Since we're having a look at a Wednesday video modifying the look of a teak finish, does this make it a mid-week teak tweak peek? Would someone searching for this video do a mid-week teak tweak peek seek?
Someone gave me several of these coaches but they looked so cheap and plastic. I applied a quick wash of old stained varnish and wiped it off the numbers and lettering with a cloth. I didn't even separate the chassis from the body. Huge improvement that took minutes per coach. I wanted to send Hornby photos to show how easy it was to improve their product but I didn't even know what varnish I'd used 'cos the old tin had lost its label.
Thumbnail is of the Teak Set on North Yorkshire Moors Railway (NYMR) between Pickering (where I live) and Whitby. Absolutly stunning carriages. 1:37 is the tile map on NYMR Pickering platform. 1:43 is nearby York city station which is famous for being on a curve. 1:53 is back to NYMR Pickering platform again. The NYMR has a teak observation coach that runs at the front or the end of the set and when at the end gives a panoramic view of the receeding track. It used to be a directors coach for use by rail bigwigs who would ride in it while it was pushed by a loco hence it has a large bell on the end as the coach would effectivly form the front of the train.
They are so beautiful. This Saturday we are going to visit one of my favorite railways, the Epping Ongar Line. Many years ago it was part of the Centre Line.
Excellent stuff! One of my good lady’s clients donated a box of her late husband’s 00 stuff, which included a rake of these (along with a J52 and some wagons!)and I wanted to rid them of their slightly toy-like finish, and this seems like an excellent method 😎 Look forward to the next episode👍🍀
Well, I really saw your passion for the old teak carriages of yesteryear, Jago. I must admit, as a seventy five year old kid, down here in Australia, that I have never seen one, let alone ridden in one. But what I have seen in retro imagery, particularly in your presentation, I share your passion for PRESENTATION of something good. Cattle don't give a moo about how their wagon looks like being hauled off to the abattoirs. But we enjoy riding in an elegantly appointed vehicle. Ship, aeroplane, bus, or TRAIN. It's not possible I know, but wouldn't it be great to journey in teak carriages again. In our dreams Jago!
Very nice and rich look! If this helps I’ve found that hattons have split up the flying Scotsman sets with the loco being only 55£ and the 3 coaches are 39£. Love the improvements on them they look beautiful
Looks great, nice money saving idea. I thought you just did the London trains (the real ones), happy to see that you also cover my other hobby too. Great!
As the ink is water based, I wonder if a wipe over with hot soapy water would have helped somewhere first of all? Possibly a drop of washing up liquid in the ink may have helped it stay put too.
You'll get a better result with dishwasher rinse aid, I've used it to make home made acrylic washes with some acrylic ink, acrylic medium and water. I followed this tutorial, it works very well for my, with the was flowing into every nook and cranny on a model ua-cam.com/video/IokSYHu58V8/v-deo.html
@@Daiknaps that's an interesting idea, will have to try that. Thanks David. Even if new, it's often the case that plasticisers rise to the surface and prevent paint from wetting properly. Regards Gary
I found for model kits, and those very coaches what worked nicely was to strip them down, spray with a primer then an "antique white" base colour, basically pale cream. followed by brush application of actual teak varnish, first few thin coats look really crap, get to five or six though and it loosk really good. then re-line, decal, seal and weather. great for getting similar finish on them and the non-corridor ones and matching the Ratio four wheel coach kits, parcel vanes and similar
If you are doing ship models,that technique would work on that too! Many sailing ships,and yachts have teak decks,and the British Navy was notorious in that respect! Anyway,the finish is pretty good,and will pass in room lighting! The LNER,did in my estimation,a superb job,when it came to locomotives,as they were at least 20 years ahead of needs,and Gresley,never really got the credit he deserved.As a side note,those Pacifics that Gresley produced had their origin in the PRR,K-4's,as to boiler size,and proportions! They were prodigious steam producers,and Southern Railways Pacifics used the same applications! See O.S.Nocks books on British Pacifics! Sorry,I'm getting too verbose,but information is important! Thanks for the tutorial!😇🚊🚂🚇
Greetings Mr XJ6. I have a OO gauge Bachmann LNER garter blue A4 "Peregrine" with a rake of 10 Gresley teak coaches and very nice it is too. If you persist with these most excellent and very enjoyable small railway-based videos some lesser mortals may suggest that you are some kind of crank. Best wishes as always from hot and sunny Slovenia. 👍🍻🇸🇮
Period photographs, as well as contemporary coaches in preservation, show a fair amount of latitude in colour, often in the same rake. These range from an almost cherry red to dark brown, through honey. Also the panels often sustained water damage, making the lower edges much darker. So if any military grade pedant accuses you of playing fast and loose with the prototype, you can tell him (and it will be a him) that it slavishly follows an original. You just haven't located the original.
