It sounds insane, maybe won’t ever be done, but I do think it would be a good option. It defends against the water rising issue, gives new land for businesses, housing and parks, and extends the subway.
it will not be done. there is no a serious proposal and no politician is pushing for this. it is just some random dude who came up with this. It took 10 years to build 4 new subway stations. This is less likely to be built than the stupid Line being built in Saudi Arabia.
@@the0ne809 You're missing a few key details. 1 This is very possible it has been done in Dubai and other places with great success. 2 A random dude made a video about this idea people have been talking about it since the 1800s it was just never feasible. 3. you can never compare this to public transit because they don't benefit the same people. The wealthy powerful people that would benefit from added real estate neither ride public transit or profit from it so the only time they need to care is when the public gets mad enough they make a fuss about it.
@@ethangray7083 What on God's green earth are you babbling about dude. People need to commute to work. The city would never seriously consider adding such an obnoxiously stupid extension to Lower Manhattan without considering how it connects with the existing transit system (the Subway, bus system, PATH, etc.) No real estate will ever be worth shit if you cannot commute to work from it, or in the case of it being zoned for offices if you cannot commute there. To deny this is extraordinarily illogical. Unless it's literally Billionaire's Row style supertower penthouses on every floor for 40 million a pop that we all know no one is buying because of half of those buildings are empty and the ones that have been bought are just used by investments in the New York City luxury housing bubble...
@@c.e.7737agreed. The other thing worth noting is where the hell is the money going to come from to fund it? NYC is already extremely in debt. I guess more debt
@@independenceradio prepare for your local bodega owner to get taxed 80% while the dipshits at the top of the FiDi officebuildings avoid taxes by buying ugly ass paintings for millions and then donating them to art galleries for a tax write off
I like in New Orleans. New Yorkers need to realize how lucky they are to get this much investing and thought put into saving the city instead of protesting every little thing. I would be fine with loud noise if it meant out city didn't get plunged underwater every hurricane.
It would be significantly more cost effective to build more public transit both in New York and across America that way people could comfortably live far away from the city and this reducing over crowding.
I want you to go on google maps, click on a train station on Long Island, and look at the current train lines. Then I want you to look at the buildings around the train station. You'll notice that public transit is not the issue. The issue is the lack of density in the suburbs and the lack of density around the train stations.
New York already has the best public transport in the country Not that other countries have better stuff, they do, but the public transport in the NY metropolitan area is already pretty extensive so I think this is a nil point
I remember when they said NYC would be underwater by 1999. Sea levels have been rising since the end of the last ice age, about 11,000 years ago, and that will continue until the inevitable start of the next ice age.
Let' talk about why Sandy was as devastating as it was. It was cruising up the coast as it was basically by-passing major areas, a blizzard out in Harrisburg PA moving east towards Philadelphia, with it's colder air caused it to pull Sandy and it's warm air into the NYC area like a vacuum, hence the storm surge flooding everything. At the time I lived in NJ on Raritan Bay just 1 mile away from Staten Island, we got hammered but good by the worst hurricane i lived thru. I lived in Florida, outside Miami where we got hit by Betsy, she went north turned at Maryland and came back south and hit us again.. It still wasn't as bad as Sandy.
No job to BIG or SMALL.... Remember going to the New York World's Fair in 1964 & '65... 643 acres were transformed.. A family of 9 in a Dodge station wagon from the sticks in the northern N. J. suburbs. .. Fond memories. ..
It's important to keep in mind how wetlands are one of many important things that keep sea levels regulated on the land. And how it can help with controlling floods.
I wish land was worth $85,000 an acre. The average cost is around 43 million for an acre. The price commonly quoted is $1000 a square foot for Manhattan
1 acre of land is $85,000, mentions Hudson River and shows crossing the East River, Suburban integration is far more likely within NY suburbs than in another state for a variety of jurisdictional issues. Just three major logical gaps in this video. I think more robust fact checking is a good next investment!
You neglected to mention air bnb, which has converted many apartments into hotel rooms, further reducing the number of apartments on the market. Is it possible to put a moratorium on building more luxury apartments, i.e. "unaffordable housing"? We've built more than enough of them for now.
It's sad that NY's 3% rental vacancy rate sounds good compared to Sydney's 1.1%. In all seriousness, what would probably happen is they'll "revitalise" or in other word's gentrify more neighbourhoods to make room for newcomers.
What an absurd idea. A better idea is to reclaim wetlands, improve transit, and build more high density, affordable housing in parts of Brooklyn beyond downtown BK and in Queens beyond LIC.
