The Wizard101 Hacking Disaster

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  • Опубліковано 21 лис 2024

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  • @magicshruums1014
    @magicshruums1014 2 роки тому +5280

    The “fuck you I still have it” is genuinely the funniest plot twist I’ve ever heard💀 mans really came back with vengeance

    • @missliv.404
      @missliv.404 2 роки тому +104

      My favorite part tbh😂

    • @CommanderWiggins
      @CommanderWiggins 2 роки тому +322

      I honestly don't know what's funnier, the idea that the admins actually sent that message and the hacker responded, or the idea that the hacker sent all of those messages, basically making a whole plot out of it.

    • @AbandonedVoid
      @AbandonedVoid 2 роки тому +89

      @@CommanderWiggins The latter is far more likely, as someone who works in cybersecurity

    • @ddjsoyenby
      @ddjsoyenby Рік тому +33

      we should all aspire to be like him

    • @daelen.cclark
      @daelen.cclark Рік тому +34

      Then again, the wizard police were after him.

  • @VHeartOld
    @VHeartOld 2 роки тому +8036

    “Fuck”
    “I need to run”
    “The wizard police are after me”
    Will always be the single funniest trio of messages sent in a row to me and I love it so much

    • @chrisconrad9478
      @chrisconrad9478 2 роки тому +4

      i love the fuck you i still have it

    • @plutopawzz
      @plutopawzz 2 роки тому +328

      I just read this comment and I'm writing a short story on tumblr with some dude in a alleyway who knows illegal magic and is being chased by wizard police
      help

    • @4CHAMUKA
      @4CHAMUKA 2 роки тому +6

      “fuck u i still have it” 💀💀💀

    • @alsimagination1150
      @alsimagination1150 2 роки тому +142

      @@plutopawzz No. In fact, *continue.*

    • @fox_she_her
      @fox_she_her 2 роки тому +15

      i like that comment (its funny XD )

  • @thatcher6923
    @thatcher6923 2 роки тому +2752

    As a kid, I was very frugal with money and thought it would be embarrassing to ask my parents for a membership, so I instead did the 10 quizzes a day for 100 crowns until I unlocked most of the areas in Wizard City. It was definitely a low point in my life

    • @urbicide_if
      @urbicide_if 2 роки тому +75

      SAME

    • @KazShiro
      @KazShiro 2 роки тому +190

      I know that feeling...had to do those types of surveys back in 2011 to 2013 in elsword until I got allowance to buy ultimate game cards if you remember that prepaid card.

    • @GingerTyPerior
      @GingerTyPerior 2 роки тому +204

      If it makes you feel any better, I unlocked the whole first arc with trivia crowns. It took me 6 years.

    • @hydra4370
      @hydra4370 2 роки тому +109

      me when I learned how to softmod my 3ds and install a cfw because I was too embarrased to ask my dad for smash bros 3ds

    • @SweatierAcorn
      @SweatierAcorn 2 роки тому +33

      I wasn't able to do the quizzes for some reason and just begged my parents
      much better with money now, maybe a little too careful.

  • @doublejynx
    @doublejynx 2 роки тому +678

    I was online while this was happening, high as shit. I’m embarrassed to admit I thought I was about to become a real life creepypasta victim

    • @Starxii_-ub8yt
      @Starxii_-ub8yt 8 місяців тому +77

      "suddenly, a pitch black wizard with evil red eyes appeared in front of me and ripped my wizards arms off
      *what the heck?!1!?1!?1* i thought to myself *you cant do that in this game!!!?!?1*
      "you'll pay for this" the wizard said, blasting me with a powerful spell that sent me into a dark void covered in blood" (i've never read a creepypasta story thing or played wizard101. i just took this from a snipet from an old fman122 story)

    • @satan3034
      @satan3034 7 місяців тому

      ngl this is pretty spot on lol@@Starxii_-ub8yt

    • @DanniNyan
      @DanniNyan 4 місяці тому +16

      ​@@Starxii_-ub8yt Nah that's pretty accurate actually

    • @starlynxreborn365
      @starlynxreborn365 3 місяці тому +13

      @@Starxii_-ub8yt Fman122, that's a blast from the past

  • @blapis-blazuli
    @blapis-blazuli 2 роки тому +797

    "The next world is my boss's asshole"
    Truly iconic.

    • @MIKO_roma
      @MIKO_roma Рік тому +23

      I am going to quote this in my discord calls from now on.

  • @Liboo52
    @Liboo52 2 роки тому +6948

    My worst fear is that some kid who loves Wizard 101’s parents saw the hacker’s messages and thought that was a normal part of the game and didn’t learn about what actually happened and now that poor kid isn’t allowed to play anymore

    • @Snusmumrikean
      @Snusmumrikean 2 роки тому +553

      I thought the average player age in Wizard 101 is like, 27.

    • @shaece798
      @shaece798 2 роки тому +357

      most parents don't watch their kids online, that's why they expect companies to do it for them, if they were watching chances are they would be getting pushed to do thing irl and not be on the game to begin with.

    • @bridgetbitchass
      @bridgetbitchass 2 роки тому +181

      trust me, it isnt kids playing that game anymore 😂

    • @Minkfang
      @Minkfang 2 роки тому +23

      @@Snusmumrikean surely you’re not thinking of WOW

    • @maddy8328
      @maddy8328 2 роки тому +6

      Agreed

  • @benjaminrobinson3842
    @benjaminrobinson3842 2 роки тому +997

    There's a theory that covers both possibilities: The game was hacked externally by an *ex-* employee. Such a person would have motivation, an insider's knowledge of how KI set up their servers (which is *very* useful when trying to hack your way in), and no worries about losing their job. If true, KI could honestly claim, "Hey it wasn't one of our employees."

    • @orinom4128
      @orinom4128 Рік тому +117

      I believe this too. I'm a game developer and I genuinely believe that the easiest way to hack your way in is to have hands on experience with the server code itself. If they're claiming they got in through, "other means" that holds even stronger in my opinion-- one of the programmers would be much more likely to find these other means. Signing in as admin would be too risky as it should be very easy to trace which employee login is active at a given moment. You also can't do it in the workplace because they'll just find you. You have to do this sort of thing remotely with good protection. Definitely smells like it was either an ex-employee, or current employee who knows their way around the system and is smart enough to not get caught. Legal troubles are no laughing matter after all. :)
      Edit: I would also like to note that it's possible that KI didn't remove admin logins when an employee left the workplace. KI would want to cover up this security breach.