Seeing as you did a video on a favourite haunt of mine ie The widened lines and now your look of Teak coaches perhaps you Should visit the North Norfolk Railway as they have a 4 car Gresley Quad art set that is fully restored in teak.
And here I am having to paint beautifully finished teak brake coaches into the chocolate and cream livery. If only they looked like these coaches, I wouldn't feel so bad about doing it!
Hey dude, great video and your efforts look good to me. A few years back bought some of these that I've converted into Metropolitan Dreadnoughts with a bit of help from a tin of woodstain, my printer and the Traintech warm coach lights. They're not perfect, the shape is wrong and it made the rivet counters twitch, but Project Genesis wasn't even a glint in Hattons' eye and my lonely Heljan Metropolitan Bobo needed something to get the Metrolanders to and from work. Rule 1, suckers!
Granted by today's standard rather primitive. But back in the day 40 years ago they were the bee's knees. Equally if you're a "junior/younger modeller" or working to a budget they're ok . They can be as you've demonstrated improved with some basic procedures...........
I agree with you that teak wood coaches could look excellent, particularly the LNER ones. I believe that in the early days of British Railways, these coaches were overpainted in “blood and custard,” c early 1950s. This did not work well, because the underlying varnish spoiled the newer finish. BR should have made an exception with these carriages, and kept the teak wood varnished. Interesting to see the old Hornby 1:76 scale carriage. I have some of these, but they’re very poorly modelled ~ too short, wrong batteries, wrong under frame, wrong buffers, etc. But a valiant attempt at improvement! I have painted an LNER carriage in teak finish, but took months getting it to look realistic, using oil- based paints (like Humbrol). I copied colour photos.
Might I suggest that with the glazing removed you could get inside the frames to reduce the contrast and that perhaps finish with a larger very soft brush. Like the effect though, I'm going to give that a go.! Thanks.
They look good in original livery. I remember them out of Kings Cross in the 60s usually BR maroon occasionally in jam and custard( maroon and cream) The interiors were fairly unchanged. They used them on Cambridge trains.
robuk1981 no but remember travelling from Harrow upon Hill to Baker St on Ex Metropolitan teak coaches they had a small buffet car section. Met electric loco hauled.
Needs a text to speech edit of the “No Fighting” scene from Tommy’s wedding in Peaky, except swapped to say “No fire-lighting... No fire-lighting... NO! F*CKING! FIRE-LIGHTING!”
to Winston Smith and MusicalElitist1 Thank you both for calling me a moron, you know I really like being called that. As you can see I have deleted the comment and I hope this will teach you a lesson about being rude and offensive to others. V V V V V V V
You better use glas paint, more realistic, I gave a tutorial on it several years ago. I even put in light and painted the interior. part 1: ua-cam.com/video/dUjOnvgYYLQ/v-deo.html part2: ua-cam.com/video/9a367b8ns84/v-deo.html
The ink is an interesting approach, I've seen some have a go with different washes and paints as well. I used teak wood stain on mine that turned out pretty well. You can have a look at the end result at ua-cam.com/video/dEPrWbRs4Nc/v-deo.html
The intro was a bit rambly. It would have been better to use a script, I think. (You already spoilt us, since most of your videos have very clear and to-the-point narration.)
