Why Do We Love the Horned Owl?

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  • Опубліковано 29 лис 2023
  • Today, we take a look at one of my favorite Clan light mechs, the Horned Owl!
    Horned Owl MF Record Sheet: www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/vx166a...
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    IlClan Rec Guide 11
    Project Development: Johannes Heidler
    Development Assistance: Aaron Cahall, Chris Wheeler
    BattleTech Line Developer: Ray Arrastia
    Assistant Line Developer: Aaron Cahall
    Writing: Keith Hann, Johannes Heidler, Edward McEneely, Luke
    Robertson, Elliotte C. Want
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    Art Director: Anthony Scroggins
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    Scroggins
    Some iconography my edit of the battlemech line art was purchased from Ken Turner on ArtStation
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  • @Accentaur
    @Accentaur 6 місяців тому +74

    "This is no Zaku, boy!"

    • @Sierra026
      @Sierra026 6 місяців тому +9

      It's a GUUNDAAAA-- oh wait, wrong sci-fi franchise.

    • @NeroLordofChaos
      @NeroLordofChaos 6 місяців тому +6

      ​@@Sierra026IT'S AN ATLASSSSSSS

    • @ThugShakers4Christ
      @ThugShakers4Christ 6 місяців тому +9

      What a gouf

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому +16

      **Confused screaming**

    • @andrewfsheffield
      @andrewfsheffield 6 місяців тому +2

      Zakus and Gundams are about the same height as an Atlas I believe.

  • @justincase9282
    @justincase9282 6 місяців тому +58

    I love this "not a zaku." It is about as close to perfect as a light 6/9/6 invasion Era clan mech can be.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому +7

      Hard to improve upon, for sure.

    • @RoninWolfos
      @RoninWolfos 2 місяці тому

      I thought “Man if that was in olive drab or red that’d look like a Zaku..” 😂

  • @meining-mech4378
    @meining-mech4378 6 місяців тому +18

    I dig the Horned Owl at its base variant. I also love its somewhat “Zeon-esque” look to it, and find the tidbit about it originally being an acquatic model calls to mind the Hy-Gogg or Z’Gok from MSG-0080: War In A Pocket. I used to have the rare FanTech casting of the Horned Owl 2, actually a couple of them. Wouldn’t mind having an old RP version again.

  • @EdmondHiggins
    @EdmondHiggins 6 місяців тому +7

    My favorite thing about the Horned Owl is all the amazing paint jobs that I have seen.
    A Zaku, Samus Aran, Iron Man, an actual owl to name a few.

  • @Geeko170
    @Geeko170 6 місяців тому +22

    Sadly my only experience with the Horned Owl suffered from fickle dice. And also a Kit Fox V point blanking a Locust with an Arrow 4.
    It startled me.

  • @sanguiniusonvacation1803
    @sanguiniusonvacation1803 6 місяців тому +4

    Ah, abother glorious victory for Goliath Scorpion!

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому +1

      >Want to design a construction mech
      >Accidentally create an awesome 2nd line brawling light
      That's so Scorpion...

    • @sanguiniusonvacation1803
      @sanguiniusonvacation1803 6 місяців тому

      @@MechanicalFrog masters of failing up.

  • @lumijo2407
    @lumijo2407 6 місяців тому +8

    The Horned Owl is among my favourite mechs in the game, purely down to its design. Of all the Clan mechs in the game, this is one of only two that I go out of my way to barter with others in an attempt to justify using it "outside of faction", just because of how much I love it. Its history as a deep-sea construction mech transitioning to a non-threatening colonial defense mech, as well as its popularity in the Inner Sphere later on, it just ticks all the boxes for "sick as hell." And, I mean... C'mon. It IS a Zaku.
    In a Clan Star, it pairs with a Vapor Eagle (the other of the two aforementioned mechs) really well. Those two birds I've found are capable of fighting well out of their own weight class, together.
    The MF variant is fun and all, but the easy way out for the variant could have been to take the Snow Raven route and turned it into a Zero-G variation much like you'd find with a Shadow Hawk IIC 7 or a Goshawk II 3. That way you'd have had an excuse not to touch the various variants that you like while having the excuse of "specialized" to hide behind.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому

      It's a good one and it really does pair well and work well even among multiples. It's hard to resist the drawing power of that CLPL.

    • @KillerOrca
      @KillerOrca 6 місяців тому +1

      Also turning it into a Zero-G variant would make it even MORE Zaku-like. Just give it an actuator operated AC and a hatchet...

  • @ajax31100
    @ajax31100 6 місяців тому +13

    Horned owl is a great pick. It is a go to for me if I'm making a clan light or medium star.

  • @donfreeborn2986
    @donfreeborn2986 9 днів тому +1

    I haven’t played a ton of the tabletop yet, but I love pulse lasers on my clan mechs. I don’t like paying the ridiculously high costs of higher skilled pilots, so the pulse kinda gives me that bonus gunnery without needing to pay the extra BV for a veteran.