    • @benjaminrabbit659
      @benjaminrabbit659 Рік тому +33

      @@orinom4128 given the terrible infosec I have seen in education and know of in medical software, it is not hard to imagine a MMO having an ex-employee or current employee do this. Also given the lack of specific complaints, they could be disgruntled for any reasons, maybe even completely unrelated to broader issues there, and its not like software dev is know for being a super happy fun environment to work in. seems a ex-employee or current employee is the simplest explanation
      also like I have left places and only noticed years later that I had access to things they should have block off the day I left

    • @Trollestiatumblur
      @Trollestiatumblur Рік тому +30

      That’s the first thing I thought of. An Ex-employee. Technically they wouldn’t be lying since they are no longer an employee. I also think people forget how old Gen Z is. I’m turning 22 next month, the oldest Gen Z is like 26 y/o now. We aren’t in high school anymore

    • @darklordsauron3415
      @darklordsauron3415 Місяць тому

      @@Trollestiatumblurtheir mind is still stuck in middle school however.

    • @Trollestiatumblur
      @Trollestiatumblur Місяць тому +3

      @@darklordsauron3415 Older generations try not to be bitter channel

  • @jaash7981
    @jaash7981 2 роки тому +1672

    The compilation of the hacker's messages was hilarious, and that ending of "fuck you I still have it" absolutely killed me lmao

  • @mystoxxiide9043
    @mystoxxiide9043 2 роки тому +1398

    as an australian kid who also grew up spending a lot of time on the computer, the phrase "my eyes are square from looking at the screen so much" hit me like a sack of bricks

    • @literallyafishhook
      @literallyafishhook Рік тому +42

      this might be a stupid question, but what does it mean? i'm american so i've never heard that phrase before rip

    • @honkhonk275
      @honkhonk275 Рік тому +138

      @@literallyafishhook Really? I thought it was a pretty common phrase across the globe. Saying someone's eyes will "go square" if they look at the computer for too long is just a thing used to lightly scare kids into not over-using the computer, commonly used by parents. Most kids don't believe it, but it's just a fun little reference to a common saying.

    • @literallyafishhook
      @literallyafishhook Рік тому +68

      @@honkhonk275 that's so interesting! i guess it's kinda like how parents would tell kids that they'd go blind if they sat too close to the tv lol

    • @Spunro
      @Spunro Рік тому +49

      @@honkhonk275im from scotland and my dad always said this to me, it didnt really work on me though since i thought having square eyes would be cool 😂

    • @jallybwan3767
      @jallybwan3767 Рік тому +32

      @@Spunro minecraft enjoyers be like

  • @GH0ST_T0WNE
    @GH0ST_T0WNE 2 роки тому +669

    “The wizard police are after me”
    hands-down my new favorite quote.

  • @Gafafsg
    @Gafafsg 2 роки тому +436

    “Now that we’ve introduced the camel’s back, let’s introduce the straw” is the funniest/coolest transition I’ve ever heard

  • @ElkiaStellar
    @ElkiaStellar 2 роки тому +2378

    I have never played MMO's when I was a child but Izzy manages to make me feel nostalgic for them anyways.

    • @alexisb3829
      @alexisb3829 2 роки тому

      Same

    • @duckysguidetoshipping8930
      @duckysguidetoshipping8930 2 роки тому

      Sameee

    • @suicideshy451
      @suicideshy451 2 роки тому +12

      I've been watching Izzy so much I'm getting nostalgic just listening to them talk lmao

    • @abbie_joan
      @abbie_joan 2 роки тому +11

      I did play them and honestly I'm just waiting for the Disney Fairies or Build A Bear video to drop. I played those games religiously when I was little in spite of my family's horrible Internet connection. She really hits that niche internet nostalgia of kids who were definitely anime/book nerds that regularly holed up in our rooms to avoid socializing.

    • @duckysguidetoshipping8930
      @duckysguidetoshipping8930 2 роки тому

      @@suicideshy451 yesss

  • @lolmiser
    @lolmiser 2 роки тому +1379

    Honestly, I feel like every children's online 2000s game has to have some drama, a problematic company behind it or just getting shut down, I could go on, neopets, webkinz and moshi monsters. Rip moshi monsters. My favourite.

    • @ma.2089
      @ma.2089 2 роки тому +66

      When trends end and multiplayer games start to die and lose relevance, this is the way it all goes.
      Besides club Penguin, who has its controversies after the game ended.
      And maybe habbo hotel. Which controversies have entered meme status.

    • @seal8092
      @seal8092 2 роки тому +64

      A family member of mine had to watch Toontown get shut down, I remember being little and looking over their shoulder at the glitchy landscapes and the floating NPCs.

    • @gokuxsephiroth4505
      @gokuxsephiroth4505 2 роки тому +8

      Moshi Monsters Rewritten is pretty neat. It's MM but you're all members

    • @mechanicalhoundz
      @mechanicalhoundz 2 роки тому +6

      I was about to say "Oh no! What did Webkinz do?!" and then I remembered.....the NFTs.....

    • @quetzalcueyat
      @quetzalcueyat 2 роки тому +2

      It's Playstation home for me

  • @wilderking8476
    @wilderking8476 2 роки тому +706

    It's a miracle that Wizard101 is still alive, one of the last of its kind of game still on the web. I thought for sure the shutting down of flash would have kicked its last breath out of it, but the P2P wall is so high, not even that could stop it

    • @Starbonsai
      @Starbonsai Рік тому +43

      Theres actually a fair bit of mmos still online, maplestory comes to mind, but they are mostly dying by this point.

    • @MelodyMelloLily
      @MelodyMelloLily Рік тому +5

      Wiz uses flash?

    • @futurtop1
      @futurtop1 Рік тому +13

      @@MelodyMelloLily no

    • @insertname9736
      @insertname9736 Рік тому +12

      There are some old-school MMOs still around, but mostly dead. Like Pirate 101, Age of Conan, and LOTRO. If anyone remembers them.

