Bakers was my first thought, as well. Was there just a few years ago and seemed to be going strong, but not sure how it's faring with the pandemic and all. Definitely worth a re-check, if you do a sequel. Raven Lounge would be a good spot, too. Great to see Bluebird Inn made the cut, though - and it looks like this one will likely be successfully rescued from the ravages of time.
@@rockessentialswithtim710saw E.L.P. at Olympia. Saw B.T.O. at Cobo Hall 1975 and Bob Segar was the opening act. I remember when Rush was an opening act at Cobo I think for The Guess Who.
20 Grand, Cobo, Olympia, Ford Theater, The Chessmate, a mere mention of The Fox, home to many great R&B / Soul concerts. Especially Motown shows. I sat on those stairs waiting to go into The Grande. You can't name them all, but this is a great video. Great research. Would have liked to have seen Jackie Wilson, Hank Ballard places. And The Primes aka The Temps. Mention to Fortune Records & Jack & Devora pressed. United Sound was great. Kudos to Jack for everything. Especially pressing the 69 Ann Arbor Blues Festival Box Set.
Hey all, want to welcome everyone over from our sister channel at Hiking4life! This new vid is very near and dear to me as I spent my formative years growing up in the Motor City. I hope you like it and please feel free to subscribe as we've got some other cool music things lined up.
I guess 25 isn't enough, no Michigan Palace or Harpo's, probably more I can't think of right now. FYI, the first time SRV played in Detroit was at St. Andrews. Great video!
The Michigan Palace was not on the list here but ..oh well but loved the video\ The palace is special for me because it was my first concert ,Bob Seger also saw Spirit with Leslie west and Mountain , Steppen Wolf, many others ... I'll have to go look at my ticket stubs ,I'm 30 mins or less from all those places.Worked for Wonderland Music and delivered a Yamaha DX-7 to Aretha Franklins home. ..answered her door in her robe...LOL Sweet and nice.
That is a great story! I gotta tell you 2 things: When we were driving around filming we stopped at Aretha's house on LaSalle to film from the street and the new owner of the house went absolutely nuts on us. It was actually really funny but it was obvious she didn't want her house in the video so of course we left it be. As far as the Palace goes, it was my first concert ever too! The MC5, Frigid Pink and Roy Buchannan on I think New Years Eve 74? Anyhow, I prolly shoulda put it on there but next time I'll do a top 50!
@@rockessentialswithtim710 Lasalle right , I couldn't remember the name of the street, I was wondering about why she was mentioned but you didn't put her house in the video ..now we know. But all good and thanks for your efforts to make the video!! BTW saw VanHalen with Boston at Masonic Temple ...amazing show!
What an awesome tour. Former Eastsider - worked at the Madison, Clutch Cargo (when it was behind the Fox) and the Punch & Judy. Keep up the great work. I look forward to more.
Small world, Scott. Love your Manson video and I, too, was a regular at Clutch Cargo (Sparks and X, among others) and I saw Rocky Horror at the Punch & Judy. The Red Carpet was my first real music venue, starting around 1976. Jesus, I could talk about this stuff all night.
Nice to see that you mentioned Steve's Place. Steve and his wife were such nice people; I always wondered what happened to his bar after he died. Raise a glass to Steve...a shot of Crown Royal! RIP my friend.
The Who played Grande many times and Led Zep played Grande Ball Room. The Who while touring at The Palace paid tribute to Russ Gibb because he had just passed. They played some nice photage on the giant screens of Russ and The Who at the Grande. The Who were still friends with Mr. Gibb, Townshend was devastated. Nice tribute and great pics.
What an really cool music history video. I lived in Royal Oak for 2 years there’s a club there called Memphis Smoke a blues bar. One night my roommate was in there enjoying a national blues act. At intermission an elderly woman walked on stage whispered something to the lead singer. At that moment all the members of the band grabbed there instruments. The lead singer proudly announced that Etta James wanted to sing a few numbers for the house. If no one minded. My roommate was blown away.
When you mention guitarist Robert White, I'm reminded of a great story involving him and Jas Obrecht, founder and editor of Guitar Player Magazine. In the 1980s, Jas wanted to get an in-depth interview with Robert and get him him on the cover of the magazine. They tracked him down in Detroit and he was really excited and flattered. He felt he was essentially forgotten. They scheduled an interview in a diner. The waitress approaches the table to take their order and what comes over the radio? ....'My Girl'.... Jas notices Robert become agitated. Jas is about to inform the waitress who Robert is when Robert abruptly shushes him. The waitress leaves. Jas says something like "Hey, if I had your resume I'd be telling every stranger I see who I am". Robert says, " Oh, no you wouldn't. Sure, you would have done it at first, but after a while I got sick of nobody believing me and thinking I'm some sort of crackpot. And the last person I'm going to tell is a waitress in a diner, because she'll just think I'm an idiot for using such a bad pick-up line".
Great story. Robert is one of the great examples of someone who played something virtually everyone in the world has heard, but no one know's who it is.
@@rockessentialswithtim710 Yes, and 'My Girl' is only one of the dozens of famous Motown songs Robert played on. And funnily enough, Nile Rodgers had a similar experience at a McDonald's a few years ago. 'We Are Family' was being piped in and when he told the girl behind the counter the song was his, she thought he was just trying to pick her up. Haha!!!!
Nice video. No argument about the places you showcased but seriously, you went up the Cass Corridor and didn't mention Alvin's? 5756 Cass. Doc Watson, Tower of Power, Neville Brothers, Billy Cobham, Buddy Guy and Junior Wells, The Bears (featuring Adrian Belew), and many others played there to just name a few touring acts.I worked there for 10 years. Majestic Theater on Woodward would be another addition.
I know, I prolly should have shot for 50 locations, right? It wouldn't have been that hard. As it was I filmed several other places that didn't make it. I will prolly do some more when I come back this summer, there's just so much great music history there.
Great review. We grew up about an hour North and patronized many of these venues. I am grateful St Andrews, The Fox and The Masonic are still alive and well. Hitsville is a trip!!
My siblings all live north of Detroit now so when I visit I don't often get to Detroit proper. It was a trip to see them again and LaFayette Coney Island downtown was the same as its always been!
Tim as this is a new channel I'd like to suggest a video about who you are and your musical history. Maybe you could have a friend interview you. It would be a great way for the youtube viewers to get to know you and connect.
That;s a weirdly scary proposition but I'm so glad that you suggested it cuz it is something that I am considering (more like grappling with) for the new channel. Cool.
As a transplant TO Detroit, I'm sorry to see so many iconic venues gone. Berry Gordy is rightfully called a visionary, but you have to give credit to Esther Gordy Edwards for recognizing the value of preservation with Hitsville USA/Motown Musuem. Hoping we get to keep United Sound Studios, as well, but not happy with Michigan DOTs insistence on demolishing another shrine of Detroit music. If you ever do a sequel, you might consider adding Baker's Keyboard Lounge, which has had many luminaries play there and claims to be the oldest jazz club in the nation; Orchestra Hall which has doubled as the Paradise Theater; Cliff Bells has been refurbed and regularly hosts jazz performers; Raven Lounge; and 1315 Broadway. Thanks for the video and please keep going with these.