4:35 that might sound like a lot, but it's nothing compared to Stockholm Sweden, where the median income is 44k Swedish Krona/ month (of which you get to keep 22k after taxes) while the median cost of rent for a 1 bedroom apartment (i.e. a studio apartment, typically around 30 square meters, or 320 square feet) costs 15k a month. In other words, you would if you have the median wage (which takes into account everyone from 18 to retirement age) you'd have to spend a whopping 60% of you net income on housing alone, leaving you 7k (roughly 650 dollars) to live on (food, gas or public transport) each month. Oh, and the average waiting tome to even be able to rent an apartment is around 10-20 years. What about buying your own place? Well, there's a 15% minimum down-payment. Not that much, you may think. However, in Sweden you don't lock the rent on your mortgage, meaning your housing costs could skyrocket ay any given moment. And also, the avergage cost of a studio apartment in inner city Stockholm is around 3,000,000 Swedish Krona (roughly 290k USD). For a tiny studio apartment. That's rouhgly 5 years salary before taxes (and rougly 8 years salary after taxes).
Imagine believing that NY would have hundreds of billions of dollars to spend on a project this massive. Imagine thinking that some US project this big could be completed in 6 years. If you believe any of this, I have a bridge over Hudson to sell you for cheap.
The city has a larger and wealtheir tax bases than many nations that regularly complete projects like this only larger within that time frame. When did we stop believing we can do things?
@TheLiamster it doesnt have to. China dn the Netherlands do similar projects at significantly larger scales for the low billions. New York has the tax base for it too. It just takes the political will to cut the red tape and root out the corruption that inflates the cost
First, NYC is not just Manhattan. This piece is too narrowly focused. Brooklyn, Bronx, Queens, SI are NYC so focusing on just Manhattan skews the overall picture. Also NYC is not alone. There are NJ, LI and Westchester. (Add CT to a lesser degree). “Building affordable housing” Interesting. First, define affordable. Even one chooses to attempt this, the cost of housing involves many factors..a free market? Rates are really determined by what people are willing to pay not able to pay. Really, there’s no economic reasoning that says everyone has to live in Manhattan. Something Ed Koch noted. Second, Who is going to build this? And why? Finally, I am skeptical. The storm impact mitigation stuff is being used here to promote the land expansion idea. Sounds like some folks have figured a way to push a big idea using a smaller idea…and scare tactics.
@15:59 1 acre of Manhattan is not 84k. 1.6 to 5 million seems to be the going rate, but I genuinely think 84 millions sounds more reasonable for Manhattan, then creating 150 billion in land value, for that 1.5 billion in tax revenue.
The population of NYC is not growing, demand for real estate is growing. There is a demographic shift taking place in NYC. The poor/working class are being forced out while the wealth people are moving in. The wealthy demand more space so even as the population drops, demand for larger apartments goes up.
So, a city as big and important as NYC that sits on an island or peninsula, doesn't have any levees? This is crazy to me! The fact that they haven't been built something to protect this city is beyond me!
The rent control laws in NYC are so absurd that many landlords have a large number of apartments off the market, unoccupied and in dire need of renovation to put them back in service!
What do you mean " it doesn't hurt to look at?", that would be part of a study costing $$$., There is no way access from the East to the Hudson Rivers are getting cut off between Battery Park and Governor's Island, by a landfill project, In reality you're just building more land to get flooded by possible major storms in the future. Where is the common sense?
15:55 Way Wrong " an acre of NYC land is $85,000" correction an acre cost $5 million in Manhattan... A two-car garage in NYC exceeds $85k, yet alone an acre.🤷🏿♂️
California and Louisiana: "Oh! Um, ok. And have you ever done this before? Have you ever had to deal with natural disasters which might, for example, cause a significant rise in water levels or suddenly de-compact what was originally bedrock soil? Because you might want to look into that."
In 1967 Montreal hosting the World Fair built two large islands on which over 100 pavilions were erected. So it can be done. It does cost, but it proved that with the proper planning it can be done
Narrowing the already fast moving East River and Hudson River should do wonders for rising water levels, not to mention speed of the currents further eroding riverbeds and shorelines... Good plan👌🏻
There’s no way an acre of land in Manhattan is only $85k. Has to be worth several million per acre, making the new reclaimed land worth billions, which makes more sense. The numbers you quoted are a couple orders of magnitude lower than anything believable.
I worked on a pier during hurricane sandy and I have to say shit was destroyed the very next day, the job I was working don’t even b busy in October but after the hurricane we were so busy and had no product to sell bc it was all destroyed crazy part was all the tourist came the next day bc they wanted to see how bad it was first hand
New York can always be replaced as the financial center. There has to be a point where spending to keep it from eventually returning to the sea must end. A breakeven point where spending to keep it dry exceed costs of just up and moving to dry places, like upstate or Connecticut, for example.