  • @Sierra026
    @Sierra026 6 місяців тому +6

    Faced off against a Horned Owl, controlled by my best friend. I can confirm that it is quite a formidable light mech, and I hope to add it to my growing Jade Falcon Touman.

  • @scytheseven9173
    @scytheseven9173 6 місяців тому +8

    Great job on the video!
    I'm a big fan of the original Horned Owl, along with the 3 and 7 variants. That T-Comp ER PPC is terrifying, and jumping 210 meters is great. You're right that the Horned Owl 6 is an atrocity. A CT Clan Large Pulse Laser is just a great choice.
    The MF variant is pretty great! It's a scary brawler.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому +1

      Spot on with the 3 and 7. ERPPC + TC is going to ruin a lot of mechwarriors' days.

  • @kalixascsi66
    @kalixascsi66 6 місяців тому +1

    In the words of Harry Ord, "UNIVERSE!" I love this little guy like you wouldn't believe.

  • @HeavyBlasters
    @HeavyBlasters 6 місяців тому +1

    The Horned Owl is one of the most slept on designs in all of BT.

  • @georgesulea
    @georgesulea 6 місяців тому +7

    I'd probably take the primary version. I really great mech, and I like your short range infantry hunter version too:)

  • @hurnn1543
    @hurnn1543 6 місяців тому +2

    The OG is the best one, I do kind of like the 6th variant, if only because you can put a legally blind pilot in it and he will still hit things, also it does let you cheese the BV calculation a little bit.

  • @KillerOrca
    @KillerOrca 6 місяців тому +1

    "This is no Zaku, boy, no Zaku!"
    -the dude who drew the Horned Owl defending his original "its totally a Battletech'd Zaku" design.

  • @Dang_Near_Fed_Up
    @Dang_Near_Fed_Up 6 місяців тому +1

    I like the look of the rounded mechs like this and I use them whenever possible. The Peregrine is a fine mech in many limited rolls, but does fill some niches better than others.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому +1

      It's quite a fun one. Just dangerous enough that you can't ignore it. Not so dangerous that it dies immediately.

  • @joshuaturnquist5538
    @joshuaturnquist5538 6 місяців тому +2

    It is beauty, it is grace, it fires a stabilized large pulse laser into your face.

  • @rkbinder
    @rkbinder 6 місяців тому +1

    So this is from a fanwork operation Lancaster, there is a mercenary that has a Horned Owl that is a custom varient made from salvaged components:
    280 XL 8/12/8 movement
    13 Double Heat Sinks
    XL Gyro (IS)
    6.5 ton FF armor
    Clan ECM
    2 Improved Heavy Medium Lasers
    6 Clan ER Small Lasers
    Clan Targeting Computer (Only 1 ton)

  • @ResaFMkII
    @ResaFMkII 6 місяців тому +1

    Horned Owl 4 is real trooper I've recently discovered. It's a great versatile choice for cheap BV cost, which is useful when I play with IS players who don't want to bring 15,000 BV to face off against a normal Star!
    The damage output from that HE ammo up close is nasty!

  • @iansaviet600
    @iansaviet600 6 місяців тому +1

    the 6 feels like a clan made replacement for mechs like the Wolfhound

  • @discipleofsound4565
    @discipleofsound4565 6 місяців тому +1

    The Horned Owl is perfect for harrassing enemy formations. It's pretty well strapped for a light mech, and is hard to ignore when it flies around and shoots battleline mechs in the back.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому

      It can absolutely cause some damage if you ignore it too much.

    • @discipleofsound4565
      @discipleofsound4565 6 місяців тому

      @@MechanicalFrog Just gotta make sure it stays in cover and/or covering terrain.

  • @Phoney72
    @Phoney72 5 місяців тому +1

    This is very definitely one of my favourite sculpts in the CGL range of mechs

  • @mitch7235
    @mitch7235 6 місяців тому +1

    Well, I don’t know about else. But I like the fact that it looks like someone took the Master Chief. Turned him into a Mech, and gave him a cool paint job. But maybe that’s just me.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому +1

      Sounds like as good a reason to like it as any.

  • @mathewfitzpatrick5645
    @mathewfitzpatrick5645 6 місяців тому +1

    The Owl 3 with Rapid Fire Machine Guns rule could be TERRIFYING up close.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому

      The dentists who have to replace all those fillings rattled out will approve.

  • @meshuggahshirt
    @meshuggahshirt 6 місяців тому +1

    *excited monoeye noises*
    The Horned Owl is one of the all-time great light Mechs; Clan pulse lasers and jump jets go together like gasoline and matches.

  • @sebastiang.5032
    @sebastiang.5032 6 місяців тому +2

    I've painted one of those Buggers for my Clan Sea Fox Spina Khanate force... it's nasty!

  • @Yacovo
    @Yacovo 6 місяців тому +1

    Clan Second Line Mech is such a weird combination of words. I thought Clan Galaxies were a force composed soley of protagonists, all with their special snowflake mechs. Thanks for the video.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому

      Heh, I guess not. Thanks for giving the video a go.