    • @theMyRadiowasTaken
      @theMyRadiowasTaken Рік тому +9

      ​@@insertname9736i mean pirate101 is from the same company as wizard101 im 99% sure so that makes sense

  • @Lulink013
    @Lulink013 2 роки тому +353

    It kind of reminds me of that one time Realm of the Mad God, an MMORPG with perma-death got hacked.
    The culprit spawned the final boss of the game multiple times in the nexus, the only truly safe area where there's no way to die, players tend to AFK, first spawn and teleport back to in case of an emergency. The servers were rolled back to restore all the lost characters but it's still a somewhat well known story shared among the playerbase more than half a decade later.
    There's also that one time WoW had a plague debuff that could spread from player to player inside a dungeon but somehow got out, causing a virtual pandemy where low level players would die to it but high level ones would shrug it of and bring it to other places, sometimes on purpose. Cities became unsafe to level level players, just like living in a city would have made the chance of contracting COVID higher years later.

    • @bashfulwolfo6499
      @bashfulwolfo6499 Рік тому +44

      God the WoW one is so infamous and I love it so much lmao
      The fact that it got the attention of disease researchers too is amazing

    • @poisonmantis4191
      @poisonmantis4191 Рік тому

      the wow plague got studied!!! it was a really useful way to study how people react to pandemics!!!!

    • @cometkeiko
      @cometkeiko Рік тому +1

      @@bashfulwolfo6499 WoW? what is that?

    • @gargielf
      @gargielf Рік тому +10

      @@cometkeiko world of Warcraft

    • @benayers8622
      @benayers8622 Рік тому

      woww caused covid shit thats deep

  • @SoniasWay
    @SoniasWay 2 роки тому +3970

    Izzy’s makeup skills always amaze me. She’s so creative and talented

    • @santiagoacosta3372
      @santiagoacosta3372 2 роки тому +41

      @Not gonna lie youtube bots 😀

    • @ZoeAlleyne
      @ZoeAlleyne 2 роки тому +127

      I have vision issues and trying to follow makeup tutorials when I cannot wear my glasses is a pain. She has inspired me to just say...fuck it, just do something interesting instead of perfect contouring.

    • @latewizard301
      @latewizard301 2 роки тому +6

      it's really damn cool i agree. not something i usually see i'll tell you that.

    • @Jennifer-fh8gm
      @Jennifer-fh8gm 2 роки тому +116

      They. Izzy uses they/them pronouns.

    • @Dionysius8421
      @Dionysius8421 2 роки тому +93

      @@Jennifer-fh8gm thought they used both she and they? Admittedly i hadnt checked in a bit
      Edit: just checked , she isn't WRONG but they appears more correct

  • @lastthingtwice520
    @lastthingtwice520 2 роки тому +837

    I don't think it was a disgruntled employee like most people would want to believe. Doing a stunt like that would cost you your entire career as chances of getting blacklisted (from the industry) is pretty high.
    Though maybe if this disgruntled employee wanted an out from the industry, I could see them hijacking the broadcast system as a last hurrah... though still unlikely that was the case in this situation.
    EDIT: It's just unlikely that a disgruntled employee would post Gen Z-type humor on the broadcast system as a way to get back at their crappy bosses instead of using it as an anonymous exposé by actually calling out people, if that makes sense. A third party hacker pretending to be an employee seems more plausible, to me at least.

    • @AstronomicalJelly
      @AstronomicalJelly 2 роки тому

      i agree, tbh im 99% sure it's some rando pretending to be an employee for the bit

    • @shibasandshelves
      @shibasandshelves 2 роки тому +69

      Yeah, I’m shocked at the idea that people would believe it genuinely was a disgruntled employee… but I guess it tracks with the player base being mostly kids. It’s a fun and exciting story if you’re a child.
      That’s not to say it would be in a company’s best interests to lie and cover it up if it was a disgruntled employee, just that not a single one of those messages make me think “disgruntled employee”

    • @nowandaround312
      @nowandaround312 2 роки тому +20

      @@shibasandshelves "Kings isle is the worst company i have ever worked for" sounds like a disgruntled employee to me, except that they spelled the company's name incorrectly. It was definitely a disgruntled player.

    • @falcon_arkaig
      @falcon_arkaig 2 роки тому +18

      @@nowandaround312 God it would've been hilarious if it was a mad employee. One day I hope "disgruntled employee hacks site and says stupid, vulgar shit" actually becomes a reality

    • @valwest9199
      @valwest9199 2 роки тому +7

      it could be someone who used to work there and didn't really care anymore bc they weren't going into that industry anyways? getting intern and/or temp vibes tbh. otherwise yeah it just sounds like a disgruntled player

  • @Paradox_Incognito
    @Paradox_Incognito 2 роки тому +887

    As much of a problem as this was, "The wizard police are after me" will never fail to send me into giggles

    • @ddjsoyenby
      @ddjsoyenby Рік тому +5

      same i busted out laughing at these messages.

    • @lunarequine7734
      @lunarequine7734 Рік тому +3

      I stopped playing wiz about a year ago, but I saw Moist Critikal make a video about this and I headed to Twitter to check out the messages for myself. The wizard police are after me and Heisenberg’s monologue had me rolling the first time I read them. 😂

    • @BugjoeCEO
      @BugjoeCEO Рік тому

      WIZARD POLICE REAL

    • @Most-sane-deltarune-fan
      @Most-sane-deltarune-fan 2 місяці тому

      @@lunarequine7734 What do ye be meanin' by Heisenberg and theirrrrrr monologue?

  • @notpenumbra1342
    @notpenumbra1342 2 роки тому +257

    Izzy I have to warn you, Established Titles just got outed as a scam. I’m so sorry, it’s very messed up

  • @theodorehodbor5080
    @theodorehodbor5080 2 роки тому +104

    I lean towards it being a hacker mostly because if an employee did this no self-respecting software company would ever hire them again after doing something like this. Unless their treatment at Kingsisle was *that* bad to the point they were willing to exit the industry as a whole I doubt any normal person would be willing to risk a industry-wide blacklist for a meme like this.

  • @Feffen
    @Feffen 2 роки тому +719

    Adding to the banning problem- me and my brother used to play wizard 101 religiously. We never used the chat or did anything to break the guidelines, we were just two 8 year olds havin a jolly ol time on the fun wizard game. I want to say I got banned a total of 3 times for no reason and this really turned me away from the game especially because I had spent money on it. I watched as people tried to spread hatespeech and had no consequences for their actions while I was sitting there inmy little boots sobbing.

