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  • Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
  • I was surprised by what I have seen in my local dealerships. How can sales be up with this much inventory still sitting on the show room floors?

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  • @wtf0101
    @wtf0101 Місяць тому +35

    No more mom and pop dealers,corporate owners is a big problem,no more deals

    • @0hi0hdmc
      @0hi0hdmc  Місяць тому +4

      Crazy how it happened! Used to be proud to be owned by the workers!

  • @robertjeffery6100
    @robertjeffery6100 Місяць тому +42

    They are seriously woke paying for transition surgery
    Non of money will ever be spent at a Harley dealership ever again

    • @grimstar8402
      @grimstar8402 Місяць тому

      I agree with you but just a heads up, your tax dollars pay for those folks surgeries, Obama included that in the ACA.

    • @MUCKFOOT666
      @MUCKFOOT666 Місяць тому

      don't you know that any production vehicle has to meet hundreds of standards and regulations.
      they are being forced to meet regulations in order to sell in USA

    • @kwakithailand
      @kwakithailand Місяць тому

      ​@@MUCKFOOT666are they *forced* to pay children's mutilations?

  • @kugangles9860
    @kugangles9860 Місяць тому +29

    HD use to be a working mans bike company. Now they pretty much sell $30k+ baggers to lawyers and dentists.

    • @MUCKFOOT666
      @MUCKFOOT666 Місяць тому

      @@kugangles9860 it has the best jobs USW, most veteran workers.

  • @johns2631
    @johns2631 Місяць тому +45

    Go Woke Go Broke.

  • @foxrod
    @foxrod Місяць тому +64

    I’m sure it has nothing to do with interest rates, cost of everything skyrocketing

    • @0hi0hdmc
      @0hi0hdmc  Місяць тому +4

      @@foxrod highest rates I have seen in my life!

    • @muddybranch1678
      @muddybranch1678 Місяць тому +6

      Those rates will put you in debt quick,just make sure you have a lawyer on retainer for when your ol lady sees the loan paperwork! Haha

    • @m.f.m.67
      @m.f.m.67 Місяць тому +6

      @@0hi0hdmc You must be pretty young to say that.

    • @0hi0hdmc
      @0hi0hdmc  Місяць тому

      @@m.f.m.67 I’m just shy of 40, still feel young though hahahah

    • @m.f.m.67
      @m.f.m.67 Місяць тому

      @@0hi0hdmc Google what interest rates were in the late 1970's and early 1980's. It will blow your mind. 7% will look like a bargan.

  • @RetNavyChiefBTC
    @RetNavyChiefBTC Місяць тому +34

    Nice 2024’s, priced too high, dealer experience is horrible. I’ve owned 5 new Harleys. I can afford anything they sell. I refuse to give them my money anymore. Trying to milk the last dollars out of a dying customer base. I’m done!

  • @5280Roadrunner
    @5280Roadrunner Місяць тому +14

    People got no money and HD is going woke. Perfect combination to slow sales.

  • @russellwood5867
    @russellwood5867 Місяць тому +39

    Could it be that harley has gone FULLY WOKE?. yep including supporting kid sex changes.

    • @stanleybroniszewsky8538
      @stanleybroniszewsky8538 Місяць тому +4

      If that's the case, and a large contributor to that, I really hope HD goes out of business PERMANENTLY.

    • @4life215
      @4life215 Місяць тому

      ​@@stanleybroniszewsky8538no they need that CEO to step down cuz he is purposely going to crash Harley with all that woke shit and wanting to go all electric he is not a true Harley ceo

  • @xdude2x
    @xdude2x Місяць тому +31

    It’s simple, too much money and not enough value, plus I haven’t been in a dealer that doesn’t make my skin crawl

    • @ScrotieMcBooger-z5h
      @ScrotieMcBooger-z5h 12 днів тому

      Well when they are shamelessly desperate to sucker in woman and noobie riders it’s kind of inevitable

  • @JohnDoe-bi4ho
    @JohnDoe-bi4ho Місяць тому +28

    And the prices for those bikes are crazy high

  • @BAtadCrazy
    @BAtadCrazy Місяць тому +39

    The prices, color offerings and a saturation of comments about poor service at so many dealerships doesn't help. I've visited our dealership and only one new model had the wow factor. The Fat Boy. They've literally destroyed the Road King and speculation is that model will be fazed out. Sad. Prices on the higher end models are insane. The majority of people willing to spend 30/40 grand wouldn't be spending it on a motorcycle or any other recreational vehicle. A pretty nice car with good gas mileage can be bought with that kind of money. There's a lot of low mileage bikes out there for no where near what a new one costs with upgrades already made. That's my two cents.

