Yk they could make it a "capped rng", where it has a 20% chance to crit, but if the first 4 arrows don't crit, the 5th arrow is guaranteed to crit (and then it resets the 5th crit)
At around 6:30, you mentioned what we voted as best 5th tiers and what are your favorite 5th tier. There's a difference between best and favorite. My favorite Dart Monkey 5th tier is the Ultra Jug (I just love how all those spiked balls bounce like crazy on a few maps), but to me, the objective best one on most maps is the Crossbow Master. I voted for Crossbow Master in the poll because of it. If you asked for favorite (and mentioned the distinction between favorite and objective best), I'd have voted for the Ultra Jug. Just an important distinction I thought I'd mention that sometimes there's a difference between a favorite of something and what someone thinks is objectively best. Your content got me back into BTD6 last fall in my last semester of college (after not playing it for two-ish years). Thanks for showing me again how fun and strategic this lovely little game is.
I also get the feeling that people were voting for their favorite rather than the best one. People seriously voted for glaive lord over perma charge and moab dom. What.
@@spectralaria8648 I find the Glaive Lord does better than Perma Charge or Moab Dom in my overall gameplay strategy on most maps, so because of that, I voted for the Glaive Lord. It kind of depends on how you combine each Towers' strengths to complement with each other to win the game overall.
@MatrixGuardians99 gave lord is better till ddts come out in chimps if u play right after a glave lord u can get a perm charge both do good moab damage and crowd control
Tack Zone was a very common boss strategy, even for Dreadbloon, which has lead property. FYI your XBM on the left had way more pops because you upgraded it way sooner.
The main reason Crossbow Master struggles with lategame is because of superceramics, he doesn't have the damage and pierce to destroy them before they get outside of his range since they're too fast. He's still great for MOAB damage though, so usually when I get him I put him on last and focus on ceramic cleanup. Of course, when people say Crossbow Master falls off lategame, all they really mean is he can't solo anymore, or at least get a majority of the pops. He doesn't stop attacking, though, he's still plenty effective.
@@tokilladaemon XBM is very very bad with ddt's, cant pop it well and XBM having bad mid game means its effectively more expensive cuz u need another tower to help it during mid game. So you are getting a tower, that struggles post round 80 as a reuslt of super ceramics, needs straight lines, and just struggles vs ddt's. Idk under what conditions it is good vs them when most towers under a mib are much better
People are 100% overreacting to the nerfs, but I can agree some of these buffs are confusing. Haven’t played around with Bloonsolver yet but from what I’ve seen it seems to do everything cleanup related on its own, even doing considerable damage up to ZOMGs for quite cheap.
@@monke9084 all of the perma spike tests I’ve seen fail to understand that it’s a last line of defense, not a solo carry. Pre r80 cerams get instakilled and only use 1 pierce if the ceram has taken 3 damage, which will almost always be the case if you have a permaspike in an actual game with an actual defense backing it up. And even if a lot of individual bloons get by you’re still gonna have a ton of spikes piled up, the strength of the tower is that it piles up tons and tons of spikes, I mean it’s literally called PERMAspike, the most popular “test” I’ve seen uses a single spike and is surprised that it can’t handle much! Use towers yourself, in an actual game with an actual defense, before just straight up saying it’s dead. TZ too, people are surprised that Tack Zone doesn’t solo certain things but it feels like people just forgot that it’s main strength is how well it pairs up with buffs like berserker brew. Pre-Nerf Tack Zone was also not worth getting with no buffs.
I'm actually pretty ecstatic that they buffed crossbow master, it's legitimately just my single favorite tower among them all and i use it nigh religiously in CHIMPS mode with the boring meta tack shooter and a top path village. can't wait to see it put in more work
SJB, I just wanna say that your videos always have this positive effect on me, that cheer me up whenever I’m feeling down. I think about your passion for BTD6, and the things you share with us about your real life, and it just has this way of encouraging me to be a better person.