Well, then the battery park history will be rewritten- how do ones protect the island while it was way back there ? Kinda weird. Would hardly go through with all of this expansion
If you put a patch over the old wounds it’s not going to heal. The source has to be resolved first! Construct a surge barrier so expansions are possible and sea water is controlled.
Why don't they pump that money into widening the FDR from beginning to end & other roadways to improve traffic flow & help the congestion pricing issue?
Because people don’t live or work on the roadway. There’s only so much space for cars in manhattan. Speed is rarely an issue on the drive. It’s getting off the drive that’s the “problem”. Congestion pricing would just make it easier for wealthy people to travel in the city. Not to mention how Prices in the city have far outpaced increases in wages. There was a time when you could actually afford to live there, say 30 yo. Now, even 200k a year is rock bottom to live somewhat ok.
@@IcelanderUSer The reason why speed is not an issue is, it (the FDR) is always congested, esp. at the bottle neck point at to the entrance of the Bklyn. bridge. They have never upgraded this road project. They will build a Dam, fund more wars, before they invest money in that roadway project!
widening roads does. not. work. You want to encourage NOT using the car to lower traffic, instead of widening roads, cause if you build it, they will come
@@AnymMusic I think nothing you do will solve the problem completely as people have & want the right to drive. Can't imagine everyone taking a bus or subway to get about. The FDR still need fixing as anybody that rides it daily will know
I would ask of this project? Is that if there is a provision in this idea of a new land mass for NYC Manhattan… A future safeguard against a high water surge during, earthquakes, unusual weather patterns, major Tropical storms,Hurricanes and yearly rise in water levels?
If you dump that much soil and rock into the harbor won’t the soil and rock displace the water and rise the sea levels? If I throw rocks into a tub of water the water level will rise.
Waste and not worth it. Plenty of boroughs (The Bronx , Queens, Brooklyn and Staten Island) to replace old buildings with new tall buildings. I can see that and save a lot of money 💰.
Because they’re all owned by investor who want to sell all their real estate when house prices fo up and earn a huge profit - they don’t live in all of them at once! 👍
Why extend lower Manhattan island with wetlands just to add more housing? Why not extend the island with wetlands to add more flood plains to the island?
I would recommend short 30 to 60 years leases to allow for renewal and adaptation in the city. No use adding more land if you do not have the power to renew and space to resolve problems of the day. Maybe in the future one might be short of spaces for commercial, you might add, or if you're short of a peculiar space you need in the city, well New York would have space.
That is the dumbest idea on the planet! Whatever small island extension you build will quickly be too crowded. The problem is Housing as an Investment Asset. Stop allowing the rich to buy up and develop housing that is beyond the reach of people who work 40-50 hours a week in all types of jobs. Stop Housing as Investment and there will be no problem. America has KEYBOARD money. Right now the top 1% are accessing the Keyboard Money for damn near free and they use that interest free, rollover money to impoverish All The Rest.
I mean it's both. Yes obviously rich folk using it as investment assets and leaving them empty (or overcharge on rent) is a problem, however space would still become an quick issue with how generally wanted NYC is to many. Like you make it more affordable, more people will move in again, space gets smaller quickly, still need to extend it out
It's not so much that the sea levels are rising, as it is a fact that the eastern end of North America is slowly sinking into the Atlantic Ocean. After the last ice age (18,000 years ago approximately), once the glaciers over north-central North America began to retreat, the center of the continent has been slowly rising up, causing the Atlantic coast line to descend. Even if humans were to stop global warming in the near future, the Atlantic coast will still be sinking for the next several centuries.
Make most of all buildings apartments with 6-50 floors, the traffic in downtown is so bad,even in Beijing, basically only the 4 inner ring roads have bad traffic.
This video gets to many things wrong First off nyc people are moving to nj not the rest of the state especially upstate Second they are not growing they are shrinking and projected to continue Third they have a even bigger problem with there zoning and crime and fixing those to will do much better then wast money on expanding the city. Like maybe instead of expanding it they should update the zoning and start expanding on the upper half of nyc like rock land and west Chester
@@manonthemoogStaten islanders are mostly just Brooklyn people that moved there , most Brooklyn’s move to Staten Island when they want to start a family or want a slower pace of life , he’s right doe as a Staten islander we got a lot of space and it’s not as bad a people make it same, south shore are trumpies but north shore pretty chill
If the expansion is at the same level as the rest of Manhatten then the problems of sea level rise and storm surges will not be solved. The expansion must be built at a higher elevation on a platform on pillars but that could be an eyesore and the public may not accept it.
It would probably never happen, but what if New York unpaved most of it's streets and turned them into tree lined pedestrian/cyclist only (with exceptions for supply vehicles)? Might help a bit with flooding. Also shocked to hear there is only one transit connection between NY and NJ.
