Barbenheimer - Spoiler Review (Barbie & Oppenheimer)
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- With Barbie and Oppenheimer dominating the box office, let's take some time to talk spoilers and answer a few burning questions!
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0:00 - Intro
1:56 - Barbie
11:09 - Oppenheimer - Розваги
The confusion people are having in my opinion is because the movie isn't about the atomic bomb, it's about Oppenheimer. Just because the two are inextricably linked in the minds of future generations doesn't mean that Oppenheimer's life was only about the bomb.
The movie is called Oppenheimer. How much more of a clue do people need?
If the movie was going to be about Oppenheimer's life, maybe they should have just called it Oppenh- oh wait.
the only reason anyone cares about the guy is the atomic bomb.
i get your point but anything that had to do with the bomb was very underwhelming. it's a good movie still.
You can judge a movie by what you wanted or you can judge a movie by what it is
I was really expecting the movie to end with the test detonation, but I checked the time and there was still 45 minutes left
I don’t think we needed to see Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I feel like that would’ve been a bit exploitative. I actually liked when they were showing the aftermath of those detonations and it was solely looking at people’s reactions including Oppenheimer’s.
Yes it was more about Oppenheimer and what went on with him Personally from his perspective and politically from Lewis Stross perspective
I disagree. I think any moment we get to remind ourselves that we wiped entire bloodlines of families that had done nothing to us, the better. There should have been an attempt to humanise our victims rather than leave them as abstract non-entities. This movie reminds me of the soldier-guilt genre. The ones that typically featured returning Vietnam vets with PTSD but no word on whether their victims struggle with the same psychological injury,
It was more about Oppenheimer but RDJ upstaged him.
So was it Oppenheimer movie or more like 'Strauss'?
@@ReluctantSpirit I don't think he did Cillian was as good as RDJ if not better this time but Nolan intended to show the movie from both Oppenheimer and Straus perspective
I think it was interesting that his use to show anything related to Japan was out of the use of imagery of someone being burnt to a crisp. I think that showing a scene of the nukes in both places would've also required CGI and I am not sure that's what Nolan was going for. I think one of the best lines in the movie is said by the Benny Safdie's character at the end, "Would the Japanese surrender if they knew what was coming?". Such a great line that shows the horrors of what was going to happen.
I really liked in Oppenheimer how Nolan focused more on everyone’s reactions to the bomb rather than a Michael Bay type explosion
It’s Oppenheimer - not big explosionheimer
@@kalmenbarkin5708well Nolan doesn't use cgi
@@dariuschisholm7317 I would have really appreciated a 12km high mushroom cloud. Most disappointing movie since Flash or Amsterdam. just stock footage that we all have seen before would have been cool to see in a Bomb movie. The dude made the bomb. The trailers showed a bomb. I was NEVER asking for dropping a bomb on people. But seeing some cool nuclear tests, would have been so cool. Christopher Nolan did a fine job. This just happens to be the worst Movie in his catalogue. Should have made a documentary like Werner Herzog Documentary. I never want to watch Oppenheimer again. I felt trapped in the theater for the Final hour.
@@SeekingGodsWill huh
@@dariuschisholm7317 Yes. Nolans worst movie. And it's not close. I was not Entertained for too much of this film. Dane Dehann and RDJ were not my cup of tea. Also Josh Peck bad acting. Josh Hartnett and Cillian and brief Albert Einstein cameos cool. Glad you enjoyed.
I was clapping when the ‘Depression Barbie’ Ad randomly appeared.
Me too, it gave me a lot of laughs, and made me appreciate 90's Pride and Prejudice even more!
@@trinaq1995 Pride and Prejudice made me crack up 😂
@@PokhrajRoy. Yep, Colin Firth in his prime! 😍
@PokhrajRoy Great to see you Here fellow TISS and Cysur Says fan. 😂
@@Nisarga7 Hello! Nice to meet you!
On the somewhat dissonant ending of Barbie: I think yours was the *intended* audience reaction. Barbieland is not a utopia, but a mirror image of the real world. The Barbies cannot solve real-world issues like gender inequality. Only humans can - as the main Barbie says in the end, she wants to become human to be part of the creators, not the created (or imagined). At least those were my thoughts.
Barbie was so heavy handed I think we all got the point
@@bonjovi7399 lol wut?! Heavy handed?!? If you have a problem with women pointing out facts then that's just a reflection on what you think of women
@@bonjovi7399imo the heavy-handedness was done so in a tongue-in-cheek way and it worked for me
my problem with barbie was not the message, but the fact that it was so poorly built. The plot had holes, the characters were underdeveloped, and the allegories were not consistent.