IMO i think all the buffs and powercreeps will eventually result in the mastery mode to be a new big feature like the one in BTD 5, BUT that remains to be seen, and probably in a WHILE considering the beast handler just got released
I'm gonna take a stab in the dark and say Crossbow Master's popularity is really helped by the Monkey Knowledge allowing two of them. They should change that Monkey Knowledge to allow two of ANY Dart Monkey 5th Tier. To balance it could also lock the other two 5th Tiers. So you could have 2 Crossbow Masters, but never get Ultra Jugg or Fan Club, or 2 Ultra Jugg but never get a Crossbow Master or Fan Club, or, well, you get the idea.
7:00, slight correction, it's joint with the heli (84% of people also think the apache prime is the best 5th tier heli), and 85% of people think the permabrew alchemist is the best 5th tier (however this poll came out after you would've recorded this)
@@spicywaffles_L nah they made the shark die from eating bloons, because they are rubber, the tack zone got the tacks removed and the permanent spike becomes the spike and is as powerful as a 0-0-0 spactory
I'm gonna be honest with u, plasma monkey fan club is a fantastic tower that can carry chimps on literally any map except maybe flooded valley whereas crossbow master as u said, can work as a saveup tower on some maps but there are better alternatives that either dont fall off late game (sun avatar, elite sniper/defender, pirate lord, xx4 dartling, 420 dartling, hell even spectre) or they're just cheaper for the same job like summon phoenix, recursive cluster, commanche defence etc. i could go on with both categories but crossbow master definitely needed the buff considering it's not good and it doesnt even have a niche like Ujugg does.
Before you put the glue monkey down, I was thinking to put a primary expertise near the sharp shooter because that side needs more power. But I was wondering what other primary monkey would be cool to put down. Awesome combo and amazing video!
im just curios to why the need to nerf things in this game, this is a PvE game, if this was a PvP game like btd 6 battles ( idk the name of the game) than yes the need to buff and nerf things would be up for debate. But what i would like them to see do is buff the towers or change the towers that dont have a high usage rate, to make future strats more interesting. i feel like the need to nerf things like the mid tree monkey bucceneer and bottem tree spike factory was uncalled for.
Ninja kiwi isnt gonna buff PMFC when its achieving a lot of results. PMFC is very useful ni chimps comapred to XBM. A Comprehensive tier list for (expert) CHIMPS was made and shows how good PMFC is compared to XBM which shows that it struggles. - Generally, lack of buff synergy and tendency to miss makes crossbow outclassed by other options. - Sharp Shooter is a strong earlygame on Ravine. - Crossbow Master can be a weaker alternative to a tier 3 super but reliance on straight lines and lack of synergies hampers it. I would also add its weakness post round 80 and its poor mid game means that the saveup for a tier 5 that will not last that long will struggle. You mentioned that in the video but to also add more blimp health means it struggles more and super ceramics, they are jsut smth it struggles against. This is what is written for XBM, a lot of weaknesses and very little strengths esp on harder maps. XBM isnt also good in races and bosses. Casuals also just want to place a tower and be done with, which explains why pretty much every ability based tower is so low and every tower that u can place and be done with is high, like SOTF, XBM, archmage, etc. XBM isnt the worst tower u can go for, prob isnt that bad and its prob a mediocre option, but why go for XBM as a mid game option when there are many other towers such as robo monkey, bads, spiked mines, commanche defense, etienne, icicles, Artillery Battery, etc. XBM is jsut to expensive for what it wants to do esp since it falls of quickly after that since most harder advanced/expert maps just do not give it the lines neccessary to take advantage of. In the video it shreds because it can get a long straight line to just shoot down bloons
Imagine if they reworked it so that the Juggernaut and Ultra Juggernaut Projectile works similarly to the spike factory Projectile, would make it... a little powerful
I think it starts getting bad at round 80 because most of the rounds have big targets and only a few of them so his pierce isn’t being used as much then when they do get popped it’s not enough pierce to deal with the tons of ceramics and other bloons.
