Donner Circle Looper Loop Pedal - FULL Review
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- In this video I review the Donner Circle Looper Pedal and see what’s unique about it.
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#looppedal #donner #looper
Absolutely zero lies, I made the same face at the disco setting. Thanks for the killer demo!!
Lots of fun! 😉 you’re welcome 🙏
Excellent how-to instruction manual for this looper! Getting one soon and certain I’ll be rewatching this a couple of times. (Also learned that there’s such a thing as a multi phrase looper, which I’ll look into after this one.) Thanks!
Multi phrase loopers are more than one looper in the same box. For example, the Boss RC-500 has two tracks, for either working together. Maybe a 2bar loop for rhythms and a 4bar loop for guitar and bass. The RC-600 has 6 loops! The possibilities are endless!
That deep voice was unexpected lol. Cool demo.
Haha. Thanks 🙏
I was looking at the Boss RC10R entirely for the drum machine. But $360 is way more than I'm wanting to spend on a loop pedal. So I just ordered this. I can't wait till it gets here.
Yeah it’s a great looper and an awesome price. 👍🏼
Have you tried uploading to a computer from the USB? I love this looper but I’m about maxed out and need to get the tracks on my laptop!
The process is pretty simple but effective. 👍🏻
Just looks like a hard drive (unsure about PC but looks like that on a Mac).
Hi! I am not very
tech savvy. Can I connect my electro-acoustic ukulele and my bass ukulele at the
same time directly to the looper without damaging the looper or the amp. And
should I then connect the 2 amplifiers at the output in accordance with the input?
Thank you.
Hey Henri.
Yes you can. This would be dual mono looping. Go from instruments > Looper > amp. For example Ukulele on the Left in and Left out and Bass Uke on the Right In/out.
This way any loops made with the uke and bass uke are separate.
But be aware that the drums come out of both and will go into both amps which, if you want to use them, might sound weird if they are different amps.
Hope this helps 👍🏻
If I record a clean tone to loop then change the amp to a distorted tone (or any other effect or tone), the loop then goes from clean tone to distorted max. I want to keep the loop clean. Is there a way I can do this? Basically, I want to have the clean loop playing while I jam over it with a distorted tone.
The only way for this to happen is if you have your clean tone going to a clean amp.. or see if you can get the distorted tone out of your amp through an FX send into the looper? Other than that, you would need a distorted pedal to go into the looper and keep the amp clean.
Use a pedal board into a clean tone on your amp. Put the looper as the very last effect on the pedal. That way you can record a clean tone, play the loop, hit the footswitch on a distortion/boost pedal ... and record an over dub with an over driven tone ... on top of the already clean tone.
I like that idea.
I've had this pedal for 2 years now, really enjoy it. But now I'm having problems with the right foot switch, when I record a loop it won't shut off. I press it and press it and it keeps playing. It does finally stop when I press it quickly multiple times. Then when I press it to play it won't turn on. Their must be a short in the foot switch. Anyone have any similar problems? Any suggestions?
This is interesting and something similar happened to me with another manufacturer who uses these kind of switches..
I would suggest reach out to Donner and see if that would replace it for you or have a fix option. 👍🏼
OK JohnPaul very good and thank you. Question: If you have the output from left and right plugged into 2 different amplifiers.... you record the first phrase. when you record the second phrose will it throw the signal to one amp and let you play over it on the other amp? The way a BOSS stereo delay does. My DD7 does that. But, you canl't use it as a looper live. Can you help me with this?
Hi Richard. It depends on what’s plugged in on the other side. If you only plug into input L (mono) it will come out of both as the routing defaults to stereo. You can’t route separately I’m afraid.
Hardly any Volume coming through!
cant hear ya
Yeah sorry the volume was a little low.
Always Learning.
After seeing a few of them this is the best video for those, like me, looking for a 'how to use it' guide, thanks a lot! And it made me smile as well
Aww that’s great! So happy it’s helped and put a smile on your face too. 👍🏼
@@JohnPaulMusicUK There is plenty of good info & influencers on about this pedal, but your "how to" is the best, tyvm.
Okay so let me see if I got this straight cuz I've never used one of these before, but I have ordered one and it's one its way. A couple questions if I may...