  • @ShasOFish
    @ShasOFish 6 місяців тому +2

    My group loved the “Horny Owl”. Damn thing is a menace.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому

      Someone should really do something about it...

  • @sharlin648
    @sharlin648 6 місяців тому +1

    The Zaku is a superb 'Mech, sure its not that fast but it can run down more than a few lights and Mediums and it outguns them in most cases, and stuff that can catch them, often finds itself outgunned. Not because the Horned Owl hits hugely hard, but because its just rarely going to miss and its brutally consistent with the pulse lasers and they can kick the bejasus out of any light and punch well above their weight when dealing with heavies. And with that LPL being in the CT, and it having a standard engine, this thing is hard to kill for its size.
    Plus it just looks AMAZING.
    Great vid about a genuinely superb 'Mech.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому

      Thanks a lot! It's one of my personal favorites so I wanted to do it justice.

  • @krissteel4074
    @krissteel4074 6 місяців тому +2

    Heh, it was a 'dark age' around the number 6
    I can see the number 4 being quite a really effective harasser and menace to most light mechs

  • @jefffreese947
    @jefffreese947 6 місяців тому +2

    Always have loved the Horned Owl. One of the Clan 2nd line mechs that perfectly balances cost/capability. Pretty much love all the variants except the 6. One of those exceptional mechs that I honestly can't justify coming up with a variant. Do like the MF version - but if I was a pilot I'd rather go with the base version.

  • @leem.9934
    @leem.9934 6 місяців тому +1

    The MF version stirred deep memories of one of my first ever "good" homebrew variants of any mech, in which I also swapped out the CT LPL for a MPL. The big difference is that I didn't add in SPLs. I didn't add in another DHS. I hadn't even heard of superchargers, let alone seen rules for them back in the 90's.
    I ran 3 MPLs and 8 ER Small Lasers, 4 per side torso. Because precisely FUCK OFF all rear armor and anything else inside of ANY heavy or assault that doesn't run far and fast to open terrain. This version made the 4/6/0 movement profile a bouquet of pregrets (a decision anyone deploying something that slow KNEW they were gonna regret as soon as they saw my Horny Bird).
    Was it heat neutral? Naw. Was it "good"? Naw. Would it absolutely WRECK things? Often enough that (in an era when we hadn't moved past the 3050's lore yet) it was so destructive that I was cordially invited to never play it again by threat of baseball bat to my knees being motivational option should I attempt it.
    Goddamn, it has been a minute and a half since I had remembered the Horny Bird.

  • @freeranger00
    @freeranger00 6 місяців тому +1

    I adore the Peregrine and have long considered it to be better, or perhaps more generally useful, than many of the Clan light Omnimechs. Aside from the Puma, which has a bit of a different role, I can think of more uses for a Peregrine prime or three than most of the other Invasion-era Clan lights. I'm not saying that the other Clan lights are bad, much the opposite, actually, no I just love the Peregrine.
    My preferred role for it is as a light hunter in the vein of the Phoenix Hawk, it can fulfill that bug-hunting role even better than the venerable medium at ten tons lighter, while not being tremendously expensive in terms of C-bills. Those Clan pulse lasers are just excellent weapons for pinning down things like Dashers, Fireballs, or other speed demons. Were I cursed with being a Clanner myself, I'd be happy to have a Peregrine, or Horned Owl, as a mount because it strikes me as a very good duelist mech, too.

  • @RibusPQR
    @RibusPQR 6 місяців тому +1

    This mech sounds really nice. I love the speed and loadout of the OG. I'll have to ask OpFor to run it against us (so we can grab it as isorla).

  • @Executioner9000
    @Executioner9000 6 місяців тому +1

    The base Horned Owl had always been my favorite 2nd line light. It's just good at murdur'n'. I prefer it as a 'recon in force' / anti recon mech.

  • @haileysaint5443
    @haileysaint5443 6 місяців тому +1

    Honestly, I agree that it's hard to improve upon the original Horned Owl configuration. And I'm certain my custom ISM variant is not an improvement. I took the standard config and removed all of the weapons and upgraded to an XL engine. The right arm carries an Ultra AC/5 with 3 tons of ammo, while the left arm carries an oddly designed hatchet. An ER Small Laser is mounted in the head, with 2 more carried in the CT. It's best used in a team of three, and typically against other Light 'Mechs, armor units, and infantry. There are rumors going around of a similar version that trades out the UAC/5 for another weapon, but nothing's been confirmed. Officially, it's called the Horned Owl ISM; unofficially, you can call it the Horned Owl "Zaku".
    Because that's why it has the loadout it does. I have no idea how effective it actually is.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому +1

      I was tempted by the XL but I like the idea that even if you get a lucky shot and blow one of the arms and torsos off this thing, it won't be seriously hobbled.