I think what Barbie is going for at the end is that true equality takes time, and also is impossible. Barbie, Margot Robbie, is the only one who’s truly learned to accept the Kens as equal. The other Barbies, representing the men of our world, realize that something has to change, but they’re too slow to progress to allow the Kens equal representation. It’s still ultimately a representation of the real world, just with the genders swapped. Our main Barbie is the only one who truly sees how flawed the system actually is, which is why she abandons Barbieland for humanity. She chooses to exist outside the Barbie/Ken dichotomy. I was also hesitant on this part when I first watch it, but I think the film ultimately has a lot of interesting things to say about gender roles and how society consolidates power between them.
18:55 I also felt that it was like he was feeling guilty that he cheated on his wife by him having sex with his mistress right there in the room. It was a perfect idea to symbolize how both of them felt because it shows how embarrassing it felt for both of them
On top of that, I also thought it was a great visual juxtaposition similar to rocket man when Elton John's past self came into the therapy session
I can’t believe Ken would do something like that to Barbie
Was so cheesy. I laughed. In the hands of a better director, it could have worked. Tim Roth's scene in reservoir dogs for instance.
@@robertdouble559 are u implying that christopher Nolan sucks?
Nolan is absolutely brilliant. However, that “sex scene” was far from subtle. To me, it takes away from the amazing acting/reacting in the trial hearing.
I am perfectly fine with nudity, especially Florence Pugh. 😊 It just took me out of the immersion at that point in the film.
I liked how Barbie used both male and female characters to speak to both men and women in the audience. For instance, Stereotypical Barbie could be viewed as a woman who does not yet have the courage to step out into the world and stand up for herself, but she is also an analogy for the men in the real world who just want things to stay the same. Ken could be viewed as the embodiment of unhindered toxic masculinity, but he is also a warning to women of the dangers of overcompensation in the face of social inequality.
Good point there
Dan shares his thoughts in such a clear, non-hyperbolic, non-condescending way. It's really refreshing.
I liked Barbie. I didn't love it. Agreed with the message but too on the nose for me. However, what I absolutely LOVED about Barbie is how self-aware the cast and acting is. I loved how the male cast weren't afraid to look silly during the "fight" and dance sequences. Don't get me started with John Cena lol...They look like they had a great time and that seeps through the movie screen. You could tell that after the scene wrapped, they were just laughing and having fun.
I agree with this tbh, but Greta Gerwig also had mattel breathing down her neck about it, I get the feeling that if she were allowed to do it on her own, it would've been better... but then again both Greta Gerwig and her partner's movies are famous for these tiny long monologues that their characters give in movies... but then maybe it was on the nose because it was meant for children?
way too on the nose and it just kept going at the end
You said it! I was so into it until they literally said "patriarchy." I had to explain this to my little one. I know there's a way to have had an even more fun movie, with a message, dancing and disco, without introducing the word "gynecology" into the mix.
@@ShaneyBright maybe those are important things that kids should know tho?
@@ShaneyBrightthe PG in PG-13 stands for Parental Guidance. What did you expect, lmao
I adored Oppenheimer when I saw it last night. To me, the movie was truly supposed to be on Oppenheimer and I even thought that they did include the horrors of what happened in Japan just through Oppenheimer’s eyes - 100% agree with that perspective. Overall, just extremely interesting themes, and in my opinion, some of the best cinematic storytelling I’ve seen in some time.
It pushed the boundaries with how Biopics are made
Agree it the pushed the boundaries so much that it wasn't either a biopic or good movie.
More like a overbearing assault on eardrums and unwanted/nonsensical closeups to the characters faces
I feel just giving someone papery looking skin does not capture even a fraction of the actual horror. Peoples entire faces and limbs sloughed off. Generations of people suffered, both there and in the US, among those who worked in and around the project up until the 1990s, and the movie acts as if there was discussion at the time that the bomb would end the war and save American soldiers. Historically, that is not true. The idea the bomb “saved” US soldiers was come up with after the fact, to justify the use of the bomb. That’s just known history. For the film to gloss over this stuff yet act like it’s being very honest and groundbreaking because it has a lot of accurate specific details just feels callous to me. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills, though, as few other people seem to even bring this up. I hope when folks read the book they will gain more insight.
@@lawrencescales9864 basically it's a very complex situation and we should consider filmmaking aspects of the movie rather than the creative choices
@@lawrencescales9864but we know it’s already horrible. Why does a movie have to portray that?
I was in the cinema for ten hours. I watched Oppenheimer, Barbie and Oppenheimer again.
Oppenheimer's imagination - how he sees the atomic orbitals above his bed, the sparks of the neutron chain reaction, and later the terror of his weapon - are the genius innovation of that movie. His mind is extraordinary. Barbie teaches us that just because we don't have such a mind doesn't mean that we don't deserve to live. This weekend was a therapy session
Not a partially subtle or original idea. It's almost as cheesy as that Netflix chess show.
Was happy I did the Barbenheimer experience. It was a great time to be a movie fan!
