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🇮🇪❤ 🇿🇦 Irish fan here. We’re happy with how our team are playing at the moment but we’re under no illusions that SA are world champions. We’d love to just get past a bloody quarter final! These talking points are just media driven to sell some content. I was at the World Cup match between us in Paris, great atmosphere and two great teams. Looking forward to June.
You should come to Loftus… hardest place to beat the Boks 😂. If you beat us there you can rightly claim no 1
@jonnywalker5361 we're all enjoying how your team plays at the moment, smashing rugger & great to watch. We can't wait for them to arrive in the Republic
Well All Blacks will be trying to equal South Africa's 26 wins on home soil@@Zion66666sure Springboks won't let that happen.
All Blacks currently 25 wins.
The July tests will be legendary.
They won't...both teams will be missing big players with injuries and the ones that are fit will be running on fumes
SA will smash Ireland at home. It will not be competitive.
Not really, expect waves of scummy abuse against irish people win or lose sadly
Absolutely, the 2x World Cup winning squad and no.1 in the World vs the only team to beat them in the World Cup who ranked no.1 prior to the World Cup. Whoever wins these tests can confidently claim to be no.1.
Gonna be absolutely huge
@@kealenosullivan4382 World Rugby’s report on online abuse disagrees with you, buddy. South Africans were the most targeted fanbase with respect to online abuse during the world cup, and surprise, surprise, the Irish were disproportionately responsible for much of the abuse. In fact, adjusting for population, Ireland was the worst offender.
If there was a league table looking back at the last 24 months, I suspect Ireland would be at the top of it. They are probably the most consistent team of the last two years. However the best team in the world are the world champions - SA.
Roll on the Summer tests.
I'm Irish btw.
Havent SA lost to Ireland the last 3 tests?,going on that its hard to even call SA the best they only beat a 14 man NZ by 1
There is a table. It's called the IRB rankings - the same one Ireland quoted repeated until the QF's.
@Trajan2401 I was going to say pretty sure no other side could've beaten a 14 man NZ in a final but SA. Was thinking Ireland and France but Ireland had their chances at NZ everything on their side when it mattered and what happened.
You conveniently left out that they had the hardest path to a final in the history of rugby world cups, must suck to be as jealous as you huh? And because of how they'll now do future draws the act will never be repeated again, making it that much more legendary.@@Trajan2401
@@Trajan2401 & yet the same SA team beat NZ by 28 a few weeks earlier - wasn't it the heaviest defeat ever inflicted on NZ?
The Boks are the best. We meet them in the summer to see if we can win the series. Even if we do win, the AB's have that QF win over us. Most Irish supporters are just enjoying watching the team play.
The Boks are not the best team in the world. You can't go 1 for 8 in round robin competitions and claim to be the best team ever(and the one they did win they only won 2 of their 3 games)
@@peadarrthey are the best team in the world and thats why they are ranked number 1 in the world and are the world champs. Dry those tears old chap🙂
@@thegoat4124 the “best team in the world” shouldn’t be on a 3 game losing streak to one team or need results in another match to go their way just to get out of the group stage, or have 1 rugby championship to their name since it was expanded to 4 teams
No one has a real claim to “best team in the world” when the top three teams all won one and lost one against each other in the RWC
@@peadarr the best team on the world would have won the world cup and last i checked, that was the Boks (who got out their group pretty easily)? Last i checked the rankings said the Boks are the number 1 team in the world amd back to back world champs🙂. Why limit the history to the last few games, in Ireland's and South Africas rugby history, who has beaten who more (just to avoid selective date ranges when we talk of rugby games between the 2 nations)🙂 you need to work off of facts not feelings!🙂
@@thegoat4124 Why limit it to the last few games?Because those are ones the current teams actually played. And South Africa were out of the World Cup if Scotland had some how managed to beat Ireland by 10 points ( it was a well covered story at the time), hence they were reliant on the result in that game
But sure mate, you go on believing that beating literally the worst England team in history and a 14 man All Blacks by a single point, makes them the best team in history, better than the 2015 All blacks that won 7/8 previous rugby championships/trinations, went 18 games unbeaten and managed to win every game they played in 2 successive RWCs
There isn’t even anyone in the Irish media saying this (which is a surprise), it’s more the GB media. We know where we’re at and still chasing the best.
