Professors of Color Leaving UNC in Response to Nikole Hannah-Jones' Tenure Controversy
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- Marc Lamont Hill sits down with three University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill professors of color, Dr. Gloria Thomas, Dr. Kia Caldwell and Dr. Sharon Holland. They talk about Nikole Hannah-Jones announcing she will not join UNC without tenure, and the exodus of professors and staff because of its decision not to offer Hannah-Jones tenure.
Thomas said she made the decision to leave the school before the controversy but that she is "embarrassed" to be part of UNC.
"It doesn't feel good to be a part of this institution," Thomas says.
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I don't think it is about her credentials. It is her ideology.
As if her "ideology" had any foundation in reality.
Roger that! There's been enough racist rhetoric, she only puts fuel to the flames.
Shes not even fully black
@@mostlyscifi whose fully anything in America?
What is her ideology?
I lived in Durham and worked at UNC....all the black athletes should leave and go right up the street to NC Central HBCU...I'm sure they would be welcome...
Why should they leave?
@@williammorrison6311 Why should they say?
Are you listening young black Athletes. HBCU needs you.
Hell yeah bro....we must redirect ourselves towards our institutions!
And another thing have u ever thought that those very same universities will recruit young black men/women, visit them, offer them cars, money ect but if you are a honor roll student you have to apply to that school and hope they accept you!?
Right! Let those universities that want to stay white hold their own nutts in sports. They won't even get agents to come to their games searching for talent. They will have to be lured there with money or something and the school will be laughed at in the circuit! Lol!
@@abdulraheem415 I played D1 for 4 years, played NBA, Europe, and Japan. Not all schools are offering what your saying. I have no idea what you're talking about.
@@TChalla007 u don't understand because u were not recruited! But if u want to understand read the book called 40 million dollar slaves... better yet if u don't like reading u can get it on audiobooks too...he explained how it worked and works today...I could go deeper into it but I'd rather let the expert lay it out for you....
I'm glad to hear that the professors are standing together in solidarity. They probably aren't paying them right to begin with. Let's see if the white professors will stand for truth also.
They won’t stand I’m sure they won’t trust me as the reporter said university don’t have feelings they have interests and so does those teachers you hope will stand trust me it’s been 66 years since MLK and many others walked across the bridge and none of them stood up then and none of them old heads will stand up now the young will but the older won’t our issue in America is the older generation who running things and maybe a few young but mostly older
What truth?
@@williammorrison6311 He doesn't know. It just sounds good & profound.😒
ohhh so THEY think THEY run the school and the employees get to tell the bosses whats what? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA DONT LET THE DOOR HIT YOU ON THE WAY OUT !!!!!!
And so people of color prove to be just as if not more racist! Congratulations!
Wht colleagues are not going to come forward. Every race is out for themselves except BW who want to be for everyone else except putting themselves first. Let this be a lesson.
Why should "wht" colleagues come forward? How is it exactly that BW "want to be for everyone else except putting themselves first?" How are they unique as compared to other classes of people?
@@williammorrison6311 We can give you many examples of BW standing up for justice and the civil rights of everyone. Even BM have done that! MLK lost his life for doing it. You're an idiot and got the nerve to want to reject education and knowledge! A rusty nail makes more sense than you!
Even if they do give her tenure, they will never treat her right because she is just too intelligent to fall in line with the crap they will expect her to dummy down for.
She a grifter she’ll fall In Line easily
@@HonorableSienna Speak for yourself. You don't know that woman personally.
"Too intelligent" huh?
@@aprilb.7731 Yes, she is, and very astute!
@@FASBLAQUE Well shoot give her the keys to the university.😒
I often wonder if the black professors would leave!, NOW!! I have my answer!!
Why would they leave?
@@williammorrison6311 Why should they stay? Let your school go on and be lilly white so you never win anymore in sports. Scouts will stop even going there! Ha ha!
Those Black professors weren't giving you the high scores just because you're white, huh? lmao
Why are you here? Is the faux 'news' UA-cam channel crashing?
Does it make you upset to see strong and intelligent black women with the prestige you could never even fathom attaining? Aw poo hoooo, you poor poor thing! 🥺
Lmaooooo what a clown! 🤣🤡. I love that you morally bankrupt imbeciles will never muster up the courage to voice these wonderful opinions in public. So all you're left with is spewing your hate on the comment section of a *BLACK* news tonight UA-cam channel.....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽
When will we learn that these PWI do not value us. Unless we are athletes making them money. If all the black athletes leave then they will change. But why do we put ourselves through this shit. She just hit the nail on the head, "we will never be good enough." Until we have our own, we will continue to have these issues.