And to your point, ALL of the universally loved movies of the summer: Guardians 3, Mission Impossible, Across the Spiderverse, and now Barbie & Oppenheimer were ALL movies by filmmakers who get the spectacle/idea of the movie going experience.
I think James Manigold knows too since he’s made great movies like 3:10 to Yuma, Logan and Ford v. Ferrari but the script just could have been better for Indy 5 or maybe there were too many hands interfering with making of it that kept it from capturing widespread attention from the audience.
@@greggpirazzini2536 that and I don't remember anyone asking for an Indy 5. Like you said, there were other forces interfering with Mangold's process. I'm big into movies & even I skipped Indy 5... not intentionally, it just... happened.
Haven’t seen Barbie yet, but was able to see Oppenheimer twice. It is my favorite movie in a long time, possibly ever. I felt that RDJ really stole the show because even though I knew the history of Oppie and Straus, RDJ had me second guessing my own historic knowledge. I’m also looking forward to watching Barbie tomorrow
Are you Indian if yes where in India
Why do you want to watch Barbie tho?
@@aaron827 why not lol
Me too, I watched Oppenheimer twice, one on digital IMAX, one on 70mm IMAX.
You need to see more movies.
In regards to not seeing Hiroshima and Nagasaki, i think the way that Nolan chose to portray those is a way of setting up with that main conflict of the third act is: Oppenheimer trying to maintain control over this thing he just created.
They have their celebrations the morning/day after the test, but you can already see how he’s starting to feel regarding what it is they just unleashed on the world. And then it cuts to them already boxing up Little Boy and Fat Man to be shipped off to Japan. He asks to be kept in the loop regarding what the plans were for them and is told “yeah sure, will do” and then doesn’t hear anything until after the first bomb is dropped when Truman announced it to the entire country. The way all of that is portrayed shows just how helpless he is now. He created this monstrous thing and had control of it immediately ripped away from him, and it’s now being used without his knowledge, by unseen powers, in far away countries. That immediately sets up his conflict for the final portion of the movie which is him trying to stay in a position where he has some semblance of control over this technology, while the mere act of doing so makes him be railroaded and blacklisted by the government, so that they can do with it what they want. I feel like it was masterfully done.
7:02 I believe the reason president Barbie said to the kens they can start at the lower courts is because that’s what women HAD to do! The first woman to serve as a supreme court justice was back in 1981! That’s 192 years after the Supreme Court was established. Think about that. I think Greta was making a point! Very smart writing! There’s so many layers to this movie.
Agree with this 👌
I understand that - it goes back to my point though that if the movie’s basis is that women were treated poorly by the real world/patriarchy, then why is it okay to treat the Kens the exact same way? I get that it’s mirroring the real world, but the movie is predicated on the fact that the way of doing things in the real world is wrong. So it makes more sense to me that the Barbies would invent a better way of doing things and not mirror a flawed system.
@@DanMurrellMovies I think it's hitting at how as imperfect humans are so are our ideas, no matter how well meaning. All the Barbies and the Kens for that matter are an idea. I think it's showing how our flaws seep through into our efforts to create equitable societies. But I also think it mostly works on the rule of funny. I thought the movie was great. Also there's a lot of queer coding in this movie and I was kinda surprised no critics have really brought this up lol
@@DanMurrellMovies reversal of fate is a major trope of satire, I thought it was clear the message wasn’t “Let’s set men back 60 years” because that doesn’t even make sense. In fact, Barbie herself would rather leave her fantasy utopia and enter the sexist and unforgiving real world because she values being *human* and not just a woman
The issue is that none of the barbies actually EARNED their qualifications, they were poofed into existence and also if Ken's aren't qualified for the Supreme Court what makes the qualified for a lower court. It just showcases that a lot of feminist sentiments aren't, "let's build a better future together" and are more " mean bad and women have struggled so how about if the shoe was on the other foot
The joke about Margot Robbie being a bad casting for thr message of the Barbie movie was so good because it came at a really depressive moment and I was with her in that depression journey but then the joke came and made me laugh too much while Margot was acting her best. I wanted to connect with her and hear her dialogue but couldn't stop laughing. That was peak cinema for me.
I think it's really interesting that the girl getting her face melted off in the speech scene of Oppenheimer is actually played by Nolan's daughter. There's a huge personal weight that I think Nolan forced himself to have throughout the production of Oppenheimer that really payed off at the end of the day.
I'm so glad that most theatres in Bangalore in India show subtitles for English movies. Makes it so much easier to watch them.
We had to ask for it here in Raipur
It’s great to see both Barbie and Oppenheimer fans come out to support each other’s movie, both on social media and at the box office. Making both movies as a double feature was just marketing genius. It not only created the perfect date night event for couples everywhere, but it also united the fandom together to support both movies, despite the movie studios having both movies compete against each other on their opening weekend. There’s a lot of power with the message of unity, and I hope that more movies do the same double feature release strategy in the future, instead of constantly feeling the need to compete against each other.
