I don’t know about that but it has to help some people out just to see what’s involved beforehand & hopefully avoid the mistakes that I might make 😬😂😂😂😂
I'm just in the middle of doing this on a mates Jag E pace AWD auto. He had the turbo replaced a while back and then decide to sell it. Sods law and his chain started rattling so he asked me if i'd take it on. Never done one before but we got all the tools and it's gone quite well. Just in the process of putting the gearbox back in now. I'm having to do it on axel stands, no ramp on his drive which makes it fun🙃
I like how you do repairs, you are honest.i have to perform this on a Range Rover Evoque shortly.. my first Evoque..So quite nervous. I was going to purchase all the timing tools, but they are quite expensive for a once-off job. i might tackle it your way.. Thanks for great information
@@philip.aocallaghan4602 I have purchased the locking kit since from eBay for around €100 so that wasn’t too bad and I would probably recommend it to make life just a little easier 🤔🤔
Well done Peter I’ve done plenty of those chains on the ingenium engine Discovery and Range Rover but never without the locking tools even with them I get that mental drum roll on first start up 😅
I have bought it just last week, but I’m a weirdo. I like to see what is involved before buying it. A bit backwards I know 😳 I have another jaquar & a discovery to do in the next few weeks. So at least I’ll get some use out of it.
LR Time is a good channel Peter for them engines. Hes a german lad and his wife. They run and fix landrovers. He actually lifts the bodies off them on his drivecway.😂
I have seen a few of his videos, he is a tough cookie. I don’t really like the landrover brand but if someone asks me to take on something that I have no experience with I usually do it 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
Great job peter . these are good engines great power and fuel econmony, many mechanics or grages in the uk won,t touch these engines in LR or anything else. speaking to one guy in uk he said the problem with these was as simple as they used bad rtv sealer on covers which came off and blocked the oil sprayers caused piston to over heat expand crack and szie engine 😬
Like the Mazdas, most guys won’t touch them. I think familiarity is great when working on engines though. You just learn over time the little does & don’ts. It just the job all in all a better quality repair. Here’s me saying that & chancing timing chains on them without locking tools 😳😳
They are a good engine in design, power and efficiency are top of the tree is what he was saying, component quality and assembly will let any engine down
@@waynemiller4602 its only the odd 1 at that millage its usually 70k and research sujests its more to do with service advice and other factors rather than actual shit engines .
Lovely hurling Peter - you'll become Mr Ingenium chain, to add to Mr Mazda. :-) They'll need to clone ya. :-) If ye get any customers in with Navarra chassis issues, point them my way - 3 done this week alone, they're starting to be auto-pilot repairs at this stage & because the CVRT crowd are now wary of them, they almost all need an engineers report for the re-test - which every one we've done has passed no issue. Be muchly appreciated & might help some lads out.
I see the same thing, once they are welded right with good steel & not painted over they sail straight through. Do you do any welding jobs on cars ?? Like MK1 escorts
@@jamesward5721 I have a 1976 2dr MK1 parked inside with 20 years. It needs to be done & is looking at me all the time. But yet I still haven’t touched it 😔😔
@@kennedysgarage3281 You're not alone Peter - Ford crowd I do a lot of work for have 3 more lined up to come in - all escorts. I told them to hold off for a month before bringing one. Let me forget the hardship of the last one. :-)
Anyone that tackles jobs on their drive or even mobile mechanics deserve respect. I think most jobs would be nearly impossible without a lift. Or maybe I’m just getting too old for lying on the ground and getting wet 😬😬😬
Hello, Peter, I also have a Jaguar xe 2017, I am going to change the distribution kit. I followed your post with interest. I see that you changed this kit without removing the engine from the car, here in Romania they told me that it can only be changed with the engine removed from the car. are the spare parts you used genuine jaguar? Can you point me to a website where you bought them? Thank you
@@dandumitru4186 the ‘Autodata’ advice is to change it without removing the engine, only remove the transmission (gearbox). There is quite a lot of room and it is relatively easy to do. I would advise getting the timing locking kit beforehand, I got that from eBay at around €100. I got the timing kit from a local supplier but I would believe you could get that from eBay also 🤞🤞
Great video, whats a reasonable figure to pay someone to do this, roughly? I'm considering buying one and dont know if its been replaced so will get it done if i buy it. Thanks!
