WINNING VS IMPROVING (Destiny 2 PvP)

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  • @neonshit1902
    @neonshit1902 2 роки тому +23

    Another major thing about improving is that when you die to something even if its "cheesy" or they had a loadout that was objectively better than yours instead of getting mad at the situation think how you could've not died there
    sure the solution might require you to put in way more effort to win said situation than what the enemy is putting in the kill you but at the end you'll come out a far better player.

    • @BuffGenji
      @BuffGenji 2 роки тому +4

      Ok this is basically what I needed to hear. It’s just frustrating having to put in so much more effort to beat someone just because they’re using an overpowered weapon or ability. Fusions are my least favorite weapon to fight. And when I use one, I don’t feel like I deserve those kills, so I never use it. Sometimes I just ask myself how could I have won that fight. And when fighting these things, the answer sometimes literally is I couldn’t have. I would’ve had to not challenge.

    • @neonshit1902
      @neonshit1902 2 роки тому +1

      @@BuffGenji sometimes that really is the answer.
      You lost because you tried to fight the weapon in its (ridiculously large) range and you should've either played cover or disengaged. The most golden rule of destiny is dont take a fight unless you have a win condition thats consistently achievable.

    • @bensiboy2
      @bensiboy2 2 роки тому

      This is huge! If I’m losing a trials game I am always tempted to switch to a “cheesier” loadout, but staying focused with my loadout helps me improve in the end. Try to figure out what happened. Was I outside/inside my engagement range? Did they get to a lane first and were waiting for me?

    • @andrewgordon3589
      @andrewgordon3589 2 роки тому

      @@neonshit1902 Thanks for saying that. That's gonna help in the future.

  • @bensiboy2
    @bensiboy2 2 роки тому +8

    Great video! As a slightly above average player (I’ve gotten solo flawless in freelance several times), getting better with a challenging loadout helps you improve so much. Stop caring about your k/d and your placement on the scoreboard. A small tip from me would be to get comfortable with a loadout in 6v6, then take it into rumble or survival to actually get good with it. You’ll have way more 1v1 situations that show if you’re competent with a new loadout or not.

  • @Awake_wl
    @Awake_wl  2 роки тому +9

    A few more things I want to say, obviously use whatever you enjoy using, this is just my advice to help improve specific parts of your game by trying to use certain loadouts Also im not hating on playing to win either, it is totally valid to play however you want and use whatever you want to win . This video was more so just to point out that you should you make sure your loadout matches your intentions of playing ..I am just genuinely trying to give my advice and share what I did to help myself improve!…if you disagree with the point of view that’s totally fine you’re allowed to:)

  • @voo__doo1508
    @voo__doo1508 2 роки тому +15

    I’m a smg peace keepers main (shout-out cool cheese) and would love to see a vid we’re u just break down ur movement and some of ur opening lanes at the start of games, lately I’ve found myself just focusing on map play and positioning

    • @jackc3714
      @jackc3714 2 роки тому

      Was just thinking about this

  • @akydan8405
    @akydan8405 2 роки тому +5

    Since I started playing, I’ve always used a build to improve my skills, running hc and shotguns or snipers with warlock, the hardest character to use imo. I never went for the cheesy easy win stuff, I always had a very positive mindset about skill growth despite getting constantly stepped on by stompies hunters or one eyed titans. As soon as I switched to hunter two seasons ago my kd is constantly jumping higher. And then I see some players with 7k hours and 500+ flawlesses abusing the meta as much as possible, melting everyone and tbagging out of nothing.
    Definitely a very good video, something I never saw anyone doing. Cheers man.
    (also good choice for the music, I recognized the original theme from Pokemon Emerald, so many good memories)

    • @cesarbrad286
      @cesarbrad286 2 роки тому

      I used to be like you but I said fuck that and now I cheese with stompee hunter

  • @Viiiiaa
    @Viiiiaa Рік тому

    My lovely friend he was the one what inspired me for pvp and the only one what has patience enough to hang arround with me all the years until now (still he's there thanks god 😂) he used to say to me all the time;
    "Improvement is everything.."
    Well after so many years im indeed using finally handcannon sniper and never ever have something felt better and more rewarding than that ❤ yeah yeah also these days with almost everybody spraying arround with scouts and pulse yeah...
    Thank you for that video and your words ❤

