I just wish Kroft wasn't still convinced that a proven, admitted fan script was an 'early draft'. We even know who wrote it! Apart from that one sticking point, his research is excellent.
@@Tharsis_Romulus should be the movie finally connecting Prometheus saga and standard alien. I read somewhere that David is depicting Romulus in some way and this next film should enlighten us a bit. I deeply hope so at least
@@frantheman1287 oh no, that first movie is pretty much the perfect sci-fi horror movie. I love that movie best. But I like prometheus way more than Aliens or the other sequels. One of the reasons I love Prometheus, is because it gives me a valid reason to completely remove the AVP movies from my head canon lol.
yeah i seriously disregard anyone above 35-40 YO who says its shit or (insert crappy critique here) to many old farts want an exact carbon copy of the first 2 films, they get it (romulus) than say its to similar and want something different, (prometheus) then proceed to whinge, bitch and moan its not what they want. What they actually want is to feel like they did when they saw the first 2 movies with their rose tinted nostalgia goggles, which is quite literally impossible. We almost had a trilogy of mytho epics diving into new territory and because of terminal whingers and moaners we wound up with covenant instead.
I love Prometheus and Covenant. I know they have their issues. People make very valid points about plot holes and everything else. But I don't know I just really dig it. It was such a fresh new story. Its so interesting. Like it could almost be real. The concepts have so much potential. For someone who "knows in e.t. life" it was something I've been waiting for. If they would've went with the original ideas and concepts for Prometheus and really leaned into it, I believe it could've been the best sci-fi film. Im hoping the new Alvarez film does incredible in theaters so they get motivated and return to these 2 films. But staying away from the zenomorphs as much as possible. So its not a horror film but a sci-fi film. Just really doing a storyline completely on the Engineers. Even better would be a series instead of a film. If only lol
Infelizmente os fãs idiotas forçaram o alien no enredo. Acabou virando a mesma porcaria e, bem mau feita. Onde já se viu explorar um planeta desconhecido sem roupas hermeticamente fechadas ?
Before you delete you channel please let me know so i can download your videos, you don't know how much your voice mean to me , i fall asleep by your voice beside the drugs, i have stopped doing drugs and your voice has a great part of it. no words neither feelings can express my thank you.
I can relate, few years ago I worked far from home, very far. Would visit home every few months. No friends and I didn't want to hang out with my colleagues. I too would play his videos and pass out like a baby... I'm home now but I come back to this channel every now and then, it's now tradition...
I think you do a good job connecting the alien lore. Your videos give a lot more answers than what other channels provide. Thank you for putting in the work!
Why don’t audiences like the Engineers? The xenomorph could’ve been one thing in their vast interstellar arsenal, but now we’ll never know because they don’t go boom enough for most audiences
People didn't kind them at first because they didn't understand the concept, and they thought the movie was going to be more about the Xenomorph. I'm stoked for Romulus
I'm absolutely livid to know that people "just wanted a xenomorph movie" like the movie wasn't even named "ailen" it was pretty obvious in the title they were going that philosophical route...big example of the masses just being dumb
I think that has more to do with the studios and producers and writers and advisors all putting their take and input into the soup over the years with different cast and crews and stuff and so naturally over time things start to blend and mix and contradict and get forgotten and rebooted and restarted and rewritten and so yeah i think ridleys vision overall is the canon i follow lol sorry 😅😅@frantheman1287
@kelb0y9o20 I'm a talking about the 2 sequels contradicting his original movies. Along with his interviews answering the same questions with different answers
Its funny because i explained to my wife that i was taught in catholic school that one of the first reasons people within his town believed jesus to be the son of god was because he was a baby for merely days, a child for merely weeks, and then he was all of the sudden an adult. This showed them that he was different. The very next day we both watched prometheus for the first time, and because i had just told her that, she immediately made the connection within the movie.
When the Engineer touched Davids head, it looked as if it had done it with empathy - at first. I wonder, if David had been human. Would the Engineer think differently of humanity?