As an Irishman I totally agree. South Africa are the best team in the world and the team to beat🇮🇪🇿🇦🇮🇪🇿🇦🇮🇪🇿🇦
Sorry - that’s not true. The Irish media hype insanely just as much as most other medias. Look who owns all the media!
hello from Ireland.....good chat boys, huge respect for you guys, wonderful players and loved watching you. Maybe we are not the best, maybe we are, but we are damn enjoying our rugby at the moment. If we can win two grand slams back to back it will be very big for us and the sport in Ireland.
Very classy comment, thank you!
I think these guys were very fair and balanced, they don't rule out that Ireland may be no 1, but they can't claim it until they smash SA in SA
when was the last time SA smashed Ireland in Ireland? Must be over ten years now right?
@@paulleahy155 if Ireland won a world.cup they would not have to prove it, SA don't have to smash anyone as they scraped through and proved they are at the top of the pile
@@davidroseitgSA are just jammy a 14 man NZ side was better in the final just luck didnt go their way
@@Trajan2401Shame, salty Trajan, you poor thing. Always bitching like a baby.
@@Trajan2401 in sport the glory goes to the winner 🏆 it's not about lucky or not lucky it's about winning. I am an Ireland fan and was there when we won the group game!
As an Irish person, I've heard others say they think we're the best in the world at the moment but this is usually not Irish people saying this and I agree the standard in the 6 nations is not great this year. How can you say we are no 1 in the world when SA are officially no 1 in the world rankings and holding the Webb Ellis? Can't wait for the upcoming tests though, should be great games.
Well wasn't a kiwi because we know officially South Africa are the Wotld Champions & No1 ranked team.
As an Irishman, I don't think ireland can consider themselves no. 1. If we have a good test series in South Africa, then maybe, but right now, South Africa has earned the right to the no. 1 spot.
Lmao you guys couldn't even beat a washed up all black team in the world cup last year. Bronze suits Irish kiwi team 😂
You know "the greatest team ever" is on a 3 game losing streak to Ireland,
"IF" and good luck
@LigiMaiBolos your right. We weren't, but still good enough to beat South Africa 😛
@@peadarr also a WC hat trick. To be fair the last 2 games we played without goal kickers.
Ireland have been by far the most consistent team in world rugby for years. South Africa couldn’t beat them, New Zealand have lost a home series.. the World Cup loss by a held up try after one bad game is a blip. It’s wonderful to watch them play, it’s so easy on the eye.
You need to watch more rugby mate. Ireland chokes under pressure :D It does not matter how many matches they win against Italy, Wales and so on, if they cannot win when it really matters. The W against the Boks there way lucky OKeefe allowed an abscene amount of penalties and the ABs stomped over them, mentally and physically. Do not be butt hurt that your irish boys suck under pressure. Just accept it.
@@mauroger86laughable nonsense, every single word of it - give over!
@@mauroger86 Why don't SA win when it matters in the RC? WC is most important of course but its only once every 4 years. Surely the best teams win consistently no?
@@liamwilliams6651you just answered your own question 😂... Not even a year past the RWC and you guys are back out the woodwork 😂😂
@@karabomafa5609 where do I answer my own question? Are you suggesting that SA intentionally lose the RC to win the WC? Because if you think that then the delusion must be strong in SA.
South Africa is setting the trend for the rest of the world, fortunately the Springboks are still evolving in their style of play. Excited for 2024/25 🎉😊
All Blacks don't follow South Africa's trend you set for the rest of the world. Since when???