  • @malusignatius
    @malusignatius 6 місяців тому +3

    The Horned Owl base is just a solid 35-ton trooper. It can hold it's own against other lights and is a threat to many larger 'mechs as well. Either hunting down lights or as a flanker/screening 'mech for it's heavier starmates, the Horned Owl is a powerful and versatile design. In a lot of ways if feels like a Clan analogue for the Wolfhound.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому

      It definitely has a little bit of that Wolfhound vibe to it.

  • @XanderDraft
    @XanderDraft 6 місяців тому +1

    Love the mech, the standard 3 and 4 are all good imo. 6 is a disaster with the only edge case being for when you don’t have fully trained pilots and need mechs on the field.
    The MF pulls a lot of duties, scout, light Hunter, back stabber infantry killer and the large number of weapons make the mech a monster for crit seeking and the all laser load out remove ammo issues and explosions.
    10/10 adding the MF variant to the roster.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому

      I'm glad it has the ZanderDraft seal of approval. :D

  • @thomasrobson6370
    @thomasrobson6370 6 місяців тому +2

    Yay he did the horned owl 👍. I fell in love with this mech the first time I saw it on robotech.

  • @derekburge5294
    @derekburge5294 6 місяців тому +1

    The variants are... Fine for the most part. Gimme that default though!
    Also, it's nice to see all these color variations. Nice work there!

  • @potsperm1666
    @potsperm1666 6 місяців тому +2

    such a beautiful mech! love your version, as always, even more pulsies!!!! ❤

  • @Alizardwithdaftideas
    @Alizardwithdaftideas 3 місяці тому +1

    Never heard of this 'mech before, though I am still very new to the lore. Regardless of that I am now a fan of it.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  3 місяці тому +1

      I'm glad I could introduce it, then. :D

  • @milankostic2571
    @milankostic2571 6 місяців тому +1

    We all love Horned Owl and I love Mechanical Frog, thank you for this video, GOLIATH SCORPIONS RULE!!! ❤❤❤

  • @ero9841
    @ero9841 6 місяців тому +2

    Such beautiful and deadly mech. My ride of choice.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому

      It's lovely.

    • @ero9841
      @ero9841 6 місяців тому +1

      @@MechanicalFrog more I think about it . I'd like to see a return to amphibious load out. Swap jump jets for umu and and add supercharger to make up the difference.

  • @Echo1608.
    @Echo1608. 6 місяців тому +1

    See this is why I love your content, you talk about all these wonderful battlemechs I haven't even heard of or seen. Thank you, I might have found a new favorite design....
    Also, congrats on 10K!

  • @AnimeSunglasses
    @AnimeSunglasses 3 місяці тому +1

    I've always loved the look (and both names) of the Horned Owl, as well as the base loadout... This has only confirmed that.
    Your -MF config looks good, but what I really find myself REALLY wanting after learning the origins of the chassis, is one that swaps to an ER-Large laser to recover weight for an Underwater Maneuver System WITHOUT losing the jump jets!
    Also, I _WILL_ be fielding the -3. My loyalties might be divided between the Draken and the Bear, but my appreciation for fine design is not!

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  3 місяці тому +1

      Tough choices were made... though underwater mechs are always wild to ponder.

  • @AlexDenton0451
    @AlexDenton0451 6 місяців тому +2

    Mines painted red like a certain Red Comet. I have a Turn-A Gundam styled Vapor Eagle too lol!

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому +1

      I think red ones get a +1 MP

    • @AlexDenton0451
      @AlexDenton0451 6 місяців тому

      @@MechanicalFrog it depends on if the fighters want him to win the fight or not

  • @gregdomenico1891
    @gregdomenico1891 6 місяців тому +1

    A mixed Star of Primes and ATM variants would be straight up hell to deal with. As for you hating Infantry, if you ever change your Icon from a Elemental to a Piranha, then I might believe it 😅

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому

      Might be time to go full mechwarrior...

  • @billybully4434
    @billybully4434 6 місяців тому +2

    Hey, Scorpion mech! Neeeeeeet!

  • @blackspade1
    @blackspade1 6 місяців тому +1

    I like the original and 7 myself. I like the partial wing option even though it has a slower ground speed. The original is still the best of the bunch imo.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому

      I'm glad there seems to be a healthy love for all the variants.

  • @andrewrose3748
    @andrewrose3748 6 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for the mech I don't know about and haven't been covered to death!

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому +1

      They all need some love eventually.

  • @sim.frischh9781
    @sim.frischh9781 6 місяців тому +1

    The MF version is a dangerous short range mech, and certainly devastating to not just infantry.
    But i would go with one of two homebrew versions: base version, swapping the medium pulse lasers for medium ER lasers, add a targeting computer and an addition DHS, or,
    get rid of all the pulse lasers and throw in 6 ER mediums, a targeting computer and three more heat sinks.
    I always struggle to see a BattleMech, since ti looks so much like the Dark Army from Mobile Fighter G Gundam, and i REALLY enjoyed that show. Doesn´t take itself too serious.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому +1

      I wouldn't hold it against anyone picking most of the official variants. They each have their charm and the OG is very good.

