I've updated the description, but I will copy my message here as well in pinned: UPDATE: It is time to move on with our lives. I highly encourage you to stop defending either of sides, because what exactly happened and who can blame who for what is: 1) none of our business, it's not any of yall battle to fight; 2) you're parasocial if you think it is (get help and stop seeking external validation); 3) doesn't worth the time spent on it from outsider perspective. None of the sides is flawless and nobody in general is, stop having good vs evil mentality. Our actions define who we are and what we stand for, I agree, but it's very important to keep in mind that every life is a journey to become better, wiser and kinder, so everything should be taken in dimension of time as well. If the person actually changes their behaviours to more positive ones with time, then they're on the right track, and since Wilbur never changed and crossed Shelby's boundaries even after she enforced them countless times - I do not trust him enough to be inspired by his works (as a neurodivergent person that handcrafted their moral compass over time), therefore I wont be supporting him or his projects, and this is what this video is about. I am not his "friend", because we cant be friends by definition and it was parasocial from his side because we never ever spoken before, which showed his manipulative behaviour towards his fans, one of which I sadly was. I do also still grieve the illusion of himself Wilbur created, even if less, and I'm deeply sorry for people who still feel connected to his made-up persona, I wish he was the person he pretended to be, who was kind, compassionate and respectful, but I do believe it's time to start letting him go for you as well. Please, you yourself can be everything he didn't actually was but what you deeply admired, you all have fantastic potential inside, and it is your decision to move on towards it (instead of dwelling on what makes you hurt yourself and people around you even more) and stop trying to revive something that werent there in the first place. Thank you for reading, I hope you have a nice day today!
you acknowledge that nobody of us knows how he actually is in real life and yet you mention that if you felt close to him that he has manilpulated you with his manipulative behaviour does it make sense? also its been 5 months why are pinning this comment now move on
@@lenonot4418 that's literally how manipulation works, he made his fans feel like we knew him soooo well (when it was mostly just fake kind and considerate persona and pitiful sadboy music) to make us bond and stay through everything, pretending to be such a nice everyones friend, but now I've learned to see what was wrong and I highly discourage being susceptive to this kind of stuff, don't know why I have to clarify that, I think I was pretty clear about it in initial comment For the second thing tho - it's because I suddenly started getting more and more notifications about new comments under this video with people trying to convince me about something while assuming that I care at all and it pretty annoying, so I had to clear things out Also it's my video by the way, yall the ones who keep seeking content like that to express how much you're unhappy instead of putting the same passion in something more productive
@@wasntdeleted I mean idc what you think about his allegations or anything, but with your point about manipulation for the fans, in that sense every influencer that seems nice on camera then is manipulating their audiance ? like we still don't know how these infulencers move behind the scenes Like you can't call something like that as manipulation every influencer puts a persona, he makes songs that might make you feel a certain type of way, but that doesn't mean that he was maniplauting everybody. if he was so fixed on being nice to everbody he wouldn't act like he did on camera to tommyinnit in the early days for example, where he ignored him etc. that kinda made him look like a douche.
@@lenonot4418 not every influencer nurtures parasociality of his fans the way it was with quite a bunch of DSMP creators including Wilbur, what I'm saying is that he constructed an ENTIRELY different public facade while apparently doing behind the scenes absolutely CONTRARY to what he presented himself to believe in and made a fanbase of naive people who genuinely trusted him, while continuing to talk about how consent matters, and how you should respect other people, and a lot of other things that needed to be taken seriously and not as "saying stuff that I've heard to be good so people wouldn't leave me" But obviously you cant keep actual core seeping into creative process of anything, and we came to conclusion that Wilbur was just playing a mean character on his streams sometimes, being arrogant and inconsiderate but only for the comedy of it, we all thought that hes just playing a complicated and deep character on DSMP and he's a sweet little guy that writes his silly sad music rather than whatever turned to be true There were themes, I admit, there were obvious motives, but the most parasocial of them all were stopping people from speculation, which was kinda a good thing to do in general, but it was done in too much of an explicit way about simple 2+2 things that people could see from a mile away, excusing his every behaviour Thats why we took him understanding the male obsessive character a little bit too much in his "incel trilogy" with unnecessary details as just really good native personality analysis skills, his sudden bursts of anger as him playing it up for the camera and being a really good actor, him harming sometimes Tommy (in vlogs) as a kind of brotherly dynamic, and much more other stuff (I wont be putting in an entire c!Wilbur character analysis here) Thats why most people abandoned him, continuing to silently grieve and process the loss of our comfort space and the other part went even deeper into excusing now his real life harmful behaviours
@@wasntdeleted So you think that he was doing stuff contrary to what he was saying on his so called online persona. Can't argue about that, I mean idk what how he acts irl neither do you, you can believe what you want, because there's no concrete evidence about anything, it's a he says, she says situation.