- Can you only record like, guitar tracks on this thing and that's your loop? Or can you plug it into your PC and upload other stuff for it to loop, like say... a specific drum or guitar track?
- I'm guessing from what I've seen that the thing can play more than one loop at a time...?
Hey 👋
That’s cool you’ve ordered one. So you can record anything and yes you can off load or upload tracks to it like drums or a guitar track.
You can overdub on top of the loop and add as much as you want to one loop an it has memories so you can jump from one loop to another but it plays one loop (which can contain lots of layers of audio) and one drum beat at a time.
Hope that helps.
New to looping here. I also wanted to do voice loops but cannot figure out if I can just do it with the Donner, microphone and Amp or if I need an additional attachment.
Hey 👋
You would either need to use an XLR to Jack cable for one of the two inputs or use a mixer, plug your instrument and mic into the mixer and then the output of the mixer goes into the looper.
I also have a beginners course on looping where we use many different loopers (including the Donner Circle Looper) teaching on how to loop from the beginning and loop like a PRO.
Limited time price atm. Check it out: johnpaulmusicuk.mykajabi.com/how-to-loop-like-a-pro
YES!!! Circle Looper's beats per minute sync "close enough" so we can easily hit the looper button and the loop "quantizes" or stops on the bar, or close enough it does NOT hiccup and get further off with each loop cycle (on some Beat Buddy beats ONLY, because Beat Buddy beats get recorded with human drummers, so they too are not as accurate as digital. Who cares? Record the Beat Buddy into the loop! TAKE NOTES OF CIRCLE LOOPER DRUM AND TEMPO for your loops, in case you need to recreate, or move slots. Seems circle looper's software handles the metadat about its beats and tempo, so write things down to edit .WAV loops in Audacity for loundess, EQ, etc. and import new WAV files into the clooper. Circke Looper uses 24 bit, and Boss RC-3 uses 16 bit, so pay attention when you edit/export/save/create the file in Audacity, for example. I love my Circle Looper! I did cover the looper button with a cap to avoid mistakenly hitting it during a step to Stop, which avoids going into Record mode and polluting your backup loop.
That’s awesome and some great tips! Thank you 🙏
How did you get your computer to connect with the looper pedal? I haven't been able to find anyone with a software or workaround to access the loops or even edit the existing loops. Thanks for your great tips!
Just finished watching your review of the Donner circle looper. Glad I did! Very informative( answered some questions I had about it) and you made it easy to understand and follow! ( Only regret I have is I saw your post AFTER I had purchased one! 5% off would have been nice but I'm definitely not disappointed!) Thank you and keep up the great work! Sincerely and with respect, J Parry , New Mexico
Glad it was helpful! Thank you so much! 👍🏻
I make the same old man noises these days...
🤣 making more now!! 🤣
Software for Windows doesnt work. Any solution?
You’ve tried this?
drive.google.com/file/d/1EFgQuOZ3hQd3wOZ39SrC9hV1TPak_Qke/view?pli=1
@@JohnPaulMusicUK What is is? Is the the same software whih is also on the website of Donner?
Paul, wrt your “very small gripe” aka 9v DC option for busking - you can purchase from places such as Amazon (other stores are available!) a 9v battery / DC clip on lead. I use these when busking with a couple of pedals that do not have a battery compartment and they work perfectly. Haven’t tried it with my Donner Circle looper yet but I can’t see why it won’t work. You can also get 9v USB adaptors, so you can use a power brick (the kind of back up power you might get for your mobile devices (phones, tablets etc) which gives you a rechargeable source of power with probably a greater lifespan than a regular 9v dc battery! Hope this helps
That’s great and does help.
Thank you 🙏
Really good video. Thank you. (I'm expecting my circle looper today). One suggestion. Your voice-over sounded very muffled ie no treble. Thanks again. Best descriptive video on this looper I've seen yet.
Hey Steve, Sorry about that, yeah it wasn't the best recording day.
Certainly noted and best quality audio on the way. 👍
I agree about the sound quality ((seemed to sound muffled) but I ALSO ABSOLUTELY agree that this is the best educational, informative & easy to follow video that I have seen to date since looking up the Donner Looper so thank you very much indeed for taking the time to get this out there. Cheers 😉👍
You’re more than welcome 🙏
I've had this for almost a year now. Basically just use the drumbeats at this point. Have so much more to explore.
