I have been implementing this idea, as a person who was once lost in the sauce of details and cool techniques. But since adopting concepts and keeping my jiujitsu simpler. My growth has been sky rocketing. Pair a concept with a well made game and boom. You have everything you need. This is nothing I made. I simply implemented what you have been telling us all along.
Kit I really like your conceptual philosophy towards jiu jitsu and after spending alot of time trying to memorise and drill techniques I am going to apply your methodology in my training. Please continue to produce your content cause it is refreshing and most importantly, "makes sense."
Very insightful. I've been doing BJJ for 3 months and last 1-2 weeks I started learning concepts, and watching fights, and every time I focus on a concept I see improvement in rolling the same day, but I kind of forget them , but the progress is good! Ive been told even before applying concepts that I progress fast (May be due to large striking experience, or that I train a lot), but I get it even more often now.
I like the idea of concepts over technique but at the same time technique is still necessary to apply the concept. I started training jiu jitsu this year and I've only done 34 classes, ok 34 private classes. Why do I count them lol? Well, I keep a log after each lesson, I detail every technique the way it was explained, every concept, everything that was said and shown by the trainer I would have it written down immediately after class or when I get back home. Just a little bit off topic here - before I started training jiu jitsu I was teaching boxing on a part time basis and I had zero experience in grappling. I decided to start wrestling just to see how I would fare at age of 35. I did 67 wrestling classes in total and I was able to pin and win against people who have been doing wrestling for years. My wrestling/bjj trainer in Cuba and I thought that it was my body type and my natural instincts for wrestling that was bringing me success. We never did any conditioning. We only worked on concepts, technique, and live drilling. We discovered that it was me writing down all the concepts and techniques shown in class that was making me better than the rest. I would re-read every class in my log book, over and over, I've read some classes over 20 times and I would practice concepts and technique in my head. Then we would do technique on the mats and I am doing the technique better than people who have been doing this same technique for years and years, and we're talking about something as simple as a stance or sprawl. I go to Cuba to visit family very frequently and while I am there I do combat sports 3 times a week. Now I do jiu jitsu and I have found that by writing everything down that was shown in class and then reading it over and over has helped me out tremendously. I've gone to some jiu jitsu classes in Canada where I have been able to beat some blue and purple level belts with so few classes under my belt and yes wrestling helps but again only 67 wrestling classes.
Go to an open mat. I learn just as much from sparring as I do from normal class, plus it's more social. You get to know people better. But I wouldn't want to lose either one. The normal classes are still important.
Hey buddy he is correct on this. The only other people that teach this way is Matt Thornton ( Straight Blast Gym) Burton Richardson( Jkd Unlimited Hawaii) Sean Sutton ( JKD Unlimited Cincinnati) other wise every one else are based in hours and hours of technique drilling. That's why when beginners role they get hurt because they only know techniques and not the actual concept of movement in each position. Once they role with allivness with no foundation and only techniques they struggle. Once a person in live rolling move differently than what they drilled they have a hard time finding the truth in each position. That's why its better to learn the movement with isolation rolling first before worrying about a lot of techniques unless you are already skilled in grappling. Dale is telling the 100 percent truth but its not popular but he is all facts.
I agree 100%. How do you feel about the concept of Active Drilling by Tommy and Espen up in Norway? What would an example of active drilling be, in your opinion?
Please do a review of the pros/cons of the Gracies Combatives curriculum of months of drilling before free rolling. Your opinion is greatly respected!!!!
Great video again Kit. The Procedural Memory has really frustrated me with an inability to recall all the techniques I have learnt. So, how do you train the Declarative Memory system? Is it working out the concepts within each area? (Sweeps would be take out the post, find the pivot point then load up the bodyweight). Apologies if this is in your AOL videos - am working my way thru them currently.
I really agree with this method of training. I found I progressed so much faster by just going to classes where we just roll instead of doing techniques and figuring out what works myself. Now I'm trying to change those rolling sessions to more specific training. Just gone back to fundamental stuff like those concepts you talk about in your instructionals. Kit could you do a clip just providing some examples of positions which you think are the most important to work on with specific training for white/blue belts?