    • @user-ek6sb2bo3o
      @user-ek6sb2bo3o Місяць тому +4

      They're hiding the used bikes cause they have to sell the left over 23's and now they have to many 24's to sell. Just wait and the 24's will go on sale.almost half way through the riding season with that kind of inventory good luck.

    • @BD-co3yo
      @BD-co3yo Місяць тому

      @@user-ek6sb2bo3oexactly what I was thinking!

  • @jamesgullo8240
    @jamesgullo8240 Місяць тому +36

    Harley going woke wont help.

    • @MUCKFOOT666
      @MUCKFOOT666 Місяць тому

      they are forced to

    • @Tinfoilhat311
      @Tinfoilhat311 Місяць тому

      ​@MUCKFOOT⁶⁶⁶ No, they are not. There is no law requiring that b.s. The fact that Blackrock, Vanguard, and others are pushing this agenda. It's not happening at the company I work for.

  • @livinglife1167
    @livinglife1167 Місяць тому +30

    Harley Davidson has gone woke, now they going broke

    • @MUCKFOOT666
      @MUCKFOOT666 Місяць тому

      @@livinglife1167 they are forced to.

  • @jeffbennett6218
    @jeffbennett6218 Місяць тому +26

    High prices and woke agenda - 😑

  • @robertschoonover6517
    @robertschoonover6517 Місяць тому +9

    Harley Davison dealers are a big problem. Hate walking in there

  • @jameslinzee5415
    @jameslinzee5415 Місяць тому +19

    The prices. Out of reach, they're just above my paygrade. Just sticking with my 2016 Street Glide, no choice

    • @brianbayowski9265
      @brianbayowski9265 Місяць тому +2

      Your 2016 103 Street Glide looks and sounds better than anything Harley builds today anyway! Take care of it! 👍

  • @markman7
    @markman7 Місяць тому +6

    It's not just the bike price as the $2k dealer fees are outright insulting. Dealers want over double the cost of a full scheduled service just for "prep" on a brand-new motorcycle.

  • @wgdavidson9669
    @wgdavidson9669 Місяць тому +5

    New Road Glides went back to liquid-cooled heads and look like crap. They tried to copy Indian's bodywork.

    • @vinnyp9660
      @vinnyp9660 22 дні тому

      They're fxxxxng ugly too.

  • @HDR20
    @HDR20 Місяць тому +8

    The looks and quality on the 24 s turned me off the brand. I will not buy another new harley. I still love my harleys but I don't like the direction that went with the bikes and the company went woke

  • @geneclarke2205
    @geneclarke2205 Місяць тому +12

    Polaris stock dropped 11% after a profit miss on weak consumer sentiment. This was across their line of ATV's, boats, and motorcycles. Harley announced a new plan to repurchase $1 billion of its outstanding common stock through 2026 in an effort to boost its lagging stock price along with additional cost cutting to boost unit sales margins. Harley is in trouble and using accounting tricks to paper over the lack of demand but the real question is where will the company be in 5 years as the American style cruiser trend is winding down as riders age out. Additionally, Harley missed the ADV trend by not offering a 975 Pan America and an entry level 975 Bronx. This reflect a real problem for American management, they concentrate on sales margin vs. market share - declining sales but pushing increasing MSRP's. It works in the short term but its a disaster long term.

  • @StevenButt-kr7bd
    @StevenButt-kr7bd Місяць тому +7

    Wanted a Pan America…bought a Triumph 1200 Rally Pro with bags. Put the saved $8,000.00 to work buying gas and hotels rooms. It won’t automatically lower when stopping, but with the push of a button I can do it myself.

  • @1motomanic
    @1motomanic Місяць тому +10

    I wonder if HD sort of going the way of Bud Light has some riders walking away from the brand. I know for me they're just so overly priced anymore that I just buy slightly used with the add ons I like and save at least 10k over new.

  • @H-D-gl6gc
    @H-D-gl6gc Місяць тому +6

    All the customers are too old or dying. Not enough younger/new riders replacing them. H-D will survive but as a much smaller company.

  • @RafaelJimenez-hz9gu
    @RafaelJimenez-hz9gu Місяць тому +21

    I believe the issue is 3 things
    1- extremely high prices
    2-high interest rates
    3- simple plain platform bikes with just the minimal on them.
    Thank you

    • @petebusch9069
      @petebusch9069 Місяць тому +3

      Add WOKE and DEI to the list.

    • @MUCKFOOT666
      @MUCKFOOT666 Місяць тому

      that's the problem, you can't sell basic vehicles like that in the USA because of regulations.