Hey, thanks for the info! There was still so much I could have put in but alas, I had only a day to shoot. I actually went to Baker's on Livernois but it was temporarily shut down, maybe cuz of covid. I saw that they are going to work on the Motown Museum. I'm very happy to see them making upgrades to preserve it, my hope is that they don't turn it into Dollywood. Personally, I'd love to see it turned back into a working recording studio but I see why that wouldn't really make sense.
That's impressive for a single day of shooting. Nice work! Looks like you might have picked up a subscriber or two along the way. I had the same dream as you with respect to Studio A at Hitsville. Sometimes a place just has a perfect sound and that was the place. Saw an attempt to recreate the Motown Sound a few years back. They got close. But, they didn't have Studio A. A good friend works there and has just been blown away with how many/how often people visit - from all over the globe - just to make their pilgrimage to the place and have their pictures taken out front. And, yeah. There's a very good chance Baker's will be back if/when you visit again.
I grew up in metro Detroit. Love this video! My brother mainly has all the music stories. He’s in his 50’s now. Stories like getting wasted on acid and mescaline and seeing Sabbath and Rush at venues in the area. The city looks so different compared to when I lived there! Again, Excellent video!!
Hello Tim! In your piece on "25 Essential Detroit Music Locations," you mention the Gar Wood Mansion briefly. I leased Gar Wood's mansion and estate grounds on the private 50 acre Grey Haven Island on the Detroit River front from Manny Harris (a land developer who was Detroit's former fire commissioner). I leased the 46 room greystone mansion to be a home for myself and Stonefront, the first band I managed after I returned from attending Woodstock in 1969 (my friends Canned Heat were performing there). I was the second lease holder of the mansion, after the initial group of young people living there lost their lease due to developement disputes that Manny Harris was having with a neighbor (I think Mark Hoover was part of that first group). Detroit Free Press staff photographer and photojournalist John Collier documented, with thousands of photos, our roughly two year run as a 24/7 living-breathing Detroit counter-culture center of creative arts and music energies. Many of the "A" list bands that headlined concerts at the Eastown or Grande or Cobo Hall heard about the mansion and came down after their concerts (with Mark Hoover's invitation), some even bringing their own equipment trucks to play at one of the many weekend music concert parties in the mansion's 1000+ capacity ballroom! We were a true Detroit underground counter-culture scene hiding out on front street. Van Morrison, Three Dog Night, Leon Russell, and many, many others played the Gar Wood after their paid gigs in town! A full length documentary film on the Stonefront/Gar Wood Mansion years was in production using John Collier's extensive photojournalism of the mansion's Stonefront-era, and featuring extensive many current interviews of Stonefront's songwriter/guitarist/leader Larry Merryman, myself and others. The English producer of the documentary passed before completing it and the almost finished film tracks now sit idyl in London. I would like to find the financing to finish this fine documentary film, and perhaps expand the film a bit into covering some of the rest of what was happening in the Detroit rock scene during our Gar Wood era, and also putting out a book of John Collier's Gar Wood photos in sync with the finished film's release. If you know anyone who I might speak with about financing (and executive producing?) this film/book project, please contact me at mediamanagement9@yahoo.com I now live in the San Francisco Bay area. After our Stonefront/Gar Wood trip from1970-1972 ended because of a "set up" 25 kilo cannabis bust of the Mansion that was part of the neighbor-Manny Harris ongoing property developement battle, I moved to L.A. to continued my management career. I personal managed such artists as Canned Heat, John Lee Hooker (starting during Martin Scorsese's 2003 released seven feature length PBS film series "The Blues" and then managing the John Lee's estate after he passed in June 2001), Sam Andrew (co-founder/lead guitarist/principle songwriter/music director of Big Brother & The Holding Company/Janis Joplin), Ike Turner (in his 2007 Blues-Grammy winning comeback effort with the album "Risin' With The Blues," shortly before he passed in December of 2007), and others. I am currently managing composer/drummer Greg Anton, a longtime songwriting collaborator of Grateful Dead's principal lyricist Robert Hunter (Hunter, 1941-2019, was inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame as a non-performing member of the Grateful Dead). Greg is currently resurrecting his powerful San Francisco band ZERO with his co-founding partner, the guitarist extraordinaire Steve Kimock. In first quarter 2022 ZERO will be releasing a new album, "Naught Again," made from their 1992 San Francisco Great American Music Hall concert weekend with guests Nicky Hopkins on piano (Rolling Stones, John Lennon, etc.), Vince Welnick on organ/piano (Grateful Dead), Pete Sears on bass (Rod Stewart), amongst others, and with Robert Hunter MCing. Songs on the album include the now eerily timely Robert Hunter/ZERO co-written song "End of the World Blues." ZERO will be touring again, starting with a February 3, 2022 concert at San Francisco's The Fillmore and following with more dates as the new album gets released. eugene skuratowicz mediamanagement9@yahoo.com
Hey Eugene: I'm sorry but I'm just now seeing your message as it was buried in a UA-cam Spam folder. I read all about The Gar Wood Mansion before I shot the video. I was a little young at the time for the Stonefront days but a teenager we used to party in the burned out remains. Although I have recently retired, I worked here in LA as a composer for many TV shows but I was never in on the producer part of it so unfortunately I have no connections when it comes to financing. I for one would LOVE to see a doc on the Detroit Rock scene during those years. I am about to do a little vid on Bluesharp players and one of the people I'm going to talk about is Blind Owl Wilson. Anyway, keep me posted and perhaps we'll get together for coffee when I'm up in SF after this Covid mess has abated. Cool, tim p.
Great video tour. Bruce Springsteen might be an interesting subject. Lav mics might improve the audio indoors with two or more people [something i have been thinking about buying for my own videos]. Looking forward to your videos!
Detriot in the 60ès and 70ès was a rockin place to be with the Motown of the 60s and Mitch Ryder, MC5, Amboy Dukes, Alice Cooper, J. Geils Band, Bob Seger and I could go on and on but many of them bands played hard and loud and put on a great show live. I was told all about it growing up but I was not born until 1979 so I missed it but my Parents and Uncle got to see and hear it all live.
Hello, A Great video here, I went to concerts at the Grande Ballroom, The Eastown theater, when I was in high school,3 of the MC5 went to my Highschool in Lincoln Park, Bob Seger went there for a Year, But A Very Important place was Called Plum Street, That all of the Hippies went down there , they sold the newspaper the 5Th Estate, Plum Street was the place to go, back then, I Guess you never heard of it, ......
That's great. I lived on Belmont somewhere between the 556 and 568 house #'s. It's gone now. This was back in the early 80s. I was born in the mid-50s. My sister at one point dated Melvin Franklin The Temptations in the very early 60s. She graduated from Northern High in 1963. And I think Melvin graduated from Northwestern a few years before.
@@rockessentialswithtim710 Yes those days were precious. I have a few good memories about run-ins directly and indirectly with the Temps and other artists like The Dramatics and Bobby Blue Bland as well which I'll never forget. Thx again for taking us down memory lane Tim. Take care.
