I still think they should do another X-factor twist season as long as everyone has an ex in the house. It would create drama and provide for some interesting alliances
@@drewbishop9090 I know. I was saying that BB6’s pre existing relationships twist was done well because everybody had a pre existing relationship. BB4 didn’t have that and 3 people didn’t have an exe with them. Sorry, I should’ve made myself clear.
Well i think it would be more interesting if everyone were to not have an ex like in bb4 Because if it were equal it would just be one side vs the other and it would kind of be boring Because of the unevenness of bb4 it led to the best duo of jun and allison
I think the pre-existing relationships are definitely cooler when they're an actual twist. The twins, BB6, and some of the BB4 exes were cool to watch play out, tbh! Also random note, Carol & Jessica having a pre-existing 'relationship' over lunch money never fails to crack me up💀
Their rivalry is one of the funniest. Like you have two very legitimate rivals with Donatos and Dustin+Joe, and then for the third you get a lunch money feud? Cracks me up
I wonder how it came in the casting process. Like the way they find Nakomis and the Exes on BB4 was that they asked about it and the producers found it. And it also happened on BB8, so it funny to think that they asked Jessica that and she said "oh yeah only a woman that still owes me money" and the producers really found them lmao
A little bit more of a stretch, but I think it’s worth mentioning BB18 that Da’vonne’s vendetta against Tiffany’s sister basically led to Da’Vonne obsessively targeting Tiffany to the point of tanking her own game for it. So it’s a pre-existing second-degree relationship that shaped part of the game.
My biggest gripe with all these pre-existing relationships was that production could never keep it consistent. Having a preexisting relationship with someone adds such a HUGE extra layer to the game, but CBS' casting could NEVER keep it consistent with the exception of BB6. Trying to compare estranged family to lunch money was WILDLY uneven, and only giving 5 out of the 8 houseguests an ex back in season 4 felt SO unfair.
HA HA HA HA OMG Why'd you have to do me like that?? You didn't even touch on Dustin getting evicted after nominating himself as a pawn. "A courtesy flush" as he said. I had totally forgotten they used Nate's interviews on the show as well. Oh man. Thank you and great videos as always.
If you had asked me today who I thought would comment on this video I certainly would not have expected it to be Joe Barber! I was mostly going over these relationships while they were both in the house together and the impact their dynamic had, but you’re right, totally could have at least touched upon that 😂 for what it’s worth I got such a kick going back and watching your hammock scene with Dustin while getting footage for this, truly made that week on the show super interesting (also “immaculately conceived gonorrhea” is an A+ line, I’m finished now)
@@Ethanimale Thank you so much!! The hammock scene is classic pettiness on my end, but still funny to watch it play out. Also, immaculately conceived gonorrhea definitely had America googling symptoms. Funny story, there were three edits of that opening episode according to production: one where they bleeped and blurred the word and my mouth, one where they said it only once, and then the edit that went to air where they just let it fly!! I am happy with the one they aired, because if they had bleeped it, it could have sounded much worse :)
It still blows my mind that they didn't notice the Christie and Tommy pre-existing relationship OR the Holly and Kat one, feels like an easy instagram search and such lol maybe that season would have gone better had they noticed that but idk if there's any saving for BB21
I think they did know though? At the very least Christie and Tommy. I remember during the premiere Julie saying something along the lines of "like summer camp, you may run into a familiar face" or something like that.
Let’s be honest here: they noticed. The casters seem to know everything about their houseguests. And if the fanbase easily notices them before the season starts, just imagine how much professionals know about their own cast. I mean they even knew their ex’s in season 4. There is a 0% shot they didn’t know Tommy and Christie has a relationship.
Super late comment I know but that moment with Tommy talking to Christie in the shower was priceless! Made me laugh hardest out of everything I’ve seen of these videos. Good find.
BBOTT is clearly the black sheep of the franchise so I understand why you didn’t want to include it, but it’s impressive that siblings Morgan and Alex managed to hide their pre-existing relationship the whole time. Even though Alex left relatively early, the bonds and friendships they both formed early on helped position Morgan pretty well for the latter half of the game.