  • @STATION26ADDISON
    @STATION26ADDISON Місяць тому +13

    So I'm here in Michigan and I'm going to tell you exactly what the problem is... I have a 2020 Fat Bob for sale and I had a guy that wanted to buy it he went to the bank and because the banks are considering motorcycles toys the interest rates are between 12 and a half percent to 15.5% so go figure you're looking at a 600 $700 freaking motorcycle payment... now I want you to add all the problems old sniffy Joe caused in the universe to deal with grocery bills and all the other bullshit and add that on top of it..... no one's got any fucking damn money... so then I was like wow I wonder if the guy just has bad credit...... I went to the bank where my credit score is an 815 and talk to one of the ladies that I know there and she told me they're closing on motorcycles at 12 and a half percent low end....... go freaking figure

    • @kwakithailand
      @kwakithailand Місяць тому +3

      Vote left
      Enjoy the consequences 🤷

    • @daoudmh1
      @daoudmh1 Місяць тому

      I also live in Michigan. Genisys credit union recreational loans are around 7.5%.

    • @STATION26ADDISON
      @STATION26ADDISON Місяць тому +1

      @@daoudmh1 yeah that's a good rate and that's still a lot of freaking money and you're still looking at a 6....$700 motorcycle payment

  • @philiporr7788
    @philiporr7788 Місяць тому +17

    Harley lost it when they binned the dynas

    • @0hi0hdmc
      @0hi0hdmc  Місяць тому +2

      @@philiporr7788 agreed

    • @bobberguy1
      @bobberguy1 Місяць тому +2

      When I can no longer get parts for my Dyna I'm done with HD completely.

    • @arkive9039
      @arkive9039 Місяць тому +3

      I’ve been looking at the Indian sport chief (Dyna clone), but $20k is just too much for a new bike. I don’t get how people are spending $30-40k for a Road Glide

    • @0hi0hdmc
      @0hi0hdmc  Місяць тому +2

      @arkive9039 I got my low rider s in 2021 for 17k and that was the most expensive bike I ever bought. I want a new street glide but in Ohio I need a car in the winter! So until I move somewhere warm I can’t justify a touring bike

    • @philiporr7788
      @philiporr7788 Місяць тому +1

      @arkive9039 ikr,bikes were sposed to be an affordable way for the working class to get around,but they have priced them so high that for most of us a new bike is out of the question

  • @brewswillis7294
    @brewswillis7294 Місяць тому +15

    I sold my 23 Road Glide, nothing but problems. It was in the shop more than my garage. POS! Bought a BMW GS. Happy now.

    • @WolfinWolvesClothing713
      @WolfinWolvesClothing713 Місяць тому +2

      2nd road glide. 6th harley no problems.

    • @brewswillis7294
      @brewswillis7294 Місяць тому +1

      @@WolfinWolvesClothing713 BS

    • @MUCKFOOT666
      @MUCKFOOT666 Місяць тому +2

      BMW is the gay man's bike

    • @brewswillis7294
      @brewswillis7294 Місяць тому

      @@MUCKFOOT666 Nah, I’m straight. I like big fat girls with no teeth. But I hear you have been taking it in the back door.

    • @JA-zh5xi
      @JA-zh5xi Місяць тому +3

      BMW has some of the worst quality of any bike. Nice move. Don’t forget your nice slacks and pink button up shorts before you leave the house.

  • @Bkamaclean
    @Bkamaclean Місяць тому +12

    Up here in Canada...$40,000 out the door for a Streetglide or similar model...the general population can't afford that kind of money for a toy...prices are getting out of reach for the middle class...it's a game for the rich nowadays...and the rich may not be in the market for this type of toy.

    • @guyherd6071
      @guyherd6071 Місяць тому +2

      Truth...can buy a brand new Toyota Tacoma truck for same price as a road glide....and can dive the truck year round...bought my last new harley in 2008..never again buying new again

    • @0hi0hdmc
      @0hi0hdmc  Місяць тому +2

      @guyherd6071 my wife’s 2020 Silverado trail boss lt cost almost 10k less than the cvo

  • @shermanc8768
    @shermanc8768 Місяць тому +5

    Woke focus, prices vs value, dealer experience…just to name a few. Need a non ESG driven CEO and a revamp of marketing, hr, and dealership management. Other than that all they need is an improved economy with lower inflation, higher wages, and new younger buyers.

  • @Karrpilot
    @Karrpilot Місяць тому +5

    The dealers by me won't deal. They have 2 year old unsold units that they are asking full list price on.
    They also slap on needless add on bling, and adjust the prices accordingly. Farther north.
    Then you look outside to the music venue on site. Who's paying for all of this? Take a good look into your mirror.
    One of the dealers by my work was bought out by corporate. Did they ever advertise a going out of business sale? Not a chance. The stock was redirected to the other dealers.
    Harley Davidson is now a clothing store that occasionally sells a motorcycle.