Hey Tim, I am so glad you decided to make a channel dedicated to music! Your knowledge and expertise on this topic is so awesome! I am a former musician and I love music so I missed your past vlogs and was always wishing you would do more! So, keep them coming because I and so many others will look forward to watching them!
This sure brings back some memories, thank you! The Grande, where i saw the MC5, The Frost, SRC and other great local bands. The Eastown was the best though, I saw Black Sabbath there after their first album broke. Van Morrison, Mountain, Savoy Brown, all the local greats too, Alice Cooper on their way up. Great drugs there too lol. I loved Masonic. I saw David Bowie in "73, Peter Frampton opened for J. Geils there. Bruce Springsteen, and yes, Bob Marley. The only one you forgot was the Michigan Palace. Bowie during The Thin White Duke era played like 5 nights in a row. That's the only show I saw there I believe. I moved to SoCal in '90, but those were some of the best times of my life.
Great video about my hometown, highlighting many of my regular haunts. Nice to see Lili's is still there and apparently The Red Carpet Lounge is still standing, but no longer in operation. How many shows did I see these places? Bookies, Harpos, Lili's, Clutch Cargo, St. Andrew's Hall, etc. You could rely on Mike Haloran on WDET to spotlight and mention upcoming shows. Keep up the good work, Tim.
Tim , love you're vlogs,especially you're music ones , one on Gram Parsons in LA with the Byrds ,Flying Burritos Bros etc connection would be really cool.Great stuff keep em coming.
Thank you and as I may have mentioned, Gram is on my list somewhere down the line. Maybe now its not so hot here in California it would be a good time to go out to Joshua and do some Ingram stuff.
@@rockessentialswithtim710 Indeed it would , I lived in LA for a few years in the eighties and stupidly never went out to see where it all ended . Happy new year from Ireland.
@@rockessentialswithtim710 "I was reading in Rolling Stone where they said that Detroit audiences are the greatest rock n roll audiences in the world, I thought to myself, shit, Ive known that for 10 years" Bob Segar
Would have liked to have seen Plum Street, but cool to see the "old" Grande Ballroom as we called it in the '60s....there was also Cobo Hall that had concerts...saw CCR there, Booker T and the MGs, The Who and more...but, this was a very cool video....
Thanks. I never made it to Plum Street but I used to hear all about it. Got to see Bob Seger at Cobo on one of the nights he recorded his live album there in 75 I believe it was. Anyways, Detroit still rocks!
Cool....I saw Seeger at The Club in Monroe, along with The Rationals, the Unrelated Segments all the same night for about a buck....yeah, Detroit Rocks! I now publish Guitar International Magazine and perform still....
Hi Tim. Loved the Detroit video and am looking forward to seeing more content. I really love all the genres you have covered in your vids but really loved It when you mentioned the Shelter and Detroit Techno. The states has given the world so many amazing genres of music. Detroit giving us Techno is a gift that keeps on giving. Peace.
Hey Dave. Could have done a whole vid on Detroit Techno, there is a lot of readily available stuff there. Maybe when I go back next year? Anyway, happiest of New Year's to you and yours...
Tim. You forgot to mention that what made the FOX theater famous was that it was the home of the Motown review every year. Groups like the Temptations, Supremes, Stevie Wonder, the Four tops, Smoky Robinson, eetc, etc. were all showcased here every year.. Also, as regards the Eastown Theater, it was a showcase for all the big groups of the late 60's. Groups like Cream, Jethro Tull, Ten Years After, Steve Winwood and Traffic. And on and on........... It was quite an adventure back then.........
Tim, what a BLAST this trip through Motown and Detroit was! I enjoyed#25,#24,#23,... to #1!! You hit all the hot spots and more, and your commentary was enlightening, educational, and humorous. Detriot's got such a rich musical history. Thanks for letting us tag along! ✌️💙🤘
Detroit kicks so much ass it’s hard to believe. And I’m saying this from Chicago, which I love. Something in the water most definitely. Kick out the jams!
A black punk band called 'Death' were from Detroit. They might've been the FIRST punk band. There is a documentary about them and it's well worth watching.
I remember catching Alice Cooper in an old Quansett hut club outside of Hastings Michigan early on in his career. He was pulling heads off dolls and throwing them in the audience then. BTO in an old vaudeville theater downtown. I remember it looking pretty old than. Cruising around town one night bumped into an old neighborhood Vaudeville theater were BB King and Savoy brown we’re paying. Ticket price was only $3.50. The Place was packed to the rafters.
@@rockessentialswithtim710 ya, that rings the bell. Another life ago. There were so many amazing times looking back, Detroit really was Rock City. You know Bob is still around. I use to know where he lived up in Oakland county in the early 2000’s. I did a lot of my landscape design work up in that area. Near Pine Knob and the Palace in Auburn Hills. It would be really cool if you could reminisce with him. You know him and Glen Fry were good friends.
My Dad had a buddy in Detroit before WWII, use to take care of the strippers cloths, dry cleaning, pick up and returning them. Fun job in their early 20’s before they got drafted. They were in the South Pacific with the B-29’s.
I love watching your videos. I had been watching Hiking4Life videos (I live in LA so your episodes really hit home) and came across your video for this channel.
Thank you so much! I really loved doing this Detroit video cuz I grew up there and it was the first time I'd been back to some of those places in almost 40 years!
I saw ELP at the Easttown, 1971. I cannot remember all the others I saw there, but maybe Steppenwolf. Saw tons of groups at the Grande. I was at Masonic to see Hendrix (with MC5 and Soft Machine) when I was not old enough to drive. Other important places for music was the Birmingham Palladium (where I saw the Tony Williams Lifetime, with Jack Bruce and John McLaughlin) and the geodesic dome at Northland Mall (where I saw the Amboy Dukes). You could also have driven into Oak Park to see Doug Fieger's house (he founded the Knack) as well as that of Don Fagenson (better known as Don Was, now president of Blue Note records). I grew up 6 houses from the Fiegers.
@rockessentialswithtim710 today people are not proud to say that they are from Detroit. Years ago you were proud of Motown or the Motorcity, or the Arsenal Of Democracy, or the Rock n Roll Capital or Hitsville, not today. Everybody moved out. 2 million citizens down to 595,000. Sad.
@kenvelickoff4275 years ago bands would start their tour or end their tour in the Motorcity, not today. Even bands that were not from Detroit thought of Detroit as their second home, not today. Now they avoid downtown Detroit.
your videos are awesome! You uncover gems and speak in golden amber for a generation and generations to come. Being a philly boy, have you mined that city? I know there's a John Coltrane House, plus the great Upton theater, around Temple, where Hall and Oates got their start as Temple Students, Bobbie Rydell, all the Philly sound soul groups (Shi-lites, Stylistics). I could go on.
I have not been to Philly for about 20 years. I used to go there often and played at a place called Upstairs At Nick's. I don't know if its still there but I absolutely loved Philly and yes, I look forward to coming there and doing a piece. Cheers!