    • @Dumpsterhuggies
      @Dumpsterhuggies 2 роки тому +10

      >spread hatespeech
      Cry

    • @themyofmy
      @themyofmy Рік тому +194

      @@Dumpsterhuggies arent you the edgiest little wizard boy

    • @Feffen
      @Feffen Рік тому +158

      @@Dumpsterhuggies I did cry, did you not see me crying in my little boots sobbing?

    • @ettaz
      @ettaz Рік тому +67

      @@themyofmy your comment perfectly sums up the entire Harry Potter series

    • @themyofmy
      @themyofmy Рік тому +23

      @@ettaz LOL

  • @Skittle2296
    @Skittle2296 2 роки тому +580

    I remember my mom didn't let me play this because she said it's witchcraft however I played it on some scam site and got us a virus. Yay.

    • @blackdressbess195
      @blackdressbess195 2 роки тому +28

      I played this in secret at night as a kid for the same reason lol

    • @wasperfly
      @wasperfly 2 роки тому +91

      That's wasn't a virus, it was a wizard curse.

    • @imhidingasecret
      @imhidingasecret 2 роки тому +14

      lol you and me had the same childhood, my parents didnt let me play cause witchcraft, so i was only allowed to play toontown.

    • @Skittle2296
      @Skittle2296 2 роки тому +15

      @@imhidingasecret I played something called jumpstart online 💀

    • @danielv6281
      @danielv6281 2 роки тому +6

      @@Skittle2296 I did too! The game was so fun

  • @sammas7816
    @sammas7816 2 роки тому +696

    Wizard 101 is such a deep obscure memory to me, and it's very cool to see it talked about!

    • @dynjmay
      @dynjmay 2 роки тому +2

      I have spent hours of my childhood on this game

    • @trevorthabest161
      @trevorthabest161 2 роки тому +5

      Same bro I remember waking up and playing wizard 101 then logging on to animal jam the rest of the day

    • @kendoll987
      @kendoll987 2 роки тому +5

      my dad was on the sound design team!

    • @arareanddifferenttune3130
      @arareanddifferenttune3130 2 роки тому +2

      @@kendoll987 woah that’s so cool!

    • @swirlybun9616
      @swirlybun9616 2 роки тому +2

      I remember just creating new accounts until hitting a paywall because I didn’t know how to go about asking my mom. Good times.

  • @Junebugpog
    @Junebugpog 2 роки тому +185

    I wasn’t playing when the incident happened BUT I did play when they gave everyone free membership for a couple days afterwards and it was fun! I leveled up my character a bunch and got further in the game than I’ve ever done. It also makes me realize just how paywalled the game is! There’s so many areas limited to members only it’s crazy! It’s also can be difficult to level up your character without a membership as well. I also chose death magic as my school as well! :D

    • @lumi6945
      @lumi6945 Рік тому +6

      I played when they gave the free membership in the 12 days of the spiral event, and I finished Mooshu and I'm not in Dragonspyre! (too bad it expired 😭) I chose fire school bc I love dragons

    • @wizardlizard55555
      @wizardlizard55555 Рік тому +5

      @@lumi6945 You’re gonna love Dragonspyre then! It’s basically the fire school dragon world. I also played during the spiral event and when it ended I caved and got a month membership lol

    • @Most-sane-deltarune-fan
      @Most-sane-deltarune-fan 5 днів тому

      @@wizardlizard55555 Maybe come over to Valkemare! It's the world of Dragon Cave, an online game that's been going since 2006 and still continues today.

  • @heymae_
    @heymae_ 2 роки тому +68

    My entire main character just got deleted at one point. My parents had spent money on it for me as well. I had different mounts but sadly never made it past the giant tree to travel to other places. Her name was Sabrina and I lowkey will miss her.

  • @annabanana1680
    @annabanana1680 2 роки тому +420

    As someone who still plays Wizard101 religiously to this day thank you for covering this. I never personally had any issues with Kingsisle up until a few years ago when the game REALLY started feeling cash-grabby. (The crown store now opens up when you load the game and there is no way to turn off that feature. Stuff like that rubs me the wrong way.)
    Wizard101 has brought me so much joy over the past decade and it breaks my heart to know the employees and game developers who made that possible get treated so poorly. And it makes me worried the game will shut down sooner rather than later. I will be so sad when it inevitably dies.

    • @mjangelvortex
      @mjangelvortex 2 роки тому +18

      They were like that with their other games so this behavior sadly doesn't surprise me.

    • @CrazyAlienLady051
      @CrazyAlienLady051 2 роки тому +9

      That's the issue with the mmo genre in General. Majority of the best games overtime turn into pay 2 win grind fest games with sparkly cosmetics that don't line up with the aesthetic and theme of the game (no joke, I logged back in the game only to find the Commons filled up with people riding motorbikes, glittery lion mounts and giant mech suits) you're playing with a combat system attached to it where free 2 play users are spanked for not entering their credit card numbers on the first day and whales (a term used to describe people who just buy their way through the game and have a bigger advantage against someone who didn't spend money) make up most of the community due to the game only catering to them. Which is really sad cause, I always loved mmo's like Wizard101 but you can hardly enjoy the game because because the developers would rather suck every nickel and Penny out of you than allow you to have a good time.

    • @xRaiofSunshine
      @xRaiofSunshine Рік тому

      @@CrazyAlienLady051 Don’t forget the squeaky rubber ducks. It’s funny, but it’s not wizardly ;_;

  • @harenava1451
    @harenava1451 2 роки тому +179

    As a long time player and die hard fan of the game, this is the best publicity the game has gotten in years, simply by virtue of it being the only publicity the game has gotten in years.

    • @DefaultSeaTurtle
      @DefaultSeaTurtle 2 роки тому +10

      There's a type of style that humor from the Wizard101 community has and this comment is a perfect distillation of it.

  • @CairoCreations
    @CairoCreations 2 роки тому +160

    Born to late to explore the world
    Born to early to explore the universe
    Born just in time to play wizard 101

  • @embryy1098
    @embryy1098 2 роки тому +141

    the fact that wizard101 is still up and running in november 2022 is the most shocking info in this video to me LMAO. but in terms of other early 2000s online kids games fantage would be a fun one to see covered. i don't really remember there ever being anything that really happened with the game but i was so heartbroken when it shut down, i'd play that game for hours

    • @IronBlaze77
      @IronBlaze77 Рік тому +5

      Same! I love going on the roller coaster for minutes on end and customizing my character (even if I was only a free-to-play user. That game was pretty great from what I remember (which isn’t much).
      I found out it shutdowns couple of years ago (and the information I will now divulge to you), but a fan-made private server called _Fantage Legacy_ was in the works a day after its shutdown, only to be threatened with legal action by the Fantage team.
      A successor to _Fantage Legacy_
      titled _Pixel Park_ was shown off and the first public beta was launched on November 28th, 2019, but the game was closed on April 30th due to low funds and public support.
      Hearing about all this after the fact hit me deeply.