It’s a great little looper and that audio save function is awesome!
Got this yesterday and found out by accident that of you press both metal bottoms at the bottom it switches modes at the top so it doesn't damage the plastic dails at the top
Oooh! Nice tip. 👍🏻
@@JohnPaulMusicUK I tried a cover of save tonight with the circle last night sounds great worried about levels cause I want to use it at an open mic is there any sure ways of having it set so it sounds balanced at any live setting
Is the sound really down quiet on here or is it just me?
Yes it’s a little low. That’s my bad when I produced the video.
Dyslexia strikes from 2:48 to 2:52. Your graphic for RHS is on the left and vice versa 🔁
😂 didn’t even realise it!
Wow! Not like me. Thank you for pointing this out. 👍🏻
Is it possible to record a guitar line synced with the drums, and then somehow ONLY drop out the guitar line so just the drums continue, then bring back in the guitar line? For context, I'm trying to cover "Can I Kick It" by A Tribe Called Quest.
Yes. There is a way.. sort of.
The drum and the looper can be separate or together depending on the middle green button.
So you could use the looper and the rhythm independently and not use the merge button. That way you have to click the top dials to toggle between the looper and the rhythm. Harder to do live but it can be done with practice.
So, if I understand, we can record voice and our instrument (guitar or ukulele) at the same time ?
It has two jack inputs so technically yes but you will have trouble with individual volumes as it will think it’s a stereo input and not 2 mono inputs.
I don't recommend this until they get their quality assurance sorted. Mine came bricked and stuck on 'input clipping', even when nothing is plugged in. I can't even get it to be recognized by my PC when I plug it in via USB. Shame.
That is such a shame. Mine doesn’t have any of those issues. Might have just got an unexpected failed one.
Hope they sorted it for you and swapped it?
@@JohnPaulMusicUK They were happy to send me a new one for no extra cost. Great service, fingers crossed this ones all good
Well the best thing ive found is its impossable to get along playing in bar bands . But this looper alows me my need to feeļ like iam playing with other musicians i can get along with. If i dont like what their playing i just click the button and find another one. But this looper does lead to multiple personality disorder.
Its really awesome for the bucks.
Haha. That’s a brilliant review of it. 😂
But yes multiple personality disorder.. I get what you mean. 😉
If I’m done with a song “live” - do i have to bend down and push that little middle button to clear the loop after every song ?
No. If you have a look at the right hand button, you have a clear. Hold down for a few seconds and it will clear the loop. 👍🏻
The only thing I can see as a negative is why they made the screen so small for such a large form?
That’s true but probably to keep the costs down.
@@JohnPaulMusicUK From what I can gather, it's the same basic circuitry as the Flamma FS21, which would explain why the screens are the same size.
I have this and love it, but how did you "undo" what sounded like more than one layer, i.e. bass and high vocal?
I recorded them in one take, therefore it was one recording to undo.
Hope that makes sense?
EDIT: The accidental edit thing still stands, but doh! You just turn the knob when on the BPM setting, far easier for me anyway than hitting the blinking Tap Tempo button!
I've went back to a loop more than once and accidentally changed the BPM, very easy to do. Which is mad as I can't see why anyone would WANT to do that. It's then totally out of sync and it stores the new BPM. Is there a way to manually enter it?
( be nice if once anything recorded the BPM was fixed but .. )
Might have to write down the BPMs of anything I record and want to keep..
Ahhh that’s annoying.
Not aware of a way to manually edit it.
Worth reaching out to Donner’s Support service@idonner.eu
Great Video thanks! Bought one despite having the headrush looper. The headrush is powerful & flexible but it is sometimes a bit of a technical faff. This little gem is simple, immediate, and gives me the headspace for musical ideas
This is it Mike, exactly! I’m so glad you get it.
A have the same feeling that sometimes you just want a basic looper, maybe for an open mic night, busking, or to just figure out harmonics or ideas.
👍🏼
But if wants to switch the device! Where?
Your a one man army
I certainly try! 🤣
@JohnPaulMusicUK I went to the official website and put in my card information . . Then was prompted possible illegitimate website. Should I call them directly?
Has anyone figured out a good slow dancing in a burning room drum loop on this?