They clearly dont😂@@richardmatatahi4563
Love to see these 4 on the sofa again analysing the Irish England game after the result. Just to see their opinions again.
No one in Ireland is saying they are the world #1. Unfortunately they can’t stop other people spouting such nonsense.
I do! But I also think that glue smells lovely.
So nobody drank their beer? 🤣
I think they had too much of it 😂😂
I noticed that too. Disappointed to be honest from quality players. Sad day for rugby.
Drinking from glasses as well not pints. Games gone too soft
@@JMac_96 it’s depressing
Looking forward to the match up! As you guys say, between the lines, it's going to be compelling . Cheers!!
Can anyone explain to me why South Africa and Ireland are only playing two Tests this summer instead of the traditional three, like Ireland did against New Zealand in 2022? It is a real shame, as were it to stand at 1-1 after two matches, everyone would want to see a decider.
Whatever Sam Warburton says, South Africa are World Champions, and for Ireland to legitimately be called the “best team in the world”, we would have to beat the Boks twice in their own back yard. Which would be highly unlikely.
For now, we’re happy to simply be the best team in Europe, and were we to achieve back-to-back Grand Slams, that would be worth celebrating. Trust me, I watched enough dire Irish rugby in the ‘80s and ‘90s, to fully enjoy our current form.
Living abroad in Mexico, this team gives us ex-pats a lot of joy, and a were it all to come up Milhouse on St. Patrick’s weekend, that’d be truly epic! ☘️
A good question I assume the federations agreed on two tests rather than three because of player load - fatigue. Both sides were in the red last year. Farrell's refusal to rotate in the pool games was a fatal mistake for the Irish and Rassie's decision to start the same XV for England that had taken to the field against France was *almost* a disaster.
I'm half Irish, half South African, so I want both to do well and the Irish to win the next Webb Ellis. At the moment, I'd say they've got the best chance of all the top dogs, largely because of the relatively young age of their squad and their superb coaching set-up. SA, however, will be a different proposition with a Kiwi attack coach and New Zealand have finally found themselves an elite coach. Robertson is going to get the Kiwis humming again, though he hasn't got the players to emulate the great McCaw-Carter axis of 2011-15. Yet.
@@davesmith826 No it has nothing to do with fatigue or anything like that. This year England are only playing 2 tests in NZ, Wales only play 2 tests vs Australia and France only play 2 tests vs Argentina. 3 test series as we know it are effectively over. This is the start of the shift from old school test series to the new Nations Championship/League which starts in 2026 where even a 2 test series will be rare. I reckon next year will be 2 test series but from 2026, we will only see one-off tests, similar to what we see in November tests.
No one in Ireland said that (Ireland No.1) have to fact check you on that my friend, that question will be answered this summer. Content farming I think lads.
Did you even watch? They do say "We get a quote from Ireland or Wales." They did not say it came from the Irish but just mentioned a quite, I know it wasn't an Irish person who said it and they clear that up. They give pretty fair and balanced opinions, a lot of praise for Ireland too. They also don't claim SA will destroy them in the upcoming tests either.
This is high quality analysis. The truth is that the Northern hemisphere (Ireland apart) is a bit of a mess right now.
100% agree, can't say your the best team in the world when you leave the WC in a 1/4 final. Coming from an Irish man.
Can't wait for the Series in the June.
Nobody Irish said we're #1?? We're not.
@@newyorkeyerish Respectfully as a South African from my perspective that question is up for debate. I know we won the RWC and are #1 on the points board but you guys were the only ones to beat us in the RWC, and personnally and as a SA boy I would love to see the rematch/s to see if we can settle this debate. This is my personal opinion, not speaking for the rest of SA. All the best.
@Mark777h Looking forward to the 2 upcoming tests in SA but SA may be a tad rusty. No?
I was wondering why South African fans were getting so rattled on social media about Ireland recently but I think they are just reading too much English media
English Media. 😂😂😂😂 Ex Irish players never gave England a Chance. And guess what like these Clowns they know nothing about Rugby.