Is it some boy or silly billy. I sometimes like chancing these things to know what I’m up against. It all worked out so happy days. I bought the locking tool after I done the job 😂😂😂
Wouldn't lads keep the service history somewhere in the car. I write everything down in the manual. The Mazda MD histories are all on line from at least 2010 on. The last yoke I bought came with no history but when I checked the Mazda app there it was all up to date.
I didnt notice the 2 broken springs at the back though or that some one had drilled the locking wheel nuts on with an air gun and rounded the bas tards off.😂
Service history can be invaluable on the modern car. Because it isn’t just servicing nowadays, you need a history on all the larger common to fail jobs too. This owner didn’t know and wanted to be safe rather than sorry 😉
@@jrodri14ii lots of people would disagree with me but ‘white tech 7’ is what l find works best for me. I think all engine sealers are very silicone like and not thick enough in consistency for me 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
Manufacturers are trying to make repair proof vehicles so its a diaper 😢use it and dump it what a silly business technique 😢 there was a time vehicles were family members mechanics were happy lads😊 now a days mechanics ate the angriest people on planet 😅
That is very true. It can be so frustrating try to make car repair simple for the customer when in your heart you know it’s a minefield of things that just want to go wrong. Cheers mate 🙏🙏
@@tripled8807 I’m doing one next week so will do a video on it. The gearbox needs to be removed also and this means subframe removal. That makes it a bit more time consuming. But the £2400 sounds about right, good luck with it mate 🤞🤞
I had one of these cars, but I was told by a local garage that the chain was suspect, so I decided to sell it. I got a little bit confused with your marking of the components, but good job done in the end. It would have been a good idea to change the little plastic bung on the back of the engine if it hadn't been changed as they tend to leak.
Hi Matthew, it is a bit foolhardy of me doing these jobs without the correct locking tools. But I usually try my first one without the locking kit just to achieve or fail. If I fail I will need to purchase them before continuing and if I mark as much as possible I generally achieve the desired result, hence marking as much as possible. I find it teaching me something that I didn’t know beforehand, I have since bought the locking kit and will most likely use it on the next one 😉👍👍
I got the locking kit on Amazon after doing this one for around €100. Well worth getting beforehand. The best of luck on the job & thank you for subscribing 🙏🙏
The book time is around 11 hours. Unfortunately I was coming and going with it so it was on the lift for 2.5 days. This was also my 1st time doing one of these. I’d say once familiar with them you’d have one done in a day Trevor 😉
you're correct someone has replaced the chains previously. The idler you replaced already had the vibration, dampening material added to it that didn't come out until after 2019. unfortunately, you used aftermarket chains that probably didn't meet the new specifications from JLR, that improved the strength so they wouldn't fail again. everything including the fuel injection pump sprocket has been superseded.
Hopefully the aftermarket parts are good enough to last 🤞🤞 JLR specifications didn’t work on the original design so who’s to say that the same thing won’t happen with the newer specs. All in all it really is a flimsy set up. I also have a discovery in and the VVT cam pulley assembly bolts just came loose. Is that a common occurrence??
@kennedysgarage3281 yes it was, with a tsb on file. tsb on the injection pump sprocket as well. sprocket was made in China and would split in half. willing to bet the chains were too, and then updated with a harder chain. when you change the VVT sprocket. The mounting bolt must also be replaced.
Have watched a lot of your videos peter,must say they are brilliant, love the way u approach all car problems and u never seem to panic.