The guinea pigs, while funny, still irks my soul. Also, I remember when it was (to my recollection) speculated that Kat and Holly “knew” each other, or ran the same circles, outside the house but never thought it was proven… well, until I saw your videos. I just thought they were part of the same scene, but didn’t actually know it. Then again, I never rewatched 19 after it aired, so my memory is really foggy but it. But I clearly remember that fight .
It is so good to see your Channel Growing as big as it has! As a reward for your continuous efforts, I've decided to increase my membership. Keep up the good work ethan!
It was a bit hypocritical that Christie was so critical of Holly possibly knowing Kat and blew up their alliance over it when her and Tommy knew each other. They could have just said it doesn’t matter.
i think a fun video idea would be “underrated personalities” ! we all know bb12’s brittany and bb16’s zach but some others are often forgotten like joe from bb8 who had some of the funniest moments and one-liners of the season
Joe needs to come back so badly on the show 😂 he was so entertaining. Arguably one of the best DR confessional givers ever, even though we only had him for two weeks
Joe was also so open about the fact that he was stirring the pot. He didn't even try to hide it. While not a good gameplayer, he was very entertaining for the short time he was in the game.
I was going to say Helen and Andy from bb15, but it was barely a pre existing relationship, even though its arguably one of most successful ones (if you do count it obv)
How did i not realize so many of the earlier seasons had players with pre existing relationships 😱!? Production always loved secret duos since season 2 when Danielle and Jason made theirs. Maybe the show tried replicating that
I think BB21 was intentional, just not a twist. I remember during the premiere, Julie saying something along the lines of “like summer camp, some may see a familiar face” or something like that.
BB12- Didn’t Britney and Kathy know each other outside of the house? It was never addressed on the show, but I thought I heard somebody say that they knew each other.
Video suggestion for you even if it is a bit cliche for big brother: do the worst moves in your opinion that have ever been done on big brother. I'm talking Marcellus in the veto, Lawon etting evicted, stuff like that.
Don't forget Ollie taking Dan's deal which led to replacement nominee roulette. Also, Nathan using the veto on Alison, and indirectly backdooring his closest ally, David. Which also led to his eviction a couple weeks later.
Bb21's knowing each other thing was done on on purpose. It's the summer camp theme. People knowing each other or having strange common similarities (ovi and mickey)
Personally I really like all the personal relationships featured in seasons 8 and before, post that I personally didn't like any of the relationships featured post that aside from the Nolan's in season 17. After Season 8, it just kind of well went down-hill.
Outside of BB9 (and the Nolan Twins) I don't really think production liked the idea of pre-existing relationships anymore which is why they haven't really been intentionally featured since
I wish you included some of BBCAN like allison and kenny from bbcan2, cass and jared / the brothers from bbcan4, some of the evictors (rianne, JL, micheal) from bbcan8
@@Blakeethan01 I think it was just a rumour that they might've known each other or had mutual friends?? Something like that i dont know, but they're all from the same area in BC
Very good in-depth video. Out of curiosity, did BB18 Da'Vonne knowing Tiffany was Vanessa Rousso's sister not count? I only ask because I know Day recognized that relationship, but I don't know if that means they actually met in person.
I don't think Vanessa really interacted with her cast all too much after BB17, which really restricts the probability that Tiffany and Da'Vonne met, whereas I know that Paulie and Nicole had met at one point
there should be a season where everyone has someone they've known before the game but they don't know that their other house guest also have other people/
I still think they should do another X-factor twist season as long as everyone has an ex in the house. It would create drama and provide for some interesting alliances
Same! I really enjoy the twists based on players personalities/ relationships over powers and whatever
Yeah. They got Summer of Secrets in BB6 right because everyone had a pre-existing relationship.
@@olivermensinger6022 the x factor twist is from bb4
@@drewbishop9090 I know. I was saying that BB6’s pre existing relationships twist was done well because everybody had a pre existing relationship. BB4 didn’t have that and 3 people didn’t have an exe with them. Sorry, I should’ve made myself clear.
Well i think it would be more interesting if everyone were to not have an ex like in bb4
Because if it were equal it would just be one side vs the other and it would kind of be boring
Because of the unevenness of bb4 it led to the best duo of jun and allison
I think the pre-existing relationships are definitely cooler when they're an actual twist. The twins, BB6, and some of the BB4 exes were cool to watch play out, tbh!