Prometheus and Covenant set up a point that seemingly nobody has picked up upon. The 'Engineers' are based upon the ancient myth of the Annunaki, whom were giants from another planet that created humans by accelerating the evolution of apes and infusing it with their own DNA. This is evident from the fact that in Prometheus, the humans have the same DNA as the 'engineers'. The story we seen in Prometheus - and partially in Covenant - are a very modern and re-fitted imagination of the Epic of Gilgamesh, mixed with other ancient lore. The Epic of Gilgamesh is about the hero, Gilgamesh, his companion, Enkidu, and Gilgamesh's quest to find fame and immortality. Along the way, they encounter otherworldly individuals and complete several impressive feats that anger the gods. In this case, Weyland, essentially, is Gilgamesh, and Enkidu, is David. In the mythology, there were the igigi, young beings of the 'annunaki', that rebelled against them. as a result, they created humans, in order to do their labor and work. Enlil wanted a slave race of beings and insisted on placing a worship gene within humans.This is exactly what Weyland also wanted and built, and created a 'worship gene' within his creation - david. That very much became clear in 'Covenant', where he ordered David to make him tea, and he could not resist. It set the stage. In this case, Weyland also was Enlil. Enlil appointed Enki in actually 'making' the humans. Enki put the essence of the annunaki and aswell gave man a soul, he wanted humanity to be superior to the annunaki. Weyland claims David does not have a soul. It seems however, this is not entirely true from the way covenant also goes down. He is clearly not like the other 'robotic' drone androids. The exact fate of the Igigi after the creation of humans can vary depending on the specific Mesopotamian myth or text being referenced. In some accounts, the Igigi were banished to the underworld or were forced to live in a separate realm apart from the affairs of humans and the higher-ranking gods. another aspect is about Marduk's anger Marduk, the Enlil of the gods, got angry. His mind became furious. He made an evil plan to disperse the land and its peoples.His angry heart was bent on leveling the land and destroying its people. A grievous curse formed in his mouth.Evil portents indicating the disruption of heavenly harmony. This is clearly what David 'became'. Now, obviously it doesnt follow the story to the letter, but it takes a whole bunch of elements, mixes and fuses it to create it's own story. This is what religion has done too, the Noah story is a literal steal from the Epic of Gilgamesh and the flood. There is also a lot of Christian and Judaic lore in the movie too. The 'jesus messiah and Armageddon in particular. There is a hint towards Jesus, as there is a claim that the 'engineers' wanted to go to Earth 2000 years before. Mostly however, it might revolve around the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 by the Romans. It's interesting that the planet Shaw and David go to, had very clear Roman-esque design, btw. But regarding to the Armageddon lore, there is a text in the bible (revelations) saying : let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: It is the number of a man; and his number is six hundred and threescore and six (666). Ridley scott very much spoke about the Alien as 'the beast'. that people wanted to see 'the beast' (covenant). The 'xeno' is based upon human infection, making it the result of human 'a human number'. David, was supposedly an ancient king, a king that would slay down the giant Goliath. There is a clear link here too, even though ironically, it was Goliath that took David's head in 'prometheus'. At the same time, when everybody was scared of Goliath, David (supposedly) stood up against the tyrant, which is essentilally what we see in both Prometheus and Covenant. David was a man of bloodshed, easily angered, and obsessed with a 'god complex'. He also committed adultery and murdered the husband of his 'lover'. David, in prometheus, 'fell in love' with Elizabeth Shaw, and killed her husband by putting him 'in the frontline' - he knew he'd die by his actions ( the black goo ). Indirectly, David impregnated shaw creating 'their' offspring. David caused a child with Bathsheba, but the child was cursed. Shaw's child, was clearly 'cursed'. Just like shaw decided to stay with david, bathsheba stayed with david, despite being responsible for the death of the husband, their true love. David later had other children with Bathsheba, one of them became king solomon, who was 'wise' and had thousands of wives. David killed and used the corpse of Shaw to create 'his offspring', the 'beast', the 'xeno', which could produce thousands of offspring (thanks to the covenant ship). Matter of fact, david took control of the covenant in the jewish lore. in the movie, david, in the end, takes control of the covenant. in the story of prometheus, prometheus supposedly was a hero that stole fire from the gods and brought it to mankind. this essentially is a metaphor of bringing 'knowledge' and 'wisdom' or 'intelligence' from the gods to man. that's essentially the same we see over and over again regarding lucifer, but also in the annunaki and other stories. As a punishment, prometheus, the titan, would have his liver eaten out by an eagle, alive, and die, and be ressurrected every day. in his 'ted talk', Peter weyland claims, that since they can create 'artificial life' ( the androids ), 'they are the gods now'. If you then finally analyze every story in history, it's essentially all every time a copy-paste and repeat. That's essentially what the whole lore seems to e about. The annunaki also had creators. Simply put, the engineers, are not the creators. That much became clear in Prometheus too. They are simply 'creations' that made their own 'creations' : mankind. And mankind created another creation : Artificial beings ( androids , artificial intelligence ). The artificial beings themselves also try to repeat that and create their own offspring : david tries to recreate the aliens. every time, the 'offspring' rebel against their masters.
@@jdfoster23 regarding how much mythology is implemented into the alien universe, which also includes the 'blade runner' movie(s) AND the predator franchise (supposedly), and Weyland's comment 'i refuse to believe we are the byproduct of random chance and accidents', one would have to lean towards 'something' in that direction, somehow. that said, the mythology also is set up very grounded. though very dark in atmosphere (that goes for blade runner aswell), one would also have to note that there should obviously also be a side we never saw, and likely never get to see, which is very 'light'. the alien universe (including blade runner) are very much thriller-noir-horror. so there's no room for anything else. still, going to the 'lighter' side, there are elements of that. The including of the cat, and that the cat survives and has a good life. Bishop and Walter meaning well. The (mistaken) human concept of good vs evil like there is some 'super good god-being' and some 'super evil god-being' of religious mythology is present in the real life. since clearly the myhtology is based upon that, it's reasonable that there will be some 'lore' there too. what 'kind' of 'being' or 'OG being' that is, and whether that is even something capable of portraying or imagining is another story though.