    • @0hi0hdmc
      @0hi0hdmc  Місяць тому +1

      @@Karrpilot same everywhere! I don’t want to pay 3500$ more for that stage one!

  • @forgedglory
    @forgedglory Місяць тому +4

    I just traded in 2 Harley’s for an Indian Challenger. A 2012 48 sportster and a 2015 street bob Dyna. I first went to Harley, they really didn’t have anything that I liked. I don’t like the look of the road glide. They got rid of my beloved sportsters and Dyna’s and I don’t like the look of their baggers and touring models.

  • @llano19fly
    @llano19fly Місяць тому +6

    No it has to do with management greed! They had a great bike w/FXR, Dyna/ Buell cross country bikes. I went to my local dealer to buy one & was told that they would not service them. They would not service the water cooled V-twin either. Harley has become nothing but a boutique!!!

  • @kindasupersonic7114
    @kindasupersonic7114 Місяць тому +3

    from what I've been reading:
    -Most Harley dealers use scummy practices
    -none of them honor the MSRP
    -tons of extra fees
    -Still too expensive
    -try to rake you over the coals with in house financing
    -They bend you over when its time to add mods
    -Too much Corporation, not enough local.

  • @mikeg9450
    @mikeg9450 Місяць тому +11

    Auto dealers are having trouble moving inventory also. People don't have confidence in the economy right now. It's cyclical.

  • @bobcorio5145
    @bobcorio5145 Місяць тому +2

    I was in my local Harley dealer last week and he had as many new 2023 bikes as new 2024 models. About 100 used bikes.

  • @trex860
    @trex860 Місяць тому +3

    Why does the CEO pay himself $38 million a year….? Why do they put garbage made-in-Mexico hydraulic lifters in their $30,000+ motorcycles?

  • @thecraportheoreos7834
    @thecraportheoreos7834 Місяць тому +2

    The 2024 bikes have nothing to do with it, the cost of living from day to day is wiping people out. The common man is TAPPED OUT…!!!

  • @stanleybroniszewsky8538
    @stanleybroniszewsky8538 Місяць тому +3

    I couldn't believe how many Harleys I saw on display. I totally loved that second bike, the Low Rider. But if this trend continues, a lot of dealers will be looking for new jobs as they're not making the commissions they should be.

  • @Prometheus1979
    @Prometheus1979 Місяць тому +11

    Harley is 💯 percent woke. Go do some research. I own a 23 Harley one my 4th one. I will not support a woke company anymore.

    • @bmwlane8834
      @bmwlane8834 Місяць тому +2

      Show me on the doll where they hurt you Mr. Triggered.

    • @Prometheus1979
      @Prometheus1979 Місяць тому

      Tell me you are a looney America hating leftist. Go see what they support. Going after kids is not ok with me clown nor is it ok for most bikers. Go ride your little bmw

    • @MUCKFOOT666
      @MUCKFOOT666 Місяць тому

      don't you understand that they are forced to?

  • @elmaestro6106
    @elmaestro6106 Місяць тому +5

    It’s the economy that’s hurting sales in every aspect. Plus the interest rates, costs of housing, food, etc.. I own a 2015 Road Glide and don’t plan on buying a new bike for at least 3-5 years hopefully!

  • @user-wg7dx7er8w
    @user-wg7dx7er8w Місяць тому +7

    Good morning 🌅, I did like the chocolate coffee colour fade affect, it reminds me of Fender guitars, I think personally the bikes have lost their soul, and the amount of money you have to budget nowadays for one, seems to be putting them out of reach of hard-working people,
    Plus, there is the issue of being able to work on them yourself , Unless you have got some serious money on being able to purchase tools and electronic equipment, That throws the issue of people wanting to wrench on their own bikes, I think you’re fine that people are going for older bikes, I personally I’ve just purchased a 2003 deuce, My second I might add, My previous one that I brought a brand-new in 2000 sadly I had to sell in 2019 because I had been scammed by my ex female partner, At least I’m back on the road again, ride safe ride free, France.

  • @ChrisVanMiddelkoop
    @ChrisVanMiddelkoop Місяць тому +5

    Well I want to know who can afford the new bikes.