I definitely agree cuz their both great movies to me and them marketing together helped them succeed in the box office numbers so much more too
I know, right?! I also love the fact that both Barbie and Oppenheimer fans have continued to support each other’s movies and celebrated together on both movie’s box office success. They didn’t allow the studios to divide the fandom after they decided to release both movies on the same day. It was glorious to witness #barbenheimer stayed trending on social media and the strength of two fandoms uniting together to support 2 completely different movies.
I never liked comparing both movies, i absolutely love both movies and i can't wait to see it again on digital. One wins in the fantasy comedy genre and the other one wins in the biopic genre, therefore cinema is winning. I legit thought Barbenheimer would just be a throwaway joke but instead i'm happy that people are taking the trend seriously
Definitely enjoyed both movies. For me Oppenheimer is one I feel will be remembered for decades because the cast, the craft and more. That Town Hall scene is the best scene in a movie I have seen since maybe Parasite?
Barbie was enjoyable but also lost itself in the 2nd half. Really wish we saw more commentary that neither way was a good way to live but ended up short of that. Self aware parts were solid just wish the movie had been stiched up better
Personally I found the Trinity Test to be Perrfectly matched to the story, and omitting the use of the bombs was not only tasteful, but forces us deeper into the psyche of Oppenheimer. 10/10
Love this. Re: the Trinity Test scene, I thought it was excellent. I knew the outcome of the test, as many of us do, but I found myself holding my breath the entire time the audio was dropped out.
Seeing Oppenheimer’s eyes waiting for the cloud to burn out and not continue into the atmosphere… excellently done.
And of course the rush of sound with the shockwave capped it off wonderfully.
In other words, it allowed me to both suspend disbelief and forget much of my factual knowledge to be consumed by the story for the full runtime.
That, to me, is the mark of an excellent film.
I think that people coming to see BARBIE is as IMPORTANT as seeing Oppenheimer because it helps not only the cinema-going experience, but helping films be original and lets the studios know we dont JUST want a blockbuster, but a thought-provoking film with something to think about after watching it.
I recommend watching Oppenheimer with a caption box or subtitles. There is dialogue I missed on first watch that was critical for the story.
What I like about Oppenheimer is it actually makes me want to look more into what happened. I don’t think everything needed to be shown, now I can look up those parts myself without it feeling like it was exploited for entertainment.
I thought the Oppenheimer explosion was absolutely incredible!!! I loved the silence and sound!!! So sick!!!
I am so excited for Charts With Dan this week!
The Ken coup reminded me of a Robot Chicken sketch where a bunch of Kens formed a fight club.😂
I just did a Barbieheimer double feature today, with Oppenheimer first and Barbie in the afternoon. I thoroughly enjoyed both and didn't get like...emotional whiplash lol I needed to laugh after Oppenheimer and Barbie's jokes are just so on point, it was the perfect kind of balance.
I do wonder though, the part you said in Barbie at the end, about it status quo, I wonder if it is to reflect that it is not that easy to change things, even in a fantasy world. Or maybe, I am reading too much into it. But I am definitely not upset or anything at your take Dan, you are always fair.
What an amazing weekend!
For Oppenheimer, it's been a long time since I've been to a movie theater where NO ONE reached for their phones! Historical bio-pics can be cool. Loved seeing teenaged aged kids not being monsters and being completely captivated by the film.
As for Barbie, being in that theater reminded me what I love about going to the movies: sharing good laughs with an audience. The audience erupted in laughter at the "Margot Robbie is the wrong person to cast if you want to portray inadequacy" joke.
What a great weekend!
I feel like all are blinded by Nolan cool-aid and are unable to subjectively see that the move is mediocre at best
@ReluctantSpirit I do feel Oppenheimer is a great movie.
I actually feel Murphy's performance wasn't that great.
It was good, but RDJ's performance is what stood out to me.
And the time jumps were hard to follow at times.
@ReluctantSpirit and Oppenheimer isn't my favorite movie of the year so far, it's Air, another movie with Matt Damon in it.
@@ReluctantSpirit Why don't you back you claims?
Oppenheimer is an R rated movie, kids should not have been in it. Its also probably boring for kids since its a lot of talking like Intersteller.
I feel like casting big names for small roles with big actors was a way to show that even if they were smaller role in the movie , they were big names in there respective fields. It kind of comes like showing respect to their legacy.
I watched Barbie with my 27-year-old GF, and she told me that she zoned out during America Ferrera's speech, since it went on for so long.
Which relieved me since I did as well. So you have my sympathies Dan.
Although I was hoping Oppenheimer would have covered more of the state of people's mind (military, scientists, and families) while staying in Los Alamos and the Trinity site, I did appreciate the movie for what it was, and can't stop thinking about it.