    • @sim.frischh9781
      @sim.frischh9781 6 місяців тому

      @@MechanicalFrog Definitely, having both a large and two medium pulse lasers gives the mech both good reach and versatility.
      Mechs? Check! Tanks? Check! Infantry? Check! Heck, with the reach of the LPL, it can even do anti air!
      So this Horny Owl bring a LOT to the table right from the start.

  • @Ranalcus
    @Ranalcus 6 місяців тому +3

    It is no Zaku boy, no Zaku!
    Just paint it blue for CQC
    or paint it red to be 3 times the speed

  • @gwin2719
    @gwin2719 6 місяців тому +1

    I looked at the HO and didn’t really know what to do with it.. so I’ve been using my horned owls as test mechs for paint schemes…
    I massively underestimated this mech 😂

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому

      Oh no! Well... at least it was useful before. Double useful now?

    • @gwin2719
      @gwin2719 6 місяців тому

      @@MechanicalFrogTime to fire up the paint stripper lol 😂

  • @swiftdraw
    @swiftdraw 6 місяців тому +1

    I have one, but never used it. I just liked the Zaku-like look as Zaku's are what got me into model building.
    I just think they're neat!

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому +1

      "I just think they're neat." This should be the channel's mission statement.

  • @jasonhenninger8220
    @jasonhenninger8220 6 місяців тому +1

    6/9(12)/6, Endo, Supercharger, 11DHS, 6t Ferro, targeting computer, 4 ER MLasers, Angel ECM (BV2 2011) - infiltration and communication disruption/ guerrilla ops

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому

      That would be fun. Sneaky pain with the 4 ERML+TC

  • @lukedudley5030
    @lukedudley5030 6 місяців тому +1

    I like this mech :-) it's got a nice looking head :-) Cheers for another fun overview

  • @TAVAAR7
    @TAVAAR7 6 місяців тому +1

    6/9/6 with clan pulse maxing at +4 heat?.....sounds like they found the sweet spot to me. Only thing missing is some later tech of a NOVA CEWS (which I still can't get to work on Megamek)
    Congrats on 10k btw 😃

  • @Kepora1
    @Kepora1 6 місяців тому +1

    That's-
    *That's a friggin' Zaku.*
    I kinda like it now.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому

      Success!

    • @Kepora1
      @Kepora1 6 місяців тому

      @@MechanicalFrog Hey, what can I say? The Zaku II is a timeless classic of mecha design.

  • @Bluehairedgirl89
    @Bluehairedgirl89 6 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for the time and effort you put into making this video, I enjoyed it. And once again you find a clan mech that I like. The look is amazing, the weapon loadout is perfect, and even the name appeals. I’ll have to raid the clans for some salvage and start giving these a whirl!

  • @revenvrake7412
    @revenvrake7412 6 місяців тому +1

    You know, I could almost call this a Grasshopper IIC, as it's exactly half the weight of the Grasshopper but has a similar play style...

  • @beskar66
    @beskar66 6 місяців тому +1

    Congrats on 10K mech frog well deserved

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому +1

      Thanks a bunch! You're the goat, Beskar.

    • @beskar66
      @beskar66 6 місяців тому

      @@MechanicalFrog just keep doing what your doing Frog

  • @sebastiang.5032
    @sebastiang.5032 6 місяців тому +1

    Congratulations to the 10K!!!!! 🎉🎉🎉

  • @johnhand2992
    @johnhand2992 6 місяців тому +1

    Congrats on 10k!

  • @piprdakota
    @piprdakota 6 місяців тому

    Congrats on 10K subscribers!!

  • @michaelpfister1283
    @michaelpfister1283 6 місяців тому +1

    "...a time before Clan Sea Fox could conjur up anything you wanted on a whim." I just about spit out my coffee when I heard that! The term when I first started in Battletech was "munchkin". Uber-designs using the (then) new 'clan tech' were not liked. I love this 'mech. For that matter, I really like a lot of the clan 2nd line machines, far more than the omnis. They just feel more ... real. :-) And this one is just fun to use. Thanks for the overview! For myself: I have always loved the standard variant. Its one of the few 'mechs I don't tweak in some way. Your "MF" variant is OK, but I wouldn't trade the LgPls for a supercharger. Sorry. :-) About the only swap-out I'd make would be for the headhunter variant with the ER-PPC in the CT. In fact, the campain where I ran these I had a pair of them, one standard and one 3 variant, along with an Incubus Std and 2, all led by a Vapor Eagle. My pilots were all 3/3 with Vapor Eagle pilot an elite 2/3 (gave up a pile of tonnage to get pilot bonuses and stay under BV). And then spent a lot of time having a whole lot of fun in my heavy and assault opponent's rear arcs. Nothin' says lovin' like an ER-PPC to the rear torso! LOL

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому

      The ER PPC variant is nasty. I love it.

