To Tell the Truth - "I've Got A Secret" crossover episode! (Jan 18, 1965)
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- Опубліковано 14 лип 2024
- PANEL: Henry Morgan, Bess Myerson, Bill Cullen, Betsy Palmer
CONTESTANT #1: John Turk (Swan keeper)
CONTESTANT #2: Patricia Sonnan (Director of a fashion school in Japan)
CONTESTANT #3: Richard Spencer (Editor of the Harvard Lampoon)
Many thanks, as always, to epaddon for providing his copy of this episode.
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I love this show so much. Im 26 and my boyfriend is 21 and we both like older stuff like this, last night we had a fun calm chill evening just cuddling on the couch watching To Tell The Truth while he knitted. Neither of us guessed correctly very often at all but it was still so much fun. I miss this era of tv and movies so very much
In the past year, we've lost not only Polly Bergen and Jayne Meadows, but now Betsy Palmer, too. Betsy was really the last of the surviving regular panel members from the classic Goodson-Todman shows (in her case, on "I've Got a Secret"), making this especially sad for us fans of these programs.
In tribute to her memory, today I'm posting the three episodes where she was on the panel of TTTT. Not the happiest note to start the channel off with, but as I've said in these situations in the past, I always think it's better to watch these shows and remember the joy these performers brought to us, rather than our just feeling sad about their passing. I sincerely believe that this is what they would have wanted.
As a result of this unexpected deviation from schedule, regular postings to the new TTTT channel will begin tomorrow.
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To Tell the Truth (CBS) and thanx for posting Betsy today.
No, no, no. Orson Bean is still with us.
Orson Bean from "To Tell The Truth" is still knocking about at 90. I always loved his contributions.
Thank-you for posting these gems from television's infancy. I agree... they offer entertainment and insight into an era when class and good-natured charm made these shows, simplistic in nature, such a joy.
I really enjoyed watching the panel of TTTT on "I've Got A Secret," and the panel of IGAS on "To Tell The Truth." Both panels did very well.
I think Bess Myerson knew a little bit more about Japan than the other panelists. She asked "Charm School Director" # 1 what street her school was located on. In fact, there are no street names here--with the exception of a few avenues that bear names for the benefits of tourists, such as "The Ginza.". Mailing addresses use a system of zones, and no one (including myself) knows the name of the "street" he/she lives on--since there are none.
The thing that strike me about seeing TTTT episodes again one after another is its visual style. TTTT is pretty dramatic visually for a mere panel game show. The camera focuses on the drop curtain with its sketch of the man in swearing-in-stance; the music comes up; the lights go out so that the screen is dark for a few seconds; the curtain then rises to reveal three back-lighted silhouettes; this increases the drama of finally seeing their faces.
soulierinvestments Yes, I had the same thoughts. The camera is VERY active in these shows, to the extent that it sometimes makes my stomach a bit queasy. :) This unfortunately is not served well by kinescope recordings, which make hash out of fast movement. I have one recording of a daytime TTTT in its native videotape format that aired on GSN, and wow-- the difference is dramatic.
+To Tell the Truth (CBS) The "Zoom Lens" came in 1955. It would have been very difficult to use the rotating multi lens, used when television began. To Tell the Truth began in 1956.
There was a WML/IGAS crossover episode, in September 1961. I was in the studio audience. I've searched everywhere for this episode but have never found it.
I know some didnt like Henry Morgan but I thought he was a hoot!
I've been a fan of his from his radio days. He was great.
He is a very talented comic.
He was very charming and funny here. Not so much on Whats My Line.
I thought that #1 was the swan gatherer in that first round. Swans can be very ornery, and he was such a grump that I was sure it had to be him! LOL
The Charm School lady died age 88 in Hawaii in May 2022. In an online interview prior to her death, she stated the charm school failed and eventually became a modeling agency which she sold in 1970. Google her - sounds like she had an interesting life.
We've also lost Bess Myerson this past year. All of the "Line" and "Secret" panelists have passed on; I think Orson Bean is the last surviving panelist from the original "TTTT" (unless you count Dick Van Dyke, who was on in the early days of 1956-57 and Phyllis Newman, who was usually seen on the daytime version). I agree, too, with the thought that it is better to remember the joy these people brought us; Gil Fates pointed that out in the form letter he sent "Line" viewers protesting the showing of early-'70s appearances by Bennett Cerf after his passing in 1971.
17:11 "Bess Myerson was articulate" "What does that mean?" lol
3 for 3! It was refreshing watching TTTT without all the inuendo that goes on today. Now I want to watch I've Got a Secret with the TTTT panel.
Actually there was innuendo about the woman with Bill Cullen; did you miss it, or doesn't it count?
@@ADAMSIXTIES I missed it. There is a lot of inuendo about people--living and dead. Including some singers and other performers. Could you please be more specific?
Good night and God Bless - - try saying that on TV today
I know. It's awesome how we're finally shedding the caveman culture of christianity.
Cavemen said "God bless?" Well, Red Skelton always did. I don't think it would be permitted today.
Betsy Palmer, Bess Myerson, and the 1st young lady from the 2nd game all had pleasant features. That is an understatement. This was an interesting show with the changeup of the panelists. They did a pretty good job.