@@XFadedXSunXthe issue is that when you look deeper into some of their songs, it flat out is Wilbur confessing to some of his wild ass behaviors and abusive tendencies. Which is what makes it hard to listen to anymore, I say that as someone who loved his music and Lovejoy
Noo that’s just wild- I’ve been crying for a while now over this cuz i looked up to him so much, he’s one of the reasons i feel so comfortable in my own skin now, this has absolutely shattered me AND I ONLY FOUND OUT TODAYYY
i know… i’ve been doing the same and i just found out yesterday i looked up to him… and i wish i still can but i can’t… he abused shelby. that’s that. even tho idrk shelby that well… it’s just why. why did this have to happened…
What Wilbur did was totally not ok. It’s abuse and that can not be changed. Just like Aimsey said, it’s not about a cancellation here, it’s about a crime. All love and hopes to recover to Shelby
This is why you never get too attached to anyone on the internet… yes you can look up to them but don’t ever get attached because these things happen very often x
you are just getting manipulated by shubble, she is trying to get rid of wilbur because he broke up with her, don't get manipulated by a person who can't get over a break up
Ngl , yes he was in the wrong , don’t get mad at me for this decision, I’m already struggling with mental health and this situation hasn’t helped , the easiest decision for me is to , either way support both content creators, Wilbur has become part of my life , it’s to hard to let that go , this man has helped me through so many things , whether he knows it or not .. And yes of course I support Shubble here , she deserved better , but when and if this whole thing dies down I’m still gonna support both of them . I feel that this is the best decision for me so don’t come at me :) Edits - I didn’t think this would get any likes … but it already has 5?
lets be honest, wilbur has kinda dug his own grave already at this point. Even if he makes an amazing apology NOW, majority of the internet will still hate him
the one person ive seen wishing the best for both sides, people don't seem to remember that hes been in tons of shitty relationships himself and has struggled with his mental health and other shit which often causes people to become abusive without even realizing it, especially in the form of some kind of loving action becoming more violent (such as wilburs biting) ive been in relationships where this exact thing happened, it was just a bad relationship, not something either of their lives should be ruined for also the apology sounded very lawyer written, probably was also rushed with how quickly the internet turned against him, i feel like thats what ruins alot of apology notes online, the fact that people demand it so quickly without giving either side more time to process really
Im honestly upset, the moment I found out about the whole thing, I froze. I was so angry with myself. Knowing that someone I looked up to for the past 4ish years has done something like this just hurt me. I don't want to be like him anymore. I don't want to hurt anyone and I'm sure nobody else does either. I just hope Shelby can recover swiftly, and I hope everything gets resolved. Its only a matter of time before more horrible things happen with other youtubers we all once loved watching for hours on end. Plus, this isn't even the first set of rumors I've heard. There have been more, and that just pisses me off, knowing that this whole time stuff like this has been going around. I hope everyone can recover from this effect, even the people who called him a friend.
Can someone like give me a quick sum up of what wilbur did? Like I just want someone to get straight to the point of what he did. Just curious is all. (Yes I’m too lazy to found out what he did on my own)
it really sucks that some stupid b1h lied and tarnished Wilbur's image, the internet is full of de3enerates and m0r0ns who just want to see the person they hate the most get the worst punishment
@@Sebmonellahe became an abuser in the form of biting to his ex-gf and his apology was basically saying ‘oh, wow, so cool. I’m going to therapy now! c u next stream!” so basically just like he doesn’t give a -shit- he’s basically cancelled.
@@Nga_i_uwu_yes_fuvk_me_harder so you know, he was never really my friend because he never personally knew me, that would be called "being parasocial" and isn't a very healthy choice, it's much better to form real one-on-one friend connections
I'm in denial, I know it happened and I don't wanna believe it (not supporting him anymore) I wanna cry I feel bad for Shubble and I feel lied to.. #SupportShubble
Me and my best friend were hit hard by this, but especially her. I cant believe he did this. Shes still in shock i think, but i havent felt anything like sadness since i read about it for the first time. I cant fucking believe it. Fuck you, wilbur soot, Shubble didnt deserve someone as horrible as you. At first i was just disappointed, but now i kinda feel like im starting to resent him. Shubble didnt desrve that, nor does anyone else. Im on her side with this. Even if wilbur does change, im not sure ill go back to enjoying his content per usual.
@bullymaguire9707but that’s the thing. Some of us WOULD trust random people on the street without any fame. Some of us are just inherently trusting people. The thing about the Wilbur Soot “situation”, if you can call it that, is that nobody chooses who they trust. Our emotions do. And that makes it much more difficult to decide who to trust. Parasocial relationships CAN be a good thing. Internet people I have never met face to face saved my life last year. But, just like your real-life friends, they have their risks. The risk of someone turning out to be a Wilbur is low, but it’s never zero. Most of the time, you’ll never know it until the truth comes to light. All you can do is regret, support the people in the right, and move on.
nah man i needed this. this fuckin got to me way more than i thought it would (prob bc this was the guy that literally got me through the pandemic and inspired me to start playing guitar n so much more) and all i've seen on my feed is just- well you know. i'm no longer supporting him n shit obviously but its like- hard as FUCK for me. i needed a little comedy to get me through it.
I (used to) love wilbur soot. I would watch his streams when i was having a hard day, even the days were i had found out i was neurodivergent, the day i found out i needed medication for a mental condition. What wilbur soot did is ABSOLUTELY not acceptable, and i am in NO WAY excusing his actions, but it is extremely hard for my brain to wrap itself around it (possibly bc im nd?). It is hard and upsetting for me (and im sure many others) to find this out after supporting and watching this person for YEARS. Im so sorry this happenned to shubble, she did not deserve that #supportshubble
@@Ratman8789 yeah lol its yo gabba gabba, someone made a vid called "wtf wilbur" which used the sound, but alos just yo gabba gabba for the heck of it
Me too, he did made us overly attached to him, but he forgot to take in account how hurt we will be when the truth will be out I hope you're doing alright, it's good not to be attached to a person you didn't knew, it'll be better this way
Really unfortunate, I enjoyed his music a lot and he was so funny in videos. Can’t believe he’d do something so sick. I’m also so sorry you had to deal with that 🫶🫶‼️‼️
I was in shock when i fownd out what willbur soot did, and its messd up what he did im so sorry for his firends, sence moust of them didt think he was the type of guy.
maybe let's not start choosing a side before there's any evidence? there are allegations against shelby for emotional abuse and against the sss for inciting suicide when there isn't even any evidence for what she claims.
