather outdoors and it sets quick in all types of weather. www.homedepot.com/p/Custom-Building-Products-VersaBond-Gray-50-lb-Fortified-Thin-Set-Mortar-MTSG50/100162542
I’m curious can u use those boards on the surface for a pizza oven and then insulated ? Will they hold the weight ?
I wouldn't put it by itself maybe put doen some plywood and then the board ontop then insulate. The cement board is in no way able to support on its own unless you put a slab or reinforce someway
@@d.i.yeddie6075 thank you
I did a secure 2 brick column and then was planning to put the board then insulation then oven floor . Should I put plywood first u think?
@@shehadeh751 are you putting a counter top ? The cement board doesn't hold weight at all, its concrete compressed with fiberglass and netting. I would recommend over building than it falling through.
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Finis Barker not sure I understand your question correctly but I made the bbq from metal studs. There are companies that sell framing kits for $3000+
Do you need bracing for a the drawers and grill insert?
The frame provides bracing for the drawers and grill. Check out my first video where I framed the bbq Island
So the grill insert is supported all around the top? Ive watched all your videos
@@StevenPfeiffer yes the bbq sits on top of the island top, the cross bracing, frame and counter helps support the weight of the bbq
Tiene para la florida
No vendo el bbq nomas enseñe como yo construyi el mio, gracias por mirar mi video
Quick question. Do you have problems with water getting inside the grill area?
No water has gone inside the unit
That's good one of my client got his custom made by a company but we had some rain in socal and the water just comes between the grill and top of the island do you have any recommendations for water proofing that?
@@TheXxedwin818xx i used clear silicone sealant to hold mine down and help any water from coming in on the edges of the bbq. I wonder if the bbq itself has a faulty design. Do you know where the water is coming in from?
@@d.i.yeddie6075 nice, I've been water proofing the other stuff like sinks but I wasn't sure if you could use silicone near grill because of heat. It's not anchored or set you can literally just pull out the grill. Its leaking where the grill would touch the island. I see you have the open space on you're island for the grill, so imagine where the grill touches the island that's where a ton of water just gets in
@@TheXxedwin818xx i havent had any problems with the silicone around the edges touching the counter tops, yes the specs required a ventilation spacing under the bbq
WHERE DID YOU BUY THE METAL STUDS FOR FRAMING AND HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT SIZE CUTOUT FOR THE GRILL THANKS
For the metal studs I located them locally in my area. Google for "drywall suppliers" and as far as the bbq cut out is concerned each BBQ is different. First you need to buy the appliances, doors and bbq you want to install. Each item should have its cutout specifications. I looked in the user/ installation manual for my cut out
Nice job on the island but try to slow down your camera movements. Hard on the eyes.
Thank you, i was filming on my phone I got a tripod to help stabilize the video
How much would it cost or you would charge to do this build?!
It cost me around 3400 to build it
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What is the width?
And height?
I believe it was 37" height and 24" width
@@d.i.yeddie6075 thank you
You're just showing updates not how to's. By the title I was looking for how to
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