True that, make a nice sofa that if you cut it up, then make coffee tables and stuff out of the other parts. Then use the front seats for sim rigs and sell those too.
I would love to put Mercedes chairs in my desk, work from home has never been more lux. Turn the rear seats into a sofa. That sound system good enough to give an amazing surround sound setup. I'm sure it's possible to rig the massaging for the seats too. Can sell other parts of the car steering wheel, screen, etc make back more than $1000
I remember the days when people bought Mercedes and BMW because they outlasted other brands. The value proposition was you could keep them 20 yrs and 300,000 miles. Now everything is a commodity. Pity.
I’ve got a 20yr old W211 chassis E500 (Naturally aspirated 5.0L V8, non-AWD) with 168k on it. I redid all the control arms, tie rods, ball joints, engine and transmission mounts, alternator, batteries, tires, brakes, cooling flush, power steering lines, power steering pump, and valve cover gaskets after I got it. Still need to replace all the air struts but they all hold air and work still (Bilstein B4/AMG E55 Airmatic setup, and yes I’m keeping it working with Arnott E55 replacements). Paid $1,700 for the car that came with a set of rims worth about $300-500 a piece, put about $2k in parts and my own labor and I’ve got one of those very Mercedes you mentioned that was engineered to last 300k miles+ They don’t make them like they used to.
I'll never be wealthy enough to buy an S-Class, but if I ever do, I'll have to have MORE than enough to afford all the regular maintenance. Some say if you take super good care of it, it will last forever. But it'll be all that $$$ spent for that regular maintenance. Either way, Mercedes is getting all your money. If you're rich, I guess it doesn't matter.
I have a friend who specializes in fixing high end Mercs, Audis, etc. You can get any of these cars after the warranties and service agreements are up for pennies on the dollar. The only thing worse than the service labor costs are the parts. What’s not expensive is hard to find and expensive! He’s tried to sell me several of these beautiful cars of the years. If they only had Toyota running gear they’d be perfect.
@@filthysoap96 Sorry no website and I’ll have to see if he’s got an email etc. He has a home shop near Austin and mostly gets work from people who take their cars into the dealership when they break down. After they break out the defibrillator, often the dealership will pass on his information as someone who can work on high end German Machines. He’s my age, in his early 60s, and has worked in several of the dealerships and was factory trained but doesn’t want to work 40 hours a week anymore. The good news is that most of these folks that own these kinds of cars own several cars, so they don’t mind if it takes weeks to get things fixed. And nowadays, getting parts can take weeks anyway, so you best not be in a hurry.
At this point no. Most of the rotating assembly is trash. Metal shavings probably mixed with the oil which probably scored the crank and cams. The parts and labor costs to replace everything would far exceed just buying a good working engine.
I haven’t looked at the video yet but im gonna guess no. at the Merc dealer it would be expensive because it has to be up to standard. Same with the insurance company. But when you or i buy the car and have a local dude who knows his stuff do the work and dont care about the “mercedes standard” its much cheaper and would make sense to try and fix
@@BigGuy10Points IF.... thr parts were available, I think it could be overhauled for less that the $15k they mentioned. It would be a completely fresh engine. Hopefully it would fare better than the "Mercedes Quality" sub 100k miles....
@@chadvarnell1889 Not a chance for $15k. Maybe $15k in parts but then the labor to build it. The block alone from Mercedes is probably 5-8k. Pistons rods cams, cam caps, gaskets, may as well replace accessories while the engine is apart, gaskets. It’s not feasible
Someone please correct me if I’m wrong because I’m not from America so this guy has a garage/dealership had a good deal with the guy he was buying it from originally so that when it was going to get a new engine in it he could straight up flip it for cash but instead the owner couldn’t deal with the hassle so sold it to the garage/dealership for his £28000 total but the garage technically paid £1000 total for the car then brought a salvaged engine and put it in with the new engine mounts and all the other service he said it needed for however much he paid for that I don’t know if this guy does the work on the cars himself but given he’s a garage/dealership registered business he might have gotten a below RRP for the engine mount and other components and fixed it himself or with his employees and has sold it before he’s even fixed it for a £27000 so I guess he saved a lot of money doing all the hassle work and got the original owner a quick sell and sold it for a good quick sell price himself I’m guessing if he would have brought it off the owner originally he would have made maybe $1000-$2000 but instead he made a lot more and is possibly the best way the deal could have went for all 3 party’s the original owner/seller himself the garage/dealership and the customer and this car is always going to be well looked after as it still goes back to the garage that has now sold it to the second owner if this is in a climate that is nice and hot/dry I can see this S class body and chassis reached a good 200,000-250,000 miles again please correct me if any of this is wrong
From memory, the original cylinder coating was called Silitec and the updated coating is called Nanoslide. I have never heard these use cast iron and I highly doubt it.