Have you not noticed that EVERY cc who personally knew him dropped him? I think they should know better and more than us Also if there ever was a lesson in this whole situation, its definitely "dont be parasocial anymore and dont assume of every cc that they are Holy and Pure", thats why I'm saying that I'm not his friend, thats all, I've learned
@@wasntdeleted we don't know if they've dropped him privately. it would look terrible for their images to continuously support him after the allegations made by shelby and others. i don't believe will is some "holier than thou" character, but there is as much evidence pointing towards shelby being an abuser as there is evidence of will being an abuser.
I feel awful for his friends and fellow streamers, Shubble didn’t deserve that and neither dose anyone else. I hope that Will seeks help and stays away from the internet for a long while.
I would like to say PLEEEASE take care of yourselves guys! I know this can be stressful and scary but it'll all be ok no matter what. My message to neurodivergent people. Its. Not. Your. Fault. I know alot of you ( Being as i am and have friends who are ) have a tendency to hyperfixate on things and if that thing was Wilbur dont feel bad. You cant control that. I have accepted his music was my coping for so much, i only listen to lovejoy for my mental sake. Not because i support Wilbur. My message to people satying neutral. Stay strong. I'm also staying neutral in the situation not taking sides or favoring one over the other. At the end of the day we don't really know these people and they most likely dont know us. My message to the people who feel bad because they still care and want Wilbur to get help. I support that. Alot of criminals are people who reached out for help and support and didn't get it. If we push Wilbur away from the help he needs and send death threats or threats to dox him it's not going to make things any better. To my people fully supporting Shubble. I support that decision as well i hope she recovers and also gets the help she needs. My final message is take care of yourself. My comments will always be open for venting and if you wanna talk privately and just get things off your chest I'll give you my tumblr. Im here to support and help people. Remember. Eat something, drink some water, get some good sleep, seek help if you need it, and if you need to take your meds. Have a wonderful day/night, stay strong, be patient with the ccs and as always please take care of yourself.
I'm really sorry for what happened, but there are a lot people from his friend circle to coming forward about his behaviours, they seen the signs, if this doesn't says something, then I honestly don't know
Personally the best place to look is at everyone’s response if all hits past “friends” are calling him out then he’s probably not in the right and you should support shubble
Alr but from what I've seen things are getting worse for Wilbur too HE LITERALLY SAID HE WAS THINKING/SEEKING FOR THERAPY sure what he did is wrong but seriously I've seen Wilbur get sent death threats and get doxxed like wtf, I'm going on Wilbur's side. Idc how much everyone will hate me Wilbur is and will always be one of my comfort streamers I'm not losing another one over some dumb shit that should've ended as soon as it was talked about
Bro I was listening to the man’s music before I found out about the situation. Things have gotten worse and worse since technos death and some of the people he knew did do, something or is doing something wrong, or not doing things wrong. It’s just disgusting how someone I used to be a fan of did this.
I didnt really care that much about wilbur since i always found him odd and niw i found the reason, i only really was interested on his arg and saw him in quackitys videos since quackity is one of my comfort streamer
I can’t believe he said that. The guy i listen to lovejoy.. my favorite band.. Anyways personally if you have an issue even if you’re big in like fame solve the issue first. Don’t spread it to the entire internet. In my personal experience. There will be bigger consequences to your actions and your life. Also the fact that people make mistakes. I’m not trying to defend anyone here I’m just going to say that keep it to yourself or someone you trust and solve your issues. /:
Lovejoy was my favorite band too. It’s hard seeing your idols being uncovered as criminals. But in the end that sadly something we all have to accept and just stop supporting them :(
Lovejoy was the whole reason i started learning guitar lol I don’t think i’ll stop listening to a couple of their songs but i won’t listen to them often IDK
The streamer Shelby talking about her ex and say that her ex bited her, she told him many time that she didnt like it but her downplayed her feelings, wilbur revealed on twitter that it was him and he made an shitty "apology"
Pretty basic rundown, Shelby (Shubble online) went on stream and talked about an abusive relationship she was in where her partner would bite her publicly and in private, at first only playfully on her arms until it got more painful and started leaving serious bruises, that's when he started biting her legs too to hide the bruises. They had a safe word in place which her ex constantly ignored or would clamp down on the area more, he also had an incredibly dirty house, wanted her to constantly travel to him since they were long distance, he also one time pinned her down and told her to try and get him off of her, when she couldn't he made a joke about how easy it would be for him to just pin her down and not let her go. He'd bite her until she'd shout out for him to stop and then he'd claim he wasn't biting too hard and her pain tolerance was the issue. Shelby kept her ex annomus but people started putting things together like her ex being a tall British man, having ants in his house, him biting her in front of their friends and put together that it was Wilbur, Wilbur then made a (in my opinion god awful) statement that confirmed the biting but claimed it was playful, which he was quickly called out on, and he himself admitted to being a bad partner during their relationship. To add onto this, many of his friends and ex band mates (trumpeter and photographer) have spoken in support of Shelby and are helping her through healing, a lot of their mutual friends have cut contact with Will because of his behaviour. If you're interested, Shelbys VOD got uploaded on here by a second source that also includes Will's statement (and how it seems very gaslight-y) along with Shelbys response to it, I'd be happy to send you the name of it if you'd like
I agree. I don’t support abuse, but I won’t not support Wilbur on it. Specially something with biting, cause I can agree in ways that isn’t abusive to people or anything.