Tim, you are an eminently illuminating and entertaining rock historian! I Thanks for sharing your fascinating sojourns to SoCal and my hometown Detroit. It was cool hearing about my old friend “Arturo” Lyzak, who’s now in your neck of the woods. Have you considered exploring the L.A. places from Bowie’s time there in the 70s? Lots of stories of occult delusions by the Great White Duke, including the notorious boiling swimming pool.
I have never heard about the boiling swimming pool, I'll have to check it out. I think doing the Bowie thing would be awesome. Loved revisiting Hamtramck, used to visit my Polish grandparents there often.
This was really cool, I'm from Michigan and lived in the D when I was little then my parents moved to the burbs lol I've seen a few of those places, but a couple I never heard of, thanks for the tour. You brought back some good memories for me! I sub'd! ✌️🎸🎷🎵
Thanks much. I have been spending my time at my other channel Rock Essentials with Tim so if you haven't checked it out, please be my guest. Thanks for the cool comment!
It's kinda sickening to see places like the Grande in such disrepair. Thanx for mentioning Bookies. I would like to have heard more about Bookies and Paychecks.
@@rockessentialswithtim710 Sorry but the 5 has already broken up before it opened as a music venue. Saw Aerosmith back up the New York dolls their a million years ago!! Fun Fact ; Henry Ford made his first car at the same location! Thank you so much for posting!
@@larryhall7998 Your welcome and thanks for the comment! But I just have to say, I remember my first concert ever and it was The MC5, Frigid Pink and Roy Buchannan at the Michigan Palace. Maybe they were reformed or something, but it was def the bill I saw. This would have probably been New Years Eve in 74 or 75.
Surprised you skipped the State Theater (think it's called the Fillmore now) right next to the Fox Theater. Saw The Pixies reunite there in the 2000s. Place had some great acoustics.
What I love is the 3 name abbreviation one thing m a fro delco pa ! Were the first duo of gen x age and when created new metal punk also comes from there sorry mid west
Hey Tim, Just subscribed; this is great! Would you liken “The Shelter” to “First Avenue & 7th Street Entry” in Minneapolis? Please do a bio of yourself; pardon my ignorance. Best always!🎼🎤🎶🎸🎼🎤🎶🎼…
Hey Rebecca, how goes it? A couple of things about The Shelter. Although I reported on it and have been to St. Andrew's Hall upstairs, I have never actually attended a show at The Shelter. I have never been to First Avenue in Minneapolis either although I have had the good fortune to see Prince play and actually meet him for a few brief seconds once. My fave Minneapolis band is The Replacements. They had the good sense to name one of their albums "Tim"....
I was born and raised in the city of Detroit til I was 19. I now live in Los Angeles but still have a lot of family there and get back at least once a year.
Detroit. Where Rock and Roll Started!
Great stuff a few notable omissions, Baker's Keyboard Lounge, Vanity Ballroom,
Olympia !!!
Actually went to Baker's but it was closed and didn't make the cut. Olympia would have been cool. The Vanity? Wow haven't heard that for years!
Bakers was my first thought, as well. Was there just a few years ago and seemed to be going strong, but not sure how it's faring with the pandemic and all. Definitely worth a re-check, if you do a sequel. Raven Lounge would be a good spot, too. Great to see Bluebird Inn made the cut, though - and it looks like this one will likely be successfully rescued from the ravages of time.
@@rockessentialswithtim710saw E.L.P. at Olympia. Saw B.T.O. at Cobo Hall 1975 and Bob Segar was the opening act. I remember when Rush was an opening act at Cobo I think for The Guess Who.
20 Grand, Cobo, Olympia, Ford Theater, The Chessmate, a mere mention of The Fox, home to many great R&B / Soul concerts. Especially Motown shows. I sat on those stairs waiting to go into The Grande. You can't name them all, but this is a great video. Great research. Would have liked to have seen Jackie Wilson, Hank Ballard places. And The Primes aka The Temps. Mention to Fortune Records & Jack & Devora pressed. United Sound was great. Kudos to Jack for everything. Especially pressing the 69 Ann Arbor Blues Festival Box Set.
@@trajan6927I saw the original dark side of the moon tour at Olimpia I believe in June 1973. I wish I saw ELP there as well.
Hey all, want to welcome everyone over from our sister channel at Hiking4life! This new vid is very near and dear to me as I spent my formative years growing up in the Motor City. I hope you like it and please feel free to subscribe as we've got some other cool music things lined up.
Tim, This is what I am talking about in my above comment. You grew up in Motor City!, that should be part of your intro video or stand alone video.
Enjoyed immensely Tim! Look forward to more 👍✌️💙🤘
I guess 25 isn't enough, no Michigan Palace or Harpo's, probably more I can't think of right now. FYI, the first time SRV played in Detroit was at St. Andrews. Great video!
I know right? The first concert I ever went to was MC5 and Frigid Pink at the Michigan Palace.
I agree.michigan palace saw many concerts.ford auditorium?roxy music babe ruth robin Trower king crimson average white band etc.
The Michigan Palace was not on the list here but ..oh well but loved the video\ The palace is special for me because it was my first concert ,Bob Seger also saw Spirit with Leslie west and Mountain , Steppen Wolf, many others ... I'll have to go look at my ticket stubs ,I'm 30 mins or less from all those places.Worked for Wonderland Music and delivered a Yamaha DX-7 to Aretha Franklins home. ..answered her door in her robe...LOL Sweet and nice.
That is a great story! I gotta tell you 2 things: When we were driving around filming we stopped at Aretha's house on LaSalle to film from the street and the new owner of the house went absolutely nuts on us. It was actually really funny but it was obvious she didn't want her house in the video so of course we left it be. As far as the Palace goes, it was my first concert ever too! The MC5, Frigid Pink and Roy Buchannan on I think New Years Eve 74? Anyhow, I prolly shoulda put it on there but next time I'll do a top 50!
@@rockessentialswithtim710 Lasalle right , I couldn't remember the name of the street, I was wondering about why she was mentioned but you didn't put her house in the video ..now we know. But all good and thanks for your efforts to make the video!! BTW saw VanHalen with Boston at Masonic Temple ...amazing show!
St Andrew's Hall.... 3 floors of fun.
Second to none for great bands during the 80's through the 90's....👍🏻
What an awesome tour. Former Eastsider - worked at the Madison, Clutch Cargo (when it was behind the Fox) and the Punch & Judy. Keep up the great work. I look forward to more.
Thanks much! I remember Clutch Cargo and I used to go to the Punch & Judy to see the Rocky Horror Picture Show.
Small world, Scott. Love your Manson video and I, too, was a regular at Clutch Cargo (Sparks and X, among others) and I saw Rocky Horror at the Punch & Judy. The Red Carpet was my first real music venue, starting around 1976. Jesus, I could talk about this stuff all night.
Nice to see that you mentioned Steve's Place. Steve and his wife were such nice people; I always wondered what happened to his bar after he died. Raise a glass to Steve...a shot of Crown Royal! RIP my friend.
I never got to meet him but I heard about them from so many people that it had to be included. Here's to Steve!
I should also like to thank my BFF Bill for driving me around. Treating you to LaFayette Coney's was the least I could do!