We already have our own universities we have the historical black college .
Okay, let's face facts. UNC does not value the athletes either. They, along with the NCAA, have been fighting showing respect or value to any athletes. They value athletes as much as they value their horses.
But she is part of the whites surely she has some value 😭
Keep thinking that! See yah, don't need discriminatory rhetoric from anyone!
@@mervyngreene6687 yeah,right. Some folk only see what they want to see.
May they go to an HBCU! There are plenty around, especially in North Carolina. They shouldn't have been at UNC anyway.
Thank youuuuuu
@@ursamajor6347 Money, Prestige and loving being the special unicorn is a problem among black liberal elites. Black liberals are in the sunken place more than just a black conservative.
@@ursamajor6347 Lol! You think too much of yourself!
@@delirous8 Black people aren't liberals. Liberals attached themselves to the Black movement and it gave both groups a larger voting block. Your vote is the loudest voice you have next to your dollars and labor. Blacks were savvy enough not to reject liberals just because the politics differ on issues. We still both have the same enemy. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. You millenials can't think that far. You are set in your ways and can't nobody tell you nothing. You move according to your emotions as opposed to taking pause and thinking clearly. You concentrate on your pain too much..You millenials are the ones in a sunken place running around here calling yourself n**gas and killing one another. Reminds me of what the kkk did during Jim Crow yet you claim you're woke. Please! Liberals can't hurt you, but your own mind can and is.
@@ursamajor6347 OK keyboard gangster. Only a geek would disrespect themself in cyberspace where they can be safe from the consequences of the things that come out their mouth. You're a geek and what you say is irrelevant. You also don't know what the fuck you're talking about. White people have their own talent and don't need yours. Since you want to be around white folks so bad the best thing you can do is learn to kiss ass. From what I see you're already good at that. You make o massa proud!
Her getting the job won’t be a win a real win would be just apply for a school that would appreciate you more and no it doesn’t have to be a black school we just want equal pay and equal treatment.
What has she done to be "appreciated?" Who has been denied equal pay and equal treatment? Can you provide any examples?
She's actually headed to Howard now.
@@williammorrison6311 Proof of that can easily be acquired. Even white female professors make less than white males. You been running your mouth through this whole thread putting your hate on display. You can't do it in person, because you might get your ass kicked so you are trolling in cyber space like a three year old!
I am a doctoral candidate for a PhD in Public Policy, whose study is on the intersectionality that these doctors speak. I actually used academic peer-reviewed journals written by other Chapel Hill professors, including Black men, written less than 4 years ago, about this stuff. Ironically, I moved to NC five years ago and had applied for a job at this university. There is a Democrat governor now over this state, but many things are still of "the past" at its core. Dare I say now, thank goodness this university's HR dept or whomever thought I wasn't qualified, or the right hire. ✊🏽🖤
Yeah. Most ncrlinians don't like him. Hoping Mark Robinson, the Republican Lt. Governor runs.
Just go to an HBCU....
Yep, leave! Go to an HBCU!
let it start affecting the athletic programs for black college recruitment athletes and you will see a change real quick. That is where they need to steer the target talks. If black professors are not being treated fairly then why should black student athletes want to go to this college.
Those black professors are tenured. Black students or any student for that matter, should want to go this school because it is one of the best in the nation. It offers a stellar education in many fields & is open to ALL PEOPLE! I can't with this mentality. I just can't.
@@aprilb.7731 Maybe you should ask those black female professors that are walking away from UNC because of the situation if it is racially one of the best for black students and professor for equality. No I can't with this mentality either!
@@wandaharris612 I wouldn't ask those entitled attention-seekers anything. They are leaving because an entitled sister didn't get what she wanted while negotiating for a position. To them I say ta ta🖐 & good riddance.
how is she entitled when she has earned every damned award she got. did you say that about the white tenured professor at UNC or are you saying that about her because she supported the CRT project in education.
@@wandaharris612 But she HAS NOT EARNED tenure! She is "entitled" because she & others think she should be tenured simply because she earned some awards. She has not even taught ONE DAY at the univ, yet she is supposed to get what other professors teach YEARS to get. That is the entitlement mentality!!! Why does SHE get to leap over the process. Writing a book doesn't make you a great professor or colleague.