Nuh uh, i dont believe in what Shelby or anyone else said about wilbur being against him.Fuck what people call me, it id not okay to out Wilbur in this type of situation where hr probably wont br sble to leave his house and not being sble to go anywhere.
I'm gonna be brutally honest here. I've seen so much online abuse thrown at Wilbur that I'm starting to feel more bad for him... The multitude of death threats, thousands if not millions of comments of online abuse. And this is to take into account there really isn't confirmation it was abuse too. There's people who have harmed me in this world, but I could never wish the abuse Wilbur has received onto any of them. No matter how bad they were
Wilbur is in the wrong but so is Shubble, I also think she needs to take accountability for causing the suicides of 4 kids. And also her of all people should know that mental health matters yet if you type “mental health matters” in her chat, you’ll get banned.
I’m appalled and disgusted by this, it’s horrifying that i used to find comfort in his videos. Now all I feel when I see him is disgust, he’s wretched for what he’s done. “Out of respect for her” he says while completely invalidating her grievances and pain at the same time by calling is “playful” 😐 disappointing and shameful
I've updated the description, but I will copy my message here as well in pinned:
UPDATE:
It is time to move on with our lives. I highly encourage you to stop defending either of sides, because what exactly happened and who can blame who for what is:
1) none of our business, it's not any of yall battle to fight;
2) you're parasocial if you think it is (get help and stop seeking external validation);
3) doesn't worth the time spent on it from outsider perspective.
None of the sides is flawless and nobody in general is, stop having good vs evil mentality. Our actions define who we are and what we stand for, I agree, but it's very important to keep in mind that every life is a journey to become better, wiser and kinder, so everything should be taken in dimension of time as well. If the person actually changes their behaviours to more positive ones with time, then they're on the right track, and since Wilbur never changed and crossed Shelby's boundaries even after she enforced them countless times - I do not trust him enough to be inspired by his works (as a neurodivergent person that handcrafted their moral compass over time), therefore I wont be supporting him or his projects, and this is what this video is about. I am not his "friend", because we cant be friends by definition and it was parasocial from his side because we never ever spoken before, which showed his manipulative behaviour towards his fans, one of which I sadly was.
I do also still grieve the illusion of himself Wilbur created, even if less, and I'm deeply sorry for people who still feel connected to his made-up persona, I wish he was the person he pretended to be, who was kind, compassionate and respectful, but I do believe it's time to start letting him go for you as well.
Please, you yourself can be everything he didn't actually was but what you deeply admired, you all have fantastic potential inside, and it is your decision to move on towards it (instead of dwelling on what makes you hurt yourself and people around you even more) and stop trying to revive something that werent there in the first place. Thank you for reading, I hope you have a nice day today!
you acknowledge that nobody of us knows how he actually is in real life and yet you mention that if you felt close to him that he has manilpulated you with his manipulative behaviour does it make sense?
also its been 5 months why are pinning this comment now move on
@@lenonot4418 that's literally how manipulation works, he made his fans feel like we knew him soooo well (when it was mostly just fake kind and considerate persona and pitiful sadboy music) to make us bond and stay through everything, pretending to be such a nice everyones friend, but now I've learned to see what was wrong and I highly discourage being susceptive to this kind of stuff, don't know why I have to clarify that, I think I was pretty clear about it in initial comment
For the second thing tho - it's because I suddenly started getting more and more notifications about new comments under this video with people trying to convince me about something while assuming that I care at all and it pretty annoying, so I had to clear things out
Also it's my video by the way, yall the ones who keep seeking content like that to express how much you're unhappy instead of putting the same passion in something more productive
@@wasntdeleted I mean idc what you think about his allegations or anything, but with your point about manipulation for the fans, in that sense every influencer that seems nice on camera then is manipulating their audiance ?
like we still don't know how these infulencers move behind the scenes
Like you can't call something like that as manipulation every influencer puts a persona, he makes songs that might make you feel a certain type of way, but that doesn't mean that he was maniplauting everybody.
if he was so fixed on being nice to everbody he wouldn't act like he did on camera to tommyinnit in the early days for example, where he ignored him etc.
that kinda made him look like a douche.