I loved that moment of silence when the question was asked 😂🤣
I’m Irish and reiterate what my fellow countrymen are saying.. Boks number 1! Respect Warburton but he’s talking gibberish when we have played a poor french side n co. Still be nice to do back to back slams try and heal our World Cup pain.
The best reading of the 6 Nations I have seen for a while. I think St Africa, New Zealand and Ireland are a long way ahead of everyone else at this point in time.
We need a lot more of S Burgers voice. He’s always spot on.
I personally don't care who is seen as the best in the world, I just want to see amazing rugby and there's no better opportunity than seeing great teams go head to head like South Africa, New Zealand and Ireland. Ireland tend to play better when they have better opposition so going up against the likes of those two would be a treat for any rugby fan. I think those three teams are the best in the world, by far, and on any given day any one of them could beat the others, that's what make it so amazing.
lekker as ever !! Bravo
Bulletin board material for the June tests 🔥🔥🔥
I remember listening to this and thinking as an England fan that I mostly agreed. However I have been delightfully surprised that we won against the Irish in a game where we didn't rely on luck at all, we were just the better team plain and simple. It's funny how we've all been proved wrong by that performance
As Bok fan, I can tell you that most of us have Ireland as a second side. When you guys play New Zealand...my house is Irish for a weekend.
And what the guys above say is absolutely true - your current brand of rugby is nothing short of sublime.
No one in Ireland is saying we're the best in the world, its other countries saying that,
We know we're one of the best but thats it,
It always baffles me when NZ or SA fans get onto the Irish,
Its like its a monumental achievement beating SA and NZ for us,
Especially last 10 to 15 yrs,
Like its truly astonishing what Ireland are doing,
Player population wise, Ireland on paper should be about 8th or 10th in the world,
So consistently being as competitive as we have been is truly incredible, it really is.
Where can I watch the full episodes of these shows???
Well... It seems England answered the questions...
There seem to be a helluva lot of blinkered dick-wavers making comments on here. Not all. But, really, some of denigating comments about other top teams are a bit pathetic. Each set of fans can rightly be proud of their history and record, for different reasons, but all this crap about "we're better than you because " is pretty boring to read. Can we not just be satisfied that we currently have some great teams playing rugby across the world, with some cracking games to look forward to? For what it's worth, the WR.Ranking system can always be debated, but it's the only one we've got, so just live with it. Each team will get the chance in due course to try to prove the rankings right or wrong. That's what keeps it exciting.
NO we're not the best in the world, obviously, we got licked by a try in the qf. But Ireland used to be terrible. Number 2 is pretty good, im happy with that.
Also, I think its insane, that even though Ireland didnt make a semi final in October and even before the 6n started, we were still ranked number 2 in the world. That is seriously bizarre and awesome.
Only thing is Ireland is not number 2. NZ is.
Oh Please! The Springboks are the best team. Ranked first in the world, went back to back in the World Cup AND won the British & Irish Lions tour. I can't wait for the Irish to come to South Africa and play the Springboks in our backyard.
Both teams are tops and we must enjoy the Highs and remember the lows. We as saffa might not be a top 5 contender in 10 years time ..respect and enjoy boys.
It's been 8 years since SA won a game vs Ireland, hard stat to take!
It’s been 8 years since Ireland last beat South Africa in South Africa.
That game in France I'm taking as a win...we were better than them and there is no way that last mail was brought down legally.
@@jksinorbit😂😂
Its been 8 years since Ireland played the Boks outside of their own back yard, or with the Boks not at the arse end of their grueling season, lol! And yes, that includes Marseille, which is significantly closer to Dublin than Johannesburg is to Cape Town 🤘😂
8 years boys, I wasn't aware the pitch location mattered, but hey if you need that, then you'll be happy soon.@@adamvanderriet9669
I like getting the other nations perspectives on Ireland atm, great to hear as many different perspectives as possible.