  • @E-Mikey
    @E-Mikey 2 роки тому +3

    Nice work bro! I agree, annoying as it is to lose a game because the other player is using something obnoxious, switching to it or something equally broken is just gonna make the situation worse!
    Not everything in this game is created equally, I think you can outplay almost everything if you play smart but it’s definitely annoying dying to something cheap when you have to put in more effort to use something that requires more aim, positioning or movement. I think hand cannons require all 3 of these to use well and shotguns require 2 out of the 3 (not really aim) as with that loadout you constantly put yourself in danger, over using a pulse or a scout which is just an easy rotate away to safety.
    Hopefully they fix some of the broken stuff soon so skill is more involved with the outcome of gunfights!

  • @pickupdropoff
    @pickupdropoff 10 місяців тому

    Another banger video. Really appreciate the help!

  • @bobwundaye
    @bobwundaye 2 роки тому +1

    Seriously the most helpful videos!!

  • @climb_hazzard5246
    @climb_hazzard5246 2 роки тому

    I personally really enjoyed this and respect the vibes your putting out for the community. Thanks for taking the time to make this video, I hope it helps a lot of guardians👍I know it will help me!

  • @randallcouto2904
    @randallcouto2904 2 роки тому +1

    I agree with you on winning vs improving. Alot of ppl only play to win with the cheesiest loadouts. Your example of ppl using omni in trials was perfect. Now I used to run this setup long b4 void 3.0 , hell since omni came out but I get bored and build something else. I used almost all weapons but for along time I refused to use shorties. I felt like they weren't skillful, but it does require a certain skillset tht you can utilize with other weapons. I don't agree with ppl about snipers( BTW you were hitting some amazing shots). I personally don't use meta weapons, there always weapons tht ppl write off as trash. Like 180's or scouts. Right now I ppl to win, so I don't use hc or shotties but I'll play with any other weapon, I haven't played with fusions in about two seasons just because of the ammo nerf. I don't know if I care to improve because I'm currently trying to improve on apex. Maybe one day. Great video

  • @adamclockwork486
    @adamclockwork486 2 роки тому

    I actually enjoy you this is my first Video of watching you as a player, and god we need more people like you explaining this crap to everyone. I've as a descent player been trying to explain this to everyone not just in D2 but that also includes a lot of games there are habits people make, and it ruin their flow of the game because they gotten so use to playing that way. For me I've now just started using more guns in PvP to get a better handle on them with me use to be (Blizzard Player) HC, Snipers. Now since I've been trying to work on other guns I've improved my skill as a player but mainly people complain that I don't use Meta, and I could get more KD... I don't care for KD I only care with my friends, and I are playing together as a Team! Really dude keep it up I like you.

  • @Sebastian.Van.A
    @Sebastian.Van.A 2 роки тому

    Every d2 player need to see this! I wish I didn't care about this.. it's fu.king rough in pvp atm 😅

  • @BuffGenji
    @BuffGenji 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the vid! I completely agree with the statement that some people play just to win, others play to improve. I like to say I play to improve. Cuz I don’t crutch weapons typically. Sure I used classy restoration, but only if I happened to use solar

  • @renatovujicic2148
    @renatovujicic2148 2 роки тому

    I love it man ...Im already not using wormhusk because healing ...and good advice...

  • @Guitarist4Life89
    @Guitarist4Life89 Рік тому

    This was interesting. Ive seen a few vids on improving and always felt like the advice was vague as its hard to explain how to essentially improve your intuition and instinct, but hearing you explain a practical way to almost force yourself to rewire the way you play by using loadouts that require this level of instinct was insightful. Thanks.

  • @bighak2153
    @bighak2153 2 роки тому

    Great video. Do you recommend a specific game(6v6, 3v3,Rumble) for each load out, or is it best to play a combination of them all?