We are still depending on white folk. Allllll of those black universities in NC. Where these talented black women would be appreciated and wanted. And they would be an admiration to students of color. And we are still running to PWI. THESE FOLK ARE SAD. BLACK UNIVERSITIES NEED THIS GREAT TALENT!!! PITTIFUL!!!!! WE ARE SAD!!!!
Because they have bought into that false narrative created by John McWhorter and the likes of him that Black teachers don't teach students anything and lower academic scores.
Ms. Hanna Jones does not have a Doctorate degree. Therefore, under the University rules of tenure she is not eligible. It was voted on by the faculty rules committee and the compromise was to give her a 5 year contract and allow her to earn her PhD. during that time. Also please remember that there are over 2,000 faculty members and 3 are leaving and give notice. Also with 30,000 students less than 300 showed up to protest. This is being painted completely out of context and is a disservice to the University. There is no major division here at the University.
Do we know why the university didn’t vote on her tenure? Has the university said what their reasons were?
There is a statement about how she handle criticism of her work and how the editing was done too.
They don't need a reason when u black!!
@@michaelalston2877 Yet they have tenured black professors. They has to be other reasons.
@@Sleepy11323 it's not cuz all the other black female professors feel ashamed working there
@@michaelalston2877 The point I’m making is if UNC has tenured other black professors, why do we assume this professor didn’t get hired solely because she’s black? It just doesn’t stand to reason. They either tenure black professors or they don’t. I’m betting there’s more to the story.
Why are Black Athletes still going there??
Because it is a great school.
Because it is one of the best schools in the nation. Duh
They've been mis-educated about history in America. Most of us have been mis-educated. The truth about American history has never been taught
Awesome! I hope Black parents pull their kids out of UNC, and enroll them in HBCU'S!!
Our grown children choose the school they would lilke to attend. Educational program & cost are the drivers of the decision...not racial makeup. Which school has the best program for their major or even has their major? Please can we stop making EVERYTHING about skin color?
So black parents should dissuade their children from attending a uni because of a black woman whom they don't know
& her failed job perk negotiation with a prospective employer? I don't think so.
“Segregate the university” isn’t the progressive stance you seem to think.
@@jkluvschachi Let me rock your world, young man. I'm a senior citizen, and my family was the second African American family on our street in 1966, so I've been " integrated " into White society all my life. I'm not a fan of intergration, I think segregation was great for our community because we thrived as entrepreneurs! Many because self made millionaires! Once we intergrated, a majority of Blacks became employees, and subject to the same BS this very intelligent woman had to go through. I travelled to Africa for 6 months to get away from this current trend of racism, and can't wait to get back. Walk in our shoes for 6 months, and check out how much PTSD you get!
@@LyndaDBrownAuthor All-black and majority-black countries exist. Have you considered moving to one? Since you hate diversity so much and all.
They may think about it if someone like a Roy Williams becomes an outspoken allie and or mens collegiate basketball recruits speak on it.
"Allie" with regard to what exactly?
@@williammorrison6311 Knowledge, fool! Unlike you, many intelligent people want to learn while you reject knowledge, but sit around and run your mouth about everything you don't know! You're a sock puppet!
Please, you racist haven't been listening, you hear and see only what you want to hear and see.
Why should someone get tenure when their calling card is the ahistorical 1619 project? The historians who have carefully studied the era objected to the central thesis that one of the primary reasons the colonists decided to declare their independence from Britain was because they wanted to protect the institution of slavery. To earn tenure one must be a good scholar. She may be a good activist, for whatever that's worth, but it isn't worth tenure.
Exactly. This hoopla over nothing goes to the soft bigotry of low expectations. She published rubbish but is expected to get tenure just because she’s a black activist.
And I’m a BW so we don’t all agree on Hannah-Jones.
It's about time that my people stop "Going along to get along." They wanted segregation, then let's give it to them, but let us take our money with us and invest in ourselves and our own communities! If Amerikkka was truly a nation of equal opportunity, there would not be the problems that we are facing now.
No one is standing in your way.
@@mo1tard743 That is what makes Amerikkka so great!
@@mo1tard743 Bye! It is supposedly a free country.
I’m glad unc is taking time to consider. This woman is trying to change our history, I’m. Ot for it.
Whose history?
All of these distinguished sistas should move to the continent immediately . They'll be enshrined by the overwhelming presence of our own people and walk into a legacy unmatched . The acceptance you seek here is simply waiting for you to accept being there .