I'm a bit new to bloons so I just wanted to ask how he can play with 2 of the same 5th tier crossbow masters? When I play I'm limited to 1 5th tier so it just confused me a little
About Tack Zone, TZ wasn't nerfed, it was actually Even Faster Shooting that was nerfed, as NK is hoping people will get 025 in more than literally zero situations. I think the effects were a little overstated by the fandom, a 15% attack speed decrease is nothing to panic over.
Let's say you have an attack speed of 100 and damage of 1000 (theoretically) If we decreased the attack speed of 100 to 80 (20% decrease), it will go from a damage per second of 100k, all the way to 80k, which is a pretty big chip in its dps. 15% is lower than my example, but you get the point, it's still a dps debuff
I genuinely wonder if he just uses a random word generator "Welcome, my Grimacing Rich Children" for example Did anyone think Crossbow Master was already good? Half the Reddit considered them awful lol. Ultra Jugg's much greater than Crossbow Master lol. Main issue that drags down Plasma Fan Club's popularity is just the fact that they're useless without the ability so you have to stall and stuff. Plus that poll doesn't specify best in terms of doing good or in terms of favourites or even anything else, plus while you have a fairly large community the community tab doesn't really have notifications in the same way videos do. I agree on the weird buffing of Bloon Solver though they were already good lol.
plasma monkey fan club is my dav dart 5tg tier and imo its the best, rhe other two are decent but suck lategame and mid path you can actually build a strategy around it.
@@bluewatergamingromania.m i havent used the new cbm but the ultra jugg sucks, it isnt even good against super cerams which should be its expertise. You would be better off getting something like a downdraft or bloon solver
@@iforgotoputausername downdraft is ussles vs moab class bloons/mcb/MCB/blimps and what is buffs is get instead of 5th hit cbm 3rd and later on the most recent update price decress 23.5k to 21.4k.
@@bluewatergamingromania.m things like downstate are not meant for moabs, its so your main dps towers have more time to pop the cerams if they suck against them.
Nk always making themselves their own worst enemy. They change things that aren't asked for or needed I get you want fresh new and versatility in your game but man so many pointless updates.
They changed crits like two updates ago to be based on a shot count, not random. So every 5th shot is a crit
Prob to stop RNG based challenges using these, NK doing a great job as always!
i thought it was always the 6th shot, without any updates
Before that buff it was very good that means rng is sometimes very good.
Wonder if there are any impossible challenges now because of this
Yk they could make it a "capped rng", where it has a 20% chance to crit, but if the first 4 arrows don't crit, the 5th arrow is guaranteed to crit (and then it resets the 5th crit)
At around 6:30, you mentioned what we voted as best 5th tiers and what are your favorite 5th tier. There's a difference between best and favorite.
My favorite Dart Monkey 5th tier is the Ultra Jug (I just love how all those spiked balls bounce like crazy on a few maps), but to me, the objective best one on most maps is the Crossbow Master. I voted for Crossbow Master in the poll because of it. If you asked for favorite (and mentioned the distinction between favorite and objective best), I'd have voted for the Ultra Jug. Just an important distinction I thought I'd mention that sometimes there's a difference between a favorite of something and what someone thinks is objectively best.
Your content got me back into BTD6 last fall in my last semester of college (after not playing it for two-ish years). Thanks for showing me again how fun and strategic this lovely little game is.
I also get the feeling that people were voting for their favorite rather than the best one. People seriously voted for glaive lord over perma charge and moab dom. What.
@@spectralaria8648 I find the Glaive Lord does better than Perma Charge or Moab Dom in my overall gameplay strategy on most maps, so because of that, I voted for the Glaive Lord.
It kind of depends on how you combine each Towers' strengths to complement with each other to win the game overall.
@MatrixGuardians99 gave lord is better till ddts come out in chimps if u play right after a glave lord u can get a perm charge both do good moab damage and crowd control
@@cyberlord645 That's a good idea! I'll try to that out, thank ya.
@MatrixGuardians99 doesn't work on all maps but easier ones boomerang can help alot I normally quincy early as easier maps he can be a starter
Tack Zone was a very common boss strategy, even for Dreadbloon, which has lead property.
FYI your XBM on the left had way more pops because you upgraded it way sooner.