    • @Awake_wl
      @Awake_wl  2 роки тому +1

      I’d play all of them, they all help w certain things, I think rumble is really good to practice 1v1s where as control is good for forcing you to take on multiple enemies in a short amount of time which are both important skills!

  • @pemker
    @pemker 2 роки тому +1

    A very interesting point of view. Kind of agree, but using solar classes right now (with the seasonal goodies) feels a bit easy. I main hunter and like to go invis - without Omni ( Graviton, Jesters and Foetracer). With solar, especially Wormhusk and restoration, my KDA goes up. So, should I try HC + shottie with solar or go all out and switch to arcstrider? Right now, that would be harder.

    • @alexmurillo6468
      @alexmurillo6468 2 роки тому

      I agree. Using solar is easiest at the moment. My KD has been easiest to maintain cause of solar. Before this season I was an arcstrider main, gonna switch back to get use to it again. Just gonna feel a little sweaty lol

    • @nooch5204
      @nooch5204 2 роки тому

      i main arcstaff even in this meta. i’m almost always using hc shotty. but in trials i will switch to solar w classy. my advice is if you want to improve you can use solar, just don’t use classy or wormhusk. they breed bad habits, bad game sense, and being able to get away with stupid plays you wouldn’t be able to get away with otherwise

  • @bigeasy3923
    @bigeasy3923 2 роки тому

    Good one for a new player like me. I main pulse and HC and now I can tell they dictate my play style. With pulse I die less but have to keep distance to my advantage. For big maps I run pulse and SMG, and HC shorty for small maps. Look forward to educational videos like this man good work

  • @ghosthouse6672
    @ghosthouse6672 2 роки тому

    I’ve been playing warlock the last few days and I really like it running a sniper hand canon or chaperone and hand canon

  • @gwm55
    @gwm55 2 роки тому

    Awesome video! Very helpful. Keep up the amazing content!

  • @anothershellcialistturtle8568
    @anothershellcialistturtle8568 2 роки тому

    I run whatever I feel like honestly if it’s a smg with peacekeepers, any pulse rifle, a scout, maybe a hand cannon.

  • @stephenjablonski6227
    @stephenjablonski6227 Рік тому

    Better late than never awesome video, you have inspired me Thanks

  • @espguitarist13
    @espguitarist13 2 роки тому

    Great vid man, great points made here. I've been playing d2 since forsaken and never have been a pvp god haha. But since 30th anniversary I've gotten a lot better. Been doing a lot of what you have been saying here and it has def made a big change to my game sense. Was always a pulse rifle, shotgun guy. Could never really master HC's. Now I love using 140's and 120's and when I go back to pulse's I feel even more accurate.

    • @Awake_wl
      @Awake_wl  2 роки тому +1

      That’s great dude! That’s exactly what I did as well used to main pulse, switched to hand cannon and now when I do use a pulse I’m much better than I used to be! That’s sort of what made we want to make this as I just wanted to share what I did since it really helped me out!

  • @m0nztam0nk
    @m0nztam0nk 2 роки тому

    Really interesting food for thought…thanks

  • @nou5838
    @nou5838 2 роки тому

    Thank you for this. I'm going to switch it up a bit and hope I can really improve my primary shot. I'm struggling with enhanced rangefinder on austringer but I'm sure I'll get used to it eventually.

    • @Awake_wl
      @Awake_wl  2 роки тому

      Yeah rangefinder actually can be kinda tough sometimes with the extra zoom

  • @runexx3205
    @runexx3205 Рік тому

    love the content

  • @asakapa0003
    @asakapa0003 2 роки тому

    Im mainly a hand cannon main. Ngl its kinda hard this season because everyone is using pulse rifles, scouts, lorentz, specials. Basically no skill weapons

  • @KryaK21
    @KryaK21 2 роки тому

    Well, I can say that even simply trying smth new can improve you as a player. I've always been a sniper main but only this season I started trying a lot of new weapons and builds that helped me improve my positioning, movement, aim and etc. And after 2 month of trying different loadouts and weapons i realized that i started playing much better even with my previous main loadout. I guess i just got bored with it and needed new experience but anyway. All of that experience (and switching from ps4 to pc) with different builds showed me a lot of ways to play that improved my skill a lot. Great video that i would like to see earlier but anyway ty for content and thanks to Cammy for inspiration with trying something new in this giant game

  • @LucianLycaion
    @LucianLycaion 2 роки тому

    I'm in a bad spot. This month I went from being a botwalking jim, to drop +25 guardians per game and top fragging. I don't know what I did or ceased to do to improve. How can I track my improvement? Because I just live in fear it's just a phase and it'll go away.