I suppose for that song, it’s almost a basic boots and cats drum beat that’s quite a slow bpm and then maybe you could put the output of that through a reverb to get that snare sound.. but then your loops would be through the same reverb.
Thanks for the vid!! Can you make a follow up video about the extended control/footswitch option?
Jason you read my mind.
It’s on the cards.
Watch this space
👍🏻
Hi JohnPaul thanks for the vid - fab. I normally use a RC 300 but just bought Donner Circle for small gigs and live loop acoustics etc. ONE ISSUE I FIND IS A PROBLEM. I WONDER FI YOU KNWO A WAY TO RESOLVE IT. EACH TRACK (mem) AUTO SAVES - B UT THE LEVEL AND FADE OF ONE AUTO TRANSFERS TO THE REST. THATS A BIT OF A PIAN CSO SOEMTIMES YOU WNAT A NICE QUITE RYTHYM AND MAYBE A 2 SECOND FADE AND ON ANOTHER YOU'D WANT A BIT LOUDER AND MAYBE NO FADE. ITS DOING MY HEAD IN. ANY IDEAS? Ed James
can you just have the guitar and mic both plugged straight in to the looper?
Yes. You would need an XLR to jack lead for the mic but yes you can. 👍🏻
Your jams sound like Lost "beta band" recordings.😁
😂 had a lot of fun with it.
Once stopped you can clear a loop with the right stomp button too.
Are you in the rhythm mode or the loop mode or in sync mode?
@@JohnPaulMusicUK it should work in any mode, once a loop is paused. Loop must be "stopped" first.
So... Cycle to "stop" and then hold right stomp. Also, you can bounce between modes by pressing both stomps. Basically you never have to take your hands off your instrument...unless you want to change drum tracks, and then you'd have to resort to some hawt toe stuff lol
hi John Paul ...love your looper tutorials quick question : with this looper can you save all your settings for each seperate memory slot for example can i save a particular loop with a 5 Second fade out feature and another with a 0 Second fadeout setting ?
You can save your loops but the general settings are across the board.
Anybody knows where is the main switch on and off!
Can the drums and loop be turned on and off independently when synced?I.e so that when loopis stopped drums keep playing and if drums are stopped loop can keep playing?
Am I to understand that you can't jump from one memory space to another while in Play mode? Not clear on this.
You can jump from one memory to another whilst playing, yes.
@@JohnPaulMusicUK And do the drums follow? Thinking about multipule parts for "songs."
Awesome! Are you able to delete the stock drum loops and add your own? And does it save your loops if you turn it off?
You can’t get rid of the stock drum loops no but it does save if turned off.
Handy 👍🏻
Its not a quality piece of hardware... I got mine for xmas, i'm dissapointed ... it hiccups at the most inopportune moments
Oh really?! That’s such a shame.
Haven’t had hiccups with mine. Maybe reach out to to the company and see if there is a way to have it swapped.
@@JohnPaulMusicUK yeah it will just completely fail randomly, i think its from being left on all day n night, heat or something
Ohh maybe.
Contact Donner and see if they know of the issue and see if they can swap it under the warranty.
Rubbish it hasn’t a switch on or off!
A lot of the smaller loopers don’t.
Could you send it to me for a try? Please.
Contact donner here: idonner.eu/pages/contact
what a joke 🤣👎
How come? Any constructive feedback?
This is a really good video. The one question I have is I'm looking at getting a looper for my bass practice so that I can play along with a beat and then easily record myself and listen back to my playing. Is that any trouble recording that way with this looper and then deleting the loop right away so that I can just rinse and repeat as I go through my practice session? I mainly trying to figure out if I'm going to be able to do everything with my feet and not have to reach down to the floor every time I want to delete a loop...
Hey Alexi
So basically, thats EXACTLY what you could do but if you have a sudden "OMG, I MADE AN AMZING RIFFF" moment, you can save it onto one of the 40 memory slots and it saves the beat you picked as well.
@@JohnPaulMusicUK Thanks! That's awesome and a good point! I just ordered one of these... given this is how it works I think it may help me take my practice up to next level. Cheers!
