Yes, we can at least guess from some typical featuers - but Finnish dialects are not very difficult to understand generally, so if one knows one, it is easy to understand the others. Within a few hours of speaking, you have picked up what you need, and if there is one word that you don't get, you can easily ask: mitä se tarkoittaa? ( = What does it mean?) Some slang, which is meant to be incomprehensible for outsiders, can be a lot more enigmatic... but only small groups speak them, and all Finns have a good education and can speak standard Finnish. Finland has one of the highest rates of literacy in the world and one of the lowest rates of dyslexia - and manages well in comparative tests, internationally, when it comes to education. And all Finns I know have compassion for struggling language learners - aint I right!?
That's not anything special for Finnish - that's similar in all languages I have tried to learn. The contractions and dialectal adaptations come with practice. We even learn about them in Latin, because they were used in ancient poetry, for the sake of rhytm and rhyme. True, there are so many videos and material. I'll add some above. Good luck to Mauro!
We know what part of Finland someone is from just by hearing they talk something. For example the word for "I" is in western Lapland, Karelia and Savonian area "mie", in bothnia it is "mää" and mostly everywhere else "mä". Of course we all write it same way, "minä".
Not only the word me becouse as you said it only can tell very little about where you are from. In Kainuu and in helsinki its "mä" but totally different areas. Its more about the dialect as awhole
I would say that it is impossible to learn Finnish so well that you would pass as a native longer than perhaps 10-20 seconds if you are an adult. If not grammar, your pronounciation will reveal your foreign origin. Children under 10 years old (when they move to Finland) usually learn it well enough to pass as a native if they go to FInnish school. On the other hand Finnish is quite forgiving for grammatical errors. You are usually understood quite well even with several grammar errors in your sentence.
That's about truth, but about practice: it is not important to sound "native" - maybe a possible spy will try to do that, but tourists, immigrants, any friends, can just relax, and enjoy Finnish relaxed hospitality and sincere relationships. Use your hands, too, gestures help a lot! It is much appreciated, that somebody is interested in Finnish culture and the language, without always pointing out that Finnish is weird. It is a natural language and all languages have ways to communicate what is important, even if different ways.
@@DNA350ppm Which pretty much sums up why Finns speak such good English. Why anyone not living in Finland wanting to learn the language anyway is beyond me.
@@mikitz It seems to me that there could be reasons on many levels - many would like to live in the happiest country (hopefully not more than a few thousand a year 😁 ) - many want to live in Finland if they find a spouse from Finland; the best country to become a mother in 😍 then the babies go to kindergarten and school and learn Finnish, so the parents want to suport that - many want to come and study in high quality education, and some want to stay, study more, get a job, and evidenty many find a spouse 👩🔬👨💼👷👩🏭 a few special education-paths require Finnish - foreign men like Finnish women, and foreign women like Finnish men - it's both about looks and an equality mindset - but one has to show that it's about a serious relationship - one way is to learn the language -👩❤👨 - some nerds just want to learn about what is labelled a very difficult language, but that truth of that statement depends on many variables 🧠 - maybe Finnish is not very easy for some people who are lazy and have much primary education to catch up with. But if you are not lazy and not prejudiced, you can get all the education and support you need to learn anything in Finland. Just work hard and you can do it. Check you tube and you'll find many many examples of successful persons from all over the world! Just the mindset to wnat to come to Finland and simply live off social security has no chance of ending well. So start learning Finnish and many doors opens for you!!!
True - the method to learn is working with whole phrases and short sentences. Anyone can do it. If you also know French, your have all the sounds you need, only more simply written!
you are well aware of finnish language and finding it actually rather easy to understand hehe. at 10:50 i see this :) yes, we have "weird" way to type the context we are telling to others, but in same time it is very neutral and meaningful without anything unnecessary like "a or an" or other things like in english hehe
Nice work man and nice to see that the fact that finland and finnish exists has became somewhat known among people. Itali is cool also. And the question that he asked, yes we can know where the person is from from the speak, sometimes we even can know from what town he or she is from
As a matter of fact, Italian only has one case, like French, as the number concerns how nouns are declinated, not personal pronouns. However, cases are not difficult in themselves - just think about them as a substitute for prepositions. In Finnish, there is the one basic case for a subject (which is what you have in Italian), one for possession, the two cases for objects that were mentioned in the video, six that have to do with location (in, into, out, out of, at, on), and then five more that, to be honest, are not really that important in everyday use. For example one of those is usually not used - the preposition 'ilman' is used instead: 'senza machina' is usually said 'ilman autoa' - not 'autotta'. This is of course a bit of a simplification, but so is the use of prepositions in any language. PS. There is a channel by an Italian who has learned Finnish (and a lot of other languages): linguaEpassione. Could be helpful for you.