The Who played Grande many times and Led Zep played Grande Ball Room. The Who while touring at The Palace paid tribute to Russ Gibb because he had just passed. They played some nice photage on the giant screens of Russ and The Who at the Grande. The Who were still friends with Mr. Gibb, Townshend was devastated. Nice tribute and great pics.
@@trajan6927 Great info, thanks!
@@rockessentialswithtim710 "Detroit! WE HOLD THE ROCK n ROLL" Bob Segar.
@@rockessentialswithtim710 "I thought to myself, shit, I've known that for 10 years" Bob Segar
Eastsider myself!! Just discovered your channel, love it! Great episodes! Spending the day catching as many episodes as possible!
What an really cool music history video. I lived in Royal Oak for 2 years there’s a club there called Memphis Smoke a blues bar. One night my roommate was in there enjoying a national blues act. At intermission an elderly woman walked on stage whispered something to the lead singer. At that moment all the members of the band grabbed there instruments. The lead singer proudly announced that Etta James wanted to sing a few numbers for the house. If no one minded. My roommate was blown away.
Wow! I was just watching her in the Muscle Shoals Documentary last night. What a voice!
PS: I think Etta James really mellowed with age. Next to Aretha I really can't think of anyone better.
Yes I think she did too. If you haven’t already watch her performance at Monterey Pop she was fantastic
I have not seen it, except for the Hendrix parts in years and years. I'll flag it next time it comes on. Thanx!
@@rockessentialswithtim710I loved the Muscle Shoals sound.
When you mention guitarist Robert White, I'm reminded of a great story involving him and Jas Obrecht, founder and editor of Guitar Player Magazine.
In the 1980s, Jas wanted to get an in-depth interview with Robert and get him him on the cover of the magazine. They tracked him down in Detroit and he was really excited and flattered. He felt he was essentially forgotten.
They scheduled an interview in a diner.
The waitress approaches the table to take their order and what comes over the radio? ....'My Girl'....
Jas notices Robert become agitated. Jas is about to inform the waitress who Robert is when Robert abruptly shushes him. The waitress leaves. Jas says something like "Hey, if I had your resume I'd be telling every stranger I see who I am".
Robert says, " Oh, no you wouldn't. Sure, you would have done it at first, but after a while I got sick of nobody believing me and thinking I'm some sort of crackpot. And the last person I'm going to tell is a waitress in a diner, because she'll just think I'm an idiot for using such a bad pick-up line".
Great story. Robert is one of the great examples of someone who played something virtually everyone in the world has heard, but no one know's who it is.
@@rockessentialswithtim710 Yes, and 'My Girl' is only one of the dozens of famous Motown songs Robert played on.
And funnily enough, Nile Rodgers had a similar experience at a McDonald's a few years ago. 'We Are Family' was being piped in and when he told the girl behind the counter the song was his, she thought he was just trying to pick her up. Haha!!!!
Nice video. No argument about the places you showcased but seriously, you went up the Cass Corridor and didn't mention Alvin's? 5756 Cass. Doc Watson, Tower of Power, Neville Brothers, Billy Cobham, Buddy Guy and Junior Wells, The Bears (featuring Adrian Belew), and many others played there to just name a few touring acts.I worked there for 10 years. Majestic Theater on Woodward would be another addition.
I know, I prolly should have shot for 50 locations, right? It wouldn't have been that hard. As it was I filmed several other places that didn't make it. I will prolly do some more when I come back this summer, there's just so much great music history there.
@@rockessentialswithtim710 sounds good. Thanks for doing it!
The Michigan Palace downtown and the Palladium in Birmingham are two notable omissions here.
Great review. We grew up about an hour North and patronized many of these venues. I am grateful St Andrews, The Fox and The Masonic are still alive and well. Hitsville is a trip!!
My siblings all live north of Detroit now so when I visit I don't often get to Detroit proper. It was a trip to see them again and LaFayette Coney Island downtown was the same as its always been!
Thank you i enjoyed that greatly played at a few places myself
Cool. In what decade did you play?
my husband played guitar they played those places around 2009 lots of biker club around detroit too great times
Tim as this is a new channel I'd like to suggest a video about who you are and your musical history. Maybe you could have a friend interview you. It would be a great way for the youtube viewers to get to know you and connect.
I second this!!
That;s a weirdly scary proposition but I'm so glad that you suggested it cuz it is something that I am considering (more like grappling with) for the new channel. Cool.
I concur!
Yes! C'mon Tim, I would love for you to produce your own Behind The Music episode, it is essential! Don't leave anything out!
very cool video tour 👍 Cheers Tim ✌️
Thanks 👍
As a transplant TO Detroit, I'm sorry to see so many iconic venues gone. Berry Gordy is rightfully called a visionary, but you have to give credit to Esther Gordy Edwards for recognizing the value of preservation with Hitsville USA/Motown Musuem. Hoping we get to keep United Sound Studios, as well, but not happy with Michigan DOTs insistence on demolishing another shrine of Detroit music. If you ever do a sequel, you might consider adding Baker's Keyboard Lounge, which has had many luminaries play there and claims to be the oldest jazz club in the nation; Orchestra Hall which has doubled as the Paradise Theater; Cliff Bells has been refurbed and regularly hosts jazz performers; Raven Lounge; and 1315 Broadway. Thanks for the video and please keep going with these.
Hey, thanks for the info! There was still so much I could have put in but alas, I had only a day to shoot. I actually went to Baker's on Livernois but it was temporarily shut down, maybe cuz of covid. I saw that they are going to work on the Motown Museum. I'm very happy to see them making upgrades to preserve it, my hope is that they don't turn it into Dollywood. Personally, I'd love to see it turned back into a working recording studio but I see why that wouldn't really make sense.
That's impressive for a single day of shooting. Nice work! Looks like you might have picked up a subscriber or two along the way. I had the same dream as you with respect to Studio A at Hitsville. Sometimes a place just has a perfect sound and that was the place. Saw an attempt to recreate the Motown Sound a few years back. They got close. But, they didn't have Studio A. A good friend works there and has just been blown away with how many/how often people visit - from all over the globe - just to make their pilgrimage to the place and have their pictures taken out front. And, yeah. There's a very good chance Baker's will be back if/when you visit again.
Fantastic...cheers from the UK
Thank you! Cheers!
Too cool , thanks Tim . I only knew of a few of those places.
Fantastic! Thx Tim
Right on, thanks!
Tim ... Well done!! Really enjoyed your trip through Detroit. Great idea about createing another site, will be sure to follow both!
Thanks much for that. Would love to travel to a few more places and film after this Omnicrom dies down.
Tried using the KISS Army card to get a drink 😂😂😂
Good stuff Tim, love your rock history tours. Hey I did a search and it’s not too late to call the new channel “Rockin for Life”
Cheers
I grew up in metro Detroit. Love this video! My brother mainly has all the music stories. He’s in his 50’s now. Stories like getting wasted on acid and mescaline and seeing Sabbath and Rush at venues in the area. The city looks so different compared to when I lived there! Again, Excellent video!!