  • @jambajuice2949
    @jambajuice2949 2 роки тому

    Hey love your vids. The snipe one helped me a lot! Decided I was gonna main sniping this season and get good with it. I didn’t use classy or anything cheesey just straight up wanted to develop my skill. And I did! I get pretty damn good! And now I feel like my skill has completely retreated. I’ve talked to my clan and some people who are god tier snipers and asked what I’m doing and almost all of them said the same thing, “it’s just the growing pains of sniping.” Or “sniping is often 2 steps forward and 3 steps back.” Things of that nature. So I was wondering if you can make a vid or give advice since your such a beast with a snipe of what to do when you’ve hit your rut or “growing pains” with a snipe. Cause this is driving me insane.

  • @cameronbaggett2248
    @cameronbaggett2248 Рік тому

    Facts !!! In my opinion KD does not matter !!!

  • @Fynn-Victus
    @Fynn-Victus Рік тому

    Agreed good points

  • @NobleBok
    @NobleBok 2 роки тому

    I’ve ALWAYS played the ‘improve’ loadouts. Always played off meta stuff too. The hard part for me is EQUIPPING the cheese 😭 I just can’t bring myself to it to the point where I’m kinda throwing choosing not to swap.

    • @Awake_wl
      @Awake_wl  2 роки тому +2

      Yeahhh I lose all the time lol I just kinda accept it, like maybe it’s not the best attitude to have but if I run into a stacked team with 3x Omni LOW I’m usually just like “well these dudes care way more about winning this match than I do so they can have it😂” and I just move on to the next one lol

  • @maxmanjohnson
    @maxmanjohnson 2 роки тому

    Are you gonna do a vid on sbmm?

    • @Awake_wl
      @Awake_wl  2 роки тому

      Actually yes that’s probably the next one haha

  • @sr_papu626
    @sr_papu626 2 роки тому

    But I always play sniper + hand cannon, then what I use to improve?
    Also fun thing that happend to me, I fully crafted the fathers sins, have some fun and then I come back to my Beloved it feels weird, probably the zoom factor and well, Opening shot + Under preassure is quite super forgiving

    • @Awake_wl
      @Awake_wl  2 роки тому

      Then I’d say loadout-wise you are still using one that helps to build good mechanical skill, I use that loadout too but have recently tried shotgunning more to start to work on my movement a bit more ….yeah I struggle switching between snipers as well

    • @sr_papu626
      @sr_papu626 2 роки тому

      @@Awake_wl I guess that could work.

  • @chrono2959
    @chrono2959 11 місяців тому

    Thank you for this video

    • @chrono2959
      @chrono2959 11 місяців тому

      I got told last night to "never queue him to trials again" I've only been playing PVP for 3 weeks or however long since the last iron Banner was and I'm trying to get better I use a Razer orbweaver in a Logitech thumb ball Mouse so it's going to be hard to master but if I can ever get it dialed in in theory I should be lethal

  • @storm4749
    @storm4749 2 роки тому

    really helpful

  • @xquation1364
    @xquation1364 2 роки тому

    I used to be a 1.1 and got up to 1.7kd at trials of osiris. I was using lorentz and eyesluna but I switched to arbalest and shayuras. This meta with pulse rifles, fusions etc make it really hard to improve. Is it gonna be better to switch to a sniper and raise my fov to 105? I have 75 so I can hit my shots easier with arbalest further away

    • @Awake_wl
      @Awake_wl  2 роки тому

      That’s awesome dude good stuff!…hmmm I can’t really say what would be best due to how the sandbox is right now but I will say I do think a sniper is stronger than arbalest but it will also be much harder to use, so if you’re able to get to the point where you can snipe extremely well it could be worth, I do think that if you spent a good amount of time sniping, when you did switch back arby you would probably be better with it than you are now even!