Even kids speak Finnish so it´s not that hard.😜 But still we have a website and a phone number where you can ask questions about language/ qrammar when in doubt.🙈 I´ll link here linguaEpassione`s video where he shares how he learned Finnish if that could help you in any way. ua-cam.com/video/TL3LsXVKbWU/v-deo.html 👋
And to answer his question: yes, we can often hear where in Finland someone is from.
Yes, we can at least guess from some typical featuers - but Finnish dialects are not very difficult to understand generally, so if one knows one, it is easy to understand the others. Within a few hours of speaking, you have picked up what you need, and if there is one word that you don't get, you can easily ask: mitä se tarkoittaa? ( = What does it mean?)
Some slang, which is meant to be incomprehensible for outsiders, can be a lot more enigmatic... but only small groups speak them, and all Finns have a good education and can speak standard Finnish. Finland has one of the highest rates of literacy in the world and one of the lowest rates of dyslexia - and manages well in comparative tests, internationally, when it comes to education. And all Finns I know have compassion for struggling language learners - aint I right!?
Also spoken Finnish is lot lot lot different than written Finnish 😁 Lots great videos about Finland 😊 Greetings from Finland
Indeed. I dont know = en minä tiedä = emmätiä
That's not anything special for Finnish - that's similar in all languages I have tried to learn. The contractions and dialectal adaptations come with practice. We even learn about them in Latin, because they were used in ancient poetry, for the sake of rhytm and rhyme.
True, there are so many videos and material. I'll add some above. Good luck to Mauro!
@@DNA350ppm Yes, but spoken Finnish differs from written language more than most of languages.
We know what part of Finland someone is from just by hearing they talk something. For example the word for "I" is in western Lapland, Karelia and Savonian area "mie", in bothnia it is "mää" and mostly everywhere else "mä". Of course we all write it same way, "minä".
Not only the word me becouse as you said it only can tell very little about where you are from. In Kainuu and in helsinki its "mä" but totally different areas. Its more about the dialect as awhole
If anything, differentiating Savonian from N-Karelian can be really hard (even the locals can't see much difference anymore).
English: A dog.
Swedish: What?
English: The dog.
English: Two dogs.
Swedish: Okay. We have: En hund, hunden, Två hundar, hundarna.
German: Wait, I wan’t to try it too!
English: No, go away.
Swedish: No one invited you.
German: Der Hund.
English: I said go away.
German: Ein Hund, zwei Hunde.
Swedish: Stop it!
German: Den Hund, einen Hund, dem Hund, einem Hund, des Hundes, eines Hundes, den Hunden, der Hunden.
Finnish: Sup.
English: NO.
Swedish: NO.
German: NO. Finn, you go away!!
Finnish: Koira, koiran, koiraa, koiran again, koirassa, koirasta, koiraan, koiralla, koiralta, koiralle, koirana, koiraksi, koiratta, koirineen, koirin.
German: WHAT?
Swedish: You must be kidding us!
English: This must be a joke…
Finnish: Aaaand… koirasi, koirani, koiransa, koiramme, koiranne, koiraani, koiraasi, koiraansa, koiraamme, koiraanne, koirassani, koirassasi, koirassansa, koirassamme, koirassanne, koirastani, koirastasi, koirastansa, koirastamme, koirastanne, koirallani, koirallasi, koirallansa, koirallamme, koirallanne, koiranani, koiranasi, koiranansa, koiranamme, koirananne, koirakseni, koiraksesi, koiraksensa, koiraksemme, koiraksenne, koirattani, koirattasi, koirattansa, koirattamme, koirattanne, koirineni, koirinesi, koirinensa, koirinemme, koirinenne.
English: Those are words for a dog???