  • @m.f.m.67
    @m.f.m.67 Місяць тому +4

    Holy Cow! When you first showed all those Road Glides lined up, I thought, "that must be a photo at the factory of bikes ready to ship." Then when you started walking down the row, I thought, "probably a mirrored wall just making it look like lots of bikes." But nope, you just kept walking. Man, if most other dealerships look like this one, inventory is out of control! 🤯

    • @0hi0hdmc
      @0hi0hdmc  Місяць тому +1

      @@m.f.m.67 that’s what I said! And to be honest all the corporate stores I been to in Ohio look like this. Only the couple small hold out dealers struggle to get bikes but that’s because they are pretty much on consignment from the dealer unless they are a big volume shop

  • @eb1941
    @eb1941 Місяць тому +12

    High prices and too much tech for me. HD needs a CEO who knows motorcycles, not toothpaste.

  • @marvelharris9540
    @marvelharris9540 Місяць тому +3

    Prices, finance rates, colors all suck... no one has any money right now.

  • @serdvd6
    @serdvd6 Місяць тому +3

    They won't deal on price, I was in there looking at a CVO Street Glide, I asked the salesperson "will you sell this at MSRP" his response was "No" I will not even buy an oil filter from them, too many good dealers a round, like Southeast and Hales just to name a couple

  • @aaronbrooks7106
    @aaronbrooks7106 Місяць тому +2

    That’s not a t sport fairing. That’s a fxrt fairing. The dyna is the t sport. Several dealers in my area have 2023 bikes still on the floor.

  • @erikmohr164
    @erikmohr164 Місяць тому +4

    I’d love the 24s, but I think they have some electronic bugs that need to be worked out. I agree the bike prices are kinda high and interest rates really suck! Have to wait till next year anyway.

  • @johnludmon510
    @johnludmon510 Місяць тому +3

    Sales are down across the board with motorcycles with virtually every brand has a drop in sales on the most expensive bikes. The problem for HD is that they mainly sell high end bikes and the buyers aren’t out there for them . The CVO range used to be sold before they arrived in the showroom now they sit in the showroom and there are dealerships having to discount them to get them shifted some still have 2023 models on the floor. I personally would love a 2024 streetglide but at this moment the price is beyond me and I dare say quite a lot of other people as well.

  • @timc7175
    @timc7175 Місяць тому +28

    Where’s the FJB edition ?

    • @Kevin-ne3tl
      @Kevin-ne3tl Місяць тому +1

      Probably the same spot the FDT versions are.

    • @JeffJohnson-1982
      @JeffJohnson-1982 29 днів тому +1

      I agree with you!!!!
      Twump is a crook and a total idiot!!!!​@@Kevin-ne3tl

  • @Elkslaya1
    @Elkslaya1 Місяць тому +6

    It will only get worse since HD has joined the woke movement. I certainly won’t buy another one……..

  • @Bikerbug2020
    @Bikerbug2020 Місяць тому +6

    Damn that looked like a Hallway of Motor bikes, but to be honest the bikes are popular it is just that at 8% - 9% interest it makes buying the newer bikes expensive. Harley will need to subsidize the interest rates down to 2.9-3.9-4.9 interest.

    • @0hi0hdmc
      @0hi0hdmc  Місяць тому

      @@Bikerbug2020 that’s what said if I got 1.9% I’d gladly use their money

  • @robr5786
    @robr5786 Місяць тому +5

    I would imagine the evo sportsters were huge sellers,the new Sportster S is terrible,they could of do done so much better looks wise

    • @MUCKFOOT666
      @MUCKFOOT666 Місяць тому

      @@robr5786 don't you understand that they are forced to. have to pass regulations, restrictions

  • @hinkski
    @hinkski Місяць тому +2

    10% to 15% interest makes it hard to swallow. Inflation rates of 18% on average on everything we buy makes that disposable income hard to come by. The average family spending more than $1000 a month now then they were just a few years ago. Wages are not keeping up with inflation. Is your take on this maybe clueless.

  • @deangelisstudio1
    @deangelisstudio1 Місяць тому +4

    High prices even though base models are slightly lower, high interest, slow economy, inflation, probably at an actual 35% more than what we spent 3 1/2 years ago ……… you do the math!!
    I’m sure Indian sales are also down
    For some people, it’s their main source of transportation for other people just a pleasure vehicle toy.
    Hopefully in six months to a year things will be different after the election

  • @jfk5230
    @jfk5230 Місяць тому +8

    Way above msrp....that's the reason

    • @0hi0hdmc
      @0hi0hdmc  Місяць тому +1

      Makes me sad! Msrp should not be the starting point, unless your negotiating down from that number

  • @highspeeddrag5551
    @highspeeddrag5551 Місяць тому +2

    After 17 years of owning HD touring bikes, I'm 69yrs old, a 2007 Road Glide and a 2019 RGUltra, they went pro dc sucker(woke) so I traded off for a 22 Kawasaki Conourse. Now I have a box of t-shirts :(. Loved my Harley's. I was a Life member of Hogs. but it's hard to support a company that supports a way of life that is in contrast to "The Wild Bunch" or Steve McQueen or "Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man." Clint Eastwood in "The Gauntlet"or "The Terminator" with Arnold Schwarzenegger. Men in "goose me" shorts drinking Bud Light, IDK. it seems it is a different image they want a projection( a transforming change) of American men.. Good luck Harley. Open your eyes and return to your base. Or not. Good video. thanks

  • @MrWolf2212
    @MrWolf2212 Місяць тому +3

    HD prices are too high. I really wanted to get a Breakout, but $26k OTD for a bike like that ??? I don't know man....