I must admit that this is a thing that bugs me with my model railway vids. I find it difficult to refer to a script while also modelling. My interim solution is to have a rough idea of what I want to say and try to edit as best I can afterwards.
Since we're having a look at a Wednesday video modifying the look of a teak finish, does this make it a mid-week teak tweak peek? Would someone searching for this video do a mid-week teak tweak peek seek?
This channel is like Mark Felton productions if he focused on railways.
I had a sneaking suspicion that I wasn't the only one subscribed to both channels...
Except with considerably more pleasant style of speech.
@@TheTM1Channel I'm another, heh.
This could have been a wooden subject, but it went against the grain and turned out pretty well.
It could have driven a wedge into the audience. Ultimately, plane sailing. My interest is kindling. No need to teak the formula at all.
Someone gave me several of these coaches but they looked so cheap and plastic. I applied a quick wash of old stained varnish and wiped it off the numbers and lettering with a cloth. I didn't even separate the chassis from the body. Huge improvement that took minutes per coach. I wanted to send Hornby photos to show how easy it was to improve their product but I didn't even know what varnish I'd used 'cos the old tin had lost its label.
Thumbnail is of the Teak Set on North Yorkshire Moors Railway (NYMR) between Pickering (where I live) and Whitby.
Absolutly stunning carriages. 1:37 is the tile map on NYMR Pickering platform. 1:43 is nearby York city station which is famous for being on a curve. 1:53 is back to NYMR Pickering platform again. The NYMR has a teak observation coach that runs at the front or the end of the set and when at the end gives a panoramic view of the receeding track. It used to be a directors coach for use by rail bigwigs who would ride in it while it was pushed by a loco hence it has a large bell on the end as the coach would effectivly form the front of the train.
They are so beautiful. This Saturday we are going to visit one of my favorite railways, the Epping Ongar Line. Many years ago it was part of the Centre Line.
Excellent stuff! One of my good lady’s clients donated a box of her late husband’s 00 stuff, which included a rake of these (along with a J52 and some wagons!)and I wanted to rid them of their slightly toy-like finish, and this seems like an excellent method 😎 Look forward to the next episode👍🍀
Well, I really saw your passion for the old teak carriages of yesteryear, Jago. I must admit, as a seventy five year old kid, down here in
Australia, that I have never seen one, let alone ridden in one. But what I have seen in retro imagery, particularly in your presentation, I
share your passion for PRESENTATION of something good. Cattle don't give a moo about how their wagon looks like being hauled
off to the abattoirs. But we enjoy riding in an elegantly appointed vehicle. Ship, aeroplane, bus, or TRAIN. It's not possible I know,
but wouldn't it be great to journey in teak carriages again. In our dreams Jago!
Interesting video. Thanks Jago 😀
Very interesting Jago .
Nice video very intresting
Interesting video. I can imagine all of the other coaches being normal coloured then the odd one out that Jago painted 😂
Classic look from vic the black london taxi driver
Awesome! I did this about a year ago with some burnt umber paint and a gloss varnish, it came out well if you ask me
9 out of 10 definitely wood
Well, I live and learn 😊 Thank you.
Very nice and rich look! If this helps I’ve found that hattons have split up the flying Scotsman sets with the loco being only 55£ and the 3 coaches are 39£. Love the improvements on them they look beautiful
I used to have some of those coaches when I was a kid - memories!
I’m a big fan of the metropolitan teak coaches at the bluebell - they look great!
Looks great, nice money saving idea. I thought you just did the London trains (the real ones), happy to see that you also cover my other hobby too. Great!
As the ink is water based, I wonder if a wipe over with hot soapy water would have helped somewhere first of all? Possibly a drop of washing up liquid in the ink may have helped it stay put too.
Those are good ideas. I’ll have to try them next time and see how it turns out.