Finnish: Wait! I didn’t stop yet. There is still: koirakaan, koirankaan, koiraakaan, koirassakaan, koirastakaan, koiraankaan, koirallakaan, koiraltakaan, koirallekaan, koiranakaan, koiraksikaan, koirattakaan, koirineenkaan, koirinkaan, koirako, koiranko, koiraako, koirassako, koirastako, koiraanko, koirallako, koiraltako, koiralleko, koiranako, koiraksiko, koirattako, koirineenko, koirinko, koirasikaan, koiranikaan, koiransakaan, koirammekaan, koirannekaan, koiraanikaan, koiraasikaan, koiraansakaan, koiraammekaan, koiraannekaan, koirassanikaan, koirassasikaan, koirassansakaan, koirassammekaan, koirassannekaan, koirastanikaan, koirastasikaan, koirastansakaan, koirastammekaan, koirastannekaan, koirallanikaan, koirallasikaan, koirallansakaan, koirallammekaan, koirallannekaan, koirananikaan, koiranasikaan, koiranansakaan, koiranammekaan, koiranannekaan, koiraksenikaan, koiraksesikaan, koiraksensakaan, koiraksemmekaan, koiraksennekaan, koirattanikaan, koirattasikaan, koirattansakaan, koirattammekaan, koirattannekaan, koirinenikaan, koirinesikaan, koirinensakaan, koirinemmekaan, koirinennekaan, koirasiko, koiraniko, koiransako, koirammeko, koiranneko, koiraaniko, koiraasiko, koiraansako, koiraammeko, koiraanneko, koirassaniko, koirassasiko, koirassansako, koirassammeko, koirassanneko, koirastaniko, koirastasiko, koirastansako, koirastammeko, koirastanneko, koirallaniko, koirallasiko, koirallansako, koirallammeko, koirallanneko, koirananiko, koiranasiko, koiranansako, koiranammeko, koirananneko, koirakseniko, koiraksesiko, koiraksensako, koiraksemmeko, koiraksenneko, koirattaniko, koirattasiko, koirattansako, koirattammeko, koirattanneko, koirineniko, koirinesiko, koirinensako, koirinemmeko, koirinenneko, koirasikaanko, koiranikaanko, koiransakaanko, koirammekaanko, koirannekaanko, koiraanikaanko, koiraasikaanko, koiraansakaanko, koiraammekaanko, koiraannekaanko, koirassanikaanko, koirassasikaanko, koirassansakaanko, koirassammekaanko, koirassannekaanko, koirastanikaanko, koirastasikaanko, koirastansakaanko, koirastammekaanko, koirastannekaanko, koirallanikaanko, koirallasikaanko, koirallansakaanko, koirallammekaanko, koirallannekaanko, koirananikaanko, koiranasikaanko, koiranansakaanko, koiranammekaanko, koiranannekaanko, koiraksenikaanko, koiraksesikaanko, koiraksensakaanko, koiraksemmekaanko, koiraksennekaanko, koirattanikaanko, koirattasikaanko, koirattansakaanko, koirattammekaanko, koirattannekaanko, koirinenikaanko, koirinesikaanko, koirinensakaanko, koirinemmekaanko, koirinennekaanko, koirasikokaan, koiranikokaan, koiransakokaan, koirammekokaan, koirannekokaan, koiraanikokaan, koiraasikokaan, koiraansakokaan, koiraammekokaan, koiraannekokaan, koirassanikokaan, koirassasikokaan, koirassansakokaan, koirassammekokaan, koirassannekokaan, koirastanikokaan, koirastasikokaan, koirastansakokaan, koirastammekokaan, koirastannekokaan, koirallanikokaan, koirallasikokaan, koirallansakokaan, koirallammekokaan, koirallannekokaan, koirananikokaan, koiranasikokaan, koiranansakokaan, koiranammekokaan, koiranannekokaan, koiraksenikokaan, koiraksesikokaan, koiraksensakokaan, koiraksemmekokaan, koiraksennekokaan, koirattanikokaan, koirattasikokaan, koirattansakokaan, koirattammekokaan, koirattannekokaan, koirinenikokaan, koirinesikokaan, koirinensakokaan, koirinemmekokaan, koirinennekokaan.
Swedish: Breath!!
German: Whattaaa?