The main reason Crossbow Master struggles with lategame is because of superceramics, he doesn't have the damage and pierce to destroy them before they get outside of his range since they're too fast. He's still great for MOAB damage though, so usually when I get him I put him on last and focus on ceramic cleanup.
Of course, when people say Crossbow Master falls off lategame, all they really mean is he can't solo anymore, or at least get a majority of the pops. He doesn't stop attacking, though, he's still plenty effective.
100% this. He's great for ddts which a lot of popular t5s struggle with, and he's so cheap thst you'll have the money for one of them anyway
@@tokilladaemon XBM is very very bad with ddt's, cant pop it well and XBM having bad mid game means its effectively more expensive cuz u need another tower to help it during mid game. So you are getting a tower, that struggles post round 80 as a reuslt of super ceramics, needs straight lines, and just struggles vs ddt's. Idk under what conditions it is good vs them when most towers under a mib are much better
People are 100% overreacting to the nerfs, but I can agree some of these buffs are confusing. Haven’t played around with Bloonsolver yet but from what I’ve seen it seems to do everything cleanup related on its own, even doing considerable damage up to ZOMGs for quite cheap.
The perma spike though...
@@monke9084 that was literally massacred
We are not overreacting. Its because you don't understand how broken it was before
Yeah p spike is 25% worse after 80 but pre 80 it can't even kill 3 cerams per spike
@@monke9084 all of the perma spike tests I’ve seen fail to understand that it’s a last line of defense, not a solo carry. Pre r80 cerams get instakilled and only use 1 pierce if the ceram has taken 3 damage, which will almost always be the case if you have a permaspike in an actual game with an actual defense backing it up. And even if a lot of individual bloons get by you’re still gonna have a ton of spikes piled up, the strength of the tower is that it piles up tons and tons of spikes, I mean it’s literally called PERMAspike, the most popular “test” I’ve seen uses a single spike and is surprised that it can’t handle much! Use towers yourself, in an actual game with an actual defense, before just straight up saying it’s dead. TZ too, people are surprised that Tack Zone doesn’t solo certain things but it feels like people just forgot that it’s main strength is how well it pairs up with buffs like berserker brew. Pre-Nerf Tack Zone was also not worth getting with no buffs.
I'm actually pretty ecstatic that they buffed crossbow master, it's legitimately just my single favorite tower among them all and i use it nigh religiously in CHIMPS mode with the boring meta tack shooter and a top path village. can't wait to see it put in more work
that’s like buffing a already super good tower, like a paragon, and it’s kinda un-fun because it makes the other paths useless
SJB, I just wanna say that your videos always have this positive effect on me, that cheer me up whenever I’m feeling down. I think about your passion for BTD6, and the things you share with us about your real life, and it just has this way of encouraging me to be a better person.
IMO i think all the buffs and powercreeps will eventually result in the mastery mode to be a new big feature like the one in BTD 5, BUT that remains to be seen, and probably in a WHILE considering the beast handler just got released
yeah, i'm glad they're making it so that anyone can beat gamemodes with their faves but a new similar permanent challenge would also be nice
I'm gonna take a stab in the dark and say Crossbow Master's popularity is really helped by the Monkey Knowledge allowing two of them. They should change that Monkey Knowledge to allow two of ANY Dart Monkey 5th Tier. To balance it could also lock the other two 5th Tiers. So you could have 2 Crossbow Masters, but never get Ultra Jugg or Fan Club, or 2 Ultra Jugg but never get a Crossbow Master or Fan Club, or, well, you get the idea.
7:00, slight correction, it's joint with the heli (84% of people also think the apache prime is the best 5th tier heli), and 85% of people think the permabrew alchemist is the best 5th tier (however this poll came out after you would've recorded this)
41.0 update.
So we decided to make crossbow master and bloon solver one tap BADs due to "Powercreep".
and also make top path BH and Tack Zone useless along with Perma Spike
tho I guess that just happened smh
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@@spicywaffles_L nah they made the shark die from eating bloons, because they are rubber, the tack zone got the tacks removed and the permanent spike becomes the spike and is as powerful as a 0-0-0 spactory
I don't think the increased range matters; they already had great range.