I think being from Detroit is a badge of honor that anyone from there gets to wear. Thanks for the comment and Happy New Year!
Hello Tim!
In your piece on "25 Essential Detroit Music Locations," you mention the Gar Wood Mansion briefly.
I leased Gar Wood's mansion and estate grounds on the private 50 acre Grey Haven Island on the Detroit River front from Manny Harris (a land developer who was Detroit's former fire commissioner). I leased the 46 room greystone mansion to be a home for myself and Stonefront, the first band I managed after I returned from attending Woodstock in 1969 (my friends Canned Heat were performing there). I was the second lease holder of the mansion, after the initial group of young people living there lost their lease due to developement disputes that Manny Harris was having with a neighbor (I think Mark Hoover was part of that first group).
Detroit Free Press staff photographer and photojournalist John Collier documented, with thousands of photos, our roughly two year run as a 24/7 living-breathing Detroit counter-culture center of creative arts and music energies. Many of the "A" list bands that headlined concerts at the Eastown or Grande or Cobo Hall heard about the mansion and came down after their concerts (with Mark Hoover's invitation), some even bringing their own equipment trucks to play at one of the many weekend music concert parties in the mansion's 1000+ capacity ballroom! We were a true Detroit underground counter-culture scene hiding out on front street. Van Morrison, Three Dog Night, Leon Russell, and many, many others played the Gar Wood after their paid gigs in town!
A full length documentary film on the Stonefront/Gar Wood Mansion years was in production using John Collier's extensive photojournalism of the mansion's Stonefront-era, and featuring extensive many current interviews of Stonefront's songwriter/guitarist/leader Larry Merryman, myself and others. The English producer of the documentary passed before completing it and the almost finished film tracks now sit idyl in London.
I would like to find the financing to finish this fine documentary film, and perhaps expand the film a bit into covering some of the rest of what was happening in the Detroit rock scene during our Gar Wood era, and also putting out a book of John Collier's Gar Wood photos in sync with the finished film's release.
If you know anyone who I might speak with about financing (and executive producing?) this film/book project, please contact me at mediamanagement9@yahoo.com I now live in the San Francisco Bay area.
After our Stonefront/Gar Wood trip from1970-1972 ended because of a "set up" 25 kilo cannabis bust of the Mansion that was part of the neighbor-Manny Harris ongoing property developement battle, I moved to L.A. to continued my management career.
I personal managed such artists as Canned Heat, John Lee Hooker (starting during Martin Scorsese's 2003 released seven feature length PBS film series "The Blues" and then managing the John Lee's estate after he passed in June 2001), Sam Andrew (co-founder/lead guitarist/principle songwriter/music director of Big Brother & The Holding Company/Janis Joplin), Ike Turner (in his 2007 Blues-Grammy winning comeback effort with the album "Risin' With The Blues," shortly before he passed in December of 2007), and others.
I am currently managing composer/drummer Greg Anton, a longtime songwriting collaborator of Grateful Dead's principal lyricist Robert Hunter (Hunter, 1941-2019, was inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame as a non-performing member of the Grateful Dead). Greg is currently resurrecting his powerful San Francisco band ZERO with his co-founding partner, the guitarist extraordinaire Steve Kimock.
In first quarter 2022 ZERO will be releasing a new album, "Naught Again," made from their 1992 San Francisco Great American Music Hall concert weekend with guests Nicky Hopkins on piano (Rolling Stones, John Lennon, etc.), Vince Welnick on organ/piano (Grateful Dead), Pete Sears on bass (Rod Stewart), amongst others, and with Robert Hunter MCing. Songs on the album include the now eerily timely Robert Hunter/ZERO co-written song "End of the World Blues."
ZERO will be touring again, starting with a February 3, 2022 concert at San Francisco's The Fillmore and following with more dates as the new album gets released.
eugene skuratowicz
mediamanagement9@yahoo.com
Hey Eugene: I'm sorry but I'm just now seeing your message as it was buried in a UA-cam Spam folder. I read all about The Gar Wood Mansion before I shot the video. I was a little young at the time for the Stonefront days but a teenager we used to party in the burned out remains. Although I have recently retired, I worked here in LA as a composer for many TV shows but I was never in on the producer part of it so unfortunately I have no connections when it comes to financing. I for one would LOVE to see a doc on the Detroit Rock scene during those years. I am about to do a little vid on Bluesharp players and one of the people I'm going to talk about is Blind Owl Wilson. Anyway, keep me posted and perhaps we'll get together for coffee when I'm up in SF after this Covid mess has abated.
Cool,
tim p.
what a great walk down music history. Thanks.
Great video tour. Bruce Springsteen might be an interesting subject. Lav mics might improve the audio indoors with two or more people [something i have been thinking about buying for my own videos]. Looking forward to your videos!
I appreciate your including the addresses of the location.
Brilliant. Loved it. A musical history lesson. 🇬🇧👍
Thanks again my friend!
Nice one 🤘🏻
Great episode. Very inspiring. Makes me wanna go to some of those places in person. Thanks for creating this.
I loved doing it, totally my pleasure.
Come on I’ll show you around!
Detriot in the 60ès and 70ès was a rockin place to be with the Motown of the 60s and Mitch Ryder, MC5, Amboy Dukes, Alice Cooper, J. Geils Band, Bob Seger and I could go on and on but many of them bands played hard and loud and put on a great show live. I was told all about it growing up but I was not born until 1979 so I missed it but my Parents and Uncle got to see and hear it all live.
The mighty Who, Kiss, J.Geils, Aerosmith all loved Detroit.
Great as always.
Thoroughly enjoyable! More please.
Thanks for this! Nice way to start a new year!
Happy new year!
Hello, A Great video here, I went to concerts at the Grande Ballroom, The Eastown theater, when I was in high school,3 of the MC5 went to my Highschool in Lincoln Park, Bob Seger went there for a Year, But A Very Important place was Called Plum Street, That all of the Hippies went down there , they sold the newspaper the 5Th Estate, Plum Street was the place to go, back then, I Guess you never heard of it, ......
So cool, YES I remember Plum Street. Thanks for bringing it back to our attention!
Go Tim! Love it!
That's great. I lived on Belmont somewhere between the 556 and 568 house #'s. It's gone now. This was back in the early 80s. I was born in the mid-50s. My sister at one point dated Melvin Franklin The Temptations in the very early 60s. She graduated from Northern High in 1963. And I think Melvin graduated from Northwestern a few years before.
That is too cool! I gotta say, I thought the neighborhood was holding up pretty good. I miss all the elm trees though!
@@rockessentialswithtim710 Yes those days were precious. I have a few good memories about run-ins directly and indirectly with the Temps and other artists like The Dramatics and Bobby Blue Bland as well which I'll never forget. Thx again for taking us down memory lane Tim. Take care.
St Andrews Hall, Harpo's, and the old State theatre, (now the Fillmore) best local venues in the Motor City
Hey Tim, I am so glad you decided to make a channel dedicated to music! Your knowledge and expertise on this topic is so awesome! I am a former musician and I love music so I missed your past vlogs and was always wishing you would do more! So, keep them coming because I and so many others will look forward to watching them!