The enslaved and sold their own - what are you talking about
@@HonorableSienna You are also a slave for free and by consent and don't even know it. "We the people" means land and slave owners, not you dummy!
Tenure should be granted after an applicant has demonstrated competence in academia & research. NHJ simply has no experience at all, and she certainly hasn’t demonstrated competence in academic research. Her scholarship was demonstrated to be lacking and her perspective deeply bigoted in the 1619 project. It appears people want to give her a tenured position simply because she is black and received a politically motivated prize for an intellectually impoverished project. She not only lacks academic experience but her research was evaluated to be deeply flawed and bigoted.
UNC Is Racist,there's the Answer.I hate this happened to my Brothers and Sisters who had to leave.All So called Blacks need to Leave These Yte Universities. Shalom!🙏🏿🦁🔥
Start talking about the Basketball Recruits and Football Recruits.......Poach for Justice!
Exactly!!! All those black athletes need to reconsider this University!!!That will get that school to change its policies quickly!!!
Yea, mess with that big time money the get from the free labor and exploitation of teenage athletes.
4 ohhh so THEY think THEY run the school and the employees get to tell the bosses whats what? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA DONT LET THE DOOR HIT YOU ON THE WAY OUT !!!!!!
Well…it looks like I’m going to be doing my doctoral study at the University of Michigan, instead of UNC.
Nicole is a bigot. Someone stood firm.
@Richard Stone jealous. Lol.
@@Dom-xi8je Unfortunately, there is no HBCU that has doctoral program. I went and HBCU for undergrad though. It was the best, and most academically challenging school that I ever attended. Truly fulfilling.
@@marohan The board member that blocked her appointment, is the bigot. Grow up....
Why?!? Let the halfcast deal with her people / this has nothing to go with black people. Black women have received tenure and this grifter found a niche with her little project and is using it against her people
Leaving is 👉🏿NOT THE ANSWER!
As an African American woman, I am proud to say that we are among the highest educated and qualified. Let's go where our knowledge and expertise is desired and appreciated. Later for them.
What's your source for the claim that you are "among the highest educated and qualified?"
Anyone would be lucky to have these women as professors. So sad, but not surprised, to hear about the challenges and traumas they face. Racism is a problem and invention of white people and as a white person, I strive to leverage my privilege to stand alongside those like these incredible women and take part in the work to eradicate racism. I mourn a society that puts obstacles in the paths of these scholars when we should rather be doing everything possible to facilitate their work.
One thing I can do right now is engage with their work. While listening I accessed Dr. Holland's acclaimed book *The Erotic Life of Racism* as well as catch up on her blog theprofessorstable.wordpress.com
I also downloaded Dr. Caldwell's recent article “Black Women’s Studies in the United States and Brazil: The Transnational Politics of Knowledge Production,”
These are small steps, but one of the best ways to honor a scholar is to honor their work. As Dr. Holland said in this interview, "I wish someone would ask me about my work..."
Update: I finished reading the introduction to Dr. Holland's The Erotic Life of Racism. I am so glad I did. Luminescent writing and searing insights; challenging and rewarding. Brava.
Yes, it's really a blessing in disguise. Howard U got Dr. Cornel West under these same circumstances. White America still wants to be segregated, but calls Farrakhan a racist when he speaks of separation and having our own. See, how they burned down Tulsa OK when we built were forced to have our own during Jim Crow with no help from anyone? White America wants to have her cake and eat it too.
How would anyone be lucky? Because of their skin color? How exactly are they "incredible?" Exactly what "racism" are they working to eradicate? What is their "work," and how is it useful?
@@williammorrison6311 All of your questions are addressed above. Read their work and find out. Its called google it.
Walking away from tenure track faculty positions in this job market is only possible if one is enormously privileged.
Or if people are just tired of dealing with America’s BULLSHIT
@@mcgcmaestro There’s still enslaved black people in subsaharan Africa, but yes, those being granted full tenure by state schools are the ones truly suffering.🙄
@@jkluvschachi what does that have to do with the issue at hand? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Epic fail, try again
No! Walking away means that they are qualified to swim in any waters. Nicole Hanah-Jones is an award winning journalist and they were fools to not want to have someone like that grace their halls. They will always be remembered for that!
That's why the basketball coach retired???
