Why Dice Rolls Are NOT The Reason You're Losing 40K Games
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Why dice rolls aren't the reason you are losing your 40K games and how to use bad rolls to your advantage. How to stop relying on your rolls and start relying on your ability to play the game.
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If you want to improve your game, this is the best advice you can get. Don't blame your dice. I had a game yesterday, I played CW against DG. I lost by 1 point. On the last turn, I needed to make a 3+ save with a reroll, to deny him 3 points on Grind them down. I failed. But, I did not lose because of that. I lost, because 2 turns before, I didn't move my Serpent to hold an objective, that was -5 on my primary. I lost, because on turn 4 I forgot that I only have units in 2 table quarters, and I could have redeployed my spiders to be in 3. -2 points on my secondaries. On the last turn, instead of moving my jetseer into the 4th table quarter for an extra points on Engage, I moved him to an objective, that I didn't need to hold (I went second). All those decisions lost me the game, not that single roll at the end.
One of the worst games I played was a few weekends ago. Other guy did nothing but complain about his dice all game long as he proceeded to table me. Complete conformation bias through-and-through...only remembering the handful of poor rolls instead of the 3+ hours of rolling absolutely amazingly.
Oh man you would not like playing here then. Where I live it is socially unacceptable to show you are winning or doing good. We are well known for every meeting starting with either party say what bad happened to each one if them , since the last time they saw each other, sprinkled with a list of health issues either person have and if you don't have any you list those your kids or parents have. Someone saying they are doing great is seen as kin to disrespecting the other people, trying to step out of the line , grand stand as being better then everyone else , because you do good. It is a region thing to , people in other countries around us do the same thing. We just do it the most.
@@piotrjeske4599 I think you misunderstood. The guy was winning...by a lot...but couldn't stop complaining about how bad his dice were (when in-fact his dice rolls were amazing.)
Most of the time anyway. Had a game the other week, even my opponent commented that I should have won the game, but I couldn't roll a 3+ to save my life all game. When you roll 7 dice and get 7 1's and 2's, there's not much that better playing will help with.
dice will definitely win you or lose you SOME games. but not most.
this, i've lost land raiders (4th edition playing) to lucky 6's lsot entire squads missing those very same 3+ saves, rolled 2 1's aganist a sentinel while using a melta-gun the list goes on....
My buddy's hellblaster that rolls trip 1s disagrees.
Ah, a mini of culture.
He shouldn't have overcharged then. It's best to have a captain tag along with them if overcharging.
@@sevatorion7975 That's like saying he should have just rolled 6s. He was shooting Brostodes so seemed like a good choice till it wasn't.
@@randallmusgrave5138 Hellblasters are a very good unit though. Including in many tournament lists.
@@sevatorion7975 That's a very odd sequitur with no bearing on what has been discussed.
One thing you mentioned in this video that you do in several others is declaring your intent. I don't know how many times I do this and still get questioned by opponents or have them argue why I'm not rolling a 3" charge for example. I only wish other players used this verbal tactic more often.
When its your job to play toy soldiers bad dice dont matter as much as they do to someone who only gets to play a few times a month. Sure playing a hundred games might mean more balanced luck, but when you play twice a month that could take over 4/5 years.
My goodness, I needed this. Thanks for the video!
Great advice, but the video is really out of focus from the front. I would recommend a re-upload with a more clear front shot as it makes it hard to watch even in HD.
Totally agree, great video. The list building stage to be able to control objectives and do secondaries has a massive impact.
8 = Khorne
Advance rolls of 1 can mess your "move move move" to an objective
It’s like playing poker well. You can play amazing and still have a terrible game. To see if you are actually playing well you needs to look at 100 games. If you’re still losing it’s not a luck issue but a strategy issue.
The Dice Gods will have your soul for this video!!!
This are great points all.
Thanks Stephen! Love your work.
It's my shirt that's not right enough, isn't it? Just kidding as the others give you a hard time during your live games.
One of the best 40K channels out there!
Well, I have deffinitly lost and won games because of bad or good dice rolls, but then I have also lost games where I have had better than average dice, or won when I have had worse.
Have had a couple of games where over 50% of my dice were 1s, they did not go so well, have done that I'd d&d as well, but that does not matter so much, but it's impressive.
ok guys it’s not the dice rolls ok if you rolls 1 all time miss everything failed charging rolls etc it’s not the dice it’s you ok 👍
TO BE FAIR I lost an ENTIRE squad of Custodian Wardens to a HALF Squad of Skitarii in MELEE because they saved the 3 of my hits that actually landed 😭😭
Twin volkite colverin on a CHAOS CONTEMPTOR DREADNOUGHT killed my 9 lychguard in one shot because i rolled 10 times a 1 or a 2 and only one dice was above 3 on my save. (My lychguard had only a 3+ because some deathguard rule)
Such a thing may only happen less than once in 5000 rolls.