Just ordered my 6pm ticket for Oppenheimer, the buzz around this movie is crazy. The fact that its a Sunday evening and the theatre is sold out speaks volumes.
I think the message in Barbie is “kens will have as much power as women do in the real world” meaning that the more power women get the more power Kens will have, not meaning Kens don’t have power, but it is conditional to humans advancing and it is a great concept honestly.
Preach!!
Kind of an eye for an eye mentality. Still not great...
@@FoxCastleChild well, i think we need a little bit of push to get to a balance. Men will be just fine :)
We have 4/9 female support justices, when are you gonna stop pretending that women can't hold positions of power
@@piro28most women below 40 out earn their male counterparts, stop pretending women are oppressed in modern 1st world countries
Supposedly 18 million people in the US bought a ticket for both on the same day on opening weekend. Thrilled to have been part of this experience
Any implication in 2023 that women in America on planet earth are powerless, is completely ridiculous.
I'm guessing you didn't see it
The whole point of that of that line is if you’re outraged about their lack of power and agency in a movie, you’re admitting that you know the real world is unjust. Its asking you to ask yourself if you actually care about that injustice or just your own ego.
Both were stellar. I had more issues with Oppenheimer than Barbie, but Oppenheimer has dominated my thoughts since leaving the theater.
I regret seeing it in theatres. It’s too long and dense for that experience even though some of the visuals probably won’t pop on the small screen. I’d rather have watched it like I watch Ken Burnes documentaries - at home with a beer and a skip button.
Barbie is two hours of male bashing jokes.
@@nitishlele6420aw so sad.
Human history is women being subjugated, raped, and murdered. But a campy barbie movie takes things too far.
Hell Barbie literally apologizes to Ken towards the end because she hates men 🙄
@@jakestroll6518 TempleOS
@@nitishlele6420 Everyone is so sensitive these days. You could never make Blazing Saddles in 2023
Hit the nail on the head on this one for my feelings on both films. Working on my review right now and your making my work feel redundant!
love your joy and adoration for movies! It's infectious!
Your thoughts on the thematic dissonance in Barbie were exactly how I felt but could never be articulate enough to explain.
I completely agree with you about Barbie. I walked out of the theater feeling precisely the same way. I totally agree with the message I just have some issue with the delivery. I also thought it didn’t quite do justice to the matrix and Harry Potter Easter eggs but more of a minor complaint.
What HP easter egg? Must have missed that
@@serchtopo where Ruth and Barbie walk into the pink clouds and she gives Barbie the rundown of going to the real world. To me seemed like a direct Easter egg to the Dumbledore Harry Potter scene from the end of movie 8 during the battle of Hogwarts at the white kings cross station.
Thanks for the review Dan
You’re the man, brilliant breakdown of how & why we can all feel differently about movies
I'm of the same opinion as you with Barbie. It was good, not great. My issue with the America Ferrera speech is that that exact same speech has been said many times in movies and TV in almost exactly the same way. Maybe there isn't a better way to say it, but I suspect there is.
Agreed. From a movie like this one, I would precisely expect it to be told differently. The speech just didn't feel fresh or poignant to me.
Some things are more powerful when they are shown instead of being told (in a reaaally long speech), that moment disappointed me a bit because the movie is funny, sophisticated and smart but came off as, unfortunately, not having faith in its audience's perceptiveness
@@antons5302 Yeah. I agree completely. It sort of undermined the whole point of having this fantastical world with fictional characters for a real world character to come right out and say things explicitly. Still, I enjoyed the film and had a good time so I can't really complain other than to say it could have been more than a fun time at the movies.
Killing it with the takes, per usual
I don't know if there was a lot of actual Barbenheimer this weekend here in NYC, but I can say for sure the were MANY girls and women all dressed up in pink and white, getting their Barbie on in the multiplex! It was a lot of fun to witness! Us Oppenheimer folks didn't exactly have a costume, but the screening I went to was packed and people dug it. A great weekend for movies!
Thank you Dan as always for the nuanced takes!
Saw both on Saturday, was such a fun experience-I’m so glad it went from silly meme to actual double-feature event weekend! Oppenheimer was definitely better for me overall, but I had SO much fun with Barbie as the dessert to my day.
I don’t think Dan realises how much of an impact had on girls growing up not just the dolls but the early 2000s barbie movies women in there 30s and 20s have been waiting for this movie for so long and it means so much to us tho I agree with some of the points you made I guess it just impacts women more with the message but keep up the good work loving the reviews and can appreciate it 🤍
I'm sure you're right that it meant a lot to many, and I'm happy for them, but I'm a woman - albeit in my 40s but I played with Barbies - and I didn't like the movie. I found the script and world-building underdeveloped and that it didn't give an accurate picture of the real world, especially the way males think. Will Ferrell and the other board members were terribly written. Barbie's dialogue with her inventor was cliched mumbo jumbo. Etc etc. Just my personal opinion, but you don't have to be a man to dislike it.