@@manoahvanderwolf3259loved your mythos correlation, you should post or video your ideas, and more people reading about ancient sumerian mythos would help clarify these themes that most see as "religious riff raff"... An example is morbid angel video, garden of disdain,.the story of these alien gods leaving earrh, you ahould watch the video and.tell us what you think❤
Before the Anunna were the Hyperboreans. The Engineer is based on the Hyperboreans. The death and resurrection theme is not semitic. They have absorbed this in their mythology. What you speak of are what are called the “younger gods”, not the actual gods.
appreciate the longer video, I really love the prequel lore. they cut a lot of crucial information out of the story just to keep it at around the 2hr mark. it would be nice to continue the story after covenant maybe in comic or video game form to really flush it out, but a series would be best because they have this idea of keeping the movies around 2hrs with no extended directors cut
The Deacon’s lore and the Engineer’s beliefs of Sacrifice kinda reminds me of the ritual that an evil group was trying to perform in the Silent Hill franchise with Alessa. How her own mother and the group tried to use her a sacrifice vessel in order to revive the God they worshipped.
All they have to do in the universe is make it so that engineers transcend, wait out the big crunch for the next big bang, and then return to create engineers and xenomorphs again repeating the cycle. The xenomorphs allow the engineers to reproduce when they lose that ability and the cycle just repeats
Kroft, I am Obsessed with Alien movies. I don't know why I am so drawn to the series after 40 years. Have watched I,II, Promethues, and Covenant countless times. Thank you for helping me continue my obsession😊😊
same here brother, ALIEN "tickled" something very special within^^... Event Horizon, Alien...perhaps its coz of my love and admiration for the artist that made all this possible in the 1st place: Hans Ruedi Giger. The man with the (artistical) vision and plan. I was born 1973 and watched Alien for the first time ever in like 1983 or so, I was IMMEDIATELY in love/scared to death/blown away by every aspect of the film!
@@Puppy_Puppington I can't say that I know if Disney owns Deadpool x Wolverine or not. What I do know is that the recent Predator movie (Prey) was a dumpster fire. Not because the lead role was a woman, not because of the time period or the setting, but because at it's core,it was/is moronic. Spoiler, the Predator was killed basically by its own stupidity. A creature that is the top of the line killer in all the universe is basically killed off by Home Alone traps. The Alien movie's prior to the new one were terrible as well for similar reasons. Disney's Star Wars movie's have managed to do the impossible too. That being taking a franchise that is literally a license to print money as long as the plots were believable and the acting not wooden and running it into apathy. I don't like them. I don't hate them. I just don't care about them anymore. Surely you remember at least a handful of movies and can say to yourself that they're light years better than anything today.
Scott clearly knows his history. Very similar to the oldest human stories written down about Sumerian gods. Not really “gods” but more evolved aliens that visit earth.
Shaw is an incredible charachter. Probably even more iconic than Ripley. Not only a scientist but an absolute badass!!! She didnt deserve what David did to her😔
Bro no way by a mile. Ripley was an amazing character. No offense but no one remembers Shaw but they do Ripley she’s the one who’s iconic. It’s super ok to really like Shaw but what you said just isn’t true at all
David Adair speaks about his experience of a conscious organic ship. The Dr Michael Salla interviews are quite remarkable. The xenomorph turning into a mountain is reflective of many legends of beings turned into mountains, not least at Mt Abu, India. In fact, pareidolia apart, many mountains depict eroded faces still visible all over the world. I hope this helps. Gratitude.
Every 10 years or so a film comes along with a narrative more advanced than it's average audience. In hindsight, younger generations will often anchor themselves around such films.
Man it's such a shame how the movie was cut. If they didn't cut out the stuff that they did, it would have really made it a pretty good movie. It wouldn't have made it the best movie ever or anything, but for me, it would have changed it from a huge disappointment to a pretty good movie. The franchise has so many strange and just plain awful decisions that I don't understand how anyone could have thought things like killing Newt, Hicks, and Shaw off screen were good choices...
Ehm ... Ackghtually, the LV22:3 translation says that *_"If_*_ the offerings (by the Israelites) are touched (by the descendants of Aaron, a.k.a. the priests) _*_while_*_ (that priest) being unclean (sick or unwashed or deviled) _*_then_*_ that person (the priest) must be 'separated' (fired from priesthood/banished from society)"_ . So not that the touching itself turns the priest unclean. That would be kinda ridiculous, as the offerings were demanded (by god) to serve as meals for the priests. If they wouldn't be allowed to touch these offerings at all then the priests wouldn't be allowed to eat, meaning that the priests all would've st4rv3d to d34th after a few weeks
Glad to see people are warming up to the Engineers being part of the Alien universe. I'm a big Alien 1979 fanboy, but I loved Prometheus from the start. Nice see the shift. Glad you released one big video Kroft. Much appreciated 🎉🎉🎉
@@06mrselfdestruct It might come as a suprice to you, but not everyone likes the Engineer being "human". When you look back at some forum from 2012 arround the time when the movie was released you can easily see that.
I never thought it would be possible to find people that seem to love these movies as much as I did. Devastated that we won't get another one. Shout out you guys!!! ✊✊✊
Can you do a video specifically on the anatomy of Xenomorphs? I want to know how they developed with mechanical attributes? They seem to have pipes and tubes along their face, metal teeth, etc. How did these evolve?
my head canon is that they have an internal pressure bladder, and a series of valves, so they have hydraulics instead of muscle fibers thats why their blood is so acidic because it's basically space-void proof antifreeze hydraulic fluid.
@@MikeTall88 You are correct, I do not think that. Or was that a question and you just forgot the punctuation? Please google the definition of the word "mechanical" if you think you have that in your body.