  • @georgekaiser2395
    @georgekaiser2395 Місяць тому +3

    The prices and how they go about selling motorcycles. It’s a joke

  • @nitromustangal
    @nitromustangal Місяць тому +3

    They would have sold a shit load of them if people had money and interest were lower like four years ago definitely but no thanks to the economy!!!

  • @KB-uu4fy
    @KB-uu4fy Місяць тому +2

    Stupid prices now. I have 5 Harley’s all are carburetted, so I can do my own work. I do not like how they have gone woke either. Will never buy another new one. I will stick to my oldies that I can fettle with at home.

  • @cweber9112
    @cweber9112 Місяць тому +2

    They are still trying to sell their 2023 models, which there are still quite a few of. It’s why you can get 0.99% APR on a 2023 and not a 2024.
    My local Harley dealer here in Ohio still has over 20 2023 models on the showroom floor. They just aren’t moving, which you could blame many factors on, but their overall price is probably the biggest factor IMO.

    • @0hi0hdmc
      @0hi0hdmc  Місяць тому +2

      Every dealer around me is running a 2023 clearance event

    • @cweber9112
      @cweber9112 Місяць тому +2

      @@0hi0hdmc it’s crazy. I would be a buyer of a new Harley if the prices were much lower. I want to get to Heritage. Seems to be a pretty good fit for the type of riding I do and still be able to have my wife on the back occasionally, but I cannot justify spending $23,000 to buy one. If it was closer to $16,000 I would own one today.

  • @muddybranch1678
    @muddybranch1678 Місяць тому +1

    Was a beautiful ride that day though,i definitely wasn't feeling that Harley shop,i still think southeast and rock and roll are the 2 best harley shops up that direction,thanks for the invite for the ride

  • @randyk636
    @randyk636 Місяць тому +2

    I love the new Road Glide fairing and I really hope they put it on a trike next model year.

    • @0hi0hdmc
      @0hi0hdmc  Місяць тому

      @@randyk636 I believe that’s coming soon. I was honestly surprised that they didn’t update the trikes this year. Honestly they sale a lot of trikes nowadays

  • @grgygantz6760
    @grgygantz6760 Місяць тому +2

    This doesn’t surprise me one bit. Dealers in Orlando going through the same thing. They have so many 2023s left over but they’re not budging that much on the price. The 24s are sitting there, basically because no one has any money and no one has any credit.in a few months the 2025 will be out.

  • @darthgrundle2349
    @darthgrundle2349 Місяць тому +2

    Aside from inflated prices and high intrest rates, the target audience for Harleys is aging out. Millennials and Gen X'ers don't have the same interest in motorcycles as previous generations did. Their more interested in the next new I Phone. Also Harleys ridiculously high prices also keeps most young buyers away, especially when their competitors build better and cheaper motorcycles which appeal to a much larger audience.

  • @JohnDoe-bi4ho
    @JohnDoe-bi4ho Місяць тому +5

    The cost of gas the cost of insurance the cost of rent the cost of mortgage the cost of car payments. The cost of food. The cost of everything has skyrocketed. Could that be a big factor?

    • @0hi0hdmc
      @0hi0hdmc  Місяць тому

      @@JohnDoe-bi4ho yes sir!

  • @hbikerbob7210
    @hbikerbob7210 Місяць тому +3

    I took a test ride on a street glide 117 cvo at ohio bike week. Great running bike, electronics way to complicated. Price way to high

  • @maxxbenzz7842
    @maxxbenzz7842 Місяць тому +4

    These bikes are now entering corvette territory. You have to be upper upper class to afford these. Sad

  • @Ridingon3TN
    @Ridingon3TN Місяць тому +6

    well not surprised honestly with so many content creators coming out with all their issues they've been having with the new 24s..I know the trikes this year really didn't much as well to no surprise being over the last 4 years been kinda watching HD closely to what and how they've been handling the trike market myself and its not been all that great to me at all more like nearly non existent compared to everything else. but prices, bugs, and the real lack of getting a complete bike (not having to buy aftermarket parts for something that should be factory). I feel is what's hurting them as well.