    • @alexisschiffer4830
      @alexisschiffer4830 Рік тому +5

      Yes! There was reportedly a lot of drama behind the scenes (employees weren’t happy) and because of Flash, a lot of things could be exploited/manipulated in the game.
      I miss it so much though. I would love to see an in-depth video essay on Fantage lol.

    • @alexisschiffer4830
      @alexisschiffer4830 Рік тому +2

      @@IronBlaze77A former user who tried giving promises of a new Fantage Legacy style game scammed a bunch of people apparently. His username was “Camfroggy” or Mace/Mason IRL? Idk. Some people mentioned it.
      There was a lot of drama behind the scenes (the company wasn’t known for getting positive reviews either) so I would like to see Izzy’s take on the game because they’ve mentioned it before.

    • @jasperjazzie
      @jasperjazzie Рік тому

      if you know what wun/wuhn means you qualify for a veteran's discount /j

    • @Most-sane-deltarune-fan
      @Most-sane-deltarune-fan 5 днів тому

      @@jasperjazzie Are they made up pronouns?

  • @twindrill2852
    @twindrill2852 2 роки тому +357

    This game was my childhood. Wasn’t here during this incident because I’ve ultimately moved on, but this certainly was an…experience

    • @loser4274
      @loser4274 2 роки тому +1

      i played wizard 101 around that time and i didn't see this 💀

    • @burrowed3864
      @burrowed3864 2 роки тому

      Same!

  • @milesbyt
    @milesbyt 2 роки тому +170

    0:00 Intro
    1:17 Shirt and Sponsor
    3:17 Part One: Wizard101 is a Powder Keg
    7:55 Part Two: A Bunch Of Kids are Scarred For Life
    10:06 Part Three: KingsIsle Scrambles to Save Face
    19:41 Outro

    • @Nflhztos
      @Nflhztos 2 роки тому +2

      Thx

    • @milesbyt
      @milesbyt 2 роки тому

      @@Nflhztos ua-cam.com/video/FWkJ86JqlPA/v-deo.html

  • @mari98_
    @mari98_ 2 роки тому +74

    As someone from the same gen who didn’t have computer access until a lot older than other kids, I live vicariously through your nostalgia recaps

  • @raccoon.pies.
    @raccoon.pies. 2 роки тому +55

    I feel like the “disgruntled employee gone rogue” is too much of a trope and if it was they would probably say like “they underpaid us” or “i haven’t seen my kids in 6 years”

  • @roserkk
    @roserkk Рік тому +12

    in the tutorial the headmaster told me to wait a moment and i waited forever, multiple times after restarts. i was like 8 and asked my parents what does a moment actually mean and i remember them talking to a doctor about my comment. i feel like that was adding into some sort of diagnosis. thanks wizard101. still haunts me to this day

  • @AntonConstanti
    @AntonConstanti 2 роки тому +355

    This video just unlocked a memory I didn't even know I had. Every time I try to tell someone about Wizard101 they act as if I hallucinated the whole thing. Finally, proof that it exists.

    • @ma.2089
      @ma.2089 2 роки тому +24

      Same for the old Disney MMOs. Like fairy hollow and the pirates one. They even had a book made to advertise them

    • @The_Bird_Bird_Harder
      @The_Bird_Bird_Harder 2 роки тому +7

      @@ma.2089 I remember fairy hollow I loved it so much as a kid!

    • @ClefairyRox
      @ClefairyRox 2 роки тому +5

      I remember seeing the advertisements for this game, Toontown, and Fusionfall on Cartoon Network back in the day

    • @madmuffin4484
      @madmuffin4484 2 роки тому

      I think W101 is still running? Not sure tho

    • @ma.2089
      @ma.2089 2 роки тому

      @@madmuffin4484 it is, it’s just a very old game that not everyone knows about and has played

  • @Glory2Snowstar
    @Glory2Snowstar 2 роки тому +116

    No hack will ever compare to my two friends spending 14,000 of my Coins in Club Penguin during our sleepover on Harry Potter merch and two Puffles with misspelled names.
    I had to surf so dang much after that.

    • @yogabagaba4602
      @yogabagaba4602 2 роки тому +13

      That’s the most beautiful thing I’ve ever heard and needs to be on the wiki’s controversies 🤣

    • @Moocow2003
      @Moocow2003 5 днів тому +1

      Lol. I used a coin generator and donated like 500k coins to the charity pot at Christmas. Felt like a real philanthropist

    • @Most-sane-deltarune-fan
      @Most-sane-deltarune-fan 5 днів тому

      @@yogabagaba4602 Yeah!

  • @evil_death_roll
    @evil_death_roll 2 роки тому +165

    God I loved Wizard 101, I never got a membership so grinding to buy the castle house was the biggest achievement I ever hit. It started me on my love for fishing minigames, as well. Lots of fond memories.

    • @pinkpeppers5580
      @pinkpeppers5580 2 роки тому +1

      Piggle toss for the win!!! 🤣

    • @burrowed3864
      @burrowed3864 2 роки тому +1

      Oh my gosh! Yes! I remember I would spend so much time going to other peoples houses and playing tag. Wonderful!

    • @evil_death_roll
      @evil_death_roll Місяць тому

      Update: got myself a membership as a treat. playing the game as we speak. kid me would be very happy :)

  • @Melissa-zr6zw
    @Melissa-zr6zw 2 роки тому +36

    I never played Wizard 101 but I do fondly remember its commercials on TV in like 2009! given how old it is I definitely didn’t expect for this hack to take place in 2022 💀💀

  • @ArmundJay
    @ArmundJay 2 роки тому +35

    JUSTICE FOR BRADLEY!
    lmaooo as much as i want it to have been an employee, i really doubt it.
    the string of messages is fucking hilarious, though, and i wish i had been online that day.
    KI really do need to tone it down with the crown requirements. W101 and P101 are so nostalgic and comfy for me, I'd love to be able to actually play through the massive stories in them sometime.
    sigh.
    edit: "the wizard police are after me" is absolutely iconic; i need it on a tshirt immediately.
    also, Storm School for life!