@@jays7761 lol, you're not getting a why, the "why" is part of the mystery. answering that inherent question removes from the awe and mystery surrounding the "why". part of why (lol) the alien is so strange is because it has parts that doesn't resemble any other organism we know of on Earth.
They really need to release a version of Prometheus with all the cuts, back lore, and philosophy that these videos cover! Scott could get a whole series of movies out the Creators; sadly I don't think a lot of the population would rush to see it.
People complained so much about no alien that we didnt get a end to the Engineers story. I would have taken this over seeing a movie based off of the Xenomorph again. People hate change
Thanks for keeping up Prometheus lore. I think this movie had its issues, but i think it had so much potential. Even the seeds left behind gave us new questions to ponder and new universes to explore
The engineer is a sci fi version of "the magician" & "ruler" archetypes. A successful magician that manages to leave a mark on the world, (humans and aliens). But a failed ruler, not a cowardly ruler but a ruler that's not very concerned about the health of their people.
Thank you for this all the missing info was perfect! Prometheus is one of my favorite movies of all time, I hope a Romulus sequel expands on the engineers!
Both ships on LV-223 and LV-426 failed in their missions to make a judgment on humanity. Will the Engineers send a third ship, or will they be curious about the coincidences that make it seem as if Earth has some kind of divine protection? Perhaps Jesus had a secret plan in mind for Earth that was unknown even to the Engineers who sent him.
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I’m glad people still care about Prometheus lore years later
Me too, I think it's such a shame that Alien Covenant is not getting a sequel to close the story😢
It's one of my favourite films in the franchise. I watch it often.
It was a masterpiece to me
I just wish Kroft wasn't still convinced that a proven, admitted fan script was an 'early draft'. We even know who wrote it! Apart from that one sticking point, his research is excellent.
I loved it! Wish we got more Engineer lore.
don't know why but I can't get enough of this
im obsessed with this.
i need one more movie.
i need more!
@@petercriscuolalet’s find it!
@@petercriscuola Hopefully Romulus will be good.
It's like an extension of the bible :P
@@Tharsis_Romulus should be the movie finally connecting Prometheus saga and standard alien. I read somewhere that David is depicting Romulus in some way and this next film should enlighten us a bit. I deeply hope so at least
I don't care about the haters, I am a Prometheus enjoyer.
I like Prometheus and Covenant way more than the og alien movies.
I'm a big prometheous fan. I genuinely don't understand the disdain people have for this movie. It's a brilliant movie.
@@frantheman1287 oh no, that first movie is pretty much the perfect sci-fi horror movie. I love that movie best. But I like prometheus way more than Aliens or the other sequels. One of the reasons I love Prometheus, is because it gives me a valid reason to completely remove the AVP movies from my head canon lol.
@@jonathanlopez2697because people became a lot dumber in the 2010s. That's why they hate Prometheus.
yeah i seriously disregard anyone above 35-40 YO who says its shit or (insert crappy critique here) to many old farts want an exact carbon copy of the first 2 films, they get it (romulus) than say its to similar and want something different, (prometheus) then proceed to whinge, bitch and moan its not what they want. What they actually want is to feel like they did when they saw the first 2 movies with their rose tinted nostalgia goggles, which is quite literally impossible. We almost had a trilogy of mytho epics diving into new territory and because of terminal whingers and moaners we wound up with covenant instead.
I love Prometheus and Covenant. I know they have their issues. People make very valid points about plot holes and everything else. But I don't know I just really dig it. It was such a fresh new story. Its so interesting. Like it could almost be real. The concepts have so much potential. For someone who "knows in e.t. life" it was something I've been waiting for. If they would've went with the original ideas and concepts for Prometheus and really leaned into it, I believe it could've been the best sci-fi film. Im hoping the new Alvarez film does incredible in theaters so they get motivated and return to these 2 films. But staying away from the zenomorphs as much as possible. So its not a horror film but a sci-fi film. Just really doing a storyline completely on the Engineers. Even better would be a series instead of a film. If only lol
Well, there are doing an alien tv series, don’t know what it will be about , but I hope for more engineer lore :)
me too lil buddy
@@OSTEHOPP sorry chum but theyre completely disregarding prometheus/covenant...not sure if theyre making their own engineer lore but still annoying
The voice of Kroft adds the extra magic to every video.
Geyyyyyyy!
Kroft would be good at audio books 💯😎
Your dedication to this story is second to none.
"Hellooo guys, Kroft is here". My ears melt.
😂😂
That’s ASMR you are experiencing 🤤
@@Alberts_Stuff Exactly that. 😅
Infelizmente os fãs idiotas forçaram o alien no enredo. Acabou virando a mesma porcaria e, bem mau feita. Onde já se viu explorar um planeta desconhecido sem roupas hermeticamente fechadas ?
@@robertoprimordial2633 amore
Brooooo ty for keeping this lore alive, so much potential, so much filmography and all washed in the drains for stupid money
At this point I can never imagine an Aliens lore video without this voice
Its like the old animated creepy pasta vids from 2016 😂 . I still remember people reacting to them
😂😂😂
Thank you very much for this. I'm glad you're back and can't wait on your videos of Romulus when it's out 😁
Its trash,guarenteed garbage sry
Don't complain about your kids being assholes if you don't stick around to raise them.