    • @0hi0hdmc
      @0hi0hdmc  Місяць тому +3

      @@Ridingon3TN never buy first year of anything!

    • @Ridingon3TN
      @Ridingon3TN Місяць тому +1

      @@0hi0hdmc yep my grandfather and dad both told me that growing up doesn't matter what it is but especially vehicles.

    • @GuiltySiNz
      @GuiltySiNz Місяць тому +1

      every year model big change have issues lol, has the evo twin cams and M8 haha

  • @socalgolf9978
    @socalgolf9978 Місяць тому +4

    Holy shit that’s a lot of new bikes

  • @Xlac
    @Xlac Місяць тому +3

    Harley Davidson has to unburden what has been….

    • @0hi0hdmc
      @0hi0hdmc  Місяць тому

      @@Xlac hahahahahaha damn that’s funny!

  • @bmwlane8834
    @bmwlane8834 Місяць тому +1

    Every small business owner have spent all their covid ppp money!

  • @billreynolds2221
    @billreynolds2221 Місяць тому +6

    Harley is just a reflection of the current economy. People simply have less room in their budgets or have less disposable income. I've noticed this phenomenon in virtually all retail environments. People a looking and not buying. People have been slowly experiencing the effects of our poorly run economy. Credit cards are maxed out and bank accounts are empty.

  • @jasen752
    @jasen752 Місяць тому +3

    Could it be that they went so WOKE?

  • @user-zj5ml3yq7k
    @user-zj5ml3yq7k Місяць тому +2

    it’s the economy !!!

  • @SouthernBoyzRyde
    @SouthernBoyzRyde 26 днів тому +1

    A few reasons overstocked on inventory, cost of the bikes, younger people are riding sports bikes still, some older people are hanging onto there Gold wing’s, other people are content with the Harley they have now, others like me are digging there metric cruiser’s and keeping money in our pockets, and but not least an over expectation of sales, I’m still not in love with the look of the fairing on either bike street glide or road glide

  • @Goldwing1
    @Goldwing1 Місяць тому +2

    Can’t buy it with ruined credit scores might as well boycott them

    • @0hi0hdmc
      @0hi0hdmc  Місяць тому +1

      @@Goldwing1 🤣😂⚡️🤷‍♂️

    • @WolfinWolvesClothing713
      @WolfinWolvesClothing713 Місяць тому +1

      Your credit score is absolutely Your own fault. If you're going to boycott them do it because they've gone woke and oppose all the laws etc.. that would ban child sex changes, etc... they're entire management is disgusting.

  • @paulblackfield473
    @paulblackfield473 21 день тому +1

    Did they "miss the mark"? The absence of customers in the showroom shows Harley don't even know where the mark is. Dull bikes don't sell, the downhill slide will continue until they understand why other manufacturers are selling bikes as fast as they can make them.

    • @0hi0hdmc
      @0hi0hdmc  21 день тому

      Yes sir, that was on a Sunday also when all other dealers in the area are closed. Thought the same thing

  • @stuartbrown1961
    @stuartbrown1961 Місяць тому +3

    If I wanted an Indian I'd buy an Indian. The creased body lines, the tank, the digital gauges, and the half ass liquid cooling lost me. I do like the new bags and the 121 VVT. HD should have kept a little bit more tradition alive. I will keep my 2023 Road Glide ST.

  • @gorion70
    @gorion70 Місяць тому +1

    The good news is there are deals to be had. Just picked up a 23 Breakout in may for less than msrp out the door.

  • @rdbjr52
    @rdbjr52 Місяць тому

    The used market has tanked in my area also. High interest rates coupled with limited disposable income is producing severe headwinds. A large portion of the buying public are applying their limited funds elsewhere.
    The day of reckoning is coming soon for automakers. You can’t keep production lines full, when an average truck price is somewhere north of $55,000.

  • @jefferybeining-oy2eu
    @jefferybeining-oy2eu Місяць тому +3

    Harley will be done in five years

  • @harryhowell5644
    @harryhowell5644 Місяць тому +2

    Not just Harley. Try ford, dodge, indian, etc. economy is bad for sales.

  • @wa4sw827
    @wa4sw827 Місяць тому +3

    My local dealer just sells Road Glides. All black no chrome.
    It is sad...