But that $2000 price decrease is nice
That one kid in grade school: "I'm telling you. Glue is delish"
best comment here
Apparently the dark champion got buffed massively as well 😂
Remember when the vid was first uploaded and he misspelled it to say mega crt? That was funny.
I'm gonna be honest with u, plasma monkey fan club is a fantastic tower that can carry chimps on literally any map except maybe flooded valley whereas crossbow master as u said, can work as a saveup tower on some maps but there are better alternatives that either dont fall off late game (sun avatar, elite sniper/defender, pirate lord, xx4 dartling, 420 dartling, hell even spectre) or they're just cheaper for the same job like summon phoenix, recursive cluster, commanche defence etc. i could go on with both categories but crossbow master definitely needed the buff considering it's not good and it doesnt even have a niche like Ujugg does.
real! most peope just want to afk and cant be bothered. Yeah its an amazing tower compared to XBM which SJB says its a good tower?
Before you put the glue monkey down, I was thinking to put a primary expertise near the sharp shooter because that side needs more power. But I was wondering what other primary monkey would be cool to put down. Awesome combo and amazing video!
Yea Perma spike was a really weird change. And they saw what was going on reddit so they buff XBM xD
yeah dude I already liked the crossbow master for like easily taking town beginner/intermediate maps
5:06 smurfgasm!?
im just curios to why the need to nerf things in this game, this is a PvE game, if this was a PvP game like btd 6 battles ( idk the name of the game) than yes the need to buff and nerf things would be up for debate. But what i would like them to see do is buff the towers or change the towers that dont have a high usage rate, to make future strats more interesting. i feel like the need to nerf things like the mid tree monkey bucceneer and bottem tree spike factory was uncalled for.
5:10 aint no way bro
This is clearly Ninjakiwi’s favorite 5th they’ve made.
Ninja kiwi isnt gonna buff PMFC when its achieving a lot of results. PMFC is very useful ni chimps comapred to XBM. A Comprehensive tier list for (expert) CHIMPS was made and shows how good PMFC is compared to XBM which shows that it struggles.
- Generally, lack of buff synergy and tendency to miss makes crossbow outclassed by other options.
- Sharp Shooter is a strong earlygame on Ravine.
- Crossbow Master can be a weaker alternative to a tier 3 super but reliance on straight lines and lack of synergies hampers it.
I would also add its weakness post round 80 and its poor mid game means that the saveup for a tier 5 that will not last that long will struggle. You mentioned that in the video but to also add more blimp health means it struggles more and super ceramics, they are jsut smth it struggles against.
This is what is written for XBM, a lot of weaknesses and very little strengths esp on harder maps. XBM isnt also good in races and bosses. Casuals also just want to place a tower and be done with, which explains why pretty much every ability based tower is so low and every tower that u can place and be done with is high, like SOTF, XBM, archmage, etc.
XBM isnt the worst tower u can go for, prob isnt that bad and its prob a mediocre option, but why go for XBM as a mid game option when there are many other towers such as robo monkey, bads, spiked mines, commanche defense, etienne, icicles, Artillery Battery, etc. XBM is jsut to expensive for what it wants to do esp since it falls of quickly after that since most harder advanced/expert maps just do not give it the lines neccessary to take advantage of. In the video it shreds because it can get a long straight line to just shoot down bloons
yooo i love this map! great video essjaybee!