Also random note, Carol & Jessica having a pre-existing 'relationship' over lunch money never fails to crack me up💀
Their rivalry is one of the funniest. Like you have two very legitimate rivals with Donatos and Dustin+Joe, and then for the third you get a lunch money feud? Cracks me up
I wonder how it came in the casting process.
Like the way they find Nakomis and the Exes on BB4 was that they asked about it and the producers found it. And it also happened on BB8, so it funny to think that they asked Jessica that and she said "oh yeah only a woman that still owes me money" and the producers really found them lmao
I wonder if she had someone else as her rival but they dropped last minute so this was the best they could come up with.
Carol left so early yet they kept bringing that up in the house all the way to the end just because they thought it was so stupid.
A little bit more of a stretch, but I think it’s worth mentioning BB18 that Da’vonne’s vendetta against Tiffany’s sister basically led to Da’Vonne obsessively targeting Tiffany to the point of tanking her own game for it.
So it’s a pre-existing second-degree relationship that shaped part of the game.
“He’s a racist”, lol that’s a promising romance..
A match made in heaven
My biggest gripe with all these pre-existing relationships was that production could never keep it consistent. Having a preexisting relationship with someone adds such a HUGE extra layer to the game, but CBS' casting could NEVER keep it consistent with the exception of BB6. Trying to compare estranged family to lunch money was WILDLY uneven, and only giving 5 out of the 8 houseguests an ex back in season 4 felt SO unfair.
HA HA HA HA OMG Why'd you have to do me like that?? You didn't even touch on Dustin getting evicted after nominating himself as a pawn. "A courtesy flush" as he said. I had totally forgotten they used Nate's interviews on the show as well. Oh man. Thank you and great videos as always.
If you had asked me today who I thought would comment on this video I certainly would not have expected it to be Joe Barber! I was mostly going over these relationships while they were both in the house together and the impact their dynamic had, but you’re right, totally could have at least touched upon that 😂 for what it’s worth I got such a kick going back and watching your hammock scene with Dustin while getting footage for this, truly made that week on the show super interesting (also “immaculately conceived gonorrhea” is an A+ line, I’m finished now)
@@Ethanimale Thank you so much!! The hammock scene is classic pettiness on my end, but still funny to watch it play out. Also, immaculately conceived gonorrhea definitely had America googling symptoms. Funny story, there were three edits of that opening episode according to production: one where they bleeped and blurred the word and my mouth, one where they said it only once, and then the edit that went to air where they just let it fly!! I am happy with the one they aired, because if they had bleeped it, it could have sounded much worse :)
@@mojojoe83 I can see why you’d be happy they chose that one, what a fun fact I would have never known otherwise! Thanks for sharing :)
Is this Joe Barber? Wow. You were such a pot stirrer and didn’t even try to hide it. You were great tv for the short time you were in the game
It still blows my mind that they didn't notice the Christie and Tommy pre-existing relationship OR the Holly and Kat one, feels like an easy instagram search and such lol maybe that season would have gone better had they noticed that but idk if there's any saving for BB21
i think the season was good after the prejury cuz day 44 and jessicas hoh was the turning point that season
I think they did know though? At the very least Christie and Tommy. I remember during the premiere Julie saying something along the lines of "like summer camp, you may run into a familiar face" or something like that.
No Christie and tommy ate together
Let’s be honest here: they noticed. The casters seem to know everything about their houseguests. And if the fanbase easily notices them before the season starts, just imagine how much professionals know about their own cast. I mean they even knew their ex’s in season 4. There is a 0% shot they didn’t know Tommy and Christie has a relationship.
I'd really love to see another preexisting relationship twist in the future. Better than the random duo / battle of the block stuff.
Super late comment I know but that moment with Tommy talking to Christie in the shower was priceless! Made me laugh hardest out of everything I’ve seen of these videos. Good find.
BBOTT is clearly the black sheep of the franchise so I understand why you didn’t want to include it, but it’s impressive that siblings Morgan and Alex managed to hide their pre-existing relationship the whole time.