Before you delete you channel please let me know so i can download your videos, you don't know how much your voice mean to me , i fall asleep by your voice beside the drugs, i have stopped doing drugs and your voice has a great part of it. no words neither feelings can express my thank you.
leutin09. I don't play warhammer either but leutin09
I use TubeMate. With the app you can easily rip a mp3 of this video to your phone.
If thats true thats fucking sick. My guy stopped someone from taking drugs
I can relate, few years ago I worked far from home, very far. Would visit home every few months. No friends and I didn't want to hang out with my colleagues. I too would play his videos and pass out like a baby... I'm home now but I come back to this channel every now and then, it's now tradition...
congratulations on stopping drugs brother much love from france
You’re videos are to good. I love watching them before bed. You deserve a like
Same lol
I think you do a good job connecting the alien lore. Your videos give a lot more answers than what other channels provide. Thank you for putting in the work!
Please never change the background soundtrack in your videos.
It's perfect
Is it from half life? It reminds me of some of that soundtrack
@@noneofyourbeezwax7284 it sounds like but AFAIK it's not and I played a lot of HL
This message!! I feel the same!! Where can i find it?
Why don’t audiences like the Engineers? The xenomorph could’ve been one thing in their vast interstellar arsenal, but now we’ll never know because they don’t go boom enough for most audiences
I personally love the concept of the Engineers
People didn't kind them at first because they didn't understand the concept, and they thought the movie was going to be more about the Xenomorph. I'm stoked for Romulus
Truly enraging
Too philosophical for the masses
I'm absolutely livid to know that people "just wanted a xenomorph movie" like the movie wasn't even named "ailen" it was pretty obvious in the title they were going that philosophical route...big example of the masses just being dumb
Missed your uploads! Been watching this channel for a min, cant wait to see you cover Romulus!
I hope Ridley gets to make his last movie in the trilogy. This is really disappointing that he did not get the chance.
When all his movies contradict themselves it's not hard to imagine he wouldn't get more opportunities.
I think that has more to do with the studios and producers and writers and advisors all putting their take and input into the soup over the years with different cast and crews and stuff and so naturally over time things start to blend and mix and contradict and get forgotten and rebooted and restarted and rewritten and so yeah i think ridleys vision overall is the canon i follow lol sorry 😅😅@frantheman1287
@kelb0y9o20 I'm a talking about the 2 sequels contradicting his original movies. Along with his interviews answering the same questions with different answers
The Engineer's explanation of Jesus would answer why the Bible only mentions his childhood once and then he is 30 years old.
Its funny because i explained to my wife that i was taught in catholic school that one of the first reasons people within his town believed jesus to be the son of god was because he was a baby for merely days, a child for merely weeks, and then he was all of the sudden an adult. This showed them that he was different. The very next day we both watched prometheus for the first time, and because i had just told her that, she immediately made the connection within the movie.
When the Engineer touched Davids head, it looked as if it had done it with empathy - at first. I wonder, if David had been human. Would the Engineer think differently of humanity?
I wonder if the engineer was a bit impressed before his hatred and anger took over and he remembered his purpose.
It’s not empathy, it’s spiritual disgust.
Your Alien Videos are such a joy! Can't wait for Romulus and your thoughts on it! ☺️
Legendary voice Sir, with the fine blend of the background music haha
Prometheus and Covenant set up a point that seemingly nobody has picked up upon. The 'Engineers' are based upon the ancient myth of the Annunaki, whom were giants from another planet that created humans by accelerating the evolution of apes and infusing it with their own DNA.
This is evident from the fact that in Prometheus, the humans have the same DNA as the 'engineers'.
The story we seen in Prometheus - and partially in Covenant - are a very modern and re-fitted imagination of the Epic of Gilgamesh, mixed with other ancient lore.
The Epic of Gilgamesh is about the hero, Gilgamesh, his companion, Enkidu, and Gilgamesh's quest to find fame and immortality. Along the way, they encounter otherworldly individuals and complete several impressive feats that anger the gods.
In this case, Weyland, essentially, is Gilgamesh, and Enkidu, is David.
In the mythology, there were the igigi, young beings of the 'annunaki', that rebelled against them. as a result, they created humans, in order to do their labor and work.
Enlil wanted a slave race of beings and insisted on placing a worship gene within humans.This is exactly what Weyland also wanted and built, and created a 'worship gene' within his creation - david. That very much became clear in 'Covenant', where he ordered David to make him tea, and he could not resist. It set the stage. In this case, Weyland also was Enlil. Enlil appointed Enki in actually 'making' the humans. Enki put the essence of the annunaki and aswell gave man a soul, he wanted humanity to be superior to the annunaki.
Weyland claims David does not have a soul. It seems however, this is not entirely true from the way covenant also goes down. He is clearly not like the other 'robotic' drone androids.
The exact fate of the Igigi after the creation of humans can vary depending on the specific Mesopotamian myth or text being referenced. In some accounts, the Igigi were banished to the underworld or were forced to live in a separate realm apart from the affairs of humans and the higher-ranking gods.
another aspect is about Marduk's anger
Marduk, the Enlil of the gods, got angry. His mind became furious. He made an evil plan to disperse the land and its peoples.His angry heart was bent on leveling the land and destroying its people. A grievous curse formed in his mouth.Evil portents indicating the disruption of heavenly harmony.
This is clearly what David 'became'.