    • @dontbesav
      @dontbesav Рік тому +5

      The game needs to be free up until at least Krokotopia so players can actually get a feel for the game!

    • @emilyofjane
      @emilyofjane 3 місяці тому

      You mean to tell me the game lost mainstream relevance a decade ago and they’re STILL trying to nickel and dime you?
      I was thinking about redownloading Wizard 101, but if the excessive paywalls still haven’t improved, then I think I’ll pass.

  • @pachimarie
    @pachimarie 2 роки тому +102

    i remember being devastated when my dad told me the computer could only handle one game so we had to choose between wizard and pirate 101😭

    • @nowandaround312
      @nowandaround312 2 роки тому +7

      LOL that's so good, he found a way to make you quit a game and you couldn't even be mad at him for it because it was the computer's fault. I'm so sorry 😭

    • @somerandomgoblin2583
      @somerandomgoblin2583 2 роки тому +3

      THANK YOU for acknowledging pirate 101. i loved that game so much, even if i only played it for a little while. wizard 101 was amazing when i was a kid, but i think pirate 101 was a bit cooler.
      i was a witchdoctor and storm wizard, because Of Course I Was

  • @checkerhat327
    @checkerhat327 2 роки тому +46

    Just gonna put this out there. "Now that we've established the camel's back, let's introduce the straw." is now one of my favorite sentences spoken.

  • @tem8596
    @tem8596 2 роки тому +132

    I think I screamed when I saw this pop up. Wizard101 was such a core part of my childhood, thank you for covering it 😭

  • @celery7094
    @celery7094 2 роки тому +61

    18:28 - this type of joke never fails to crack me up and Izzy’s delivery is just so consistently perfect. A true chefs kiss moment 🤌 in an already Ramsay-level video

  • @funnyhappystudios
    @funnyhappystudios 2 роки тому +69

    After a four year break from Wizard101 because we didn’t have a strong enough internet connection, we finally got back into the game THE MONTH AFTER this hack all happened. I think to me it would’ve been neat to actually experience this moment in history firsthand. Sad I hadn’t gotten back onto Wizard101 sooner 😅

  • @laurenfinney5390
    @laurenfinney5390 2 роки тому +49

    There is something so so comforting about being a 20-something and having been obsessedddd with MMOs when I was like 10 and feeling like I was such a lil nerd and hid that I liked them and now I relive those memories with so much nostalgia and happiness. PLEASE DO FREE REALMS

  • @Jack_Saint_Archive
    @Jack_Saint_Archive 2 роки тому +574

    *I love when Izzzyzzz said "It's hackin' time" and hacked all over the Wizard101. Truly one of the videos of all time.*

    • @Jack_Saint_Archive
      @Jack_Saint_Archive 2 роки тому +10

      It is a Morbius reference 💀

    • @Jack_Saint_Archive
      @Jack_Saint_Archive 2 роки тому +20

      @Chad 007 No, thanks ...

    • @ma.2089
      @ma.2089 2 роки тому +26

      Gotta say…these morb memes are getting pretty painful at this point. It’s everywhere. I’ve not experienced an undying meme that was once funny but overdone to the point of losing all humor in a LOOOONG time.
      I even prefer just “morbin time”. At least it isn’t the same format and is just 2 words.

    • @bernkastel7438
      @bernkastel7438 2 роки тому +9

      @@ma.2089 It's so annoying now, it was kinda funny at first.

    • @BrainsofaWeirdArtist
      @BrainsofaWeirdArtist 2 роки тому +5

      Bruh this is the 4th time in a row stop

  • @briannenurse4640
    @briannenurse4640 2 роки тому +200

    I absolutely adore this look! And once again, thank you for your service to humanity as an internet archaeologist

  • @morgue.dweller
    @morgue.dweller 2 роки тому +21

    I loved this game as a kid but my parents never agreed to get me a membership, so I'd always get stuck at Giant's Alley or whatever it was called. I had a Toontown membership and I wasn't allowed anything else.

  • @sterthester736
    @sterthester736 2 роки тому +22

    One of my best memories, followed by the worst that killed my enjoyment of the game and led to me quitting for good, was when the mount shop stuff for Crowns was out. Specifically there was a glitch a few friends of mine had found, that managed to change the crowns to gold in the UI and accepted gold, which allowed us free players to buy some for still expensive mounts. I used it to get wings. It was fun and I enjoyed it, focusing on visiting homes of friends and random people because I could not get a membership.
    Of course, they learned about this glitch and fixed it. But in the process also removed the mount and didn't refund the gold spent. So I logged on to find it and the gold I had spent hours earning all gone. Logged out and never logged back in. First time I saw anything about it afterwards was this very situation and I honestly just find it hilarious.
    I have to admit, part of me kind of hopes W101 goes the way of Toontown and the community run free Toontown Rewritten that came afterwards.

  • @SzandorQuinn
    @SzandorQuinn 2 роки тому +72

    as both an avid Wizard101 player from 2009 all the way to this day and an enjoyer of your videos... I find the fact that you're covering this to be a wonderful blending of two amazing things to make an even more amazing outcome. Thank you, Izzy, for covering this.
    Edited to add: I'm REALLY looking forward to that Wizard101 deep dive video!

  • @moshlingfan9007
    @moshlingfan9007 2 роки тому +139

    Izzy's channel is so educational. I didn't even know Wizard101 still existed.

  • @gearguts7259
    @gearguts7259 2 роки тому +33

    the inherent hilarity of a family friendly kids game getting its filters down and filling the game with swears.
    From the Neopocalypse to Club Penguin Ban Speedruns to this, there's nothing like it.

  • @antagonizingprotagonist8721
    @antagonizingprotagonist8721 2 роки тому +20

    Wizards101, poptropica, angry birds, and where my water were all games that I played all the time. I didn't even know this happened. It's crazy how you can forget something that was such a large part of your childhood
    I also always picked death.

    • @genericname2747
      @genericname2747 Рік тому

      I was a life wizard, but then I realized death was cooler, so I ended up as a life wizard who will kill you.

  • @barftuuub
    @barftuuub 2 роки тому +509

    oh god, i remember when i got hacked on there, i literally cried myself to sleep for like two months. all my money, gone. all my items, gone even worse, the person was my best friend. this was like in 3rd grade 😭😭
    anyways, izzyzz is amazingly beautiful with their makeup as always !!! she is the prettiest person evrrr

    • @ma.2089
      @ma.2089 2 роки тому

      What an awful friend, holy shit. Sorry.