Loopers and awesome to timing and practice to level up. Enjoy it and let me know what you think. 👍🏻
So I've had this pedal for about a week and it's amazing! It's really well designed and allows for a nice flow. This looks like it's going to be a game changer for me, it makes it so smooth to jump in and record and listen back to something I'm practicing. That kind of feedback loop I think will really speed up my progress. Thanks again for this video and answering my questions!
That’s awesome Alexi, I’m glad it’s helping your creativity. Enjoy. 👍🏼
How would it work for live recording of two tracks, verse and chorus, with sequential playbacks? Would an external footswitch allow that? Build one track, hit the button to switch to track 2 staying in sync with the beat? I've been trying to get that to work on a Boss RC-500 and I'm struggling
So with the boss RC-500 there is no auto save and you have to build the loop, then stop the loop, save it and then you can go onto the next one. With the Circle looper, it auto saves and there is an external foot switch option that allows going up and down memories. Very handy.
For the RC-500 have a look at this:
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Thank you for the demo.
Was fun to watch.
Does anyone know if you can route the drums to one output going to an acoustic amp?
Take care and stay safe
Is there any way to add drum fills in spots with this device? Thank you.
Hi John.
You know what, that is a great question which I’m going to find out for you. Will update you this weekend when I can find out for you.
Ever find out if it has drum fills?
@@lehmusic2675 I just got one. The drum patterns have fills programed between measures. Not all measures. Seems like mostly every 8th measure. There's no way to add fills when you want them.
I got one last month, no fills but beats are good. I do like how can run drums to different amp on left out
Hey all. I’m sorry I didn’t follow up on this. Yeah, there are ‘fills’ when you use the beats but you can’t add a fill yourself.
Thanks for this very complete review ! I was wondering before taking one myyself if it is possible to play on this looper with two separate instruments simultaneously (bass & guitar to be precise) ? ; much like what you did with the guitar/microphone combo. Althought i'm not sure if the dual mono looping process is necessary on that case ?
Sorry for bothering I've really searched everywhere for the answer !
Good day to you !
Floyd
Hey Floyd 👋
So there are two mini inputs so yes you could plug in as dual mono, one guitar into one input and and bass I to another.
Totally doable. 👍🏻
Difference between Flamma fs21 and this?
They are VERY VERY close.. in fact they look like they have the same internals?!?! Are they the same company?!
30 bucks and a power supply ....and the color!
Can you upload backing tracks onto it
Does the drum machine do "fills"?
This device is not very practical without a main switch on and off !
It follows the same as the boss loopers like the RC-5, RC-30, RC-500 etc, plug in the left mono out to turn it on. Unplug to turn it off.
Not really a full review...
Not really a full response… 🤷♂️
@@JohnPaulMusicUK in comparison, now you know how I feel!
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@@JohnPaulMusicUK Hi John, so I ended up buying the version from Flamma FS21 and very satisfied. It is said on the forums that it is a completely identical looper to the Donner, is that correct?
I guess there's no usb out?
That's my next purchase
It’s real good fun 👍🏻
Link in the description to pick one up.
@@JohnPaulMusicUK I'm in the States, but thank you
good luck seeing that screen if you're over 50
😂
The main switch on and off?
The main switch for switch on and off the device!? Where ?
It follows the same as the boss loopers like the RC-5, RC-30, RC-500 etc, plug in the left mono out to turn it on. Unplug to turn it off.
@@JohnPaulMusicUK thanks so much!
Bought mine yesterday. The basic controls were fairly straightforward, but I learned more from this demo. Thank you!
So far, I’m loving it for creating a 12 bar rhythm backing track so I can practice improvising the lead.
Nice! Great looper. 👍🏻 😊
I've been using this since January and it's my first looper. For the money ( I got it with a chunk off) even full price, I'd say it's good for the money. Great for recording backing tracks to jam badly to, and just having fun, much simpler than using a full "recording" setup to for grief free inspiration. I've bought other pedals for similar prices I don't even use, if you've not got a looper and are bedroom jammer and don't want to spend a lot I'd certainly consider this. The drums are perhaps bit drum machiney but good enough for what it is, it's not specifically a "pro" drum machine.
Consdering getting a footswitch, they aren't very clear about it but from what I've read the Digitech fs3x works (just couldn't see it in stock here last time I looked).
To me, it’s super complicated. …Kinda testing my patience actually.
That’s such a shame. Is that the pedal or looping in general?