Now, obviously it doesnt follow the story to the letter, but it takes a whole bunch of elements, mixes and fuses it to create it's own story. This is what religion has done too, the Noah story is a literal steal from the Epic of Gilgamesh and the flood.
There is also a lot of Christian and Judaic lore in the movie too. The 'jesus messiah and Armageddon in particular. There is a hint towards Jesus, as there is a claim that the 'engineers' wanted to go to Earth 2000 years before. Mostly however, it might revolve around the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 by the Romans. It's interesting that the planet Shaw and David go to, had very clear Roman-esque design, btw.
But regarding to the Armageddon lore, there is a text in the bible (revelations) saying : let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast:
It is the number of a man; and his number is six hundred and threescore and six (666). Ridley scott very much spoke about the Alien as 'the beast'. that people wanted to see 'the beast' (covenant). The 'xeno' is based upon human infection, making it the result of human 'a human number'.
David, was supposedly an ancient king, a king that would slay down the giant Goliath. There is a clear link here too, even though ironically, it was Goliath that took David's head in 'prometheus'. At the same time, when everybody was scared of Goliath, David (supposedly) stood up against the tyrant, which is essentilally what we see in both Prometheus and Covenant. David was a man of bloodshed, easily angered, and obsessed with a 'god complex'. He also committed adultery and murdered the husband of his 'lover'. David, in prometheus, 'fell in love' with Elizabeth Shaw, and killed her husband by putting him 'in the frontline' - he knew he'd die by his actions ( the black goo ). Indirectly, David impregnated shaw creating 'their' offspring.
David caused a child with Bathsheba, but the child was cursed. Shaw's child, was clearly 'cursed'.
Just like shaw decided to stay with david, bathsheba stayed with david, despite being responsible for the death of the husband, their true love.
David later had other children with Bathsheba, one of them became king solomon, who was 'wise' and had thousands of wives. David killed and used the corpse of Shaw to create 'his offspring', the 'beast', the 'xeno', which could produce thousands of offspring (thanks to the covenant ship). Matter of fact, david took control of the covenant in the jewish lore. in the movie, david, in the end, takes control of the covenant.
in the story of prometheus, prometheus supposedly was a hero that stole fire from the gods and brought it to mankind. this essentially is a metaphor of bringing 'knowledge' and 'wisdom' or 'intelligence' from the gods to man. that's essentially the same we see over and over again regarding lucifer, but also in the annunaki and other stories. As a punishment, prometheus, the titan, would have his liver eaten out by an eagle, alive, and die, and be ressurrected every day.
in his 'ted talk', Peter weyland claims, that since they can create 'artificial life' ( the androids ), 'they are the gods now'.
If you then finally analyze every story in history, it's essentially all every time a copy-paste and repeat. That's essentially what the whole lore seems to e about. The annunaki also had creators.
Simply put, the engineers, are not the creators. That much became clear in Prometheus too. They are simply 'creations' that made their own 'creations' : mankind. And mankind created another creation : Artificial beings ( androids , artificial intelligence ). The artificial beings themselves also try to repeat that and create their own offspring : david tries to recreate the aliens. every time, the 'offspring' rebel against their masters.
Do you think there is a single all powerful and all knowing infinite deity like God/Jesus in this alien universe?
@@jdfoster23 regarding how much mythology is implemented into the alien universe, which also includes the 'blade runner' movie(s) AND the predator franchise (supposedly), and Weyland's comment 'i refuse to believe we are the byproduct of random chance and accidents', one would have to lean towards 'something' in that direction, somehow.
that said, the mythology also is set up very grounded. though very dark in atmosphere (that goes for blade runner aswell), one would also have to note that there should obviously also be a side we never saw, and likely never get to see, which is very 'light'.
the alien universe (including blade runner) are very much thriller-noir-horror. so there's no room for anything else.
still, going to the 'lighter' side, there are elements of that. The including of the cat, and that the cat survives and has a good life. Bishop and Walter meaning well.
The (mistaken) human concept of good vs evil like there is some 'super good god-being' and some 'super evil god-being' of religious mythology is present in the real life. since clearly the myhtology is based upon that, it's reasonable that there will be some 'lore' there too.
what 'kind' of 'being' or 'OG being' that is, and whether that is even something capable of portraying or imagining is another story though.
@@manoahvanderwolf3259loved your mythos correlation, you should post or video your ideas, and more people reading about ancient sumerian mythos would help clarify these themes that most see as "religious riff raff"... An example is morbid angel video, garden of disdain,.the story of these alien gods leaving earrh, you ahould watch the video and.tell us what you think❤
Before the Anunna were the Hyperboreans. The Engineer is based on the Hyperboreans. The death and resurrection theme is not semitic. They have absorbed this in their mythology. What you speak of are what are called the “younger gods”, not the actual gods.
This reply is absolutely amazing. Thank you for posting it! @manoahvanderwolf3259
Kroft is here! 👽
jealous of our hair.... lol
This is blowing my mind, finally this all makes sense.
On planet 4 the people are not terrified by the ship at sight, so maybe the different ships do not define factions.