@@lenonot4418 not every influencer nurtures parasociality of his fans the way it was with quite a bunch of DSMP creators including Wilbur, what I'm saying is that he constructed an ENTIRELY different public facade while apparently doing behind the scenes absolutely CONTRARY to what he presented himself to believe in and made a fanbase of naive people who genuinely trusted him, while continuing to talk about how consent matters, and how you should respect other people, and a lot of other things that needed to be taken seriously and not as "saying stuff that I've heard to be good so people wouldn't leave me"
But obviously you cant keep actual core seeping into creative process of anything, and we came to conclusion that Wilbur was just playing a mean character on his streams sometimes, being arrogant and inconsiderate but only for the comedy of it, we all thought that hes just playing a complicated and deep character on DSMP and he's a sweet little guy that writes his silly sad music rather than whatever turned to be true
There were themes, I admit, there were obvious motives, but the most parasocial of them all were stopping people from speculation, which was kinda a good thing to do in general, but it was done in too much of an explicit way about simple 2+2 things that people could see from a mile away, excusing his every behaviour
Thats why we took him understanding the male obsessive character a little bit too much in his "incel trilogy" with unnecessary details as just really good native personality analysis skills, his sudden bursts of anger as him playing it up for the camera and being a really good actor, him harming sometimes Tommy (in vlogs) as a kind of brotherly dynamic, and much more other stuff (I wont be putting in an entire c!Wilbur character analysis here)
Thats why most people abandoned him, continuing to silently grieve and process the loss of our comfort space and the other part went even deeper into excusing now his real life harmful behaviours
@@wasntdeleted So you think that he was doing stuff contrary to what he was saying on his so called online persona.
Can't argue about that, I mean idk what how he acts irl neither do you, you can believe what you want, because there's no concrete evidence about anything, it's a he says, she says situation.
This whole situation just makes me wanna cry ngl
I feel so bad for Tommy and Phil
…and shelby, right?????
@@ARACHNIDPARTY that’s a given lol
@@ARACHNIDPARTY whoops forgot about her /j
No more Crimeboys or sandduo :< god damnnit I’m crying again
@@shivshankar1409no more Sleepy bois… we just moved on and tried rebuilding the sleepy bois… then this happened.
bro wanted to follow in hamilton's footsteps and did it in the worst way possible
Nah at least Hamilton made a banger song
I mean if you could call this equivalent to the Reynolds pamphlet
@@Nugconnah Wilbur makes good songs-Lovejoy does. I don’t support Wilbur at all, but someone being a bad person doesn’t mean their music is bad.
The Reynolds Pamphlet vibes...
@@XFadedXSunXthe issue is that when you look deeper into some of their songs, it flat out is Wilbur confessing to some of his wild ass behaviors and abusive tendencies. Which is what makes it hard to listen to anymore, I say that as someone who loved his music and Lovejoy
Noo that’s just wild-
I’ve been crying for a while now over this cuz i looked up to him so much, he’s one of the reasons i feel so comfortable in my own skin now, this has absolutely shattered me AND I ONLY FOUND OUT TODAYYY
i know… i’ve been doing the same and i just found out yesterday i looked up to him… and i wish i still can but i can’t… he abused shelby. that’s that. even tho idrk shelby that well… it’s just why. why did this have to happened…
What Wilbur did was totally not ok. It’s abuse and that can not be changed. Just like Aimsey said, it’s not about a cancellation here, it’s about a crime. All love and hopes to recover to Shelby
Wait…what happed what did he do??
@@Yuki.Kat47he @bused his ex (and others) and then decided to make the most ai generated, self centered, "apology" ever.
@@cal.elisee oh…. Thx for telling me..
@@Yuki.Kat47 this whole situation really sucks.. it’ll be okay tho
1 question wheres the evidence?
This is why you never get too attached to anyone on the internet… yes you can look up to them but don’t ever get attached because these things happen very often x
And also you never know if that person is just playing a facade😢 but anyways all the love for Shelby ❤
It hurts a lot with that, not knowing who you can really look up to and trust :(
you are just getting manipulated by shubble, she is trying to get rid of wilbur because he broke up with her, don't get manipulated by a person who can't get over a break up
@@WardenWRD1 I doubt it I mean what could shubble possibly gain from that?, Also other people connected to Wilbur even said he have bitten them before
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NAWWWWW THATS WILD
MY JAW DROPPED
I don’t think he’s anyone’s friend anymore💀
#SupportShubble
@@mandarinka_sunny womp womp, life’s tough buddy
@@mandarinka_sunnyand hopefully you continue seeing it
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Ngl , yes he was in the wrong , don’t get mad at me for this decision, I’m already struggling with mental health and this situation hasn’t helped , the easiest decision for me is to , either way support both content creators, Wilbur has become part of my life , it’s to hard to let that go , this man has helped me through so many things , whether he knows it or not ..
And yes of course I support Shubble here , she deserved better , but when and if this whole thing dies down I’m still gonna support both of them . I feel that this is the best decision for me so don’t come at me :)
Edits - I didn’t think this would get any likes … but it already has 5?
That's so based actually YOU ATE AND LEFT NO CRUMBS FR ‼️‼️
Shut up
i hope both can recover, i hope Shelby gets all the love and help she deserves. and will can change himself and make a real apology
i still fell bad for the death threats will is getting, he dose not deserve that. he did bad things but he also helped people in the past
lets be honest, wilbur has kinda dug his own grave already at this point. Even if he makes an amazing apology NOW, majority of the internet will still hate him
true but that dose not mean that apologizing without using ai wont help@@justchillingin
Nd Niki.
the one person ive seen wishing the best for both sides, people don't seem to remember that hes been in tons of shitty relationships himself and has struggled with his mental health and other shit which often causes people to become abusive without even realizing it, especially in the form of some kind of loving action becoming more violent (such as wilburs biting) ive been in relationships where this exact thing happened, it was just a bad relationship, not something either of their lives should be ruined for
also the apology sounded very lawyer written, probably was also rushed with how quickly the internet turned against him, i feel like thats what ruins alot of apology notes online, the fact that people demand it so quickly without giving either side more time to process really
Im honestly upset, the moment I found out about the whole thing, I froze. I was so angry with myself. Knowing that someone I looked up to for the past 4ish years has done something like this just hurt me. I don't want to be like him anymore. I don't want to hurt anyone and I'm sure nobody else does either. I just hope Shelby can recover swiftly, and I hope everything gets resolved. Its only a matter of time before more horrible things happen with other youtubers we all once loved watching for hours on end. Plus, this isn't even the first set of rumors I've heard. There have been more, and that just pisses me off, knowing that this whole time stuff like this has been going around. I hope everyone can recover from this effect, even the people who called him a friend.