Thank you so very much Tom. Sometimes I’m like a swan regal up top but mayhem underneath the waterline 😂😂😂
Excellent work, Peter. Your videos must be benchmark stuff for a lot of guys out there.
I don’t know about that but it has to help some people out just to see what’s involved beforehand & hopefully avoid the mistakes that I might make 😬😂😂😂😂
I'm just in the middle of doing this on a mates Jag E pace AWD auto. He had the turbo replaced a while back and then decide to sell it. Sods law and his chain started rattling so he asked me if i'd take it on. Never done one before but we got all the tools and it's gone quite well. Just in the process of putting the gearbox back in now. I'm having to do it on axel stands, no ramp on his drive which makes it fun🙃
@@mattbettany1174 😂😂😂 we endure some hardship for friends. Well done though & I bought the locking kit too 💪💪
I like how you do repairs, you are honest.i have to perform this on a Range Rover Evoque shortly.. my first Evoque..So quite nervous. I was going to purchase all the timing tools, but they are quite expensive for a once-off job. i might tackle it your way.. Thanks for great information
philip ive got do same job soon where bouts are you , do you fancy a spare set hands ? so i can see whats what before i do mine ??
@@philip.aocallaghan4602 I have purchased the locking kit since from eBay for around €100 so that wasn’t too bad and I would probably recommend it to make life just a little easier 🤔🤔
Absolutely stunning video. I was looking for this video for a long time. ❤❤❤
Well done Peter I’ve done plenty of those chains on the ingenium engine Discovery and Range Rover but never without the locking tools even with them I get that mental drum roll on first start up 😅
I have bought it just last week, but I’m a weirdo. I like to see what is involved before buying it. A bit backwards I know 😳
I have another jaquar & a discovery to do in the next few weeks. So at least I’ll get some use out of it.
"mental drum roll" I'm about to do this in my uncle's garage on my XE. I'll make sure to remember the mental drum roll.
LR Time is a good channel Peter for them engines. Hes a german lad and his wife. They run and fix landrovers. He actually lifts the bodies off them on his drivecway.😂
I have seen a few of his videos, he is a tough cookie. I don’t really like the landrover brand but if someone asks me to take on something that I have no experience with I usually do it 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
Another job chalked up! Awesome as usual and after watching that I think I'd avoid one of those jags! Thanks for the great vids mate.
They really are flimsy, it’s actually easy to see why they fail very often. Thank you for watching mate 🙏🙏
@@kennedysgarage3281 A plastic gearbox sump mid point on a low to ground sports car? Wow, that surprised me considering the price these cars are.
@@crazy-diamond7683 they really are made very flimsy. A service kit for that gearbox is over €500 😬😬😬
There are metal plates covering the underside of car though@@crazy-diamond7683
Great job peter . these are good engines great power and fuel econmony, many mechanics or grages in the uk won,t touch these engines in LR or anything else. speaking to one guy in uk he said the problem with these was as simple as they used bad rtv sealer on covers which came off and blocked the oil sprayers caused piston to over heat expand crack and szie engine 😬
hows it a good engine when chains are failing at 30,000mls...that crap really
Like the Mazdas, most guys won’t touch them. I think familiarity is great when working on engines though. You just learn over time the little does & don’ts. It just the job all in all a better quality repair.
Here’s me saying that & chancing timing chains on them without locking tools 😳😳
They are a good engine in design, power and efficiency are top of the tree is what he was saying, component quality and assembly will let any engine down
@@waynemiller4602 its only the odd 1 at that millage its usually 70k and research sujests its more to do with service advice and other factors rather than actual shit engines .
Lovely hurling Peter - you'll become Mr Ingenium chain, to add to Mr Mazda. :-) They'll need to clone ya. :-)
If ye get any customers in with Navarra chassis issues, point them my way - 3 done this week alone, they're starting to be auto-pilot repairs at this stage & because the CVRT crowd are now wary of them, they almost all need an engineers report for the re-test - which every one we've done has passed no issue. Be muchly appreciated & might help some lads out.