Even though Alex left relatively early, the bonds and friendships they both formed early on helped position Morgan pretty well for the latter half of the game.
yea it basically ruined the season for me
Alex made it pretty far I felt
update: cirie from survivor and her son jason are playing bb25
It’s Jared not Jason but yes
The guinea pigs, while funny, still irks my soul. Also, I remember when it was (to my recollection) speculated that Kat and Holly “knew” each other, or ran the same circles, outside the house but never thought it was proven… well, until I saw your videos. I just thought they were part of the same scene, but didn’t actually know it. Then again, I never rewatched 19 after it aired, so my memory is really foggy but it. But I clearly remember that fight .
I obviously meant 21… it’s been a long day.
@@bacanalb Oh for sure. It's fun to look back on and be like wtf, but it's an extremely unnecessarily question that actually affected the game
I don't think they ever considered the possibility someone would get it right.
Seeing the girl that dated your AUNT walk in with you on a reality tv show mustve been such a bone chilling moment
It is so good to see your Channel Growing as big as it has! As a reward for your continuous efforts, I've decided to increase my membership. Keep up the good work ethan!
Nathan thank you so much!! I appreciate that so much it goes a very long way, thank you for sticking around 🤟
It was a bit hypocritical that Christie was so critical of Holly possibly knowing Kat and blew up their alliance over it when her and Tommy knew each other. They could have just said it doesn’t matter.
"Those that are the most vocally against it oftentimes are the ones hiding the exact same secret" -someone wise, probably
i think a fun video idea would be “underrated personalities” !
we all know bb12’s brittany and bb16’s zach but some others are often forgotten like joe from bb8 who had some of the funniest moments and one-liners of the season
He literally just commented, I’m sure he would have loved to seen this comment! (Also thats a really good idea)
If you haven’t done this already, could you do a video on known Superfans entering the game and how that fares for them
Does Claire count as a "superfan"? I would think she's more of a Survivor stan considering she built a whole fanmade MCU during college from scratch.
I wish big brother did a reunion after each season ends so we can see updates on how the constants from the previous season are doing
Joe needs to come back so badly on the show 😂 he was so entertaining. Arguably one of the best DR confessional givers ever, even though we only had him for two weeks
Joe was also so open about the fact that he was stirring the pot. He didn't even try to hide it. While not a good gameplayer, he was very entertaining for the short time he was in the game.
You’re killing it with the uploads! Keep it up!
Glad to have this video while preparing for tonight’s butter bean blindside meal
I was going to say Helen and Andy from bb15, but it was barely a pre existing relationship, even though its arguably one of most successful ones (if you do count it obv)
Man Erica and Robert look related as hell
I would be interested in a full secret pairs season happening again
Ironic the fate of the most successful pre existing relationship. They can't stand each other now
How did i not realize so many of the earlier seasons had players with pre existing relationships 😱!? Production always loved secret duos since season 2 when Danielle and Jason made theirs. Maybe the show tried replicating that
you can always look at me and see home. " WHAT?"
Them featuring Nate was so Dr. PHIL as heck haha " Joe could've gotten gonnerea from anyone"- Nate(gave it to Joe)
“YOU DIDN’T SAY IT LIKE THAT” 😂
you should do a video on people coming back into the game after getting evicted. probably like successes and failures or something like that
Been waiting for a video about this
wait no more!
Love videos like these thanks Ethanimale!
Let’s go, RANK EVERY MEMORY WALL PICTURE ETHAN I. MALE
ITS NOT HAPPENING
Another Great video Ethan
This is your best ending yet to a video
To quote Tommy bracco, "THEY KNOW EACH OTHER"
I think BB21 was intentional, just not a twist. I remember during the premiere, Julie saying something along the lines of “like summer camp, some may see a familiar face” or something like that.
BB12- Didn’t Britney and Kathy know each other outside of the house? It was never addressed on the show, but I thought I heard somebody say that they knew each other.
Paul and Raven knew each other as well.
I think there was a rumor that Kathy was Britney's mom or something, which was not true. Maybe something different though
Did we really not get an honorable mention for the brothers who won bb Canada?
Ameerah knew of Taylor this season based on cast leaks too !! They didn’t *know each other* but ameerah knew Taylor would be on the cast
Video suggestion for you even if it is a bit cliche for big brother: do the worst moves in your opinion that have ever been done on big brother. I'm talking Marcellus in the veto, Lawon etting evicted, stuff like that.