it's all so sad
Yeah, it is sad actually
NOT THE LUDWIG VIDEO 💀
LET BRO COOK🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥
Support Shelby and the victims ❤❤❤
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I think this is a very constructive way to cope
Can someone like give me a quick sum up of what wilbur did? Like I just want someone to get straight to the point of what he did. Just curious is all. (Yes I’m too lazy to found out what he did on my own)
it really sucks that some stupid b1h lied and tarnished Wilbur's image, the internet is full of de3enerates and m0r0ns who just want to see the person they hate the most get the worst punishment
@@Sebmonellahe became an abuser in the form of biting to his ex-gf and his apology was basically saying ‘oh, wow, so cool. I’m going to therapy now! c u next stream!” so basically just like he doesn’t give a -shit- he’s basically cancelled.
@@Nga_i_uwu_yes_fuvk_me_harder so you know, he was never really my friend because he never personally knew me, that would be called "being parasocial" and isn't a very healthy choice, it's much better to form real one-on-one friend connections
Support shelby ❤
He's a true sadist
It's scary too😨
Is it because he has lack of education or childhood trauma?
this is the most realist video ever
I'm in denial, I know it happened and I don't wanna believe it (not supporting him anymore) I wanna cry I feel bad for Shubble and I feel lied to..
#SupportShubble
Me and my best friend were hit hard by this, but especially her. I cant believe he did this. Shes still in shock i think, but i havent felt anything like sadness since i read about it for the first time. I cant fucking believe it. Fuck you, wilbur soot, Shubble didnt deserve someone as horrible as you. At first i was just disappointed, but now i kinda feel like im starting to resent him. Shubble didnt desrve that, nor does anyone else. Im on her side with this. Even if wilbur does change, im not sure ill go back to enjoying his content per usual.
I hate that abusive bastard….I trusted him so much and my respect for a human has never evaporated so fast.
@bullymaguire9707but that’s the thing. Some of us WOULD trust random people on the street without any fame. Some of us are just inherently trusting people.
The thing about the Wilbur Soot “situation”, if you can call it that, is that nobody chooses who they trust. Our emotions do. And that makes it much more difficult to decide who to trust.
Parasocial relationships CAN be a good thing. Internet people I have never met face to face saved my life last year. But, just like your real-life friends, they have their risks. The risk of someone turning out to be a Wilbur is low, but it’s never zero.
Most of the time, you’ll never know it until the truth comes to light. All you can do is regret, support the people in the right, and move on.
@bullymaguire9707his friends like Philza had stated that he acts the same irl as on camera
I feel so bad for shubble and niki.
WHAT HAPPENED TO NIKI?
@@firefox575Wilbur admitted to picking her up and throwing her one time to show how strong he is and niki also said he bites so…😟😟
@@Snad_witchz I swear…
@rosaberlau9376 fr he’s so nasty. I can’t believe I used to look up to him😞
@@Snad_witchz Wait, when did Wilbur admit to that? Was it recently or in the past?
nah man i needed this. this fuckin got to me way more than i thought it would (prob bc this was the guy that literally got me through the pandemic and inspired me to start playing guitar n so much more) and all i've seen on my feed is just- well you know. i'm no longer supporting him n shit obviously but its like- hard as FUCK for me. i needed a little comedy to get me through it.
popped offf tbh!!!!
DEL LMAOO so based
Bro im kinda glad Techno doesn't have to see everything. It would have absolutely broken him.
This man was the reason I started trying to do music and play Minecraft for content, now I’m not so sure about him after what he did to Shubble.
this slayed more than wilbur's half-assed apology
i threw up when i found out because of how hard i was crying >,< (GRAHH I HOPE SHELBYS OK)
DEVOURED, LEFT ZERO CRUMBS
Ugh I’m so sorry for Shelby and other victims. She’s so brave for speaking up about it
I (used to) love wilbur soot. I would watch his streams when i was having a hard day, even the days were i had found out i was neurodivergent, the day i found out i needed medication for a mental condition. What wilbur soot did is ABSOLUTELY not acceptable, and i am in NO WAY excusing his actions, but it is extremely hard for my brain to wrap itself around it (possibly bc im nd?). It is hard and upsetting for me (and im sure many others) to find this out after supporting and watching this person for YEARS. Im so sorry this happenned to shubble, she did not deserve that
#supportshubble
UR SO REAL FOR THAT
WE DONT EVER WANT TO BITE OUR FRIENDS!
DONT
DONT
DONT BITE YOUR FRIENDS
Yo gaba gaba? Or am I being an idiot lol
@@Ratman8789 yeah lol its yo gabba gabba, someone made a vid called "wtf wilbur" which used the sound, but alos just yo gabba gabba for the heck of it
Ate
i love this
BRO YOU ATE THAT!! SURE DID PUT HIM IN HIS PLACE!!!!