Hey Dan, the speech that America gave in the movie I felt was incredibly moving, I actually cried. It really resonated with me as 43 old woman of colour! I feel like this movie was a conversation between women, it was for us and about us. I was talking to a colleague at work about going to see the movie & a complete stranger came up to me and said she seen it, that it was amazing and i must wear pink when I go see the movie lol. I loved the movie a great deal. I don't think it was the best movie of all time, just a lovely fun movie, that was well written and had something to say.
I feel like that line at the end of Barbie was perfectly in keeping with the film’s general commentary. You know how in a lot of films the lesson is learnt at the end and the world is somehow fixed or at least better? Oh, and the girl ends up with the guy. That’s not realistic. Just like Barbie the doll didn’t fix feminism in real life, neither does the resolution of the film permanently fix the Ken struggles. It is a realistic end. Look at BLM. Is racism now fixed? No. Women have the vote, but in the states, for example, some women don’t have rights over their own bodies (abortion).
I did Barbenheimer. I expected to like Oppenheimer more. It was the film I was most excited for. I thought Barbie would be a fun palate cleanser at the end of the day. While I found Oppenheimer artistic visually and excellent in terms of sound, I didn’t have any strong emotions at the end. Interstellar is one of my favourite films. I expected to love Oppenheimer and the more I think about it, the less impressed I am. Visually, it was beautiful, but even then not as spectacular as Interstellar, so I had higher expectations.
Barbie, on the other hand, was a surprise. Ferrera’s speech hit me hard. Many scenes in this film hit me hard. The way certain moments were shot, made them impactful beyond words. I never expected to have such a reaction from a Barbie film. I cried my eyes out at the end and it was indeed cathartic. And I also laughed out loud. I was deeply moved by it and I feel a bit bitter than the same can’t be said of Oppenheimer. I envy the people who described it as a horror.
I was unexpectedly tearing up at multiple points during Barbie. There are so many scenes that linger in my mind after seeing the movie...ugh it was great
I freaking LOVED the portrayal of the Trinity Test!!! As the screen went silent, the artistic part of my brain was like "oh. Nolan muted the scene to portray the magnitude of the moment" Immediately the science part of my brain was like "Light travels faster than sound you dummy." Then the shockwave brought to mind when the Mythbusters blew up that cemment truck and the humongous shockwave, so I could almost feel it!
As far as Barbie, I tried to go in without any expectations. I totally cried! But yeah, I also left thinking "but what about the Kens and Alan?"
Regarding your description of America's monologue, you embodied perfectly the sentiment of "not everything is for everyone, and that's ok." You didn't belittle it, but understood that it wasn't for you.
Anyway, I'm as excited to keep watching your Charts episodes as these two movies stretch their legs!
I am so excited for Charts this week, I see some headlines here and there about history being made, but I want to hear the full story from Dan!
Great speech at the end
Great video!
Barbie could have been way worse, but it also could've been way better. The literal ranting midway through the movie took away from the film's effectiveness as a satire. That said, i 100% felt seen by that rant, from my subjective perspective!
I feel like they could've done more with the character development of the Ken dolls. Like they kind of hand-waved the Kens away, and it felt disingenuous to me
YOUR content is Art, Dan 😎
I saw the barbie and old lady moment as a revelation kind of thing where she thought about growing old herself and seeing it as a beautiful thing
Great weekend for cinemas and the future of theaters!
About Barbie, I wished they stayed longer in the real world. I was on board until they came back to Barbieland or the mess that was Ken-dom. I did enjoy the Ken story line, maybe a little too much (Ken/Ryan Gosling stole the other half of the movie!) but I wished the movie stayed focus on the mom-daughter storyline and we had more Barbie-real women interactions in the real world. Just my opinion.
I hope this inspires studios to get away from always making sequels and super hero films 👍👍
Sadly it won't cause its easy money
@ryanlee122787 not any more. The steam has run out on the comic book train.
@ryanlee122787 not any more. The steam has run out on the comic book train.
I don't think critics should be judging movies based on their life experiences. Judge it based on the story, filmmaking, acting, etc.
I do all of these things - but criticism is also subjective. I feel the way I feel and can’t pretend that I do otherwise. That’s my point: everyone is affected differently by different things.
It's nice to wake up to your posts sitting back with a coffee.
“Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.”- Thanos
"People are gonna be talking about these movies for a very long time" - I guess in modern terms that means one week
We were in a packed theater for Oppenheimer. There was a kid about ten years old sitting next to me that came to watch the movie with his dad. That was awkward.
How? Isn't Oppenheimer R16?
@@narcissticgoddess It's R but the theater allows children with adult supervision. I don't know, if I had kids I wouldn't have brought them to this.