Dayum…..she got that tenure now. Hopefully they found other positions before they left. More than likely did
Umm I don’t think you were paying attention she did not get tenure. 😶
Bye. I am sure they can find some folks who can replace them.
This is a sad day for UNC. How will they recover from this? There's no turning back at this point!!
Pretty sure they have a wait list every year a mile long. And it's unfortunate to lose diversity, but I am sure they can fill the positions easily. And they don't have to worry about complaints for more diversity when nobody else is applying? It sounds like Ms. Hannah-Jones is definitely qualified so it doesn't make a lot of sense why she doesn't get tenure. Maybe it's because she is trying to force it?
@@Sparty1966grad If she has done the work and complied where is the force? Oh! That's right! I forgot! Me and my non-racist mind forgot that Blacks have to produce more for the same or less amount of money or credit than whites! That old pesky thing... A leftover relic from slavery! Golly darn it!
@@Sparty1966grad
Really? Did you even LISTEN to the video? I guess not. Go rewatch/listen!! Oh, BTW, while you're at it, read some of the comments so you'll be up to date on this issue!
They will be alright. Let Hannon take her Marxist piece down the road.
@@marohan
IGNORANCE, fortunately is NOT an excuse!!💯
ohhh so THEY think THEY run the school and the employees get to tell the bosses whats what? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA DONT LET THE DOOR HIT YOU ON THE WAY OUT !!!!!!
The situation has soured, even if she’s hired for tenure it will no longer be this huge welcome. I’ve never seen a professor with only a Masters be tenured. Usually only at smaller colleges, we truly don’t know the reason for her not being hired. UNC is a very liberal school but predominantly white liberal. It’s interesting to see them not accept one of their own based on political beliefs but not same skin color. I guess skin color still plays a huge role and not the shared ideology of people.
I heard they want to give her $5 million $$$ to go away!
I’d take it and spend it on making them look stupid!
But they don't look stupid. She does. They are not obligated to give this woman tenure before she teaches one lesson or works one day. They offered her a position with a 5 year contract. That is generous. Take it or leave it.
Sounds like something infantile you would do...
One of the most important journalist of the 21st century😂😂😂😂😂😂
No loss if an army of affirmative action Bullshit studies hires leave
I bet they won’t start their own university.
To "start their own university" is a good idea. Educate our own with our history
There are many Black universities! They're called HBCU. They allow white people to go there too and not one white person is being harassed by being there. You need to change your tag, because game is not something you recognize. Everybody knows about HBCU!
@@jamberry8026 HBCU’s are black targeted not black owned. Think before speaking. It builds character.
@@recognizegame215 You lack reading comp skills. I never said that they were Black owned, and you should have looked in the mirror when you said think. I don't see anyone hunting you down in search of character. The police might be looking for you though!
@@jamberry8026 YOU ARE RACIST.
Not sure why they would want her there anyway.
Couldn't you have found at least one academic 'of color' that is an expert in a real subject?
never ending victims.
Aren’t we over reacting a bit, they didn’t vote on it YET hold your horses
Don't you think a non decision is a decision? We're always told to wait
I suspect you're a "white supremist" troll
MAYBE IF REPARATIONS WERE PUSHED MORE 🤷🏿 THIS WOULDN'T BE HAPPENING THIS WASN'T A REAL FOCUS
Person of color, this is so funny. This grifter should have been focusing on this instead of discrediting the ADOS movement
👍🏽
You people are insane.........
Sounds like you need a Union
going to this school in the fall as a POC. I'm scared i'll be treated oddly now ;0
I go to UNC and the students are so kind, diverse & open minded. As for the board, not so much
You will be fine. You will love it. Don't let this foolish fight about employee perks make you question your decision or feel apprehensive. You chose a great school. Don't let outsiders affect your perception of the school. Go Tarheels!
@@aprilb.7731 Fuck the racist, low class tar heels!
@@jamberry8026 😂Why are you people still commenting on this video. The woman has moved on. You do the same for your mental health & peace."Low class"..😂😂Surely you jest.
@@aprilb.7731 You think she cares about the dumb shit you think? Not a chance! She moved on like those of us who keep our grown up clothes on. You in here laughing at your own silly jokes. You make white comedy still dull, dry, boring, and uninteresting as it's always been. You all went into a tizzy about CRT and the 1619 project. You couldn't possibly be questioning anyone else's mentals.
BYE
When the going gets tough the whiners leave
Good
UNC is paying a price is it?? Any students she taught would also be paying a large price.