  • @bthsr7113
    @bthsr7113 6 місяців тому +1

    One of the other rounded armor mechs... the Urbie.

  • @kierdalemodels
    @kierdalemodels 6 місяців тому +2

    It’s such a cool looking mech!😍
    In AlphaStrike I’d choose the Mk.1 as it’s simple, well statted and reasonable points-wise. Does what you need and doesn’t have a lot of special rules to remember. Probably a good starter mech🤔 The 6 has a point more armour for only a point more of cost…but as you said, losing the jump ability…no thanks.
    Thanks for another great video, and I look forward to you passing the big milestone!🙏

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому +1

      I may be getting the Alpha Strike box set for X-mas so hopefully I can drop in some AS commentary on stats moving forward.

    • @kierdalemodels
      @kierdalemodels 6 місяців тому

      @@MechanicalFrog Excellent! I’d love to see that added to your videos, even just a little bit.🙏

  • @queengorgo1440
    @queengorgo1440 6 місяців тому +2

    Gotta say, I only really learned about this mech from this video yet I already love it and I hope to add it into my touman someday!
    On a somewhat related note, do you have any plans on covering mechs like the Dire Wolf or Stone Rhino?

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому +1

      I'm sure we will cover both at some point. I'm a big fan of the Stone Rhino.

  • @calumdeighton
    @calumdeighton 6 місяців тому +1

    Interesting mech. Couple the Clan boxsets have these.

  • @greysonjones5429
    @greysonjones5429 6 місяців тому +1

    A little late on this, but, man, that 7 is sexy. Granted, im a sucker for Partial wing, but it still really nice. I was a little Leary on it, but thne you noted it had a Tcomp, meaning in close it'll be more accurate and only lose 1 accuracy point at long wih the Er LL

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому

      It's a fun one. That being what matters most.

    • @greysonjones5429
      @greysonjones5429 6 місяців тому

      @@MechanicalFrog Aff Star Captain. But more importantly it's fantastically stylish with wings. Perfect for my Jade Falcons

  • @covahredro8370
    @covahredro8370 6 місяців тому +1

    Another cool looking mech I knew nothing about

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому +1

      This is why I do it. Right here.

    • @covahredro8370
      @covahredro8370 6 місяців тому

      @@MechanicalFrog And why I subscribe

  • @strcmdrbookwyrm
    @strcmdrbookwyrm 6 місяців тому +1

    First off, I was surprised by it's loadout. The best I was expecting was a pair of Medium Pulse Lasers and a small pulse laser. All around, it seems pretty solid.
    I don't think I really like the MF design, mainly because I like how the standard variants seem to all have some sort of mid to long range option. The Supercharger is nice, but I don't think it adds too much to the design.
    Now brace yourself, I've got a few different designs that I came up with while listening to this video. Be warned, at least half of these are joke variants.
    First up, I choose to follow the time honored tradition of Clanners trying to put small autocannons on small mechs. The Horned Owl J-AC is actually a startlingly easy change. By pulling the Large Pulse Laser, you get the 6 tons needed for a UAC2 with one ton of ammo. For everyone's sanity, I'd move one of the Medium Pulse Laser's to the CT and put the UAC2 in the arm. While a surprisingly clean conversion, I don't think anyone would want to take the J-AC over the 1, unless they have a supply of AC-2 ammo they need to get rid of.
    Second is a variant that is what I call a "Blood Spirit Special." It takes after a pair of my favorite Clan Blood Spirit war machines, the Blood Kite and Morrigu, and mounts two weapon systems: The ER Large Laser and LRM 15. With two tons of ammo, the Horned Owl J-BSS uses the extra half ton of armor to add a little extra protection. It's a silly idea, but I think it could turn out to be a surprisingly nimble fire support unit.
    Third up is a semi-serious one. Like the MF it's geared toward mobility, though in a somewhat different way. Instead of a supercharger, my Horned Owl J0 uses endo-steel and nine improved jump jets. In terms of weapons, the J0 carries a Improved heavy medium laser in each arm, backed up by a Medium Pulse Laser in the head and a ER small laser in the side torso. An extra double heat sink allows the J0 to jump and alpha without becoming to toasty. While the Improved HMLs might seem a bit of a risk, with only 5.5 tons to work with every shot needs to count. I figured they give the best combo of range, damage, and accuracy.
    I had a design that could mount a UAC 10, but it had to jump through a lot of high-tech hoops to make it happen. I think I'm happy with the J0 being my last design, though I do think there are ways I could make it... I was going to say better, but I think "interesting" is a better descriptor.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому

      Swapping a CLPL for a UAC2? You're saying this just to hurt me, aren't you? :D

  • @randyslater199
    @randyslater199 6 місяців тому +1

    Loved this and it has 2 avian names, a must add to my avian name/look mech collection says one of the Citadel Collectors (story idea there.. lol)

  • @Ironclockwork
    @Ironclockwork 6 місяців тому +1

    *Stares at the 6 variant in confusion*
    A light 'Mech losing the ability to leap gracefully into the air appears to greatly offend MechFrog's anuran sensibilities. Nice job on the MF variant, although I recommend never handing it an axe. Copyright contentions have plagued Battletech enough, methinks. :P

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому +1

      How about combat horns?