There are more the video is wrong: 1- Holland Tunnel 2- Lincoln Tunnel 3- George Washington Bridge 4- Ferry rides across the hudson from weehawkin NJ to midtown manhattan. But yes another bridge or tunnel would be nice.
this is one of the dumbest proposals I've seen. Luckily NYC planning is basically non existent and it's a city that prides itself on it's worst attributes so they'd never want to do anything too ambitious.
I believe that part is gonna be even more expensive everywhere new they build is more money exactly look at lower manhattan who tf is gonna be able to afford to live out there
How about we upzone all of Brooklyn queens Manhattan Staten Island and Bronx and build high rises where ever there are parking lots, parking garages and highways, especially highways, highways separate neighborhoods and create pollution, so we should get rid of them and put in housing. Then idea of removing parking lots and parking garages might upset some, but this nyc, 55 percent of residents take public transit, so majority of people won’t be affected by the loss of parking, plus there is still street parking. Also nyc is a super dense city and there is just not enough space for everyone to park and drive a car. Oh and let’s fill in industrial areas with housing and when ever a house or apartment gets too old and collapses, we should then create a new high rise or skyscraper apartment in its place. Oh and there’s a lot of unused land in Staten Island, so let’s build tons more apartments in Staten Island. Staten Island could easily have 2.5 million people if it had the population density of Brooklyn
@@Odm1776Conservatives don't care about facts, that's why they cling to their failing ideology. Cities in their states are far more dangerous but no one talks about that
"Once you go Dutch, water ain't much"
Water always goes somewhere else.
@@r.d.9399 yea but when the oosterscheldekering says no, the north sea has to take a hike.
It’s always too much
The Dutch are the best in the world when it comes to land reclamation
G E K O L O N I S E E R D
It sounds insane, maybe won’t ever be done, but I do think it would be a good option. It defends against the water rising issue, gives new land for businesses, housing and parks, and extends the subway.
it will not be done. there is no a serious proposal and no politician is pushing for this. it is just some random dude who came up with this. It took 10 years to build 4 new subway stations. This is less likely to be built than the stupid Line being built in Saudi Arabia.
@@the0ne809 You're missing a few key details. 1 This is very possible it has been done in Dubai and other places with great success. 2 A random dude made a video about this idea people have been talking about it since the 1800s it was just never feasible. 3. you can never compare this to public transit because they don't benefit the same people. The wealthy powerful people that would benefit from added real estate neither ride public transit or profit from it so the only time they need to care is when the public gets mad enough they make a fuss about it.
@@ethangray7083 What on God's green earth are you babbling about dude. People need to commute to work. The city would never seriously consider adding such an obnoxiously stupid extension to Lower Manhattan without considering how it connects with the existing transit system (the Subway, bus system, PATH, etc.)
No real estate will ever be worth shit if you cannot commute to work from it, or in the case of it being zoned for offices if you cannot commute there. To deny this is extraordinarily illogical. Unless it's literally Billionaire's Row style supertower penthouses on every floor for 40 million a pop that we all know no one is buying because of half of those buildings are empty and the ones that have been bought are just used by investments in the New York City luxury housing bubble...
@@c.e.7737agreed. The other thing worth noting is where the hell is the money going to come from to fund it? NYC is already extremely in debt. I guess more debt
@@independenceradio prepare for your local bodega owner to get taxed 80% while the dipshits at the top of the FiDi officebuildings avoid taxes by buying ugly ass paintings for millions and then donating them to art galleries for a tax write off
I like in New Orleans. New Yorkers need to realize how lucky they are to get this much investing and thought put into saving the city instead of protesting every little thing. I would be fine with loud noise if it meant out city didn't get plunged underwater every hurricane.
😂😂😂 investment into what
@damien7157 Okay...
How is that relevant?
Is it “land reclamation” if the land wasn’t previously there? If anything, it would be “land creation”.
just use galvanized steel
and eco-friendly wood veneer
They arnt as smart as David to do that
And screws I borrowed form my aunt
little john spent his life savings to become mayor of new york city, but is shocked to find that it is only 220 million square meter
Brainrot
So it’s rich people ruining NYC housing
it's always been
Just like in London, a lot of the highest $ housing is just money laundering for the oligarchs. 🫴
@@trvst5938they’re already paying for it. Muslims, Indians, etc are taking over London 😹
Nah it’s mostly zoning
Just like they're ruining everything else on the planet.
It would be significantly more cost effective to build more public transit both in New York and across America that way people could comfortably live far away from the city and this reducing over crowding.
I want you to go on google maps, click on a train station on Long Island, and look at the current train lines. Then I want you to look at the buildings around the train station. You'll notice that public transit is not the issue. The issue is the lack of density in the suburbs and the lack of density around the train stations.