Turn 2 i lost 250 points of my 2k army and the game was insta lost.
If you *instantly* lose a game on the second turn by losing a 250 point unit, I feel like there's a lot more going on which contributed to your loss than just some unlucky rolls.
@@TheSnek901 until that point i was leading the game, but with my melee elite killed like that there was no way to come back.
In a normal game i would have lost 4-5 lychguard in that shooting phase, and they would have eaten a lot more enemy shooting. However, this way it opened up all of the other Deathguard to shoot at new targets. This was the turning point, and because of this there was nothing i could do to come back.
But there is still SCP 3973 ...
True. I can't remember, the last time I lost entire game because of a single dice lost.
No it's worse it is power creep.
Not sure how that is possible since I have not played with or against any 2021 codex.
@@he1ar1 But I have, and it exists between old codexes as well.
Great stuff
the comment about advance rolls not being that important is only true for some armies. 9th ed. Orks being a notable exception. when you declare a waaaagh, rolling hot on 5 or 6 dice can be the difference between an early win or loss. the general spirit of the message definetely tracks though.
You loose because games workshop can’t balance a tabletop game for a damn. But good advice!
well, dice dont solve my poor decision making, so yeah, its dice fault
same lol
I'm going to suggest all the people who will write in the comments that they indeed have bad luck, and are convinced they lose by that to read a book called How we know what isn't so: The fallibility of human reason in everyday life. By Thomas Gilovich
Cool
Its your not playing totally op lists
Havent watched it all yet, but yes, I do loose alot of games because of dice rolls. I'll go to a tournament and loose 3/3 games and only 2 of those have average or better dice rolls. If I roll above average i almost always utterly crush my opponent and I end up feeling bad.
The reason I'm loosing is the fact that I random casual lists and I end up facing DG terminator bombs with Mortarion ^^ What can those 30 DA and 12 Banshees do against such power :') The fact that my Farseer kept on failing all psychpowers even with rerolls didn't help either :P
Try having a discussion with opponents about what 'power level' of game you're wanting to have. This game is fun on way more levels than just competitive.
Oh how wrong you are. I've lost games where I've had map control all because I can't roll higher than a 1. My last game, that I rage quit mind you, I was ahead, not by much, but enough, well, I attacked my friends 3 deathshroud terminators with 7 of mine, the Sargeant with a power sword and the other 6 with chain fists. I charged in after shooting them with 28 bolt guns and not killing or wounding a single one, I hit him with 18 chain fist attacks and 4 power sword attacks. I rolled 21 1's out of 22. Then the one wound failed with a wound roll if 1. He then retaliated and killed 3 terminators. That cost me a point as his terminators had obsec and mine did not. On his fight phase, I fought first. Exact same thing happened to me and he finished off my squad. Across the map, I shot mortarion with 8 Las cannon shots hitting on 3s and wounding on 3s, 2 multimelta shots that hit on 3s and woind on 4s, and 2 rockets with krak missiles that hit on 3s and wounded on 4s. I rolled 8 1s on the hits for all my las cannons, I managed to hit with the rockrts and wound with one. But rolled a 1 for the damage roll. Missed all the multimelta shots with 1s and 2s. I'm not exaggerating or making anything up. My buddies were in disbelief. One even ran the numbers and couldn't believe it. Thing is top, this is a very normal and consistent thing for me. I've constantly taken control of maps, but never am able to hold points because of my rolls. So in all honesty, no, this video isn't at all true. I'm living proof that dice most certainly play a roll in winning and losing games. I've been tempted to record my games to prove that my rolls are trash. I love this hobby to death and I don't ever see myself not playing it. But those dice broke me that day. I was gonna toss them in the trash as I've done in the past. My buddy stopped me and instead took them home. I now have new dice and I still can't roll higher than a 1.
As someone who regularly gets such insanity as ten 1s on 10d6 but absolutely facerolls any opponent if I get so much as average rolls, I can assure you it really is.
“In Medio stat virtus” Same for dices, of course, they can't be the only reason but if you keep roll under the average results there will be consequences in the game. At the same time if your opponent keeps score higher than the average result thing will change during the battle. Imho ofc.
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What a bullshit. Sure, if I hit on 2 and i got double 1 2x times, bullshit