    • @lycheemyusic
      @lycheemyusic 2 роки тому +4

      Bruh

    • @dragonwhiskers42
      @dragonwhiskers42 2 роки тому +3

      Oof

    • @barftuuub
      @barftuuub 2 роки тому +4

      @@ma.2089 its ok LOL she did other stuff like gaslighting me but 😨😨

    • @seal8092
      @seal8092 2 роки тому +26

      This is literally heartbreaking, wizard101 was so stingy with its currency which makes it worse... ;-;

  • @skelebratz
    @skelebratz 2 роки тому +12

    the horrible paywalls and stingy pricing is also present in Pirate101, another game by KingsIsle

  • @elizabeth7sj222
    @elizabeth7sj222 2 роки тому +79

    If you want real journalism Izzy never fails

  • @IronAidan260
    @IronAidan260 2 роки тому +15

    I remember I actually found a way past the paywall as a kid. Basically if you teleport to someone with a membership who’s in one of the member only worlds, then you jump over the paywall. The only problem is if you do anything like travel to a new world or even log out and log in again you get booted back to the hub world. Still, me and my friends had a lot of fun time back in the day.

  • @atelophobicz
    @atelophobicz 2 роки тому +54

    Izzys outfits and makeup will never fail to amaze me

  • @peytoia
    @peytoia 2 роки тому +6

    “info: the wizard police are after me” is gonna be bouncing around my brain like a vcr logo probably until i die

  • @benjaminmontag4749
    @benjaminmontag4749 2 роки тому +11

    Sooo pumped for your deep dive on the game as a whole. I was so obsessed with this game but as a way of socializing, not gaming. I was sooo invested in the relationships and deep into the drama of them 😭 The weird codes and shit you had to use to say things that were censored otherwise. The way you could use certain built in gestures inappropriately. That one 2 story castle with the railing you could glitch through and clip into whatever object you had placed on the floor directly below. The way that specific glitch was used 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ (if you know, you know) kid drama was ridiculously intense there for me 💀

  • @plastic0995
    @plastic0995 2 роки тому +17

    Wizard101 is always gonna be the game I'm always gonna forget exists and then be reminded about it and remember the most insignificant details of my experience playing it

  • @moshlingfan9007
    @moshlingfan9007 2 роки тому +47

    Bradley is kinda a legend for that. Those messages were genuinely hilarious thank you for covering this.

  • @xavibun
    @xavibun 2 роки тому +99

    This is the funniest thing to have ever happened to a game I played extensively during my childhood

  • @lilmickey1168
    @lilmickey1168 2 роки тому +2

    I never myself got to play wizard 101 but I remember the constant tv ads as a kid coming on for wizard 101, movie star plantet, American girl doll, webkinz

  • @proudkaostan3265
    @proudkaostan3265 2 роки тому +6

    this game literally started my computer addiction when i was like 11yo even tho i didnt even know basic english, cant remember if there was a Polish version.. i loved the game and every time i got stuck with the plot because i couldnt understand what to do id just create a new account and start all over THIS VIDEO BROUGHT SO MUCH MEMORIES BACK😭😭😭😭😭

  • @SakuraStallion
    @SakuraStallion 2 роки тому +186

    If I had a nickel for how many times Wizard101 was hacked during its birthday I'd have TWO nickels! It isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.

    • @Xx_Oleander_xX
      @Xx_Oleander_xX 2 роки тому

      thats gotta be the best birthday gift!

  • @arrayave2526
    @arrayave2526 2 роки тому +561

    “The wizard police are after me” - me running away from the Vatican after freeing all the kids

    • @that_deadeyegamer7920
      @that_deadeyegamer7920 2 роки тому +26

      Fuck I was smoking and this killed me lmao 😭

    • @humanperson2480
      @humanperson2480 2 роки тому +5

      Damn, that’s dark XD

    • @MelloriNoMori
      @MelloriNoMori 2 роки тому +8

      This had me release a sound I didn't think I was capable of making.

  • @sylveonpropaganda
    @sylveonpropaganda 2 роки тому +14

    i always love how izzy's makeup sort of matches whatever she talks about in a video, each makeup look just makes sense for whatever video she's doing

  • @tangoraptor1422
    @tangoraptor1422 11 місяців тому +4

    Tbh the sheer variety and randomness in the messages leads me to believe it was a group of hackers or employees just fucking around after someone got a backdoor into the system. From the inconsistent tone to the style changes with the colors and fonts to the odd changes in voice, it just makes more sense to me if it was at lease a couple people messing around

  • @appleebees1668
    @appleebees1668 Рік тому +3

    Ahaha the stuff about the paywalls is so funny. I used to play with a friend who had a membership, and still sometimes do, and we can only play together during special events when the whole world is open. It's awful.

  • @leannedomingo5011
    @leannedomingo5011 2 роки тому +54

    I remember being part of the school of ice wizards and being afraid of the school of death wizards. Anyone I came across that was part of that school, I would avoid them like the plague.

  • @CaitlinKoi
    @CaitlinKoi 2 роки тому +10

    Just one minute in and I can't not comment how I love whenever you add some colour to your nose, it's always so adorable!

  • @gammaguyyt
    @gammaguyyt 2 роки тому +35

    its always the "online kids virtual worlds" that have the CRAZIEST things happen lol.

  • @michu3453
    @michu3453 2 роки тому +20

    i just wanted to thank you, izzy, for giving me (and many others) a safe space to celebrate our childhood!
    your videos are amazing, and they fill me with excitement every time i come across one!

  • @soporific_hollow
    @soporific_hollow 2 роки тому +1

    I had to stop playing for like 6-7 years because a bug made me completely lose the main quest in dragonspyre. We tried to contact customer support with no solution until about 2020. Definitely very buggy and I ended up not playing for years. From the time I was a child to an adult. Absolutely wild.

  • @PrepareToHi
    @PrepareToHi 2 роки тому +16

    "so now that we've established the camel's back, let's introduce the straw" is such a good line

  • @RegsaGC
    @RegsaGC 2 роки тому +12

    Yea I have a hard time imagining a professional inside the company doing this. If it became known who did it, that person would literally never work anywhere in tech ever again.
    And if someone was that pissed, I believe they could have done more damage. But they would have had to plan for it to happen quickly before getting stopped.