You've mentioned a few times that you don't train multiple times a day or even as many days a week as the average pro. Do you do anything on the days you're not training? Such as cross training, watching stuff, reading, stretching, buffing your head?
how would this apply to stand up, too? hard to think that you could get competitive judo/wrestling and a black belt level ground game in 4 years. or two, as you suggest may be possible. i've been a blue belt for two years already, i'd love to catapult myself to black belt level in the next two years but i can't see how i could manage it. i've lived and breathed JJ since i discovered it four years ago (i had two 6month layoffs)
I think your idea is amazing. However, I would like to know if think methodology is something you apply to other martial arts like muay thai. Or is this unique to BJJ
Liban Yusuf I do it for everything man! Learning is universal! Almost everything will have some sort of algorithm. For example! If you learn the blues scale on guitar you can play around 90% of all songs. Because they all use it
I do thai, i've never drilled head movement, I can dodge a punch. When I stopped thinking about striking as methods and thought, well i'm just punching a dodging, my sparring improved greatly. For example, get someone to throw a right and freeze, think where you could go before he throws it and where his open if you get me.
@@kitwarchilddale I always compare to learning bjj to guitar, i've realised over the years, bjj mma guitar arent my passion, its the skill acquisition I like about them.
mrtjcombo7 I would focus on learning how to move to a beat, and discovering how many different beats you can move to. Then improvising and finding movements that express what you’re feeling I guess
I can’t remember exactly what someone commented on, but they were saying name one good thing that has came from Australia. I said Kit Dale. I rest my case here.
Dude, you should make a book about Ju Jutsu Concept. I bet its gonna best-selling.
I have been implementing this idea, as a person who was once lost in the sauce of details and cool techniques. But since adopting concepts and keeping my jiujitsu simpler. My growth has been sky rocketing. Pair a concept with a well made game and boom. You have everything you need. This is nothing I made. I simply implemented what you have been telling us all along.
Kit I really like your conceptual philosophy towards jiu jitsu and after spending alot of time trying to memorise and drill techniques I am going to apply your methodology in my training. Please continue to produce your content cause it is refreshing and most importantly, "makes sense."
roltan01 thank you :) please keep me posted
Very insightful. I've been doing BJJ for 3 months and last 1-2 weeks I started learning concepts, and watching fights, and every time I focus on a concept I see improvement in rolling the same day, but I kind of forget them , but the progress is good! Ive been told even before applying concepts that I progress fast (May be due to large striking experience, or that I train a lot), but I get it even more often now.
I like the idea of concepts over technique but at the same time technique is still necessary to apply the concept. I started training jiu jitsu this year and I've only done 34 classes, ok 34 private classes. Why do I count them lol? Well, I keep a log after each lesson, I detail every technique the way it was explained, every concept, everything that was said and shown by the trainer I would have it written down immediately after class or when I get back home. Just a little bit off topic here - before I started training jiu jitsu I was teaching boxing on a part time basis and I had zero experience in grappling. I decided to start wrestling just to see how I would fare at age of 35. I did 67 wrestling classes in total and I was able to pin and win against people who have been doing wrestling for years. My wrestling/bjj trainer in Cuba and I thought that it was my body type and my natural instincts for wrestling that was bringing me success. We never did any conditioning. We only worked on concepts, technique, and live drilling. We discovered that it was me writing down all the concepts and techniques shown in class that was making me better than the rest. I would re-read every class in my log book, over and over, I've read some classes over 20 times and I would practice concepts and technique in my head. Then we would do technique on the mats and I am doing the technique better than people who have been doing this same technique for years and years, and we're talking about something as simple as a stance or sprawl. I go to Cuba to visit family very frequently and while I am there I do combat sports 3 times a week. Now I do jiu jitsu and I have found that by writing everything down that was shown in class and then reading it over and over has helped me out tremendously. I've gone to some jiu jitsu classes in Canada where I have been able to beat some blue and purple level belts with so few classes under my belt and yes wrestling helps but again only 67 wrestling classes.
two years is really fast...ijs. you're concept ideas are pretty good
How would a beginner in Jiu Jitsu apply this concept “methodology” with a instructor which teaches in the technique method?