@@FestArc Oh that's interesting! Where I live, only viewers 16+ are allowed.
I just went to see Oppenheimer (on a Sunday night). I haven’t seen the theater that busy in over a decade. It made me almost a little emotional, like a little piece of Americana was coming back to life.
Great review...✌🏽💯
Dan, Thankyou for this great explanation of why we love movies! You are the best and fairest of movie critics! Best wishes from Australia 🇦🇺 .
Great Barbie review. I didn’t watch the Oppenheimer one because I didn’t want spoilers though. I really value your opinion and sent the non-spoiler review on to my parents.
I also enjoyed Barbie quite a lot, and similarly my only qualm was that they seemed to fumble and jumble the message at the end. It kind of contradicted itself for a joke at the end.
Josh Hartnett gives such a great performance. I'm so glad you mentioned him.
The scene in the gym was absolutely incredible. Some of the best filmmaking I've ever seen.
I loved how self aware the Barbie movie was, especially how they pointed out how having Margot Robbie claim that she isn't pretty isn't the best way to get your point across. America Ferrera's speech was emotional, though it went on for a little too long.
the third act is honestly the most devisive part of the movie for me
@@ipunchedu8884yes not the ideology but how ending felt a little incomplete
@@ShieldYoung well that but also some things just don't make sense and even seem contradictory but that's what you get when you use satire and then actualy trying to put in a serious message using it
Honestly the angry response from the weird balding 40 year old men on twitter was the best marketing for it. I had no intention of seeing it but genuinely enjoyed it 😂
I also wish her speech was saying something new. It sort of felt like I had heard parts of it before. So it didn't blow my mind.
I agree completely, re: Barbie. Just really didn't land for me completely. Solid B+ movie ultimately, for me. I'm feminist AF, but the movie felt rather myopic in its feminism, imo. Which is cool! Stories can't be all things for all people. You could simply tell that an upper middle class, pretty, thin white woman who is married with kids wrote it--it drove the lens/perspective/values/conclusions, basically. It's fine! But it was a point of disconnection for me. Still super fun! Margot Robbie was exquisite.
I always appreciate Dan's thoughtful opinions
Would’ve loved to see more of Emily Blunt in Oppenheimer. An excellent performance and a slightly underutilized character.
There are already feminists complaining that Oppenheimer gives women so little screen time.
Definitely, she was great!
Love your take on the Oppenheimer
The Synder Cut joke had me rolling
Such great content here, love that...
It’s so interesting that women are able to easily empathize with male characters and their experiences, but men are so limited in their ability to empathize with female characters and their experiences
That's a really broad generalization. I may have felt that this movie's delivery was a little too on-the-nose, which bothered me more than people who have lived experiences that are different from mine, but I've empathized with lots of other female characters in countless other movies. I don't feel that my ability to do so is limited in any way.
Anyone else notice Dustin Hoffman in Oppenheimer? He just sits there!
7:23 thank you Dan, you are on point imo. I had the exact same thought when I heard that line.
Was not expecting how deep and wonderful this video was gonna be. Why do I ever doubt you 😂
I did not realize that was Gary Oldman as Truman, I thought he was great as Truman. Also I did not like the nudity personally, but it was sufficiently jarring and I think they were neccessary, while feeling gratuitous but I think it did a lot for understanding the character especially the scene during the hearing.
Lastly saw the movie in regal IMAX and i really didnt have any sound mix issues, I just had trouble understanding people through their accents sometimes (not the mix just some of the accents were hard to decipher sometimes). lol
Apologies that this is not Barbenheimer related but Dan are you aware of the play “The Shark Is Broken” that is coming to Broadway? It’s about the behind the scenes struggle bringing Jaws to life! I feel like this is a show you NEED to see!!
As far as the Ken argument goes, they did just try to attempt a coup of Barbieland; so limiting the Kens’ power for a while seems justified. I find it refreshing that Barbieland forgives but holds people accountable for their possibly treasonous behavior. Must be nice.
I wanted the Barbies to allow the Kens to have their own houses. That would’ve been reconciliation.
I think it’s meant to reflect the reality that women face having to go back to living in a patriarchy after exiting the fantasy of the movie. Things in the real world aren’t magically fixed yet -it will take many decades to get there and that reality that is mirrored in Barbieland.
They tried to attempt a coup... because they were treated so poorly? The whole "Ken coup" was my least favorite part of the movie. While I loved America Ferrera's speech, it made no sense that she delivered it to the Barbies. The Barbies couldn't possibly understand nor feel moved by it because their reality was the opposite. They were never oppressed, damn, they were not even expected to be "stereotypically perfect". They ruled their reality! Instead, if they wanted to deliver a powerful message they should have done it in the real world -to real women.