Honestly surprised I haven’t done that yet!
Don't forget Ollie taking Dan's deal which led to replacement nominee roulette. Also, Nathan using the veto on Alison, and indirectly backdooring his closest ally, David. Which also led to his eviction a couple weeks later.
Bb21's knowing each other thing was done on on purpose. It's the summer camp theme. People knowing each other or having strange common similarities (ovi and mickey)
Imagine a season where everyones a twin lol
Amanda really never had a chance. Now she isn't even the best known Amanda on BB.
Which one?
@@nachoalvarez7171 BB4 Amanda.
@@kengeorgejones6855 oh ok
Personally I really like all the personal relationships featured in seasons 8 and before, post that I personally didn't like any of the relationships featured post that aside from the Nolan's in season 17.
After Season 8, it just kind of well went down-hill.
Outside of BB9 (and the Nolan Twins) I don't really think production liked the idea of pre-existing relationships anymore which is why they haven't really been intentionally featured since
I wish you included some of BBCAN like allison and kenny from bbcan2, cass and jared / the brothers from bbcan4, some of the evictors (rianne, JL, micheal) from bbcan8
As well as Moose and Kyle from bbcan10
@@Blakeethan01 yes!
@@Jonathan-xg4qq I never noticed that three members of the evictiors knew eachother, I must've erased that season from my memory
@@Blakeethan01 I think it was just a rumour that they might've known each other or had mutual friends?? Something like that i dont know, but they're all from the same area in BC
u forgot bb15, andy and helen’s relationship outside the house!
Very good in-depth video.
Out of curiosity, did BB18 Da'Vonne knowing Tiffany was Vanessa Rousso's sister not count? I only ask because I know Day recognized that relationship, but I don't know if that means they actually met in person.
I don't think Vanessa really interacted with her cast all too much after BB17, which really restricts the probability that Tiffany and Da'Vonne met, whereas I know that Paulie and Nicole had met at one point
@@Ethanimale That's fair, was just double-checking.
Me having never seen big brother not understand a single fucking term or game mechanic: 👁👄👁
While Big Brother is currently pushing new stranger for casting, I wouldn’t be opposed to another Summer of Secrets (BBUS6) season
there should be a season where everyone has someone they've known before the game but they don't know that their other house guest also have other people/
Wasn't that bb6?
Stagecoach? Dude what is it with Stagecoach and reality tv?!
You should do a season ranking
you should do a most brutal exit evictions
with his 4th pov win, add michael to the previous video
I loved Tommy 😂😂 and ofc Kat is my crush 😂😍🤣
Can you do the turning points of big brother seasons like bb21 or bb24?
I definitely was considering that!
Of course Tommy and Christie did well, Christie could always look at Tommy and see home.
Hi, what does the number next to the like symbol I've been noticing?
You forgot season 15!
It seems like final 6 is a duo killer
Honestly looking back, I think Joe was more tolerable than Dustin and I’m not sad that Dustin was first to go from his alliance after turning on Dick
DAVID YOU WANTED TO WHAT????
they know each otha!!!
Jackson and Ovi went to the same school iirc
What about 13 and 14?
I don't want to ever see Christy time or any of that cast again. Pathetic
BB24 Notes
13 People Left
Alyssa- Marketing rep
Brittany- Hypnotherapist
Daniel- Vegas performer
Indy- Corporate flight attendant
Jasmine- Entrepreneur
Kyle- Unemployed
Joseph- Lawyer
Turner- Thrift store owner
Michael- Attorney
Monte- Personal Trainer
Nicole- Private chef
Taylor- Personal stylist
Terrance- Bus operator
Week 4 ranking
1. Terrance
2. Kyle
3. Joseph
4. Monte
5. Taylor
6. Turner
7. Michael
8. Brittany
9. Daniel
10. Nicole
11. Alyssa
12. Indy
13. Jasmine
HOH Wins
Daniel 1
Jasmine 1
Turner 1
Veto Wins
Michael 3
Brittany 1
Nominated
Terrance 2
Michael 2
Taylor 2
Brittany 1
Ameerah 1 (Eliminated)
Pooch 1 (Eliminated)
Placement
14th Ameerah
15th Pooch
16th Paloma
😁