  • @salems_lot
    @salems_lot 2 роки тому +32

    literally was so happy when I saw this notification 😭 Wizard101 was my whole childhood, I've been playing since 2012 and I still try to keep up with the game from time to time.

  • @ZuzannaFavesDie
    @ZuzannaFavesDie 2 роки тому +4

    some extra things about the situation:
    1. after the hacking incident, KI actually made the whole game free to play for the rest of the month (it was about ~10 days i think) which was huge imo
    2. the server messages actually only appeared on one server out of dozens, and it was pretty late at night in the US, so it isn't like everyone playing the game at the time saw it
    i'm not too shocked that this happened either, i wish i was online at the time but 😭 i'm glad to see it getting coverage. i think almost the entire wizard101 playerbase is adults playing the game out of nostalgia. it's rare that i come across someone who is younger than 16 playing

  • @theonlydrankenjuice
    @theonlydrankenjuice Рік тому +1

    I just saw a wizard 101 advertisement so when I saw it i immediately went back to this video

  • @chloekathleen
    @chloekathleen 2 роки тому +31

    Izzy, single-handedly CRUSHING that pastel goth clown aesthetic 💙🖤💜

    • @davidhong1934
      @davidhong1934 2 роки тому +2

      Apparently, she defeated a clown general during the 2016 clown invasion and used it's blood as war paint to scare off the other clowns

  • @wxndplumes
    @wxndplumes 2 роки тому +8

    God I used to play this game as a child and this unlocked a core memory.... This shit sounded absolutely hilarious but those poor kids 💀💀💀💀

  • @freshcupofangst
    @freshcupofangst 2 роки тому +8

    0:05 Izzy's accent made me think she...said something other than "myth" for a second...

  • @ghostiezoja
    @ghostiezoja 2 роки тому +1

    earlier this year i dropped like $40 on a pack that was supposed to give me cool items and 6 months of membership or something and it just didn’t work. i contacted the support so many times but no matter what they did i just never got my stuff. and they didn’t like refund me or anything

  • @soulsmindpalace
    @soulsmindpalace 2 роки тому +6

    I am sick, laying in bedrn and your video actually makes me feel less like garbage and more like a human again. Thank you so much for all the work you put into your videos.

  • @Sierracat7807
    @Sierracat7807 2 роки тому +9

    nothing to do with the hacking but i never got to play this game bc the commercials always said “must be 10 years or older” and i was afraid that if i played it someone would come arrest me or something

  • @PinkWytchBytch
    @PinkWytchBytch 2 роки тому +13

    Omg I remember wishing I could play this as a child, I grew up in a house where the only internet was on my biological fathers flip phone so anyone who wanted to look something up had to ask for his permission to use it. I used to sketch themed art based on the unique style, it’s so interesting to catch up on the drama of a childhood want I never got to try

  • @Squ_iddy
    @Squ_iddy 2 роки тому +11

    Every single one of your videos makes me take a trip down memory lane and it's so surreal that I played Wizard101 a decade ago

  • @PeppermintMoose
    @PeppermintMoose 2 роки тому +3

    I love learning about online communities I know nothing about, and this level of relatively harmless crime is delightful. I feel like the hacker was an associated third party...but I guess I assumed that an employee would have been caught. I guess that may not be the case.

  • @sharrkan9177
    @sharrkan9177 Рік тому +2

    What I really want to know is whether or not someone ACTUALLY went to Room 102 in the building, hoping that the person responsible was actually there

  • @pot_8_oes
    @pot_8_oes 2 роки тому +7

    watching this happen in real time was so surreal, the subreddit was in chaos for days and everyone was scrambling to find out what happened

  • @overrated1fishyy
    @overrated1fishyy 2 роки тому +16

    This was a very weird video to stumble on when looking for something to watch while playing Wizard101

  • @ruiqiumai323
    @ruiqiumai323 2 роки тому +5

    I started playing W101 when I was at a low point in college, and I go back to grind badges every year. Totally didn’t know about any of this.
    I got a membership once, then decided to permanently unlock zones as I felt up to it. The upside of it is that there’s a lot of weird/mean players who hang out in the Commons, Unicorn Way, etc, but once you get to different worlds people tend to be pretty chill.
    I’m nervous, but interested in hearing more that’s gone down that I’m not aware of.

  • @lhumanoideerrantdesinterne8598
    @lhumanoideerrantdesinterne8598 Рік тому +10

    Yep. I'm convinced it's not an employee. These posts don't seem angry as much as trying to have fun. If that was a disgruntled employee, they would probably be more specific about there issues and certainly less eager to make jokes and nonsense comments.

  • @katherinestormcatcher6663
    @katherinestormcatcher6663 Рік тому +2

    i still play and i remember when i was a kid i wanted to work at kingsile. i was 10. ofc i didnt really find an issue with the company. but as i kept playing, there became this aura of hatred and betrayal surrounding the company and how it treated its playerbase. there was this feeling that kingslie kept caring more and more about the money. they ban players for no reason, flag players for not reason, and its gotten so buggy recently. its so so buggy now. if you start playing the game now and see how many bugs, the game used to work nearly flawlessly, bugs were rare.

  • @tranquilitybases
    @tranquilitybases 2 роки тому +11

    i think the incredibly angry message from kingsisle ceo signed “the ceo” in all lowercase really solidified the fakeness, but it is still hilarious nonetheless

  • @Flac_the_Wave
    @Flac_the_Wave 2 роки тому +11

    "Wizard 101 is a wholesome virtual world for kids"
    Say that to the secret bosses and later areas who can kick the asses of even adults, this game has a innocent beginning but it gets hard af

  • @cleanfromathousandcuts
    @cleanfromathousandcuts 2 роки тому +8

    I can't wait for the full wiz video. I've been chronically online since I was like 6, with computers and games being my special interest. Every-time I find a video of yours I am just filled with nostalgia and happiness.

  • @justynabebak-szczucka4426
    @justynabebak-szczucka4426 Рік тому +1

    I didn't recall Wizard 101 having a story at all and it makes sense now as I was a poor kid that couldn't afford memberships

  • @roxasdeviluke317
    @roxasdeviluke317 2 роки тому +1

    I used to watch my friend play this back in high school and tried to play it when my discord server got into it but couldn't get past the log in screen after multiple attempts to start a new game and just quit