Plus these guys are all pretty likeable, nice easy listening
i am irish and we are not the best in the world sadly, its the saffers. we might be the best team BETWEEN WORLD CUPS but there is no trophy for that, tho if farrel stays and we keep being inventive we should have a quality team at the next world cup as our u20 are excellent tho there is a worry about lack of up and coming props
Ireland - the best team that never won a World Cup. We can only dream....!
Us Irish people are just over the moon with how we are playing with a tiny pool of players against the Giant rugby nations,
We're loving it!
I hope we win back to back slams,
Ireland is the only country in Europe where SA passport holders don't need visa.
Your constitution was signed in Dublin.
Best of luck to both teams in June, pity its not a 3 test tour
Not sure what the relevance of your post is. What have the RoI visa situation and the location of the signing of the constitution of the RoI (which is not the whole of the territory from which the Ireland team is drawn, in case you didn't know or had forgotten) got to do with this debate?
Irish fan here. A bit of hype in the NH but you guys are spot on. They are playing poorer opposition. SA are the best team in the world full stop. Ireland can solidify credentials by going to SA and winning but, that is a huge undertaking. Love the Boks, they are inspirational...
Ireland ain't All Blacks priority in 2024, South Africa are, with England next, those tries Ireland scored in their loss to England were awesome tries, you have every right to be proud, and also disappointed, but make your own luck in South Africa.
As a kiwi I really don't mind Ireland taking ranking points off South Africa, with a massive 4.15 ranking points ahead of Ireland, and the All Blacks not far behind, I can't wait for the Rugby Championship to start, with South Africa in mind and England 3 test matches. I'll be watching every game with interest.
Ireland, NZ and SA are great sides and there is nothing between them. SA are only good in World Cups, in the last 4 years Ireland were good in between world cups. NZ are a bit of both. No marker to clearly say who are the best. That is what makes rugby interesting.
Schalk is a gent and a not unexpected great analyst
Yes we are the WC holders, but did we beat Ireland in that tournament ? .... No. The last time we have beaten them was in 2016. Shimmy needs a little perspective. And btw if the Springboks came away with 2-1 victory tour against the AB's in New Zealand you would be talking about it for the next 20 years , so don't try and be little that Irish achievement.
Should be having 3 test matches without question. England have no chance, it’s been dry in London for a couple of days and only light rain coming Saturday. Love this show guys. Thank you
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Four quietly frightened men telling each other that they’re not frightened. 😉 Roll on the tests…
Only in your mind.
South Africa have a winning record against every country aside from New Zealand and have won 50% of the world cups they’ve ever attended.
Ireland on the other hand has a 50% record against Namibia. There are levels to this game.
@@jacquescoetzee47 You can cherry pick results all you want. Of the last 3 World Cups Ireland and South Africa have lost 4 games each and Japan have a win over both of them. The reality is there is little between the two teams the levels you talk about are fine margins like it is at the top of every professional game
@jacquescoetzee47 south africa have a 0% win record against Peru
@@jacquescoetzee47I can’t believe you’re this dumb to say that! 😂
All of a sudden these irish fans in the comments want to be all humble. What a joke. It is all just british and irish media bias. World rugby had it all planned out last year on who was going to to win the RWC but yet World rugby can not understand how a team from Africa can constantly perform and win the RWC.
Ireland play good rugby but for what? to win a 6 nations competition that is played by basically 2 teams? ireland will always be nothing until they get past a RWC quarter final
Who are the Boks playing against ?
All Blacks
Until 15 vs 15 plays we really don’t know who is the best.
14 vs 15 is not really contest.
Who is the best team in the world historically over time judging by overall win % in all tests ever played irrespective of era or when the game went professional or number of world cups won. New Zealand by a country mile over everyone else.
Isnt it great to see the whole panel call it sooo wrong .....super result England....from a kiwi
About Ireland joining the rugby championship? We could do with a good workout!