Imagine if they reworked it so that the Juggernaut and Ultra Juggernaut Projectile works similarly to the spike factory Projectile, would make it... a little powerful
Pmfc and jug is just niche but the spot they're in is pretty decent I'd say
I think it starts getting bad at round 80 because most of the rounds have big targets and only a few of them so his pierce isn’t being used as much then when they do get popped it’s not enough pierce to deal with the tons of ceramics and other bloons.
did bro just call me a panty goblin
I'm a bit new to bloons so I just wanted to ask how he can play with 2 of the same 5th tier crossbow masters? When I play I'm limited to 1 5th tier so it just confused me a little
I might be a little late hehe... *5 month* there's a monkey knowledge that allow you to have 2 crossbow master
@@s0ullessness Ahh, thank you haha!
did they boost the number of paragons allowed in a game? cuz i had 4 and was about to get a 5th but i thought the limit was 3
Only a limit on boss events I think
About Tack Zone, TZ wasn't nerfed, it was actually Even Faster Shooting that was nerfed, as NK is hoping people will get 025 in more than literally zero situations. I think the effects were a little overstated by the fandom, a 15% attack speed decrease is nothing to panic over.
Let's say you have an attack speed of 100 and damage of 1000 (theoretically)
If we decreased the attack speed of 100 to 80 (20% decrease), it will go from a damage per second of 100k, all the way to 80k, which is a pretty big chip in its dps.
15% is lower than my example, but you get the point, it's still a dps debuff
The thing about buffing unpopular towers like PMFC is that they're already balanced, people just never use them.
I genuinely wonder if he just uses a random word generator
"Welcome, my Grimacing Rich Children" for example
Did anyone think Crossbow Master was already good? Half the Reddit considered them awful lol.
Ultra Jugg's much greater than Crossbow Master lol. Main issue that drags down Plasma Fan Club's popularity is just the fact that they're useless without the ability so you have to stall and stuff. Plus that poll doesn't specify best in terms of doing good or in terms of favourites or even anything else, plus while you have a fairly large community the community tab doesn't really have notifications in the same way videos do.
I agree on the weird buffing of Bloon Solver though they were already good lol.
Seeing top path glue destroy t1 base blonerius easily, infact solo it, before the buff.
“Smurfgasm”
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So sad when Chris doesn’t tell me to have a super duper delicious day…
RIP Permaspike 🪦
More buffs?
More buffs?
More buffs?
More buffs?
MORE BUFFS?!
More buffs?
Don't forget this is the first tower you get in BTD6
Sup Chris just wanted to let you know I love your vids
*Nothing gets past my crossbow!*
👍 - _also_ for the YT algo! 😊
ngl they buffed the cross bow master but that makes me kinda hate it now its as broken as released beast handler
How do you get 2 5th-tier towers?
Monkey knowledge
plasma monkey fan club is my dav dart 5tg tier and imo its the best, rhe other two are decent but suck lategame and mid path you can actually build a strategy around it.
Cbm/xbow master lategame is very goood and because of a price buff is almost to good and u jug is shreds super ceramics and is ok vs ddts.
@@bluewatergamingromania.m i havent used the new cbm but the ultra jugg sucks, it isnt even good against super cerams which should be its expertise. You would be better off getting something like a downdraft or bloon solver
@@iforgotoputausername downdraft is ussles vs moab class bloons/mcb/MCB/blimps and what is buffs is get instead of 5th hit cbm 3rd and later on the most recent update price decress 23.5k to 21.4k.
@@bluewatergamingromania.m things like downstate are not meant for moabs, its so your main dps towers have more time to pop the cerams if they suck against them.
@@iforgotoputausername tbs/the bloon solver/bs 0 is to good sometimes very goood almost always u jug is very good.
"Skilled Panty Goblins" -- How did you know?!?!
16:43 I belive rhe second one always performs worse, moght br a bug🤷♂️
People keep mentioning 36.1 updates but every time I go to the btd6 page I can't find anything. Help?
Bug fix that's it
No Orca buff ?
what is that intro💀
This reminds me of call of duty
5:08
Smirfgasm?!?
Nk always making themselves their own worst enemy. They change things that aren't asked for or needed I get you want fresh new and versatility in your game but man so many pointless updates.
Skilled panties goblins
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im a goblin im so sad
Shheeesh
Huh cool
Cool
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Did you sped up the video and audio? I had to reduce it to 0.75 to have it normal-fast speed.
No
SJB
7 min ago and early
Hehe early like 10th or something
Your joke balance changed were better
Meow
Early
I love your content but man it seems you complain a little too much sorry
first?
I’m first! Wooohooo