Wilbur has broken me but not as much shubble has been. #supportShubble
Ok but the song fits so well tho
LET'S GO, WE COPE
I watched wilbur since 2020 to 2023, And i feel backstabbed by him as a viewer.
Me too, he did made us overly attached to him, but he forgot to take in account how hurt we will be when the truth will be out
I hope you're doing alright, it's good not to be attached to a person you didn't knew, it'll be better this way
Really unfortunate, I enjoyed his music a lot and he was so funny in videos. Can’t believe he’d do something so sick. I’m also so sorry you had to deal with that 🫶🫶‼️‼️
Sad that this was how it went down, but we can't change the past or the present. But we all must continue onward and learn from this as fans.
SLAYYY
(i cried off and on for about 5 hours yesterday when i found out)
SAME I CRIED MYSELF TO SLEEP
I was in shock when i fownd out what willbur soot did, and its messd up what he did im so sorry for his firends, sence moust of them didt think he was the type of guy.
it's saddening.. hope you're doing better
Thank you
#ShubbleSupportSquad !!!
and just for this you have earned yourself another sub 👍
maybe let's not start choosing a side before there's any evidence? there are allegations against shelby for emotional abuse and against the sss for inciting suicide when there isn't even any evidence for what she claims.
Have you not noticed that EVERY cc who personally knew him dropped him? I think they should know better and more than us
Also if there ever was a lesson in this whole situation, its definitely "dont be parasocial anymore and dont assume of every cc that they are Holy and Pure", thats why I'm saying that I'm not his friend, thats all, I've learned
@@wasntdeleted we don't know if they've dropped him privately. it would look terrible for their images to continuously support him after the allegations made by shelby and others. i don't believe will is some "holier than thou" character, but there is as much evidence pointing towards shelby being an abuser as there is evidence of will being an abuser.
@@meh_81 I don't really care whos abuser and who is not because I don't really know or watch Shelby either, so 🤷
@@wasntdeleted then why does your thumbnail label will as an abuser?
his no one’s friend no more. #SupportShubble
what he did is unforgiveable and I hopehe is well aware he is not welcome back in.
I bet Techno would be so dissapointed as well.
the ludwig thumbnail redraw sent me
I feel awful for his friends and fellow streamers, Shubble didn’t deserve that and neither dose anyone else.
I hope that Will seeks help and stays away from the internet for a long while.
God I can only imagine what Tommy's going through rn 😞
Character development /j
SUPPORT SHELBY!!!
this song fits so much
lol best response I've seen ever
I don't think I can have faith in Wilbur for what he did
I would like to say PLEEEASE take care of yourselves guys! I know this can be stressful and scary but it'll all be ok no matter what.
My message to neurodivergent people. Its. Not. Your. Fault. I know alot of you ( Being as i am and have friends who are ) have a tendency to hyperfixate on things and if that thing was Wilbur dont feel bad. You cant control that. I have accepted his music was my coping for so much, i only listen to lovejoy for my mental sake. Not because i support Wilbur.
My message to people satying neutral. Stay strong. I'm also staying neutral in the situation not taking sides or favoring one over the other. At the end of the day we don't really know these people and they most likely dont know us.
My message to the people who feel bad because they still care and want Wilbur to get help. I support that. Alot of criminals are people who reached out for help and support and didn't get it. If we push Wilbur away from the help he needs and send death threats or threats to dox him it's not going to make things any better.
To my people fully supporting Shubble. I support that decision as well i hope she recovers and also gets the help she needs.
My final message is take care of yourself. My comments will always be open for venting and if you wanna talk privately and just get things off your chest I'll give you my tumblr. Im here to support and help people. Remember. Eat something, drink some water, get some good sleep, seek help if you need it, and if you need to take your meds. Have a wonderful day/night, stay strong, be patient with the ccs and as always please take care of yourself.
I'm really sorry for what happened, but there are a lot people from his friend circle to coming forward about his behaviours, they seen the signs, if this doesn't says something, then I honestly don't know
Personally the best place to look is at everyone’s response if all hits past “friends” are calling him out then he’s probably not in the right and you should support shubble
Good riddance 👍 (ANW GO SUPPORT SHELBY AND WATCH HER VOD AND SUPPORT ALL THE OTHER VICTIMS THEY TRULY DESERVE ALL THE LOVE IN THE WORLD
Alr but from what I've seen things are getting worse for Wilbur too HE LITERALLY SAID HE WAS THINKING/SEEKING FOR THERAPY sure what he did is wrong but seriously I've seen Wilbur get sent death threats and get doxxed like wtf, I'm going on Wilbur's side. Idc how much everyone will hate me Wilbur is and will always be one of my comfort streamers I'm not losing another one over some dumb shit that should've ended as soon as it was talked about
“if you dont arrive ill bite you“ he said
CACKLING AT THE LUDWIG VIDEO OML
Bro I was listening to the man’s music before I found out about the situation. Things have gotten worse and worse since technos death and some of the people he knew did do, something or is doing something wrong, or not doing things wrong. It’s just disgusting how someone I used to be a fan of did this.
I’m just glad I left this community before all this started happening….
No proof for any of the accusations, basically proven innocent, and opposing side also supported caiti against george, stand with Wilbur.
Brooo, that’s cold….