I see the same thing, once they are welded right with good steel & not painted over they sail straight through. Do you do any welding jobs on cars ??
Like MK1 escorts
@@kennedysgarage3281 Do a lot of mk1 & 2, RS's, Capris, fiestas - almost always a ford here being welded Peter.
@@jamesward5721 I have a 1976 2dr MK1 parked inside with 20 years. It needs to be done & is looking at me all the time. But yet I still haven’t touched it 😔😔
@@kennedysgarage3281 You're not alone Peter - Ford crowd I do a lot of work for have 3 more lined up to come in - all escorts. I told them to hold off for a month before bringing one. Let me forget the hardship of the last one. :-)
Is nissan not buy them yoke back from customers
You would have a hard time doing that job on your driveway brave man.
Anyone that tackles jobs on their drive or even mobile mechanics deserve respect. I think most jobs would be nearly impossible without a lift. Or maybe I’m just getting too old for lying on the ground and getting wet 😬😬😬
Hello, Peter, I also have a Jaguar xe 2017, I am going to change the distribution kit. I followed your post with interest. I see that you changed this kit without removing the engine from the car, here in Romania they told me that it can only be changed with the engine removed from the car. are the spare parts you used genuine jaguar? Can you point me to a website where you bought them? Thank you
@@dandumitru4186 the ‘Autodata’ advice is to change it without removing the engine, only remove the transmission (gearbox). There is quite a lot of room and it is relatively easy to do.
I would advise getting the timing locking kit beforehand, I got that from eBay at around €100. I got the timing kit from a local supplier but I would believe you could get that from eBay also 🤞🤞
Great video, whats a reasonable figure to pay someone to do this, roughly? I'm considering buying one and dont know if its been replaced so will get it done if i buy it. Thanks!
How much did you charge sir for labour thank you I know it’s expensive
@@leylaa5272 i cannot remember exactly but it was around €1800 to €2000 from memory 🤔
12 hours..Holy mother of jesus!!
Some boy, well done pete 👏🏿 👍🏻
Is it some boy or silly billy. I sometimes like chancing these things to know what I’m up against. It all worked out so happy days. I bought the locking tool after I done the job 😂😂😂
Wouldn't lads keep the service history somewhere in the car. I write everything down in the manual. The Mazda MD histories are all on line from at least 2010 on. The last yoke I bought came with no history but when I checked the Mazda app there it was all up to date.
I didnt notice the 2 broken springs at the back though or that some one had drilled the locking wheel nuts on with an air gun and rounded the bas tards off.😂
Service history can be invaluable on the modern car. Because it isn’t just servicing nowadays, you need a history on all the larger common to fail jobs too. This owner didn’t know and wanted to be safe rather than sorry 😉
Smart move documenting, doing one of them as they are known to grenade returned 2.2 time bomb,
I hear that they blow up quite regularly. I have another 2 chains to do next week so I bought the locking kit after doing this on 😂😂😂
What do you recommend for the sealer? Did it hold? I’m worried about it leaking.
@@jrodri14ii lots of people would disagree with me but ‘white tech 7’ is what l find works best for me. I think all engine sealers are very silicone like and not thick enough in consistency for me 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
All the jobs I've done, I've yet to do one of these and the worst thing about it. I'm itching to do one!!!!!
This was my first & now I have 2 more lined up to do. The VVT phaser fell apart on a discovery, so it could be a bigger job 😬😬😬
Wow! I can see why it costs so much now
There is a bit of work in them alright, but unfortunately most makes and models are like this nowadays 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
How much you charge for that?
I cannot remember specifically but I think it is generally around €1600
@@kennedysgarage3281 where bouts ireland are you ?