    • @0hi0hdmc
      @0hi0hdmc  Місяць тому

      @@wa4sw827 I like the chrome on the 2024! I would buy a blue and chrome one if I had an extra 30k

  • @mr.mb2431
    @mr.mb2431 Місяць тому +6

    Uhhh… most people don’t have cash and if you get a loan, your APR is starting at 6.9% up to 10% and that’s with excellent credit

    • @0hi0hdmc
      @0hi0hdmc  Місяць тому +1

      @@mr.mb2431 10% is kinda low apr around here. Last year I was working at the dealership and seen interest rates hit 15-18%

  • @davidmatias6239
    @davidmatias6239 Місяць тому +1

    I must admit that Tabasco fade ST is badass

    • @0hi0hdmc
      @0hi0hdmc  Місяць тому

      It is a cool factory color

  • @grumman38
    @grumman38 5 днів тому

    If I was CEO of HD I would scale the company down and go back to the smaller dealers that were locally owned. The benchmark for dealers would be a service department that was first class. I would write off the electric bike and take the losses. Looking forward I see a small, niche company if they are to even survive.
    The fifteen year plan looks tough, when you add technology to the Harley it morphs into something else. I personally thing the brand has been damaged in several different ways. It’s very hard to un ring a bell.

  • @user-yr8mh3nx3g
    @user-yr8mh3nx3g Місяць тому +1

    Worked sales few mths ago, 30k for sg or rg, cvo 45-50k, payments were 650-750 avg, won't take cash offers, want 6500-10k down also

    • @0hi0hdmc
      @0hi0hdmc  Місяць тому

      @@user-yr8mh3nx3g truth! They don’t like cash deals they want that financing so they can get even more

    • @0hi0hdmc
      @0hi0hdmc  Місяць тому +1

      @@user-yr8mh3nx3g my wife’s truck is 650$ a month, when I seen dudes paying 800$ for a bike in Ohio I was speechless

  • @MrBrownke
    @MrBrownke Місяць тому

    I purchased the 2024 street glide and besides the updates for the OS system I love the bike.

  • @erikmohr164
    @erikmohr164 Місяць тому +1

    Update! Just got a call from my local HD dealer. Have a deal in the works, but it hinges on the financing. Negotiations are a lot easier when you have top tier credit and a good job!

    • @kwakithailand
      @kwakithailand Місяць тому

      Negotiations are the easiest when the cash is in buyer's pocket, just saying...

  • @socalgolf9978
    @socalgolf9978 Місяць тому +2

    I’m wonder how much volume that dealer moves to carry that many bikes

  • @Leonard-kd7uj
    @Leonard-kd7uj Місяць тому +1

    Hi from Uk seeing the same here in most dealers not just harley just a thought if they are not moveing bikes specials might not have changed that been in three dealers today not one customer in any of them cant see it changing any time soon over here most bikes are hobbys not too many people have 20 to 30k disposable cash lying around great vid ride free

  • @FXFBS540
    @FXFBS540 Місяць тому +1

    I really hope they work out the kinks on rev-max bikes. Those are the only bikes I see at the dealership these days that sparks my interest and makes me want to add a 3rd HD to the garage.

    • @0hi0hdmc
      @0hi0hdmc  Місяць тому

      I heard the 2023-24 models have way less issues

  • @scottanderson4175
    @scottanderson4175 27 днів тому

    In 2003 my Electra Glide was as totaled and I was going through a divorce and my credit score was down but I had $11,000 down payment from my totaled bike 🫤 Harley Davidson told me that they didn’t want my business the were only interested in rich people that could buy every option and accessory and clothing so I took my $11,000 down payment to BMW who told me that not only did they want my business I didn’t need a down payment at all 😳 I’m on my seventh brand new BMW motorcycle and will never ever consider a Harley again lol

  • @bluzzjazz
    @bluzzjazz Місяць тому

    I went with Indian and not looking back. Always loved the Road King and thought I’d buy one. I road a Springfield and that was it. It’s a much better riding and handling bike. With the current HD news headlines, there is NO WAY I will ever buy a HD.

  • @Rpm68
    @Rpm68 Місяць тому

    In case you haven't noticed, inflation is out of control, many cannot afford food and rent, so every company is having low sales, zoom out a little bit here and notice the bigger picture,🙄

  • @stevebeard7667
    @stevebeard7667 Місяць тому +1

    The colors are ugly. The prices are too high. A used one is a much better financial option.

  • @roadkang-cartwright7390
    @roadkang-cartwright7390 Місяць тому +1

    There is not enough aftermarket products to make the bike yours. No lowers options( that’s a big one) the music is extremely limited for aftermarket upgrades, engine upgrades suck, and too many electronic glitches. Harley Davidson needs to stop trying to be HD exclusive and build their platform towards the aftermarket companies,instead if trying to be exclusive and have generic products which everyone will have and look the same, just my 2 cents😁

  • @timnevitt2993
    @timnevitt2993 Місяць тому +2

    mabe they should not taken android auto away from us