As a kiwi your workout will come sure enough and you're not from the SH, there is talk Japan and a Pacific Ialand Team maybe joining, sometime in the future.
No is the answer to the question. When the chips were down last year South Africa got over the line so it's their crown for the moment. Bloody good team are Ireland though and their best performance is a huge hurdle for opponents to overcome.
The chat about ENG vs IRE didn't age well... 😂.
Well done Eng on proving Ireland are not beatable.
SAFFA
I liked this analysis. Sometimes I think South Africans can be somewhat dismissive of Ireland just because they haven't done well in World Cups. But I think this discussion was a more fair, balanced evaluation of Ireland.
As an Ireland fan, I am happy with how the team are doing. But I do accept that the current Six Nations opposition is not very strong and I also accept that we have to win a World Cup before we can definitively call our team the best.
schrodinger's south africa, somehow the greatest rugby team in history, but also insignificant if you were the only team to beat them at the world cup
Japan also beat the boks at a world cup...they also didn't make it past a quarter final...so...same difference
@@azalianieuwenhuys8844 ?? south africa didnt' win that world cup lol. so completely different
@@davepenn7774 yes you're right we didn't win that cup but based on your analogy what happens in the pool stages count...it doesn't! No one remembers what happens between world cups...
South Africa have an amazing cricket team with world class greats of the game that play brilliantly between world cups but has never won anything! So we intrinsically as a nation know what that means and looks like...infact the boks were there during Nick Malletts tenure as bok coach too...
Ireland cant be No.1 in the world he says? Why? Because Ireland are winning the 6 Nations too easily. Because Ireland beat South Africa at the world cup? Saffas are in denial.
Ireland are not the best. Beat South Africa and New Zealand then we'll see.
No, because Ireland left the WC in the 1/4 final. You in denial?
In every other sport everyone calls the winner at world level the best regardless of what happens on the way there. It's like claiming because Usain Bolt comes second in a heat he isn't really the fastest man even after he wins the final. Or saying hey because Argentina lost their group game to Saudi Arabia and narrowly beat France we can't say they're the best. The best teams do it when it counts. You don't win a trophy for doing the best in the group stage or pre tournament. The current World Champs have won it 4 times out of 8 appearances. Ireland might be good but they have not even managed to go one better than they previously had. End of story.
South Africa are the best team in the world, they won the world cup after all. I say that as an Irish fan.
@@idiotwatch8420 We have beaten South Africa. Recently.
SA are one of course no one is disputing that well maybe the kiwi's. SA proved in WC they can play it a number of different ways to win/great management/mental toughness.
In terms of ability, its a three way tie between SA, Ireland and New Zealand in my opinion.
Unless we blow South Africa away in their own back yard like we did to NZ then I don't think we are #1. I consider the World Cup to be a better marker of #1 anyway esp after a WC year. At best we are equal with SA. Any game between us can go either way. Down in SA, it will be a good bit harder to make the games go our way but there is no pressure on them like there will be on SA. Going to be an incredible series. ☘
Ireland are a quality side, very impressive to be honest. Technically the best side in the world in my view. I do think SA and NZ have more x-factor players though so potentially stronger teams.
Wat roek djy? Julle nie die world cup final gekyk nie? Bokke kook meneer
Not sure how the Bokke squad will look as some big names are more likely to be missing out on the two tests due to injuries or club rugby commitments. Still I trust whoever Rassie and company will select will be the RIGHT people for the job.
I thought the world cup was the tournament that ends all discussions
Problem is June test - Ireland will be cohesive off the back of six nations..boks will only have 1 test v wales in twickerham - and need to convene the team from four corners of the earth..that’s a distinct advantage/ disadvantage…
My problem here is that Ireland will have form when they arrive here in SA where as we will be experimenting with some of the players from the alignment camp which might give everyone the opinion that SA is not as goos as the were at the rugby world cup
Lol Robbie Fleck 🤣
Just a bunch of Saffa's talking a lot of sense. Great watch.