@@terra1508 but barbieworld is a feminine utopia (can’t quite say feminist as they did ostracize weird Barbie). The lesson learnt from the Real World and at the end of Ken’s arc is subjugating a group and creating a second class is unjust. It was strange not to end in equality as that would be the utopia Barbieland could imagine. I think they undid their own messaging to insert a cheap joke about the Supreme Court. Ken’s could’ve had their own homes and jobs that Mattel could sell. Lol. But girls don’t buy Ken dolls or Ken’s dream house! Hmm tension bw product vs film?
@@carlafabioladealbanavarro4797 I didn’t feel connected to the big speech and agree with your reason for why it fell flat to me. I’m the spinster cat lady that the conservatives laugh at and yet I liked parts of the Ken coup. I think Kens were mistreated. I didn’t like the extremity of Ken’s fascist backlash at Barbie’s rejection coz I liked Ryan’s Ken and didn’t want to hate him. But then he admits his own identity crisis and I honestly connected to that more than Barbie’s arc. Weird.
I saw both of them Friday, and this was the busiest I've seen my regular theater in forever.
I did not expect such a thematic overlap between the two. Oppenheimer would have fit right in the Kendom with how he treated the women in his life. Also dropping the bomb was really just a big beach off.
but tbh, it was completely normal and acceptable for men to go around having multiple affairs... If you watch Mad Men, or look into the Kennedy family and the way the men treated women... it lines up like crazy... they were all that bad in a way, especially with not cheating on their wives
Skipped the Barbie part, since I'm planning on watching it this week. Oppenheimer was tremendous. The entire runtime you can feel a heavy gravitas on yourself. The bomb explosion was truly exceptionally well made, since it was filmed so realistically. When the blast reached the lookout post after traveling the whole nine kilometers, I was sure it almost burst the theater's sound system. Remarkable moment.
Also: Tom Conti as Einstein - I'm sad his performance will get buried somewhat, since there are so many other outstanding characters as well, but he managed something really memorable: Make Einstein work as a character. Too many times I've seen the man get turned into some kind of caricature. But not here. Nolan gives the man the dignity and underlying sadness on what his work had caused decades later. I've even somewhat called the final twist not being about Strauss, but oh man...I had no idea Nolan would turn my expectation around and ram it this hard inside my guts. That was haunting.
I love your points on Oppenheimer, Dan. I got the same feelings about it. I love your points on barbie, too. I’ll listen to you from now on. I can’t wait to see both again
Mojo Dojo Casa House is the best joke in the movie, there's no arguing about that.
I'm just imagining an Eddie Murphy style comedy where Oldman plays Stalin, Churchill and Truman during that conference and they get into all sorts of shenanigans
#AskDan a topic I would love for you to cover is the difference between the premium theatrical formats, such as IMAX 70mm, IMAX digital, Dolby, XD, etc. Oppenheimer is a perfect jumping off point as I've seen tons of discussion about what the best way to view it is given the limited availability of what Christopher Nolan designated the optimal format (IMAX 70mm)
Briefly, in case I don't get to it: IMAX is both a film format and an exhibition method. So there's true IMAX, which are the screens that are designed for films that are shot on IMAX cameras to be projected in the native IMAX format and aspect ratio. Most IMAX theaters aren't this. Most are IMAX-branded large format screens, which are big but maybe not able to project in native IMAX dimensions - the majority of AMC IMAX screens fall into this category, which is why some people call it Lie-Max. IMAX theaters of all types project movies digitally. Some IMAX screens are also equipped with 70mm film projectors, which is Nolan's preferred format. There aren't a lot of those, which is why 70mm screenings are reportedly sold out for weeks in many markets. Dolby XD and the like are also considered PLF (premium large format) screens, but they don't project movies in the IMAX format or aspect ratio - the picture is often cropped to fit a 'normal' sized rectangular movie screen as opposed to IMAX's more square aspect ratio. They get the premium tag because of superior sound and often picture quality due to upgraded speakers and projectors.
I'm glad as a critic you make the effort to see and admit when some or all of something isn't meant for you. With so much vapid content out there these days, or remakes that do all they can to neuter any bite the original had, I'm fine with Barbie being a bit heavy handed in its messaging. Better than watering it down or the writers trying to be more clever than they are.
When I realized how Nolan called back the "Destroyer of Worlds" during the bomb test, and realized what sound, what only sound, was in the background, then I forgave how the quote was first used. The call back was worth it.
I thought the first 10 minutes was a bit rushed. I felt it was like a montage. I think I only settled in and started to get immersed when Oppie goes to Berkeley.
I also agree to the choices Nolan made, in regards to the bomb, THE bombs, and keeping the movie focused on characters. I think the IMAX part of it misled people that there was going to be a spectacle. Göransson's score was bigger than the screen during my IMAX showing. Nolan sort of snookered us to watch an introspective character study of historical figures, and I'm glad I fell for it.