    • @Ironclockwork
      @Ironclockwork 6 місяців тому

      @@MechanicalFrog At that point we might as well paint it red to give it three times the speed.

  • @ThelemicPotter
    @ThelemicPotter 6 місяців тому +2

    Why are Clan second line 'mechs so fucking good?

  • @105Gunner
    @105Gunner 6 місяців тому +1

    Congrats on making 10k! Question - how do you do your mech color schemes for the videos? Looks like a good way to try things out before putting a brush in paint.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому +1

      We'll have to talk about the process. It's a lot easier than one might think.

  • @dubuyajay9964
    @dubuyajay9964 6 місяців тому +1

    I think I found the starter mech for my Clan Warrior's RPG background as his first mech after his bloodening. The ER Range and jump gives him a chance to live long enough until he can get better Isorla.

  • @TheKerfuffin
    @TheKerfuffin 6 місяців тому +1

    The 6 gets the armor maxed out also.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому

      Yeah I missed that. It does slightly improve things.

  • @canisblack
    @canisblack 6 місяців тому +2

    What’s with the Goliath Scorpion and underwater equipment? Did they at least militarize it themselves or was it some other clan like the Wolves and the Elemental suit?

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому +1

      >Try to create an underwater construction mech
      >Accidentally create one of the best 2nd line clan light mechs
      GG Goliath Scorpions...

  • @theangryMD
    @theangryMD 6 місяців тому +2

    What are the odds, I just watched a horned Owl cover a Kodiak's retreat admirably over at DFA Wargaming's channel.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому +2

      I hope it was thanked for its selfless service.

  • @joshuamidgette4846
    @joshuamidgette4846 6 місяців тому +1

    Its basically a better panther, that said it is inferior to a Firestarter.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому

      Hmm... going to have to ponder that.

  • @krashkow
    @krashkow 6 місяців тому +1

    Like you, I prefer the mk 1 variant. It’s simple, versatile, and effective. It’s almost an ideal mech for new players.

  • @lordilluminati5836
    @lordilluminati5836 Місяць тому

    The 7 looks fun

  • @harvestblades
    @harvestblades Місяць тому

    I just watched the Battleytics on this bugger & the Horned Owl 6 with the large pulse, 2med pulse, oh & a targeting computer in a mech that can run & alpha strike every turn is rather obnoxious.
    I will definitely be fielding one....or three of these the next time I run some Clanner mechs.

  • @ThugShakers4Christ
    @ThugShakers4Christ 6 місяців тому +1

    Got to go with the fire support model every time

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому

      See, there's always one... I can respect that.

    • @ThugShakers4Christ
      @ThugShakers4Christ 6 місяців тому

      @@MechanicalFrog honestly though, I'm intrigued by the idea of an SRM centric build. Could be a rapid fire, shotgun blast up close

  • @wartmcbeighn
    @wartmcbeighn 6 місяців тому +1

    Hey MF...played a game a few weeks ago.. opponent had omnimechs and was very confident going in.....only to be crestfallen when...not knowing my mech choices....was confronted by a pair of peregrines.....a goshawk and a Viper....lol...oh the tears he shed that day

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому

      So glad to hear that! Go 2nd Liners!

  • @fenny1578
    @fenny1578 6 місяців тому +1

    Odd, i never expected to see a scopedog video.

  • @chrissegee
    @chrissegee 6 місяців тому +1

    I have to admit, I’ve never heard of this one but it is quite impressive and may be one of the few mechs where the original config is the best ( although the MF version is pretty good if you are worried about Battle Armor)

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому

      The OG config is definitely hard to top.

  • @lopezmarlon
    @lopezmarlon 6 місяців тому +1

    Red the dedication to share a passion of yours, and entertain your followers is commendable. I really enjoy your channel. Maybe it's a regional dialect and I'm wrong? When you mispronounce a word - it throws off the immersion _at least for me_ @1:32 🍐•uh•😸(grin).
    I feel self-conscious 'cuz now 🤓 this is two videos in a row. I just want success for you and your channel to be at the best 💯. *Congrats on 10k*

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому +1

      Well, I don't know what to tell ya. I'm an old fart who read a lot of books growing up and had very little in the way of audio modeling for language and pronunciation. Untraining 40+ years of saying things a certain way is tough.

    • @lopezmarlon
      @lopezmarlon 6 місяців тому

      The quality of your short stories are top-notch. I wouldn't say you're untrained. There hasn't been an MF variant I didn't like. Always well thought out 'Mechs. Between you and Nerdy Overanalyzed you materialize some really great variants. 👍🏼

  • @mal2ksc77
    @mal2ksc77 6 місяців тому

    So in the video you have a picture of your Horned Owl in green up in the corner. What paints did you use for that? Looking for a green to do a small CJF force.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому

      That is the bright green contrast paint from Citadel over a white basecoat. I don't recall the name off hand.