@@jagvolvo33 Co.Waterford in southern Ireland
Nice
@@JattaVictor hardship 😂😂
same as range rover crap poor engines
I know, I have a discovery to do this week 🙂
Manufacturers are trying to make repair proof vehicles so its a diaper 😢use it and dump it what a silly business technique 😢 there was a time vehicles were family members mechanics were happy lads😊 now a days mechanics ate the angriest people on planet 😅
That is very true. It can be so frustrating try to make car repair simple for the customer when in your heart you know it’s a minefield of things that just want to go wrong. Cheers mate 🙏🙏
JAQUAR ? !!🤔
Typo 😳😳, fixed
Hi mate. Just having a discovery sport chains changed. Very rattly.
£2400 including vat. Apparently discovery sport is a horrible job for the chains
@@tripled8807 I’m doing one next week so will do a video on it. The gearbox needs to be removed also and this means subframe removal. That makes it a bit more time consuming. But the £2400 sounds about right, good luck with it mate 🤞🤞
@@kennedysgarage3281 that's brilliant. Can't wait to see the new video
I had one of these cars, but I was told by a local garage that the chain was suspect, so I decided to sell it. I got a little bit confused with your marking of the components, but good job done in the end. It would have been a good idea to change the little plastic bung on the back of the engine if it hadn't been changed as they tend to leak.
Hi Matthew, it is a bit foolhardy of me doing these jobs without the correct locking tools. But I usually try my first one without the locking kit just to achieve or fail. If I fail I will need to purchase them before continuing and if I mark as much as possible I generally achieve the desired result, hence marking as much as possible. I find it teaching me something that I didn’t know beforehand, I have since bought the locking kit and will most likely use it on the next one 😉👍👍
Fam... thank you for this. I'm about to to do this myself on my XE. It's almost identical.
Thanks so much, suscribed.
I got the locking kit on Amazon after doing this one for around €100. Well worth getting beforehand. The best of luck on the job & thank you for subscribing 🙏🙏
Great video Peter - the Kennedy way isn't to bad at all :) Nice motor and good job
Hey Damien, I have another 2 on the way in now. But it is really good to get a few pointers from guys that are familiar with them. Cheers mate 🙏
I wonder who decided to use bicycle chain for these engines?
@@thomasmyers4089 😂😂😂 aren’t they fair rubbish
wow great job,wish i had a garage like yours around here !!!
@@richbdx thank you sir 🙏🙏
I would advise getting the locking kit beforehand if doing it, it would make it that little bit easier 😉😉
Well done Peter. How long do you reckon in labour hours for that one?
The book time is around 11 hours. Unfortunately I was coming and going with it so it was on the lift for 2.5 days. This was also my 1st time doing one of these. I’d say once familiar with them you’d have one done in a day Trevor 😉
Another fantastic job.
Cheers Stephen 🙏🙏
you're correct someone has replaced the chains previously. The idler you replaced already had the vibration, dampening material added to it that didn't come out until after 2019. unfortunately, you used aftermarket chains that probably didn't meet the new specifications from JLR, that improved the strength so they wouldn't fail again. everything including the fuel injection pump sprocket has been superseded.
Hopefully the aftermarket parts are good enough to last 🤞🤞
JLR specifications didn’t work on the original design so who’s to say that the same thing won’t happen with the newer specs. All in all it really is a flimsy set up.
I also have a discovery in and the VVT cam pulley assembly bolts just came loose. Is that a common occurrence??
@kennedysgarage3281
yes it was, with a tsb on file. tsb on the injection pump sprocket as well. sprocket was made in China and would split in half.
willing to bet the chains were too, and then updated with a harder chain. when you change the VVT sprocket. The mounting bolt must also be replaced.
@@JustMe-Dude that is handy to know for the next one. Thank you 🙏
Really brilliant job Peter.
Thanks Michael, isn’t it terrible that newer car bits are getting so flimsy and that’s what we pay hugh money for 😬😬