Looking back at the World cup 2023, there is only 2 national sides playing International Rugby, the Spring Boks and the Pumas, the rest are all Barbarian sides...🤣🤣
i would like to talk with someone knowledgeable... i am new to rugby and have questions i cant find on line
I'm Irish and living in Ireland. We are still hurting after last year's WC and are under no illusions. We are not the #1 team in the world and will never consider ourselves as such until we lift the Webb Ellis. The 6N this year is very poor compared to normal and even if it was at a good standard and we won it well .. so what? We know we are never going to think of ourselves as being one of the best until we have done what the other best teams have done .. SA, NZ, Aus and (jeezz this hurts) Eng .. win a WC. Irrespective of the small playing pool, Ireland have a lot of great young talent coming through and a very good funnel for bring it through to the national team .. I'm hopeful 🤞
Nonsense . Ireland will beat anyone right now. You can’t loose ti us every time and claim your better .
No, we're not. We've moved on, unlike France.
The IRB world rankings is as good a method as any to determine the world #1
We are enjoying how we' are playing at the moment for sure but I have a question. One of the guys here said we havent been tested. My question is..when was the last time South Africa beat Ireland? We beat you in nov 22. We beat you in the pool stages of the world cup. You think we havent been tested. Really???. We went to NZ and beat the ABs twice. We won a grand slam last year and are still unbeaten. The only team to beat us were the ABs in the quater final and only lucky because they held up a ball.Its not all about the world cup, thats only a game that happnes every four years.
Which school is this at....bishops?
But for that Ref. - TMO mistake, Scotland would still be in for the slam. I don't see how these guys can ignore them as they have. Ireland will probably win on points even if Scotland beat them next week but point is, they deserve recognition as the second best team in the competition
Well looks like the England defence held up against the Irish. They are a dangerous team.
SA and the other S Hemisphere teams need to take pre WC year end tours seriously instead of 'building'. Its not a strength v strength system.
o7 for those fallen beers
Its ONLY English Welsh and Scottish commentators saying this nonsense about "best in the world" The irish are bemused at this. Now Bothwick is joining in and said it today! They all have an agenda to do this...its a clever and subtle way of putting a target on irelands back and simultaneously playing down their own sides poor performance. They would also know that would drive the Boks (and Kiwis )mad....just as a bonus point🙄🙄🙄
you're forgetting that in 2016 Ireland had a B team on tour - i can't remember why - (it wasn't disrespect) - it wasn't a normal series - but we still managed very well - and Ireland has a very good record against south africa
No they don’t. The record is 19-8 in South Africa’s favour, with the majority of games played in Ireland (where South Africa has a winning record as well). Ireland has only beaten South Africa in South Africa once in 120 years.
Last time I checked Robbie Fleck was south african, so why is he refering to Ireland as we?
So what do you guys think now???
I have heard many pundits from all around the rugby world agree that Ireland play the most attractive and exciting rugby. Have just listened to a SA pundit talking about the Eng v Ire game, and he kept describing Irish rugby as beautiful to watch. So far in this 6Ns Ireland haven’t really been tested, so the SA tour will be a test for us. Hopefully we haven’t peaked too early for that, I would like to see both teams at their very best.
I believe we are definitely up there in the top 3 current best teams in the world, SA currently at the top purely on their WC achievement. Thanks for your thoughts 🇮🇪☘
Look out the boks are coming.
This is an argument for or against changing rugby world rankings. I think the method used is fair enough. It's definitely superior to any one persons opinion. If you don't believe in rankings just don't get involved in the discussion. If you think it would be fairer another way make your case.
if Ireland played the boks in the final Ireland wins, its would have been an amazing final 15 v 15
If we look at match history (reasonably, rather than load it for a redesired result) things are certainly interesting, pointing to quite a shift the past 8-10 odd years now.