New York already has the best public transport in the country
Not that other countries have better stuff, they do, but the public transport in the NY metropolitan area is already pretty extensive so I think this is a nil point
@@spearmintlatios9047 No it's still a valid point because even though NYC has a lot of transit it's still not enough in some cases.
That would triple the amount of government money thrown into corrupt rail operations
The outer boroughs ain't overcrowded. Build a subway to Staten Island and they'll develop the heck out of it
I remember when they said NYC would be underwater by 1999. Sea levels have been rising since the end of the last ice age, about 11,000 years ago, and that will continue until the inevitable start of the next ice age.
The highest natural point in manhattan is two hundred sixty eight feet above sea level.
Let' talk about why Sandy was as devastating as it was. It was cruising up the coast as it was basically by-passing major areas, a blizzard out in Harrisburg PA moving east towards Philadelphia, with it's colder air caused it to pull Sandy and it's warm air into the NYC area like a vacuum, hence the storm surge flooding everything. At the time I lived in NJ on Raritan Bay just 1 mile away from Staten Island, we got hammered but good by the worst hurricane i lived thru. I lived in Florida, outside Miami where we got hit by Betsy, she went north turned at Maryland and came back south and hit us again.. It still wasn't as bad as Sandy.
So the ending of The Batman movie was not fiction, it was a prediction!
We safe up here in West Harlem, nice and high from the waters :P
The Community: "We need more housing and public spaces"... NYC: "Ok, let's build casinos"
Accurate
Las Vegas
No job to BIG or SMALL.... Remember going to the New York World's Fair in 1964 & '65... 643 acres were transformed..
A family of 9 in a Dodge station wagon from the sticks in the northern N. J. suburbs. .. Fond memories. ..
It's important to keep in mind how wetlands are one of many important things that keep sea levels regulated on the land. And how it can help with controlling floods.
this will never happen. this was some dude who came up with this. this is not a serious proposal.
I wish land was worth $85,000 an acre. The average cost is around 43 million for an acre. The price commonly quoted is $1000 a square foot for Manhattan
That's a modest estimate, quite mind boggleing to me, the cost would be $43,560,000 without taxes added.
yeah i was like where tf did he get that number, did he ask chatgpt lol
@@oceanbearmountain probably.
That figure sounded way off.
1 acre of land is $85,000, mentions Hudson River and shows crossing the East River, Suburban integration is far more likely within NY suburbs than in another state for a variety of jurisdictional issues.
Just three major logical gaps in this video. I think more robust fact checking is a good next investment!
You neglected to mention air bnb, which has converted many apartments into hotel rooms, further reducing the number of apartments on the market.
Is it possible to put a moratorium on building more luxury apartments, i.e. "unaffordable housing"? We've built more than enough of them for now.
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It's sad that NY's 3% rental vacancy rate sounds good compared to Sydney's 1.1%. In all seriousness, what would probably happen is they'll "revitalise" or in other word's gentrify more neighbourhoods to make room for newcomers.
Stop allowing corporations and foreigners from buying real estate. That would solve the problem
4:29 Why does that boat appear before the rest of the background?
Eagle eye! Nice
What an absurd idea.
A better idea is to reclaim wetlands, improve transit, and build more high density, affordable housing in parts of Brooklyn beyond downtown BK and in Queens beyond LIC.
4:35 that might sound like a lot, but it's nothing compared to Stockholm Sweden, where the median income is 44k Swedish Krona/ month (of which you get to keep 22k after taxes) while the median cost of rent for a 1 bedroom apartment (i.e. a studio apartment, typically around 30 square meters, or 320 square feet) costs 15k a month. In other words, you would if you have the median wage (which takes into account everyone from 18 to retirement age) you'd have to spend a whopping 60% of you net income on housing alone, leaving you 7k (roughly 650 dollars) to live on (food, gas or public transport) each month. Oh, and the average waiting tome to even be able to rent an apartment is around 10-20 years. What about buying your own place? Well, there's a 15% minimum down-payment. Not that much, you may think. However, in Sweden you don't lock the rent on your mortgage, meaning your housing costs could skyrocket ay any given moment. And also, the avergage cost of a studio apartment in inner city Stockholm is around 3,000,000 Swedish Krona (roughly 290k USD). For a tiny studio apartment. That's rouhgly 5 years salary before taxes (and rougly 8 years salary after taxes).
Imagine believing that NY would have hundreds of billions of dollars to spend on a project this massive. Imagine thinking that some US project this big could be completed in 6 years. If you believe any of this, I have a bridge over Hudson to sell you for cheap.