You'll get a better result with dishwasher rinse aid, I've used it to make home made acrylic washes with some acrylic ink, acrylic medium and water. I followed this tutorial, it works very well for my, with the was flowing into every nook and cranny on a model
ua-cam.com/video/IokSYHu58V8/v-deo.html
@@Daiknaps that's an interesting idea, will have to try that. Thanks David. Even if new, it's often the case that plasticisers rise to the surface and prevent paint from wetting properly. Regards Gary
Maybe soak the bodies in a solution of weak washing up liquid for a while to get rid of the film
Midweek upload yeah?! I was not expecting that to turn out so well, very nice. The process was almost like watching paint dry, but with ink... 😉
How have I just found this video???
There was an ex LNER teak coach on display at the old woolwich station back when it was a museum
I’ve seen photos of it. I’d be interested to know where it ended up.
It's at the NYMR painted LNER departmental blue in the isolated siding at Pickering station.
If you need to break surface tension in ink, a tiny drop of washing up liquid really helps. Otherwise acrylic paint sticks to plastic.
I have a rake of 7 of these and a jar of that ink at home. Guess what I'll be experimenting with tonight? :D
Well, I gave it a shot on one of the 2 brake coaches I have. What a difference for so little work!
I found for model kits, and those very coaches what worked nicely was to strip them down, spray with a primer then an "antique white" base colour, basically pale cream. followed by brush application of actual teak varnish, first few thin coats look really crap, get to five or six though and it loosk really good. then re-line, decal, seal and weather. great for getting similar finish on them and the non-corridor ones and matching the Ratio four wheel coach kits, parcel vanes and similar
If you are doing ship models,that technique would work on that too! Many sailing ships,and yachts have teak decks,and the British Navy was notorious in that respect! Anyway,the finish is pretty good,and will pass in room lighting! The LNER,did in my estimation,a superb job,when it came to locomotives,as they were at least 20 years ahead of needs,and Gresley,never really got the credit he deserved.As a side note,those Pacifics that Gresley produced had their origin in the PRR,K-4's,as to boiler size,and proportions! They were prodigious steam producers,and Southern Railways Pacifics used the same applications! See O.S.Nocks books on British Pacifics! Sorry,I'm getting too verbose,but information is important! Thanks for the tutorial!😇🚊🚂🚇
Greetings Mr XJ6. I have a OO gauge Bachmann LNER garter blue A4 "Peregrine" with a rake of 10 Gresley teak coaches and very nice it is too. If you persist with these most excellent and very enjoyable small railway-based videos some lesser mortals may suggest that you are some kind of crank. Best wishes as always from hot and sunny Slovenia. 👍🍻🇸🇮
Period photographs, as well as contemporary coaches in preservation, show a fair amount of latitude in colour, often in the same rake. These range from an almost cherry red to dark brown, through honey. Also the panels often sustained water damage, making the lower edges much darker. So if any military grade pedant accuses you of playing fast and loose with the prototype, you can tell him (and it will be a him) that it slavishly follows an original. You just haven't located the original.
Seeing as you did a video on a favourite haunt of mine ie The widened lines and now your look of Teak coaches perhaps you
Should visit the North Norfolk Railway as they have a 4 car Gresley Quad art set that is fully restored in teak.
Nice work, by the way does anyone write letters in brown ink anymore?
I doubt it. I think if I received such a letter, I’d assume it was from some psycho who’d used their blood.
@@JagoHazzard or painted their coaches with it ;-))
And here I am having to paint beautifully finished teak brake coaches into the chocolate and cream livery. If only they looked like these coaches, I wouldn't feel so bad about doing it!
What museum are this carriages in at the beginning? Would love to visit them.
Is it york? Not been since I was a child so can’t remember.
It is indeed York.
Hey dude, great video and your efforts look good to me. A few years back bought some of these that I've converted into Metropolitan Dreadnoughts with a bit of help from a tin of woodstain, my printer and the Traintech warm coach lights. They're not perfect, the shape is wrong and it made the rivet counters twitch, but Project Genesis wasn't even a glint in Hattons' eye and my lonely Heljan Metropolitan Bobo needed something to get the Metrolanders to and from work. Rule 1, suckers!
nice
Granted by today's standard rather primitive. But back in the day 40 years ago they were the bee's knees. Equally if you're a "junior/younger modeller" or working to a budget they're ok . They can be as you've demonstrated improved with some basic procedures...........