English: Okay, now you’re just making things up!
Finnish: And now the plural forms…..
English: WHAT?!?!
I would say that it is impossible to learn Finnish so well that you would pass as a native longer than perhaps 10-20 seconds if you are an adult. If not grammar, your pronounciation will reveal your foreign origin. Children under 10 years old (when they move to Finland) usually learn it well enough to pass as a native if they go to FInnish school. On the other hand Finnish is quite forgiving for grammatical errors. You are usually understood quite well even with several grammar errors in your sentence.
That's about truth, but about practice: it is not important to sound "native" - maybe a possible spy will try to do that, but tourists, immigrants, any friends, can just relax, and enjoy Finnish relaxed hospitality and sincere relationships. Use your hands, too, gestures help a lot!
It is much appreciated, that somebody is interested in Finnish culture and the language, without always pointing out that Finnish is weird. It is a natural language and all languages have ways to communicate what is important, even if different ways.
@@DNA350ppm Which pretty much sums up why Finns speak such good English. Why anyone not living in Finland wanting to learn the language anyway is beyond me.
@@mikitz It seems to me that there could be reasons on many levels - many would like to live in the happiest country (hopefully not more than a few thousand a year 😁 )
- many want to live in Finland if they find a spouse from Finland; the best country to become a mother in 😍 then the babies go to kindergarten and school and learn Finnish, so the parents want to suport that
- many want to come and study in high quality education, and some want to stay, study more, get a job, and evidenty many find a spouse 👩🔬👨💼👷👩🏭 a few special education-paths require Finnish
- foreign men like Finnish women, and foreign women like Finnish men - it's both about looks and an equality mindset - but one has to show that it's about a serious relationship - one way is to learn the language -👩❤👨
- some nerds just want to learn about what is labelled a very difficult language, but that truth of that statement depends on many variables 🧠 - maybe Finnish is not very easy for some people who are lazy and have much primary education to catch up with. But if you are not lazy and not prejudiced, you can get all the education and support you need to learn anything in Finland. Just work hard and you can do it.
Check you tube and you'll find many many examples of successful persons from all over the world! Just the mindset to wnat to come to Finland and simply live off social security has no chance of ending well.
So start learning Finnish and many doors opens for you!!!
Dont worry about the cases. Vocabulary is the most important thing, and we will understand you, mostly. Cases come with time, naturally :)
True - the method to learn is working with whole phrases and short sentences. Anyone can do it. If you also know French, your have all the sounds you need, only more simply written!
you are well aware of finnish language and finding it actually rather easy to understand hehe. at 10:50 i see this :) yes, we have "weird" way to type the context we are telling to others, but in same time it is very neutral and meaningful without anything unnecessary like "a or an" or other things like in english hehe
Nice work man and nice to see that the fact that finland and finnish exists has became somewhat known among people. Itali is cool also. And the question that he asked, yes we can know where the person is from from the speak, sometimes we even can know from what town he or she is from
As a matter of fact, Italian only has one case, like French, as the number concerns how nouns are declinated, not personal pronouns.
However, cases are not difficult in themselves - just think about them as a substitute for prepositions. In Finnish, there is the one basic case for a subject (which is what you have in Italian), one for possession, the two cases for objects that were mentioned in the video, six that have to do with location (in, into, out, out of, at, on), and then five more that, to be honest, are not really that important in everyday use. For example one of those is usually not used - the preposition 'ilman' is used instead: 'senza machina' is usually said 'ilman autoa' - not 'autotta'.
This is of course a bit of a simplification, but so is the use of prepositions in any language.
PS. There is a channel by an Italian who has learned Finnish (and a lot of other languages): linguaEpassione. Could be helpful for you.
Yes, @linguaEpassione guy Stefano speaks Finnish really good.
Even kids speak Finnish so it´s not that hard.😜 But still we have a website and a phone number where you can ask questions about language/ qrammar when in doubt.🙈 I´ll link here linguaEpassione`s video where he shares how he learned Finnish if that could help you in any way. ua-cam.com/video/TL3LsXVKbWU/v-deo.html 👋
i have a opposite case i'm half Italian and half Finnish. (born in Finland) i wanna learn italian but im very lazy xD
You can do it :)
Oi bet 😊
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