Thank you Nick for completely making my day!!
Groovy! Thanks for the tour! 😎
Just like driving through the neighborhood I grew up in seeing this makes me realize just how much shit changes in a life time...
I hear ya!
Too cool and nice job putting this together! Glad I found this on UA-cam!!!
This sure brings back some memories, thank you! The Grande, where i saw the MC5, The Frost, SRC and other great local bands. The Eastown was the best though, I saw Black Sabbath there after their first album broke. Van Morrison, Mountain, Savoy Brown, all the local greats too, Alice Cooper on their way up. Great drugs there too lol. I loved Masonic. I saw David Bowie in "73, Peter Frampton opened for J. Geils there. Bruce Springsteen, and yes, Bob Marley. The only one you forgot was the Michigan Palace. Bowie during The Thin White Duke era played like 5 nights in a row. That's the only show I saw there I believe. I moved to SoCal in '90, but those were some of the best times of my life.
Really cool stuff Tim. Can wait for more videos. Always enjoyed your work. Keep it up.
Thanks, Henry. Always good to hear from you.
Great video about my hometown, highlighting many of my regular haunts. Nice to see Lili's is still there and apparently The Red Carpet Lounge is still standing, but no longer in operation. How many shows did I see these places? Bookies, Harpos, Lili's, Clutch Cargo, St. Andrew's Hall, etc. You could rely on Mike Haloran on WDET to spotlight and mention upcoming shows. Keep up the good work, Tim.
Thanks. Way back in the day I spent a little too much time at The Carpet. The drinking age was 18 in those days!
@@rockessentialswithtim710 For me also, the drinking age was 18. I was at The Red Carpet most weekends between 75-79.
I lived in Monroe Michigan & saw many of the greats at the Grande Ballroom 👍
Tim , love you're vlogs,especially you're music ones , one on Gram Parsons in LA with the Byrds ,Flying Burritos Bros etc connection would be really cool.Great stuff keep em coming.
Thank you and as I may have mentioned, Gram is on my list somewhere down the line. Maybe now its not so hot here in California it would be a good time to go out to Joshua and do some Ingram stuff.
@@rockessentialswithtim710 Indeed it would , I lived in LA for a few years in the eighties and stupidly never went out to see where it all ended . Happy new year from Ireland.
Great summation of my hometown!
Thoroughly enjoyed the two of you showing the drive around town as well!
Thanks much. It was totally my pleasure. I haven't lived there for over 40 years but it will always be my home town as well!
@@rockessentialswithtim710 "I was reading in Rolling Stone where they said that Detroit audiences are the greatest rock n roll audiences in the world, I thought to myself, shit, Ive known that for 10 years" Bob Segar
Would have liked to have seen Plum Street, but cool to see the "old" Grande Ballroom as we called it in the '60s....there was also Cobo Hall that had concerts...saw CCR there, Booker T and the MGs, The Who and more...but, this was a very cool video....
Thanks. I never made it to Plum Street but I used to hear all about it. Got to see Bob Seger at Cobo on one of the nights he recorded his live album there in 75 I believe it was. Anyways, Detroit still rocks!
Cool....I saw Seeger at The Club in Monroe, along with The Rationals, the Unrelated Segments all the same night for about a buck....yeah, Detroit Rocks! I now publish Guitar International Magazine and perform still....
Hi Tim. Loved the Detroit video and am looking forward to seeing more content. I really love all the genres you have covered in your vids but really loved It when you mentioned the Shelter and Detroit Techno. The states has given the world so many amazing genres of music. Detroit giving us Techno is a gift that keeps on giving. Peace.
Hey Dave. Could have done a whole vid on Detroit Techno, there is a lot of readily available stuff there. Maybe when I go back next year? Anyway, happiest of New Year's to you and yours...
@@rockessentialswithtim710 Happy New Year to you and your family too man.
Tim. You forgot to mention that what made the FOX theater famous was that it was the home of the Motown review every year. Groups like the Temptations, Supremes, Stevie Wonder, the Four tops, Smoky Robinson, eetc, etc. were all showcased here every year.. Also, as regards the Eastown Theater, it was a showcase for all the big groups of the late 60's. Groups like Cream, Jethro Tull, Ten Years After, Steve Winwood and Traffic. And on and on........... It was quite an adventure back then.........
Oops. It was a rather hectic day and I had just eaten at LaFayette so I was still in a chili coma. But thanks for setting things straight.
@@rockessentialswithtim710 No worries mate. I'm an old Motown Hippie who also got to spend some time in southern Cal....
Hello from Flint!!
Hey Flint! I played in Flint maybe 25 years ago but I can't for the life of me remember where. I have family not too far away in Clarkston.
Awesome music history! Thanks Tim. Keep it coming!!
Right on, thank you!
Tim, what a BLAST this trip through Motown and Detroit was! I enjoyed#25,#24,#23,... to #1!! You hit all the hot spots and more, and your commentary was enlightening, educational, and humorous. Detriot's got such a rich musical history. Thanks for letting us tag along! ✌️💙🤘
Glad you enjoyed it
Saw Ten Years After, Joe Cocker, Traffic, and Procol Harum at the Eastside Theater- great venue.
I just discovered this today. Thank you, Tim, for the kind words.
You earned them, my friend!
Detroit kicks so much ass it’s hard to believe. And I’m saying this from Chicago, which I love. Something in the water most definitely. Kick out the jams!
Absolutely loving this stuff tim...just joined i can already tell that this will be my favorite channel....great work with educational content!
Thanks. I might add that you're setting that bar a might high for me :)
Excellent history! Many magnificent memories! Thank you!
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Being from Detroit it was an absolute pleasure making this vid. Thank you!
A black punk band called 'Death' were from Detroit. They might've been the FIRST punk band. There is a documentary about them and it's well worth watching.
Going back home to remember our younger days. 👍 Are you going to be doing more from Detroit? Grave sites ? 🤷♂️
I love it!
Thoroughly enjoying your videos, thank you so much. Hope you n family are doing well ❤
Thank you!
I remember catching Alice Cooper in an old Quansett hut club outside of Hastings Michigan early on in his career. He was pulling heads off dolls and throwing them in the audience then. BTO in an old vaudeville theater downtown. I remember it looking pretty old than. Cruising around town one night bumped into an old neighborhood Vaudeville theater were BB King and Savoy brown we’re paying. Ticket price was only $3.50. The Place was packed to the rafters.
Lots of cool music happened there for sure. My guess is the old vaudville theater was The Michigan Palace?
@@rockessentialswithtim710 ya, that rings the bell. Another life ago. There were so many amazing times looking back, Detroit really was Rock City. You know Bob is still around. I use to know where he lived up in Oakland county in the early 2000’s. I did a lot of my landscape design work up in that area. Near Pine Knob and the Palace in Auburn Hills. It would be really cool if you could reminisce with him. You know him and Glen Fry were good friends.
My Dad had a buddy in Detroit before WWII, use to take care of the strippers cloths, dry cleaning, pick up and returning them. Fun job in their early 20’s before they got drafted. They were in the South Pacific with the B-29’s.