They tried to use spray in piston sleeves instead of cast iron and that's what caused the issues if you heard what he said in 2016 they ended up using cast iron completely instead of messing around with the spray in silicon piston sleeve
I think people don’t know, neglecting your car has always consequence , t I have seen s class of this generation with 400k miles and still drives like new . I only deal with Mercedes so I know exactly how they are really!!!!
not sure why the random photos(R8, Lambo SV, TVR, 20 yr old E and S class, as well as the CL, GLE, GL, Noble and RR) through out the video that have absolutely nothing to do with the story. Poor production values and editing
In what universe are you going to replace the block on an engine like that for $3k? (because you sure as hell aren't going to be repairing that kind of damage)
Appreciate your concern but no. The VSC inspected and approved the failure of the engine. We just happened to buy the vehicle afterward which ended in the net $1000 out of pocket to buy the car. Interesting fact actually with a VSC and especially a contract maxing claim, the VSC has no interest in the repair of the vehicle. Trust us, you think with a business to uphold that we would want to do that? Perhaps some thought would be warranted before making assumptions.
Ummmm… might want to take this video down. Sounds like he just admitted to billing a third party warranty company for services they didn’t actually do. Typically to get paid on those contracts you need to submit a completed work order with a customer signature. I hate insurance/warranty companies as much as the next guy, but this smacks of outright fraud. It’s the last thing I’d be admitting to and promoting
@@einhundertfunfzig4919 like I said, there’s no judgement from me I just hope he is ok.. It seems like a cry for attention, so I wanted them to understand that if things are bad, they will get better, that’s all.
Dumb to fix a known problem. For less than 10k you can swap a 5.3 ls and transmission in. You would be dumb to put the original POS back in. Hell for a daily driver you could put in bore out steel sleeves and new pistions.That would never fail as quick, if ever again. Rich fools spend stupid money to keep it original, when at 1/2 or less you can make it better.. I Hear Merc or BMW and all I think is over priced junk
And this way of thinking is why you'll always be driving a clapped out 97 Chevy talking about how you're gonna drop a crate 6.6 in it and living large in a double-wide trailer.
@@jguillot72 LOL no I drive a 1987 Jeep yj 4.2 6 for the last 22 years and a 2007 %.7 Cherokee for the last 7 as well. I am a Mechanic I hate working on my own junk that why I drive these they just run forever. Steel sleeve it or scrap it, just throwing money down the drain otherwiseI keep cars forever so why have the same problem 2x? we all know it will do the same thing again.
I'd pay 1000 dollars just to have it in my garage. Hifi audio system, nice chairs, and AC? Bargain
True that, make a nice sofa that if you cut it up, then make coffee tables and stuff out of the other parts. Then use the front seats for sim rigs and sell those too.
Yeah, just take out the gearbox and sell that for $2000, and have a nice place to hang out with friends.
I would love to put Mercedes chairs in my desk, work from home has never been more lux. Turn the rear seats into a sofa. That sound system good enough to give an amazing surround sound setup. I'm sure it's possible to rig the massaging for the seats too. Can sell other parts of the car steering wheel, screen, etc make back more than $1000
Not a bad idea but the second something that pops up that i can't afford to fix im going to cry
Cameron has been a huge asset to fix Ed's broken cars over the last few years. So cool to see him finding deals like this.
Seems a nice guy
The photos don't match up with the story. Weird edit choice.
agree makes no sense to insert random phots that have nothing to do with the story
Typical modern Mercedes reliability...SIGH
All the german cars are like this now.
I remember the days when people bought Mercedes and BMW because they outlasted other brands. The value proposition was you could keep them 20 yrs and 300,000 miles. Now everything is a commodity. Pity.
I’ve got a 20yr old W211 chassis E500 (Naturally aspirated 5.0L V8, non-AWD) with 168k on it.
I redid all the control arms, tie rods, ball joints, engine and transmission mounts, alternator, batteries, tires, brakes, cooling flush, power steering lines, power steering pump, and valve cover gaskets after I got it. Still need to replace all the air struts but they all hold air and work still (Bilstein B4/AMG E55 Airmatic setup, and yes I’m keeping it working with Arnott E55 replacements).
Paid $1,700 for the car that came with a set of rims worth about $300-500 a piece, put about $2k in parts and my own labor and I’ve got one of those very Mercedes you mentioned that was engineered to last 300k miles+
They don’t make them like they used to.
I havent seen rabbit’s car stories in a while.. been viewing vinwiki’s car stories since 2017 loving every videos you made Ed..
Probably because the rabbit x putsch drama, neither of them have really “came back” since then.
@@jus__grawhat happened?
Rabbids got his own UA-cam channel the podcasts
I watch him every day
An absolute snooze fest. Literally could not get to then end of the video.