The city has a larger and wealtheir tax bases than many nations that regularly complete projects like this only larger within that time frame. When did we stop believing we can do things?
@@guywithinterwebs here here
This would easily cost a trillion dollars and take over 50 years to build
@TheLiamster it doesnt have to. China dn the Netherlands do similar projects at significantly larger scales for the low billions. New York has the tax base for it too. It just takes the political will to cut the red tape and root out the corruption that inflates the cost
@@guywithinterwebsthat's it. Same reason why we don't have high speed rail, cause it'll be way to "expensive".
Alright, I'm 10 seconds in and you're already lying. Sea levels aren't rising!
First, NYC is not just Manhattan. This piece is too narrowly focused. Brooklyn, Bronx, Queens, SI are NYC so focusing on just Manhattan skews the overall picture. Also NYC is not alone. There are NJ, LI and Westchester. (Add CT to a lesser degree).
“Building affordable housing” Interesting. First, define affordable. Even one chooses to attempt this, the cost of housing involves many factors..a free market? Rates are really determined by what people are willing to pay not able to pay.
Really, there’s no economic reasoning that says everyone has to live in Manhattan. Something Ed Koch noted.
Second, Who is going to build this? And why?
Finally, I am skeptical. The storm impact mitigation stuff is being used here to promote the
land expansion idea. Sounds like some folks have figured a way to push a big idea using a smaller idea…and scare tactics.
Good job! How you say that this is the most powerful city in the world. Good job for emphasis in your voice. Good.
@15:59 1 acre of Manhattan is not 84k. 1.6 to 5 million seems to be the going rate, but I genuinely think 84 millions sounds more reasonable for Manhattan, then creating 150 billion in land value, for that 1.5 billion in tax revenue.
Instead of expanding we need to lower expenses for living and fix the infrastructure
The population of NYC is not growing, demand for real estate is growing. There is a demographic shift taking place in NYC. The poor/working class are being forced out while the wealth people are moving in. The wealthy demand more space so even as the population drops, demand for larger apartments goes up.
This just isn't true. We see mostly migrants now. The wealthy are leaving the city.
So, a city as big and important as NYC that sits on an island or peninsula, doesn't have any levees? This is crazy to me! The fact that they haven't been built something to protect this city is beyond me!
The rent control laws in NYC are so absurd that many landlords have a large number of apartments off the market, unoccupied and in dire need of renovation to put them back in service!
12:20 what magic is that crane using to pick up gravel?
What do you mean " it doesn't hurt to look at?", that would be part of a study costing $$$., There is no way access from the East to the Hudson Rivers are getting cut off between Battery Park and Governor's Island, by a landfill project, In reality you're just building more land to get flooded by possible major storms in the future. Where is the common sense?
Just move to Newark and save $555 TRILLION 👍👍👍
Exactly instead of spending resources to built inside the river … why not built up inland away from the river?!?! I don’t get it
because it would hurt new york's economy...the goal is to keep manhattan as a economic powerhub
15:55 Way Wrong " an acre of NYC land is $85,000" correction an acre cost $5 million in Manhattan... A two-car garage in NYC exceeds $85k, yet alone an acre.🤷🏿♂️
I remember hearing sandy is the new normal. 12 years have past nothing close to it has ever come again😂😂😂
The Dutch have been expanding Holland since two millennia - ua-cam.com/video/MJFmBte4crU/v-deo.html
You’re correct. We will be told affordable housing but it will be luxury when build.
California and Louisiana: "Oh! Um, ok. And have you ever done this before? Have you ever had to deal with natural disasters which might, for example, cause a significant rise in water levels or suddenly de-compact what was originally bedrock soil? Because you might want to look into that."
4:48 no way long island housing rent prices are low
In 1967 Montreal hosting the World Fair built two large islands on which over 100 pavilions were erected. So it can be done. It does cost, but it proved that with the proper planning it can be done
Narrowing the already fast moving East River and Hudson River should do wonders for rising water levels, not to mention speed of the currents further eroding riverbeds and shorelines... Good plan👌🏻
They’d only have 6 years to do this. They are never doing this by 2030. They couldn’t even do that congested pricing thing.
There’s no way an acre of land in Manhattan is only $85k. Has to be worth several million per acre, making the new reclaimed land worth billions, which makes more sense. The numbers you quoted are a couple orders of magnitude lower than anything believable.
I worked on a pier during hurricane sandy and I have to say shit was destroyed the very next day, the job I was working don’t even b busy in October but after the hurricane we were so busy and had no product to sell bc it was all destroyed crazy part was all the tourist came the next day bc they wanted to see how bad it was first hand
Damn that's 19,999,999 zombies
Sea leaves haven’t even rised enough to even notice in New York😂
New York can always be replaced as the financial center. There has to be a point where spending to keep it from eventually returning to the sea must end. A breakeven point where spending to keep it dry exceed costs of just up and moving to dry places, like upstate or Connecticut, for example.