I agree with you that teak wood coaches could look excellent, particularly the LNER ones. I believe that in the early days of British Railways, these coaches were overpainted in “blood and custard,” c early 1950s. This did not work well, because the underlying varnish spoiled the newer finish. BR should have made an exception with these carriages, and kept the teak wood varnished. Interesting to see the old Hornby 1:76 scale carriage. I have some of these, but they’re very poorly modelled ~ too short, wrong batteries, wrong under frame, wrong buffers, etc. But a valiant attempt at improvement! I have painted an LNER carriage in teak finish, but took months getting it to look realistic, using oil- based paints (like Humbrol). I copied colour photos.
Teak used for ships decks at the same time. Not a surprising choice.
Being ink, it will be fine until it rains!
Does mr hazzard have a layout? .🤔🤔🤔
I’m building one at present. Very slowly.
Might I suggest that with the glazing removed you could get inside the frames to reduce the contrast and that perhaps finish with a larger very soft brush. Like the effect though, I'm going to give that a go.! Thanks.
They look good in original livery. I remember them out of Kings Cross in the 60s usually BR maroon occasionally in jam and custard( maroon and cream) The interiors were fairly unchanged. They used them on Cambridge trains.
Did you ever catch the restaurant coaches in Blue and grey?
robuk1981 no but remember travelling from Harrow upon Hill to Baker St on Ex Metropolitan teak coaches they had a small buffet car section. Met electric loco hauled.
Needs a text to speech edit of the “No Fighting” scene from Tommy’s wedding in Peaky, except swapped to say “No fire-lighting... No fire-lighting... NO! F*CKING! FIRE-LIGHTING!”
A water based teak varnish might be an alternative either gloss or satin . Yo can probably get 500mm tins
It *was* really cheap, was being the key word
Yeah, times have certainly changed for anyone reliant on teak, and not in a good way.
One other reason to use teak, pretty much weather / rot proof. Battleships had teak decks for that reason.
1:54 Did you mean that that's a good thing or a bad thing?
to Winston Smith and
MusicalElitist1
Thank you both for calling me a moron, you know I really like being called that.
As you can see I have deleted the comment and I hope this will teach you a lesson about being rude and offensive to others.
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So I’m watching paint dry. Must get a life.
Ok you get a thumbs up simply for the Gwyneth Paltrow joke.
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
You better use glas paint, more realistic, I gave a tutorial on it several years ago.
I even put in light and painted the interior.
part 1: ua-cam.com/video/dUjOnvgYYLQ/v-deo.html
part2: ua-cam.com/video/9a367b8ns84/v-deo.html
Ever heard of air-brush?😉😏
The ink is an interesting approach, I've seen some have a go with different washes and paints as well. I used teak wood stain on mine that turned out pretty well. You can have a look at the end result at ua-cam.com/video/dEPrWbRs4Nc/v-deo.html
Peat Brown? I think Sepia Smith would have been better!
I went to school with a girl called Therese Green: she married Gavin Wood!
@@1963TOMB Thank you for that snippet! I was suggesting that the slightly more red tone of sepia might be more accurate.
Not quite up to Laser Creation-World standard but a worthy effort all the same.
You say the LNER was pretty poor. You aren't wrong. We go Great Western or nothing at all. (Unless its a Terrier.)
Do you script your videos? It might help with dialogue flow
The intro was a bit rambly. It would have been better to use a script, I think. (You already spoilt us, since most of your videos have very clear and to-the-point narration.)
I must admit that this is a thing that bugs me with my model railway vids. I find it difficult to refer to a script while also modelling. My interim solution is to have a rough idea of what I want to say and try to edit as best I can afterwards.
The voice needs more gain.
These are a woman‘s hands
Really, stick to what you do best, filming!