(In a good way ofc)
I really feel very disappointed in him, William Gold is crazier than Wilbur (Wilbur and William are not the same)
I got this on my fyp and the first thing I thought was stranger from omori
who knows, I might be! \(:3)/
help what 😭😭
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@@wasntdeleted ah
time to switch pfps to the second favorite...sleepyinc bois already done this dance once before and now we loose another one
the editing 😭
Hit him with the Ludwig 🤣👌
the fricking ludwig reference
When I tell you I was in DENIAL when I found out about all this
I didnt really care that much about wilbur since i always found him odd and niw i found the reason, i only really was interested on his arg and saw him in quackitys videos since quackity is one of my comfort streamer
You're reaction is based, pop off Queen/King/Supreme Sovereign
My heart goes out to all the vicitims of Wilbur's abuse 💙
The ludwig not ur friend thing was genius
LMFAO NOT THE LUDWIG VID😭😭
I can’t believe he said that. The guy i listen to lovejoy.. my favorite band..
Anyways personally if you have an issue even if you’re big in like fame solve the issue first. Don’t spread it to the entire internet. In my personal experience. There will be bigger consequences to your actions and your life. Also the fact that people make mistakes. I’m not trying to defend anyone here I’m just going to say that keep it to yourself or someone you trust and solve your issues. /:
Lovejoy was my favorite band too. It’s hard seeing your idols being uncovered as criminals. But in the end that sadly something we all have to accept and just stop supporting them :(
Lovejoy was the whole reason i started learning guitar lol
I don’t think i’ll stop listening to a couple of their songs but i won’t listen to them often IDK
@@eabhapappas1999 that’s what I was thinking as well.
Honestly, I don’t know much about the situation to say I support or hate Wilbur, could someone clue me in with a summary of the events to this point?
The streamer Shelby talking about her ex and say that her ex bited her, she told him many time that she didnt like it but her downplayed her feelings, wilbur revealed on twitter that it was him and he made an shitty "apology"
@@SweetSugar-s3m The fact that he admitted it though is wild, I don’t think that if I was Wilbur I would want to admit to such acts
@@ThePawsketeer yeah it was pretty dumb but like they say, the true always come out
@@SweetSugar-s3m guess that’s true
Pretty basic rundown, Shelby (Shubble online) went on stream and talked about an abusive relationship she was in where her partner would bite her publicly and in private, at first only playfully on her arms until it got more painful and started leaving serious bruises, that's when he started biting her legs too to hide the bruises. They had a safe word in place which her ex constantly ignored or would clamp down on the area more, he also had an incredibly dirty house, wanted her to constantly travel to him since they were long distance, he also one time pinned her down and told her to try and get him off of her, when she couldn't he made a joke about how easy it would be for him to just pin her down and not let her go. He'd bite her until she'd shout out for him to stop and then he'd claim he wasn't biting too hard and her pain tolerance was the issue.
Shelby kept her ex annomus but people started putting things together like her ex being a tall British man, having ants in his house, him biting her in front of their friends and put together that it was Wilbur, Wilbur then made a (in my opinion god awful) statement that confirmed the biting but claimed it was playful, which he was quickly called out on, and he himself admitted to being a bad partner during their relationship.
To add onto this, many of his friends and ex band mates (trumpeter and photographer) have spoken in support of Shelby and are helping her through healing, a lot of their mutual friends have cut contact with Will because of his behaviour. If you're interested, Shelbys VOD got uploaded on here by a second source that also includes Will's statement (and how it seems very gaslight-y) along with Shelbys response to it, I'd be happy to send you the name of it if you'd like
YOO POP OFF ‼️‼️
Support both❤❤.much change is needed for Wilbur
I agree. I don’t support abuse, but I won’t not support Wilbur on it. Specially something with biting, cause I can agree in ways that isn’t abusive to people or anything.
That’s tuff man
Nuh uh, i dont believe in what Shelby or anyone else said about wilbur being against him.Fuck what people call me, it id not okay to out Wilbur in this type of situation where hr probably wont br sble to leave his house and not being sble to go anywhere.
I would stay he’s friend❤
him getting cancelled was fucking inevetable.
I'm gonna be brutally honest here. I've seen so much online abuse thrown at Wilbur that I'm starting to feel more bad for him... The multitude of death threats, thousands if not millions of comments of online abuse. And this is to take into account there really isn't confirmation it was abuse too.
There's people who have harmed me in this world, but I could never wish the abuse Wilbur has received onto any of them. No matter how bad they were
Omg finally someone sane
#SUPPORTSHUBBLE
the ludwig thumbnail 😭
i preferred that i didn't know what happened, but man.
Dw, theres no proof for either side and wilbur hasnt posted his full side with proof yet. He will soon. Everyones neutral in this drama. 👍
Man, Wilbur really got drop when he reputation get ruined, feel bad for him ngl
Wilbur is in the wrong but so is Shubble, I also think she needs to take accountability for causing the suicides of 4 kids. And also her of all people should know that mental health matters yet if you type “mental health matters” in her chat, you’ll get banned.
I’m appalled and disgusted by this, it’s horrifying that i used to find comfort in his videos. Now all I feel when I see him is disgust, he’s wretched for what he’s done.
“Out of respect for her” he says while completely invalidating her grievances and pain at the same time by calling is “playful” 😐 disappointing and shameful
POP OFF
Crazy how she risked ants crawling on her just to be used as a chew toy for a musty guy. Low self-esteem is one hell of a drug.
It's more on being susceptible to manipulation tbh, low self-esteem is often just a tool for abuser to do that
Can someone explain the full story? I don't know the full story, I only know that he abused someone but I didn't hear who. Please explain?
Check the VOD Shelby made explaining.