Well, then the battery park history will be rewritten- how do ones protect the island while it was way back there ? Kinda weird.
Would hardly go through with all of this expansion
If you put a patch over the old wounds it’s not going to heal. The source has to be resolved first! Construct a surge barrier so expansions are possible and sea water is controlled.
Why don't they pump that money into widening the FDR from beginning to end & other roadways to improve traffic flow & help the congestion pricing issue?
Because people don’t live or work on the roadway. There’s only so much space for cars in manhattan. Speed is rarely an issue on the drive. It’s getting off the drive that’s the “problem”. Congestion pricing would just make it easier for wealthy people to travel in the city. Not to mention how Prices in the city have far outpaced increases in wages. There was a time when you could actually afford to live there, say 30 yo. Now, even 200k a year is rock bottom to live somewhat ok.
@@IcelanderUSer The reason why speed is not an issue is, it (the FDR) is always congested, esp. at the bottle neck point at to the entrance of the Bklyn. bridge. They have never upgraded this road project. They will build a Dam, fund more wars, before they invest money in that roadway project!
widening roads does. not. work. You want to encourage NOT using the car to lower traffic, instead of widening roads, cause if you build it, they will come
@@AnymMusic I think nothing you do will solve the problem completely as people have & want the right to drive. Can't imagine everyone taking a bus or subway to get about. The FDR still need fixing as anybody that rides it daily will know
@@IcelanderUSer There's only so much space for people or anything. Ever walk on 6TH Ave. & 42nd street?
I would ask of this project?
Is that if there is a provision in this idea of a new land mass for NYC Manhattan… A future safeguard against a high water surge during, earthquakes, unusual weather patterns, major Tropical storms,Hurricanes and yearly rise in water levels?
If you dump that much soil and rock into the harbor won’t the soil and rock displace the water and rise the sea levels? If I throw rocks into a tub of water the water level will rise.
if this expansion goes through would Manhattan be bigger then the Bronx or no
No
NEVERRR~!!
They need to start moving ppl upstate where there is a lot of space the city alone is a population of a country.
@johnwalter9696 upstate is already ruined. Just because you have more trees. Don’t make it nice.🤣
It already has major major issues… make the issues bigger?
Waste and not worth it. Plenty of boroughs (The Bronx , Queens, Brooklyn and Staten Island) to replace old buildings with new tall buildings. I can see that and save a lot of money 💰.
Love it! Immigrants come to New York to balled a new life 😂😂😂
Clearly we just need to build over the existing city and call it New New York
How can you say the apartments are sitting empty and then in the next sentence say that the vacancy rate is only 3%?
Because they’re all owned by investor who want to sell all their real estate when house prices fo up and earn a huge profit - they don’t live in all of them at once! 👍
Why extend lower Manhattan island with wetlands just to add more housing? Why not extend the island with wetlands to add more flood plains to the island?
Mayoral candidate Zellnor Myrie has a plan to build 1 Million homes in NYC. We can do more with the land we already have.
I highly doubt it. How many years have Penn Station projected taken. N it’s much
I would recommend short 30 to 60 years leases to allow for renewal and adaptation in the city. No use adding more land if you do not have the power to renew and space to resolve problems of the day. Maybe in the future one might be short of spaces for commercial, you might add, or if you're short of a peculiar space you need in the city, well New York would have space.
2030??? Hahahahahah not a chance in hell. Not even 2050
It could work if they make singapore style publci hosuing within it
That is the dumbest idea on the planet! Whatever small island extension you build will quickly be too crowded. The problem is Housing as an Investment Asset. Stop allowing the rich to buy up and develop housing that is beyond the reach of people who work 40-50 hours a week in all types of jobs. Stop Housing as Investment and there will be no problem. America has KEYBOARD money. Right now the top 1% are accessing the Keyboard Money for damn near free and they use that interest free, rollover money to impoverish All The Rest.
I mean it's both. Yes obviously rich folk using it as investment assets and leaving them empty (or overcharge on rent) is a problem, however space would still become an quick issue with how generally wanted NYC is to many. Like you make it more affordable, more people will move in again, space gets smaller quickly, still need to extend it out
what fuckin rising sea levels???
Have Manhattan expand all the way to Staten Island so that we can finally connect the subway with the Staten Island railway
I give it 200 years and $200 trillion
It's not so much that the sea levels are rising, as it is a fact that the eastern end of North America is slowly sinking into the Atlantic Ocean. After the last ice age (18,000 years ago approximately), once the glaciers over north-central North America began to retreat, the center of the continent has been slowly rising up, causing the Atlantic coast line to descend. Even if humans were to stop global warming in the near future, the Atlantic coast will still be sinking for the next several centuries.