I've been to many of these venues and places, im going to visit the one i haven't now i know about them, great episode Tim!
I love watching your videos. I had been watching Hiking4Life videos (I live in LA so your episodes really hit home) and came across your video for this channel.
Thank you so much! I really loved doing this Detroit video cuz I grew up there and it was the first time I'd been back to some of those places in almost 40 years!
I saw ELP at the Easttown, 1971. I cannot remember all the others I saw there, but maybe Steppenwolf. Saw tons of groups at the Grande. I was at Masonic to see Hendrix (with MC5 and Soft Machine) when I was not old enough to drive. Other important places for music was the Birmingham Palladium (where I saw the Tony Williams Lifetime, with Jack Bruce and John McLaughlin) and the geodesic dome at Northland Mall (where I saw the Amboy Dukes). You could also have driven into Oak Park to see Doug Fieger's house (he founded the Knack) as well as that of Don Fagenson (better known as Don Was, now president of Blue Note records). I grew up 6 houses from the Fiegers.
Glad that you came to my town!
Another home run video. What a great channel you have, thanks for the rides ✌🏻
Thank you! I really loved doing this vid as Motown is my Hometown.
Born and raised, GREAT history lesson, Awesome stuff
Its the greatest place in America to be from.
@rockessentialswithtim710 today people are not proud to say that they are from Detroit. Years ago you were proud of Motown or the Motorcity, or the Arsenal Of Democracy, or the Rock n Roll Capital or Hitsville, not today. Everybody moved out. 2 million citizens down to 595,000. Sad.
@kenvelickoff4275 years ago bands would start their tour or end their tour in the Motorcity, not today. Even bands that were not from Detroit thought of Detroit as their second home, not today. Now they avoid downtown Detroit.
Where's the Rooster Tail? Three floors of music. And some great acts played there. Unforgivable.
Thanks for the photo credit 😎
All props to you, sir!
your videos are awesome! You uncover gems and speak in golden amber for a generation and generations to come. Being a philly boy, have you mined that city? I know there's a John Coltrane House, plus the great Upton theater, around Temple, where Hall and Oates got their start as Temple Students, Bobbie Rydell, all the Philly sound soul groups (Shi-lites, Stylistics). I could go on.
I have not been to Philly for about 20 years. I used to go there often and played at a place called Upstairs At Nick's. I don't know if its still there but I absolutely loved Philly and yes, I look forward to coming there and doing a piece. Cheers!
Tim, you are an eminently illuminating and entertaining rock historian! I Thanks for sharing your fascinating sojourns to SoCal and my hometown Detroit. It was cool hearing about my old friend “Arturo” Lyzak, who’s now in your neck of the woods. Have you considered exploring the L.A. places from Bowie’s time there in the 70s? Lots of stories of occult delusions by the Great White Duke, including the notorious boiling swimming pool.
I have never heard about the boiling swimming pool, I'll have to check it out. I think doing the Bowie thing would be awesome. Loved revisiting Hamtramck, used to visit my Polish grandparents there often.
Fortune Records would’ve been worth a mention. The Motown pre-cursor
I saw the RHCP at st andrews in the 80’s
This was really cool, I'm from Michigan and lived in the D when I was little then my parents moved to the burbs lol I've seen a few of those places, but a couple I never heard of, thanks for the tour. You brought back some good memories for me! I sub'd! ✌️🎸🎷🎵
Right on, thanks. I haven't lived there for years but I try to get back every now and then.
@@rockessentialswithtim710 same! Happy New Year! ✌️
@@angelwalker3260 You too.... And Go Lions!
@@rockessentialswithtim710 the ever disappointing Lions 🤣if for some strange miracle they beat GB next week they might get back in my good graces 🏈🤣
Totally enjoying this video Tim! Binge watching Rock Legacy with Tim 🤘🏼
Thanks much. I have been spending my time at my other channel Rock Essentials with Tim so if you haven't checked it out, please be my guest. Thanks for the cool comment!
Thank you. Enjoyed it very much!!
awesome subject!
Detroit is very close to my heart!
@@rockessentialswithtim710 Its akin to the 2nd chapter of Memphis. Great stories and such a terribly underrated city imo.
It's kinda sickening to see places like the Grande in such disrepair.
Thanx for mentioning Bookies. I would like to have heard more about Bookies and Paychecks.
Don't forget The Michigan Palace. I think it was on Bagley.
I know, I didn't have time to look for it. I saw my first concert ever there, The MC5.
I saw Fleetwood Mac and BTO there. I think it's a parking garage now.
I knew Russ Gibb
@@rockessentialswithtim710 Sorry but the 5 has already broken up before it opened as a music venue. Saw Aerosmith back up the New York dolls their a million years ago!! Fun Fact ; Henry Ford made his first car at the same location! Thank you so much for posting!
@@larryhall7998 Your welcome and thanks for the comment! But I just have to say, I remember my first concert ever and it was The MC5, Frigid Pink and Roy Buchannan at the Michigan Palace. Maybe they were reformed or something, but it was def the bill I saw. This would have probably been New Years Eve in 74 or 75.
I went to a lot of raves at the Eastown theater. 😂😂
Thanks!
Surprised you skipped the State Theater (think it's called the Fillmore now) right next to the Fox Theater. Saw The Pixies reunite there in the 2000s. Place had some great acoustics.
The Grande Ballroom is up for sale
What I love is the 3 name abbreviation one thing m a fro delco pa ! Were the first duo of gen x age and when created new metal punk also comes from there sorry mid west
Hey Tim,
Just subscribed; this is great! Would you liken “The Shelter” to “First Avenue & 7th Street Entry” in Minneapolis? Please do a bio of yourself; pardon my ignorance. Best always!🎼🎤🎶🎸🎼🎤🎶🎼…
Hey Rebecca, how goes it? A couple of things about The Shelter. Although I reported on it and have been to St. Andrew's Hall upstairs, I have never actually attended a show at The Shelter. I have never been to First Avenue in Minneapolis either although I have had the good fortune to see Prince play and actually meet him for a few brief seconds once. My fave Minneapolis band is The Replacements. They had the good sense to name one of their albums "Tim"....
I to Go to the Locker room in Utica
What about the Cinderella Ballroom? J. Giels recorded Full House, their first live record there….
you missed the Jazz Club Bakers Keyboard on 8 Mile, The Birmingham Pub and The Hideout #2 in Clawson. Otherwise way cool thanks for the memories.
Thanks! We actually went to Bakers but it was closed at the time cuz of Covid.
like what your doing great program! are you from the Michigan area?
I was born and raised in the city of Detroit til I was 19. I now live in Los Angeles but still have a lot of family there and get back at least once a year.
Michigan Palace, BOOKIES LOUNGE.
The Fillmore, or I think it used to be called the State theater..
'Motor City's Burning - Detroit from Motown to the Stooges', a UA-cam video about Detroit music.
Aka: “The Entry”, underneath 1st Av?
No mention of the Michigan Palace????
I played at Lili’s!
Its still got a cool vibe. Did you ever play Bookies?
@@rockessentialswithtim710 yes, but not as memorable for some reason.