Nice man appreciate time and effort
Deadly. Love your videos glad to see new ones up. I've watched several other channels lore videos and personally i enjoy your take on the alien series
Second script makes sense, they should have done that to give continuity to Alien.
appreciate the longer video, I really love the prequel lore. they cut a lot of crucial information out of the story just to keep it at around the 2hr mark. it would be nice to continue the story after covenant maybe in comic or video game form to really flush it out, but a series would be best because they have this idea of keeping the movies around 2hrs with no extended directors cut
Hi Kroft. Love your voice man. Thank you for the hard work you do for us.
Wow just over an hour long 😮 this video must have taken a while to put together Kroft🙏🏻👍🏻
It's older videos all edited together, so it probably didn't take that long.
Great to see the Annunaki return in this compendium!
Thank you for this well-crafted content about the great movie Prometheus.
You’re the man Kroft! Excellent work !
The Deacon’s lore and the Engineer’s beliefs of Sacrifice kinda reminds me of the ritual that an evil group was trying to perform in the Silent Hill franchise with Alessa. How her own mother and the group tried to use her a sacrifice vessel in order to revive the God they worshipped.
All they have to do in the universe is make it so that engineers transcend, wait out the big crunch for the next big bang, and then return to create engineers and xenomorphs again repeating the cycle. The xenomorphs allow the engineers to reproduce when they lose that ability and the cycle just repeats
Kroft, I am Obsessed with Alien movies. I don't know why I am so drawn to the series after 40 years. Have watched I,II, Promethues, and Covenant countless times. Thank you for helping me continue my obsession😊😊
same here brother, ALIEN "tickled" something very special within^^... Event Horizon, Alien...perhaps its coz of my love and admiration for the artist that made all this possible in the 1st place:
Hans Ruedi Giger. The man with the (artistical) vision and plan. I was born 1973 and watched Alien for the first time ever in like 1983 or so, I was IMMEDIATELY in love/scared to death/blown away by every aspect of the film!
Of course we love your content. And I'm looking forward to see the best videos your gonna make after Romulus hits theaters!!!!
I still love Prometheus. I saw it 3 times in the theater. I also got to see it on imax and it was amazing.
More Kroft videos on alien lore is always a blessing 🫡🔥
Respect for keeping the alien franchise and prometheus relevant after these many years since its release
The most horrifying thing to occur in the Alien "universe" is being bought by Disney. Same goes for Predator. Disney: destroyer of good things.
Idk. Wasn’t Deadpool x Wolverine still Disney owned/bought? It seems they still did whatever they wanted.
@@Puppy_Puppington I can't say that I know if Disney owns Deadpool x Wolverine or not. What I do know is that the recent Predator movie (Prey) was a dumpster fire. Not because the lead role was a woman, not because of the time period or the setting, but because at it's core,it was/is moronic. Spoiler, the Predator was killed basically by its own stupidity. A creature that is the top of the line killer in all the universe is basically killed off by Home Alone traps. The Alien movie's prior to the new one were terrible as well for similar reasons. Disney's Star Wars movie's have managed to do the impossible too. That being taking a franchise that is literally a license to print money as long as the plots were believable and the acting not wooden and running it into apathy. I don't like them. I don't hate them. I just don't care about them anymore. Surely you remember at least a handful of movies and can say to yourself that they're light years better than anything today.
Silver lining, perhaps? Alien Queen is now Disney Princess
@@adamxhanley HA! Nice. I'm not Degeneration X, but I've got 2 words for ya.... DEFUND DISNEY!!!
They better acknowledge them in alien Romulus !!!!!!
Even if they do, what's the point? That movie looks really bad.
Scott clearly knows his history. Very similar to the oldest human stories written down about Sumerian gods. Not really “gods” but more evolved aliens that visit earth.
Love it! A prequel of a prequel, is needed! lol
I missed you videos Kroft, i watch them before sleep. Keep on the good work!
Shaw is an incredible charachter. Probably even more iconic than Ripley. Not only a scientist but an absolute badass!!!
She didnt deserve what David did to her😔
Bro no way by a mile. Ripley was an amazing character. No offense but no one remembers Shaw but they do Ripley she’s the one who’s iconic.
It’s super ok to really like Shaw but what you said just isn’t true at all
Thank you so much!
This video brings me so much joy! ❤
Thank for this. It's a good listen on my drive home.
Also a drinking game where you take a shot every time Kroft says "engineeeer" would be wild.
Dr Shaw never lost her faith….. that’s why she survived the ordeal on LV423
I Love the Kroft Videos ❤
David Adair speaks about his experience of a conscious organic ship. The Dr Michael Salla interviews are quite remarkable.
The xenomorph turning into a mountain is reflective of many legends of beings turned into mountains, not least at Mt Abu, India. In fact, pareidolia apart, many mountains depict eroded faces still visible all over the world.
I hope this helps. Gratitude.
David will never find the Engineers' homeland for they have evolved to ethereal ( non-material ) beings as shown in Prometheus film.
Every 10 years or so a film comes along with a narrative more advanced than it's average audience. In hindsight, younger generations will often anchor themselves around such films.
man, just watched the original alien quadrilogy this week. Thanks!
I love listening to your Prometheus/Alien videos 😊
I LOVE THIS VIDEO!!! PLEASE DO MORE!! I NEED MORE!!!!!❤
Great video Kroft!