0:55 that’s the guy who slowly ate a burger on live tv, telling citizens that they would get a free burger with fries if they got the jab.
Make most of all buildings apartments with 6-50 floors, the traffic in downtown is so bad,even in Beijing, basically only the 4 inner ring roads have bad traffic.
We had to leave Brooklyn for Philly a couple of years ago. Couldn't afford it. And we're upper middle class!
It's not just that they used to flood... the sea level is rising
They don’t have the will to control crime and spending. This will never get done
This video gets to many things wrong
First off nyc people are moving to nj not the rest of the state especially upstate
Second they are not growing they are shrinking and projected to continue
Third they have a even bigger problem with there zoning and crime and fixing those to will do much better then wast money on expanding the city.
Like maybe instead of expanding it they should update the zoning and start expanding on the upper half of nyc like rock land and west Chester
Not trying to sound like an idiot but why not urbanize Staten Island
Seriously, I agree with that. Give it the Downtown Brooklyn treatment.
It is because no one wants to live near Staten Islanders.
@@manonthemoogStaten islanders are mostly just Brooklyn people that moved there , most Brooklyn’s move to Staten Island when they want to start a family or want a slower pace of life , he’s right doe as a Staten islander we got a lot of space and it’s not as bad a people make it same, south shore are trumpies but north shore pretty chill
@@dodge1515Staten island north shore by the ferry has a Brooklyn feel to it , very urban and diverse
If the expansion is at the same level as the rest of Manhatten then the problems of sea level rise and storm surges will not be solved. The expansion must be built at a higher elevation on a platform on pillars but that could be an eyesore and the public may not accept it.
It would probably never happen, but what if New York unpaved most of it's streets and turned them into tree lined pedestrian/cyclist only (with exceptions for supply vehicles)? Might help a bit with flooding. Also shocked to hear there is only one transit connection between NY and NJ.
There are more the video is wrong:
1- Holland Tunnel
2- Lincoln Tunnel
3- George Washington Bridge
4- Ferry rides across the hudson from weehawkin NJ to midtown manhattan.
But yes another bridge or tunnel would be nice.
Blud are using galvanized square steel‼️
it wont be necessary due to people choosing to leave and ground level businesses closing
10:26
900 million for a "study", sounds like money well spent.
NINE HUNDRED MILLION!!!
It's wild that you can't touch the wetlands on your property, but these clowns get to build entire cities on them
this is one of the dumbest proposals I've seen. Luckily NYC planning is basically non existent and it's a city that prides itself on it's worst attributes so they'd never want to do anything too ambitious.
Better idea as Japan did " high concrete wall" around the cost=line.
Did someone think about Staten island and subway commuters?
Wouldn’t it be better and so much cheaper if they just build better transportation that can take you to the city in 20 mins.
I believe that part is gonna be even more expensive everywhere new they build is more money exactly look at lower manhattan who tf is gonna be able to afford to live out there
the world financial center being inland will look weird imo
Why can't we start building things underwater at this point?
I heard people were moving out. Do they really need to grow it?
1 million people move out of NYC every year. Problem is 1.2 million want to move in.
@@manonthemoog Thanks for the info
If they do this, just leave the island that the Statue of Liberty is on alone. Don’t need New York getting any ideas.
They must be insane, Manhattan is sinking!
TOO MANY YT ADS!!!!!
This would cost over a trillion dollars and take at least 50 years to build
How about we upzone all of Brooklyn queens Manhattan Staten Island and Bronx and build high rises where ever there are parking lots, parking garages and highways, especially highways, highways separate neighborhoods and create pollution, so we should get rid of them and put in housing. Then idea of removing parking lots and parking garages might upset some, but this nyc, 55 percent of residents take public transit, so majority of people won’t be affected by the loss of parking, plus there is still street parking. Also nyc is a super dense city and there is just not enough space for everyone to park and drive a car. Oh and let’s fill in industrial areas with housing and when ever a house or apartment gets too old and collapses, we should then create a new high rise or skyscraper apartment in its place. Oh and there’s a lot of unused land in Staten Island, so let’s build tons more apartments in Staten Island. Staten Island could easily have 2.5 million people if it had the population density of Brooklyn
Honestly they need money for police and some new judges
NYC #95 for crime tho
@@Odm1776Conservatives don't care about facts, that's why they cling to their failing ideology. Cities in their states are far more dangerous but no one talks about that
The NYPD is easily the most over funded police department in the country if funding the police was the solution then it would’ve worked by now😅
Its alright they’ll drive down demand long before it would complete