I have an 2014 e550 and this makes me nervous. Could not remove the block and bore the cylinders out and resleeve the block fix the existing engine??
Soooo what I learned from this video is buy older toyotas and save money 💰 😅
Isn’t this textbook insurance fraud??
While the M278 is a good sounding engine is certainly has its scary flaws.
I'll never be wealthy enough to buy an S-Class, but if I ever do, I'll have to have MORE than enough to afford all the regular maintenance. Some say if you take super good care of it, it will last forever. But it'll be all that $$$ spent for that regular maintenance. Either way, Mercedes is getting all your money. If you're rich, I guess it doesn't matter.
There's nothing more expensive than a cheap German luxury car. The S-Class is the prime example of a car to only own/lease while it's in warranty.
@@bwofficial1776not as bad as range rovers. You could buy and S class and have it work well if you know what you’re doing
I had the same problem plus others misfiring on cylinder 8 on my 2015 S550 I got rid of it at Carmax for 12K and run away
😂😂😂
I have feeling that Cameron and I are going to be best friends on the fact that I have GL450
I have a friend who specializes in fixing high end Mercs, Audis, etc. You can get any of these cars after the warranties and service agreements are up for pennies on the dollar. The only thing worse than the service labor costs are the parts. What’s not expensive is hard to find and expensive! He’s tried to sell me several of these beautiful cars of the years. If they only had Toyota running gear they’d be perfect.
Where can we find em any sites you may know of?
Ls460!
What’s your friends contact or website?
@@filthysoap96 Sorry no website and I’ll have to see if he’s got an email etc. He has a home shop near Austin and mostly gets work from people who take their cars into the dealership when they break down. After they break out the defibrillator, often the dealership will pass on his information as someone who can work on high end German Machines. He’s my age, in his early 60s, and has worked in several of the dealerships and was factory trained but doesn’t want to work 40 hours a week anymore. The good news is that most of these folks that own these kinds of cars own several cars, so they don’t mind if it takes weeks to get things fixed. And nowadays, getting parts can take weeks anyway, so you best not be in a hurry.
A long explanation how it took 3 months and a lot of hassle to pay $28,500 for a Mercedes .
Ed you guys need to get the rabbit on PKA
Always glad to see Cameron on! Have a great day everyone
Thank you!
Long live the W222.
Can't believe it's almost 11 years old.
Sweet guy, nice find.
Is this a bit like the BMW Nikasil issue?
YEP....and the Porsche fiasco of the same flavor.....oh yeah and the same as the Chevy Vega thing of the 1970's
I probably would have parted it out, maybe there is more money in it that way then fixing it
The cast iron was from About 03/2015 (production date)
Is rebuilding/overhauling the engine not a viable option???
At this point no. Most of the rotating assembly is trash. Metal shavings probably mixed with the oil which probably scored the crank and cams.
The parts and labor costs to replace everything would far exceed just buying a good working engine.
I haven’t looked at the video yet but im gonna guess no. at the Merc dealer it would be expensive because it has to be up to standard. Same with the insurance company. But when you or i buy the car and have a local dude who knows his stuff do the work and dont care about the “mercedes standard” its much cheaper and would make sense to try and fix
@@BigGuy10Points IF.... thr parts were available, I think it could be overhauled for less that the $15k they mentioned. It would be a completely fresh engine. Hopefully it would fare better than the "Mercedes Quality" sub 100k miles....
@@chadvarnell1889 Not a chance for $15k. Maybe $15k in parts but then the labor to build it. The block alone from Mercedes is probably 5-8k. Pistons rods cams, cam caps, gaskets, may as well replace accessories while the engine is apart, gaskets. It’s not feasible
@@BigGuy10Points The block looked salvageable, may need sleeves at worse. Without a teardown, it is all speculation.
Why would anyone buy a Mercedes. Full engine failure at 100k?
That's a rare fluke. Most benz don't really have engine issues compared to other luxury brands
LOL@@mercedesbenzisbest
@@mercedesbenzisbestbut most that year did 😂make it make sense
Classic Mercedes had excellent engines and transmissions
Easy, sell it to some idiot after a 3 year 30k miles lease
Is this problem only found on 2014-2016 models ? How about 2012-2013 models with Twin Turbo engines ?
Same engine, Same problem.
Hahaha my lotus made a VINwiki video!
Private Pyle still lookong pretty young these days.