Loved both shows! This is great!
I enjoy seeing these clips
I knew of Bess Myerson as a kid when she was involved with NYC politics, a good friend of Mayor Ed Koch. Her political aspirations unfortunately ended in scandal, and she finally left the public eye. I met Betsy Palmer once at a sci-fi convention. I was surprised she was there. She was nice to speak with. Of course she was signing autographs of her pictures as Jason Vorhees mother, but she also had pictures of her younger days from I've Got A Secret. It was on Game Show Network at the time. My mother was more a fan of her than I, so I got her autograph on my mother's behalf.
Bess Myerson was MISS AMERICA for 1945, the FIRST Jewish Miss America.
In the last panel, the real guy said that Betsy Palmer answered her own phone, but she couldn't hear him over the other guy (can't tell if it was Bill or Henry).
10:14 Ha ha, Bill Cullen asks if she was an airline stewardess in this country. He should just have asked what country she was an airline stewardess in. His brain is stuck in "I've got a secret" mode.
Well, Betsy Palmer completely gave the third one away (which was why I was totally shocked when she voted for #1). She asked them who answered the phone when they called, and #3 was the only one who said her.
And then she says, I answered the phone and nobody recognize my voice (or something like that), but she practically TOLD us it was #3 (which again was really surprising when she voted for #1)
John Daly in the early WML seasons, mentioned sponsors; but I don't recall seeing him lay a hand on a product. And eventually, he did not mention sponsor products at all. Here it is 1965 -- 9 years into the TTTT run -- and Bud *still* has to plug the sponsor and hold it up in his hand. Bud needed John''s agent to negotiate for him.
soulierinvestments Somehow I doubt that Bud minded doing the commercial spots the way John would have.
What about poor Garry Moore, having to smoke a cigarette during the show just because Winston was a sponsor?
Did you all know that this is the same Betsy Palmer who played Jason's mom in the Friday the 13th horror series.
Yep. :)
I wonder if Peter Gabel and Jonathan Cerf were on the Lampoon staff by 1965.
soulierinvestments They were still in high school at this point.
How did THEY come into this? (the episode was pretty boring; I only watched the 3rd one)
AMAZING!
Bud's hair is so dyed , and there is a hair piece in front !!!! Bettcies head is so big !!!!
I can't find an answer to the "difference between a Harvard man and an MIT man" question that makes sense in the context of this episode. My Google-fu has failed me. 😢
Same here. I had hoped that answer would have been revealed before the show ended.
@@shadowlouiseSame here, and I was graduated from MIT.
16:15 Editor of the Harvard Lampoon called them all on the phone; shouldn't this have disqualified the one that recognized his voice? And the 2nd one recognized it too, but voted wrong anyway. And they asked zero questions about the Harvard Lampoon, only about the phone calls. This segment didn't make sense to me, especially why the other two didn't recognize the voice.
In the question, Bess Myerson didn't get to finish, about another one in The Royal Household, (a former) who had just written a book... I wonder if that could be Thomas Cronin, Princess Margaret's butler, (who later was revealed as a spy) and who also was a contestant on "You Bet Your Life", February 2, 1961? (Link: ua-cam.com/video/dxjHhbnP4Dw/v-deo.html )
SuperWinterborn Could very well be-- I doubt there were a lot of books written by former servants to the royal family! Good catch.
The first blonde looked like she was climbing the walls.
Betsy, #3 did say you answered the phone. You don’t hear too good.
my dad was on tttt in the early 60s he was the fake .can i fine him . he was a dimond expert / cutter
Game #1: How ironic that many years later, Mister Donut would be bought out by Dunkin' Donuts.
Game #2: In hindsight, everyone knows the name of the Budo Khan Arena in Tokyo. The Beatles would play there the following year.
Game #3: Of course we all know in the 1970's, the Harvard Lampoon would license its name to another publication, the National Lampoon.
Will you be eventually uploading the Hunter S Thompson episode?
plasticonofan If I can get a copy, sure (I don't have anything beyond 1965 at the moment). That show is at the very end of the run of the entire series, though, so it will be quite a while even if I do find a copy.
Ok well hopefully you or somebody can upload it eventually. All I've seen was a small clip in a documentary on him.
Correct name is Patricia Salmon
when american society used to be sensible, and civil.
the crossover is not complete, because bud collier needs to be replaced by the host of the ive got a secret show.
1:16 2:19
9:07 16:11
I always liked Henry Morgan except for his appearance on WML where he was totally disagreeable and rude
I remember that! It stands out in my memory because he WAS SO rude. I wondered if he meant to be humorous, and it just fell flat. Maybe he didn't really want to be there, but he clearly offended Bennett Cerf.
Wasn't Bill Cullen married to Betty White?
Bill Bergendahl. No Betty was married to password guy Allen Ludden
@@maureen5540 Yea, but she was married a couple of times before that (but not to Bill Cullen)
That's Allen Ludden.
Man #2 in Game #1
Lady #3 in Game #2
Man #3 in Game #3
I would have done nasty things to Bess.
And after all these years, she's STILL the only Jewish Miss America.