So with the VCV WT VCO carrier nearly at 0Hz, the carrier is basically stalled at ~0 Hz in the absence of any FM signal. Add the sine FM and the the carrier frequency oscillates symmetrically around 0. At 100% FM depth the VCO linear FM response is a constant 261.63 Hz/Volt. The Instruo Neoni in through zero FM mode always operates as a 0Hz carrier, but the FM response is scaled to the carrier base frequency. So if you leave the Neoni at its default C4 frequency, then it functions the same as the VCV WT VCO at ~0Hz (though much buzzier, at least in VCV). However, the Neoni is so close to 0 Hz that the beating all but disappears. To get the beating you need to add a few millivolts DC bias to the FM signal (make sure the Neoni FM is in DC coupled mode). The Neoni V/Oct setting effectively functions as a form of FM depth when in through zero mode, but at a much greater scale than "normal" FM depth. For both the WT VCO and Neoni, the carrier wave gets folded more and more as the FM depth increases. The Neoni has an odd discontinuity at the folding peak in VCV, and I think that is where the buzz is coming from.
Great video, love the sounds you get through this! I experimented with a bunch of different VCOs with FM inputs. I found two that had the most interesting results with this technique: 1. Terrorform by Valley has a zero-mode FM built in. You can get some really smooth sounds that way, but also have all the wave shaping that comes with the module built in 2. Vult’s Noxious has an FM input; if you put it in LFO mode it actually works, and you can get some fun results playing with the different shaping knobs. Thanks for the video Jakub!
Ahhh, I just recently found you Jakub and I wished you would continue doing videos on yt. It's amazing how good you are explaining things. It is so much fun watching you and being suddenly inspired by you. Whatever you do right now, I wish you all the best! (And if you find some spare time, start a patreon and let me know ;) ) regards, philipp
Very clever! Thanks. I've been trying to work out why it sounds this way though, and I'm slightly unsure how it works. I'd love to see more detail on that.
So with the VCV WT VCO carrier nearly at 0Hz, the carrier is basically stalled at ~0 Hz in the absence of any FM signal. Add the sine FM and the the carrier frequency oscillates symmetrically around 0. At 100% FM depth the VCO linear FM response is a constant 261.63 Hz/Volt. The Instruo Neoni in through zero FM mode always operates as a 0Hz carrier, but the FM response is scaled to the carrier base frequency. So if you leave the Neoni at its default C4 frequency, then it functions the same as the VCV WT VCO at ~0Hz (though much buzzier, at least in VCV). However, the Neoni is so close to 0 Hz that the beating all but disappears. To get the beating you need to add a few millivolts DC bias to the FM signal (make sure the Neoni FM is in DC coupled mode). The Neoni V/Oct setting effectively functions as a form of FM depth when in through zero mode, but at a much greater scale than "normal" FM depth. For both the WT VCO and Neoni, the carrier wave gets folded more and more as the FM depth increases. The Neoni has an odd discontinuity at the folding peak in VCV, and I think that is where the buzz is coming from.
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Great video, love the sounds you get through this!
I experimented with a bunch of different VCOs with FM inputs. I found two that had the most interesting results with this technique:
1. Terrorform by Valley has a zero-mode FM built in. You can get some really smooth sounds that way, but also have all the wave shaping that comes with the module built in
2. Vult’s Noxious has an FM input; if you put it in LFO mode it actually works, and you can get some fun results playing with the different shaping knobs.
Thanks for the video Jakub!
jakub more tutorials please, does not matter if they are not your master level. Other tutorials like Omri's are so boring, we need the real stuff.
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Love your informative videos, don't stop doing them :)
Ahhh, I just recently found you Jakub and I wished you would continue doing videos on yt. It's amazing how good you are explaining things. It is so much fun watching you and being suddenly inspired by you. Whatever you do right now, I wish you all the best! (And if you find some spare time, start a patreon and let me know ;) ) regards, philipp
It's simple but sounds great!
Very clever! Thanks. I've been trying to work out why it sounds this way though, and I'm slightly unsure how it works. I'd love to see more detail on that.
Check the answer of Dave Benham in these same comments.
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Loved it really well explained video
we need more cool tips like these
As always, GREAT tips. Glad to see you back on another VCVR2 vid. Thanks Jakub!
Fantastic tip! Many thanks.
As always, thank you
So interesting!
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Great!
help !!! if i wanted it to play e minor how i would add the quantiseer ?
how beefy is your computer? I’d like to know what specs to aim for
How can I do this in bitwig or ableton?
why does this only work with wavetable oscillator in vcv? not stock vco?
Ah- because its not through zero!
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Hard to hear the bass behind your voice.