Kool story
So tht shit had no light on but needed a new engine the whole time ? Wtf
This story sorta sucked
Someone please correct me if I’m wrong because I’m not from America so this guy has a garage/dealership had a good deal with the guy he was buying it from originally so that when it was going to get a new engine in it he could straight up flip it for cash but instead the owner couldn’t deal with the hassle so sold it to the garage/dealership for his £28000 total but the garage technically paid £1000 total for the car then brought a salvaged engine and put it in with the new engine mounts and all the other service he said it needed for however much he paid for that I don’t know if this guy does the work on the cars himself but given he’s a garage/dealership registered business he might have gotten a below RRP for the engine mount and other components and fixed it himself or with his employees and has sold it before he’s even fixed it for a £27000 so I guess he saved a lot of money doing all the hassle work and got the original owner a quick sell and sold it for a good quick sell price himself I’m guessing if he would have brought it off the owner originally he would have made maybe $1000-$2000 but instead he made a lot more and is possibly the best way the deal could have went for all 3 party’s the original owner/seller himself the garage/dealership and the customer and this car is always going to be well looked after as it still goes back to the garage that has now sold it to the second owner if this is in a climate that is nice and hot/dry I can see this S class body and chassis reached a good 200,000-250,000 miles again please correct me if any of this is wrong
From memory, the original cylinder coating was called Silitec and the updated coating is called Nanoslide. I have never heard these use cast iron and I highly doubt it.
German engineering… at its finest cost of fortune and doesn’t go 100,000 miles
My ML55 AMG 01 at 230k miles they run treat it right 🤙🤙
Curious to know. How did the engine develop that issue? Or did I miss that part? Is it one of those fatal flaws things?
One of those things!
They tried to use spray in piston sleeves instead of cast iron and that's what caused the issues if you heard what he said in 2016 they ended up using cast iron completely instead of messing around with the spray in silicon piston sleeve
This is piss poor from Mercedes, shocking that he would struggle to find a workable engine.
Used engine 5K at most
You may have another chance with that car when the piston slap starts.
I think people don’t know, neglecting your car has always consequence , t
I have seen s class of this generation with 400k miles and still drives like new . I only deal with Mercedes so I know exactly how they are really!!!!
what year? He said they fixed that particular issue by 2016
How legal is this exactly?
Completely. The VSC approved the failure, the funds were used to fix the vehicle. Then it got sold.
This story makes no sense...
I’m kicking myself now !!!!
not sure why the random photos(R8, Lambo SV, TVR, 20 yr old E and S class, as well as the CL, GLE, GL, Noble and RR) through out the video that have absolutely nothing to do with the story. Poor production values and editing
Whereee
Your story definitely confirms that the owner was an idiot, even now I pay 15000 for that car and rebuild the engine for 3k
In what universe are you going to replace the block on an engine like that for $3k? (because you sure as hell aren't going to be repairing that kind of damage)
Isnt this considered fraud?..
How so?
Appreciate your concern but no. The VSC inspected and approved the failure of the engine. We just happened to buy the vehicle afterward which ended in the net $1000 out of pocket to buy the car. Interesting fact actually with a VSC and especially a contract maxing claim, the VSC has no interest in the repair of the vehicle. Trust us, you think with a business to uphold that we would want to do that? Perhaps some thought would be warranted before making assumptions.
Ummmm… might want to take this video down. Sounds like he just admitted to billing a third party warranty company for services they didn’t actually do. Typically to get paid on those contracts you need to submit a completed work order with a customer signature. I hate insurance/warranty companies as much as the next guy, but this smacks of outright fraud. It’s the last thing I’d be admitting to and promoting
If you paid attention, he DID use the warranty money to repair the car.
Remind me not to take my car to your place
This guys stories are great… but he needs Ed to narrate his stories. His voice is nails on a very effeminate chalkboard.
I was wondering if he had a husband or wife, but I think you may have answered that for me.
First
Loser
Grow up kid, this isnt a participation award sport....SIGH
Why do people do this genuinely I’m not insulting you mate but what do you get out of that? Is your life that bad?
@@AI-Records24does it have efect on you? No so why you care?
@@einhundertfunfzig4919 like I said, there’s no judgement from me I just hope he is ok.. It seems like a cry for attention, so I wanted them to understand that if things are bad, they will get better, that’s all.
Dumb to fix a known problem. For less than 10k you can swap a 5.3 ls and transmission in. You would be dumb to put the original POS back in. Hell for a daily driver you could put in bore out steel sleeves and new pistions.That would never fail as quick, if ever again.
Rich fools spend stupid money to keep it original, when at 1/2 or less you can make it better.. I Hear Merc or BMW and all I think is over priced junk
And this way of thinking is why you'll always be driving a clapped out 97 Chevy talking about how you're gonna drop a crate 6.6 in it and living large in a double-wide trailer.
@@jguillot72 LOL no I drive a 1987 Jeep yj 4.2 6 for the last 22 years and a 2007 %.7 Cherokee for the last 7 as well. I am a Mechanic I hate working on my own junk that why I drive these they just run forever. Steel sleeve it or scrap it, just throwing money down the drain otherwiseI keep cars forever so why have the same problem 2x? we all know it will do the same thing again.