Ireland vs South Africa (2014 to present):
Ireland 5 wins
SA 2 wins
Ireland vs Australia (2014 to present)
Ireland 5 wins
Australia 1 win
Ireland vs NZ (2016 to present)
Ireland 5 wins
NZ 4 wins
Ireland seem to turned the corner the last decade or so and have a positive win record against all 3 of SH Sanzaar giants.
Also, unpopular opinion, Sexton cost Ireland the WC quarter final. Ireland are better without him and they proving it since. Great player, but he was a mental crutch/liability for the team.
The Springboks are the #1 team in the world, that's because of their ranking and their win in the RWC. But South Africa didn't beat Ireland to win the World Cup, so the comparison can't be made as far as RWC results are concerned. Ireland have beaten South Africa in their last three fixtues. This means that there is more at stake than realised when it comes to the July tests, which are going to be cracking games.
Apologies to all the South Africans, I personally see Ireland getting on top of South Africa in July. They simply will have had more game time together, but beating South Africa in South Africa isn't easy.
We were World number 1 going into the World Cup..didn't help our cause..tbh World Rankings are media driven.
Heres a 'what if' what if Ireland win both games? A & E rugby podcast conceded that Ireland would likely win the first game as SA would not be up to speed, saying the second game is their best chance. Well if Ireland are 5-0 up over 10 years, will SA concede the 'best in the world title' To be fair it would be wise to wait to see if they can close out the 6n.
England recently showed the Southern Hemisphere how to beat the Irish. What’s worse is that the Southern Hemisphere already knows how to beat the Irish 😂
Is Malcolm Marx still injured?
Yes. Surgey to repair ACL and average recovery approx 9 months for ACL type injuries involving surgery so doubt he will feature again until end of the year but u never know these days. He might be ready for rugby championship but they probably don't want 2 rush him back.
He's at the alignment camp so might be ready by June
No we are not, we are about 3rd - behind the boks and AB's - dont listen to the media hype, most fans are grounded enough..we just need to learn how to win some of those big games.
The reason we have the world cup is to see who is the best in the world .
Best in the world for more years till next rwc sourh africa. Finish and klaar...
Best team in the world and world champions don't necessarily have to be the same thing.
No one who knows rugby is saying Ireland are the best in the world, especially not in Ireland. However, we are trying to be the best in the world. If we win the Grand Slam, beat South Africa 2-0 and beat New Zealand in November then yes we are the best team in the world for 2024 but so what? Its a term that gets thrown around. In 3 years time there'll be another world cup where everyone will have their say and we will again try and get out of a quarter final 😅
Then the Irish on Facebook must not know rugby, because there is an entire army of them on there clogging up the URC and 6N forums proclaiming Ireland to be the "real" no.1 team in the world 🤘
Not on Facebook but one of the measures of pride in this Ireland side from genuine supporters is our understanding that we need to get better to win a RWC. Touring NZ in 22 and SA this year is about testing ourselves against the very very best, learning and improving. There’s no arrogance in the real Irish rugby fan or that squad (we know how good we can be but how hard we have to work to get better).
@@adamvanderriet9669don’t let it affect you. Focus why jt does? Maybe we are? Maybe we’re not? From the way we play currently we certainly look like it compared to South Africa who didn’t beat us and they struggled to beat England.
As rugby fans is not about who is best just enjoy the games and relax your ego ☘️💚
This is exactly why Saffa fans are like this because EUROPEANS bloviate about a team winning an inept competition calling them the best while we have a side in the Boks who ARE BACK TO BACK WORLD CHAMPIONS and the NO1 ranked team
We have “Sam something something” calling Ireland the best .
It’s frustrating
We better win the glam slam thia year given the other teams are not in great Form. Regardless we aint nothing till we get to a world cup final
England won't get into double digits against Ireland....Ireland by 20 against a semi home crowd 😅
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Us normal Irish know we're not the best in the world. The best in the world is SA. All we're doing at the moment is beating underporforming 6 nations teams, that's it. Let's see how the summer goes