    • @xquation1364
      @xquation1364 Рік тому

      I came across to your video once again haha. I got to 2.1 kd and I raise it a bit every weekend. Sniper is really amazing but fusions and pulse rifle are annoying af

  • @IsSpiffy
    @IsSpiffy 2 роки тому +1

    I am a off META user like I won't use it if its META lol some of my friends make fun of me for it but idc and I really like this video I thought everything was on point but one thing I want to point out is that glaives are stronger than people give credit for that's my load out lol

    • @Awake_wl
      @Awake_wl  2 роки тому +1

      Yeah there some glaive demons out there😂

  • @phoAri
    @phoAri 2 роки тому

    I use hc and sniper for crucible but for trials i have to crutch on the meta in order to win, which just highlights the state of d2.

    • @Awake_wl
      @Awake_wl  2 роки тому

      Yeah it’s rough out there lol

  • @yuruic
    @yuruic 2 роки тому

    this is more like a pvp guide for new light players

  • @rev0kr
    @rev0kr 2 роки тому

    are u a controller gamer?

  • @cameronbaggett2248
    @cameronbaggett2248 Рік тому

    The whole ignorance behind KD is wildly annoying

  • @NobleBok
    @NobleBok 2 роки тому

    Why do I feel like this video originated from my comment on your last video? Tell me if I’m wrong Awake 😜

  • @jeffreyepstein4310
    @jeffreyepstein4310 2 роки тому +1

    Does awake pin?

  • @ilredelnulla9837
    @ilredelnulla9837 2 роки тому

    tbf the complains you get is not for the sniper but for the controller on pc , tbh i hate controller players on pc too but this video is very very good so like and sub from me

    • @Awake_wl
      @Awake_wl  2 роки тому

      They were on console as well haha but I appreciate it bro!:)

  • @galaxybrainjimmy1520
    @galaxybrainjimmy1520 2 роки тому

    "Running away from radar pings" yoooo very underrated, falls under game sense. And don't use ophidians and snapshotsight perk

    • @Awake_wl
      @Awake_wl  2 роки тому +1

      Yeah you don’t get as much value when you use Ophidians and snap together but they are almost necessary in a scrim environment which is what most of these clips are from:)

    • @galaxybrainjimmy1520
      @galaxybrainjimmy1520 2 роки тому

      @@Awake_wl ohh ofc. Was referring to being spoiled by ophidians melee range, Develops bad habits. I cant take em off now xD

  • @anonuser600
    @anonuser600 2 роки тому +2

    Hand cannons have higher aim assist, more burst damage, better ability to peak shot, yet, “require more skill” 🤡

    • @sarnia7559
      @sarnia7559 2 роки тому +1

      That’s unnecessary, just because you’ve got a sad life don’t try to bring others down to your level.
      Yes they have all you said, but if you miss a crit your TTK goes up massively. With other faster ROF weapon types there’s much more forgiveness and it’s easier to compensate. Peek (not peak) shooting takes skill.

    • @sr_papu626
      @sr_papu626 2 роки тому

      Well at least in my experience any Pulse riffle flinch more than a explosive/time payload hand cannon.
      Also Jade Rabbit, popular now, have 80 aim assist, 150rpm, a lot of stability and high caliber rounds

    • @nooch5204
      @nooch5204 2 роки тому

      it sounds like you aren’t good w handcannons and you’re trying to cope

    • @Awake_wl
      @Awake_wl  2 роки тому

      Out of all of that aim assist is the only relevant thing you mentioned to the point I was making, and tbh the difference between HC AA and any other weapon is negligible imo, all the weapons have high AA tbh

    • @brandonhicks2526
      @brandonhicks2526 2 роки тому

      I agree “peek shooting” = passive gameplay. To each his own but imo it doesn’t take a lot of skill, it’s really a personality thing. I’m a aggressive/alpha personality, the cat and mouse style of HC play, is to slow for me.