Kroft's voice makes me feel safe 😊
Man it's such a shame how the movie was cut. If they didn't cut out the stuff that they did, it would have really made it a pretty good movie. It wouldn't have made it the best movie ever or anything, but for me, it would have changed it from a huge disappointment to a pretty good movie. The franchise has so many strange and just plain awful decisions that I don't understand how anyone could have thought things like killing Newt, Hicks, and Shaw off screen were good choices...
YESSS THANK YOU RIGHT ON TIME LOVE YA PAGE
The *Greatest* *Sci~fi* movie almost made 🌌
Thanks for drawing me back into an old favorite.
Ehm ... Ackghtually, the LV22:3 translation says that *_"If_*_ the offerings (by the Israelites) are touched (by the descendants of Aaron, a.k.a. the priests) _*_while_*_ (that priest) being unclean (sick or unwashed or deviled) _*_then_*_ that person (the priest) must be 'separated' (fired from priesthood/banished from society)"_ . So not that the touching itself turns the priest unclean. That would be kinda ridiculous, as the offerings were demanded (by god) to serve as meals for the priests. If they wouldn't be allowed to touch these offerings at all then the priests wouldn't be allowed to eat, meaning that the priests all would've st4rv3d to d34th after a few weeks
Yeah yeah yeah. he who sits on the bench, with the man who has the discharge, must wash with water and will unclean until evening
GOAT is back ❤
Excellent idea for a complilation! Many thanks 👍
We definitely a Prometheus 2
nice to see a new Video from Kroft .! 🤩
man！CAN'T WAIT FOR YOUR NEXT VIDEO!
Dude I watched several of your videos over the years. Love this lore. Didn't realize I wasn't subscribed. My bad.
Always exciting to see Kroft videos. 👍
We appreciate you Kroft! Thank you for your wonderful videos
Great idea for making one video❤
Glad to see people are warming up to the Engineers being part of the Alien universe. I'm a big Alien 1979 fanboy, but I loved Prometheus from the start. Nice see the shift.
Glad you released one big video Kroft. Much appreciated 🎉🎉🎉
The engineer is at the beginning of Alien, of course they are part of the Alien universe
@@06mrselfdestruct It might come as a suprice to you, but not everyone likes the Engineer being "human". When you look back at some forum from 2012 arround the time when the movie was released you can easily see that.
@@davyheijlands1956 I saw this in the theater and me and my buddy loved it, me and my girl love it too, never bothered me
These are some fascinating and interesting videos
The “chimp out” meme made me want to look up Prometheus lore again😂
Was the LV-426 Engineer infected with a queen? Was this the queen we see in the second Aliens movie?
great vid
Love your videos
Amazing 🎉 i really appreciate the work you do.
What is up krof!
I never thought it would be possible to find people that seem to love these movies as much as I did.
Devastated that we won't get another one.
Shout out you guys!!! ✊✊✊
Great video
The fact that so many important details ended up on the cutting room floor is an absolute shame.
“Realizes humans are a violent dangerous species”……….
Immediately proceeds to rip David’s head from his shoulders and goes on a rampage 😂
So basically the Engineer said "You call this a creation?" Rips off David's head and attacks the crew.😭💀
Can you do a video specifically on the anatomy of Xenomorphs? I want to know how they developed with mechanical attributes? They seem to have pipes and tubes along their face, metal teeth, etc. How did these evolve?
my head canon is that they have an internal pressure bladder, and a series of valves, so they have hydraulics instead of muscle fibers
thats why their blood is so acidic because it's basically space-void proof antifreeze hydraulic fluid.
@@apokatastasian2831 I'm not asking what they have... I'm asking why. How did organic creatures develop mechanical body parts?
You don't think your shoulder or elbow is mechanical in the same sense.
@@MikeTall88 You are correct, I do not think that. Or was that a question and you just forgot the punctuation? Please google the definition of the word "mechanical" if you think you have that in your body.
@@jays7761 lol, you're not getting a why, the "why" is part of the mystery. answering that inherent question removes from the awe and mystery surrounding the "why". part of why (lol) the alien is so strange is because it has parts that doesn't resemble any other organism we know of on Earth.
Fook yeah
They really need to release a version of Prometheus with all the cuts, back lore, and philosophy that these videos cover!
Scott could get a whole series of movies out the Creators; sadly I don't think a lot of the population would rush to see it.
Good content .. 👍🏼
People complained so much about no alien that we didnt get a end to the Engineers story. I would have taken this over seeing a movie based off of the Xenomorph again. People hate change
Thanks for keeping up Prometheus lore. I think this movie had its issues, but i think it had so much potential. Even the seeds left behind gave us new questions to ponder and new universes to explore
Scott needs to relase his Directors Cuts of Prometheous & Covenant.
The engineer is a sci fi version of "the magician" & "ruler" archetypes.
A successful magician that manages to leave a mark on the world, (humans and aliens).
But a failed ruler, not a cowardly ruler but a ruler that's not very concerned about the health of their people.
Prometheus is one of my top ten favorite movies of all time.
I have yet to see any series have anything even close to accurate like this
Thank you for this all the missing info was perfect! Prometheus is one of my favorite movies of all time, I hope a Romulus sequel expands on the engineers!
Both ships on LV-223 and LV-426 failed in their missions to make a judgment on humanity. Will the Engineers send a third ship, or will they be curious about the coincidences that make it seem as if Earth has some kind of divine protection? Perhaps Jesus had a secret plan in mind for Earth that was unknown even to the Engineers who sent him.