  • @135forte
    @135forte 6 місяців тому +1

    It was also apparently mistaken for a security mech at first. Imagine the surprise when the friend shaped 'security mech' tanks hits better than a lot of light Battlemechs and punches harder and father than the average medium.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому +1

      Surprise LPL to the face...

    • @bthsr7113
      @bthsr7113 6 місяців тому +1

      Reminds me of how even the bystander bloated "peaceful exploration vessels" of Starfleet were still incredibly well armed.

  • @michaelkimberling7307
    @michaelkimberling7307 6 місяців тому +2

    So if it was originally intended as an underwater construction mech, and it likes to jump. Does that make it a flying fish?
    Edit : happy 10k subs

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому

      Thank you. It at least suggests some sort of amphibian tendencies.

    • @jellico1238
      @jellico1238 6 місяців тому

      Rec guides #11 notes the 6 is nicknamed a kākāpō. A flightless nocturnal parrot.
      The 7 is nicknamed shima fukuro. A large Japanese fish owl. Remember the 7 flies more than normal ;)

  • @Brigand231
    @Brigand231 6 місяців тому +1

    The Peregrine is amazing in its weight class. It has the speed of a Jenner with the firepower of a Panther at the same weight.
    Edit: Not sure if I can make the stream so here's my question... Why do you love BattleTech? Not negging on it, but to flesh out the question, what does it offer to you that other games don't have to offer?

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому +1

      Good question. I'll add it to the list. Short answer: Rich universe, deep lore, tactical gameplay that is much more skill-based than some other games where a single dice roll early on in the game will make or break you.

  • @Viper0701
    @Viper0701 6 місяців тому +1

    I would certainly say I enjoy the MF version. I like knife fighting with lights. Great video! Thank you!

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому

      I think it would be fun. Thanks for coming by!

  • @ChaosTicket
    @ChaosTicket 6 місяців тому +2

    Well its probably already been in the video, but it looks like a Zaku II from Mobile Suit Gundam. I type these before the video ends.
    In universe its a very solid light mech. It can be considered a Wasp IIC with improved weaponry, armor, and no less fast or mobile unit. Its a surprisingly conservative upgrade, which puts it well above a comparable Inner Sphere light mech, and in some cases mediums.
    Its variants also tend to be solid. If I could add one thing it would be a "Griffin" configuration with an ER-large laser and long range missiles together.
    The Partial Wing system is odd, but its still a far better option than using "Improved" Jump Jets. Too bad its kind of wasted on the Horned Owl because they lowered the engine power. 5/8/7 is not better than 6/9/6.

    • @dubuyajay9964
      @dubuyajay9964 6 місяців тому

      I agree. Clan ER L Las or ER PPC.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому

      An ERLL with a Targeting Computer would be neat.

    • @ChaosTicket
      @ChaosTicket 6 місяців тому

      @@MechanicalFrog There was a wave of mechs from the same era with similar builds.
      Incubus, Horned Owl, Conjurer, Goshawk. Fast, jump jets, 1 big gun and secondary weapons. All "Super Wasps".
      Then in the same book their were the IIC mechs. It was the "Anime Era". It was also probably when Harmony Gold started suing for their Robotech property.

  • @hardluck4031
    @hardluck4031 6 місяців тому +1

    Could you make a short video on how to make, save and use a Mech for MegaMek. Due to limited at home time I haven't figured it out yet...😔

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому

      You know what? This is going to happen. Very soon.

  • @jamesbeard5513
    @jamesbeard5513 6 місяців тому

    Mech Frog, your math is off on the 7. It only has 5 jump jets with the partial wing giving 2 more movement free, so with 5 heat from the JJs and 20 from the weapons and a -23 heat from all cooling sources, it generates only +2 heat with an alpha strike.
    As for the 6, it also has 1 ton more of armor, but yeah, I'd rather have the jets.
    The only way I could think on improving on the original is to give it a Clan XL or go mixed tech with a Light fusion to give it more tonnage to play with, but that feels like a betrayal of what the mech is supposed to be. I'll stick with the original if I had to choose between all, and maybe the 3 if I had to fight in an urban environment.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому +1

      I went to public school. What do you expect? Edit: Thank you for keeping me honest.

  • @TheStraycat74
    @TheStraycat74 6 місяців тому +1

    10:32 drop the heavy medium and add another DHS, just saying.
    15:15 shoulda got an XL engine... but as a Merc, money isn't an option :3

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 місяців тому +1

      The XL is tempting but I think it pulls too much from the survivability of the mech. You can blow an entire side off and it still has the CLPL and a CMPL to hit you with.

    • @TheStraycat74
      @TheStraycat74 6 місяців тому

      @MechanicalFrog with an XL you can put more armor and DHS... just sayin