Go to an open mat. I learn just as much from sparring as I do from normal class, plus it's more social. You get to know people better. But I wouldn't want to lose either one. The normal classes are still important.
Hey buddy he is correct on this. The only other people that teach this way is Matt Thornton ( Straight Blast Gym) Burton Richardson( Jkd Unlimited Hawaii) Sean Sutton ( JKD Unlimited Cincinnati) other wise every one else are based in hours and hours of technique drilling. That's why when beginners role they get hurt because they only know techniques and not the actual concept of movement in each position. Once they role with allivness with no foundation and only techniques they struggle. Once a person in live rolling move differently than what they drilled they have a hard time finding the truth in each position. That's why its better to learn the movement with isolation rolling first before worrying about a lot of techniques unless you are already skilled in grappling. Dale is telling the 100 percent truth but its not popular but he is all facts.
Damnit you convinced me to buy the art of learning mega pack after work tonight. I've had many of these same ideas and I'm so excited to explore them!
Fantastic video! Agree 100%.
I agree 100%. How do you feel about the concept of Active Drilling by Tommy and Espen up in Norway? What would an example of active drilling be, in your opinion?
Swadhin Nanda I know those boys we think very alike! What do they refer to as active drilling?
Please do a review of the pros/cons of the Gracies Combatives curriculum of months of drilling before free rolling.
Your opinion is greatly respected!!!!
Great video again Kit. The Procedural Memory has really frustrated me with an inability to recall all the techniques I have learnt. So, how do you train the Declarative Memory system? Is it working out the concepts within each area? (Sweeps would be take out the post, find the pivot point then load up the bodyweight). Apologies if this is in your AOL videos - am working my way thru them currently.
Hey Kit, I got your Master BJJ course, love it. What’s differing in the learning BJJ course?
I really agree with this method of training. I found I progressed so much faster by just going to classes where we just roll instead of doing techniques and figuring out what works myself. Now I'm trying to change those rolling sessions to more specific training. Just gone back to fundamental stuff like those concepts you talk about in your instructionals. Kit could you do a clip just providing some examples of positions which you think are the most important to work on with specific training for white/blue belts?
BeatOutsideTheBox1 most definitely my friend :) great idea
You've mentioned a few times that you don't train multiple times a day or even as many days a week as the average pro. Do you do anything on the days you're not training? Such as cross training, watching stuff, reading, stretching, buffing your head?
Hey kit.you hit it bullseye.you have established outside university jui jitsu? Is that the same as gracie university?
how would this apply to stand up, too? hard to think that you could get competitive judo/wrestling and a black belt level ground game in 4 years. or two, as you suggest may be possible.
i've been a blue belt for two years already, i'd love to catapult myself to black belt level in the next two years but i can't see how i could manage it. i've lived and breathed JJ since i discovered it four years ago (i had two 6month layoffs)
I think your idea is amazing. However, I would like to know if think methodology is something you apply to other martial arts like muay thai. Or is this unique to BJJ
Liban Yusuf I do it for everything man! Learning is universal! Almost everything will have some sort of algorithm. For example! If you learn the blues scale on guitar you can play around 90% of all songs. Because they all use it
I do thai, i've never drilled head movement, I can dodge a punch. When I stopped thinking about striking as methods and thought, well i'm just punching a dodging, my sparring improved greatly. For example, get someone to throw a right and freeze, think where you could go before he throws it and where his open if you get me.
@@kitwarchilddale I always compare to learning bjj to guitar, i've realised over the years, bjj mma guitar arent my passion, its the skill acquisition I like about them.
Ryan Agar I’m with you on that my friend
At what point/ belt did you transition your self-programming from technique to concept?
John Moulton maybe 2 months in
macro alwys beats the micro
How would you apply this to learn dancing?
mrtjcombo7 I would focus on learning how to move to a beat, and discovering how many different beats you can move to. Then improvising and finding movements that express what you’re feeling I guess
And also watching lots of videos of people dancing. Kit's Monday Morning Mix might be a good place to start.
I can’t remember exactly what someone commented on, but they were saying name one good thing that has came from Australia. I said Kit Dale. I rest my case here.