I have been using crop netting for about 8-9 years. The only thing I do different is I string a 3/8 polypropylene rope at the top of the t-posts and zip tie the netting to it. It is not necessary for beans, but when loaded down with vegetables like cucumbers or cantaloupe it stops the sagging with heavy crops.
Great info Travis. I do agree with Robert on this one. I've used the crop netting this way for years too. It is a great fit for the garden. Mr Donald "webcajun" posted a video 9 years ago about how to put up the netting with the rope for the top if anyone wants that info. Certainly helps prevent it from sagging when the fruits are heavy. Here's a link to his video. He's got some great information there. ua-cam.com/video/bBeQT6kVR_w/v-deo.html
@@highergroundfarm7527 Yes, that is where I learned about crop netting. Learned a lot from him on UA-cam channel and his forum "thebayougardener.com/smf
Thank you for this information, it really helped me out. I just turned 64 today and this is my 1st yr trellising and growing lima beans large n small. This idea HELPED MY OLD BONES. LOL This is gonna save me so much, God Bless you sir
Thank you for this. I bought some netting this year to put up my tall beans but couldn't decide how to do it. this will definitely be my way next year. thank you again.
Just to let y’all know, I bought some pink eye purple hulls from y’all and I’ve been picking peas by the 5 gallon bucket!! No kidding. From seeds to tools I couldn’t be happier. Thanks from north Texas.
What I did is have the T-PVC pipes & conduit. And in and out on the top of the mesh and put the T pvc’s on top of the pot and I absolutely love it, and that would hold everything up without drooping. Plus it’s easy to take down and transfer
I used this trellis on green beans this year. Best trellis I’ve ever used. I drove in 6’ tposts and zip tied 2x2 wood to extend it to 7’. Tied 4 strands of bailing string to the posts and tied the trellis to it periodically. Used 7’ wide stuff. It will sag if you don’t support it some but is great stuff.
I'm sooooo glad I found this video!!! I was trying to find an enexpemsive way to trellis my cucumbers and baby melons. This has saved me sooooo much money. Thanks for sharing! You have a new subscriber
I'm putting this same trellis up today for my pole green beans , melons and cucumbers 🥒 Thank you , plus it's so much cheaper then cattle panels - God bless you all at hoss Mrs Josette Tharp Montgomery County, Texas 🙏🏻
I got two of the 100 ft. lengths from y'all, and have my beans trellised to it. I put it up myself and it really was very easy. Will be interesting to see how many seasons' use I can get out of it.
@@gardeningwithhoss I'm thinking about installing 2 of the liquid fertilizer tanks y'all sell. Do i have to use a certain fertilize in them for them to work efficient?
As long as it's water soluble it will work. 20-20-20 works great because it's blue and you can tell when it's diluted. You can also use fish emulsion. We'll email you next week with a deeper explanation.
What about end of season do you have to throw away because of vines on netting. How would you clean to use again. Nobody every say anything about that. Cattle panels easy to clean. Thanks .
I got some for pretty vining plants ... i have a white vinyl privacy fence and this stuff is barely visible. I didn't have to drill into my fencing which is a bonus.
Works great for us. We suggest using a support stake every 10-15 feet. So with one roll of 48" x 16' netting, you would need at least two stakes to adequately support the mesh trellis. Hortonova Trellis Netting is super strong, yet lightweight and easy to install. Unlike metal trellising options, this polypropylene mesh will not rust or rot. It also doesn't harbor diseases from one crop to the next like a metal trellis will do. The mesh net is similar in strength to high-tensile fishing line, so it will not snap even when supporting the heaviest fruits. It is also UV-resistant and will not degrade in sunlight.
Great video. Two questions, is the netting reusable or is it destroyed with the vines at the end of season? Second. is it strong enough to handle vining winter squash like butternut squash?
It can be reused. But at 25 cents a foot, you can make that decision whether it's worth it or not. Some have suggested using a guidewire on the top and attaching the trellis to that for supporting heavier fruits.
@@boohoo210 Perhaps their garden center may have it or can order it. I purchased mine online from a nursery supply center. I paid around 87.00 for 225 ft. of netting and shipping.
Boo Hoo I was at Home Depot earlier today and they had some. However, it was only 5’x8’. They were in the outdoor section with tomato caves and tree stakes. If you want a longer roll of trellis, you will probably have to look elsewhere.
You're using the post driver wrong, give up on those brutal handles, and just grab the tube, slam it down on the post, much easier on the hands, :) thanks Travis I appreciate you sharing the trellis
The mesh net is similar in strength to high-tensile fishing line, so it will not snap even when supporting the heaviest fruits. It is also UV-resistant and will not degrade in sunlight.
I used the Hortonova Trellis netting for lima beans last summer for the first time. The bean stalks grew very well, but I was disappointed in the actual yield as it seemed like I had more stems and leaves than beans. My questions are; 1. What variety of lima beans do you recommend for climbing beans? 2. What do you suggest to clean out the old stalks from the netting to reuse for the next year? 3. What should be the distance between t-posts (as I had a great deal of sagging on my netting from the heavy stalk load)?
Good video, as always! I'll be adding some of this netting in the future, for sure. it won't totally replace my cattle panels, but I can see some advantages for sure. Dang......my list is growing, I'll have to order soon!
@@gardeningwithhossNo, no tunnels or arches with the netting, but I've got some random small areas where I could use a 4-8' trellis at certain times. Got a little something "crazy" in mind too, and I think this is just the material for it. Right now it's in the "imagination stage," which is also where a lot of my ideas stay, unfortunately! I've been known to be "long on imagination, short on execution!" I've actually had my eye on this type material for a while, just glad you are carrying it now!
You will find out that it will sag a LOT between the T posts and then it is a pain in the butt to pull all of the dead vines off the mesh at the end of the season. I would stick with the cattle panel.
We don't have any intentions of saving it. At 25 cents a foot, it's not really worth it to us.The trellis in this video is loaded down with cucumbers and doing great. Yes it sags a little but nothing to worry about.
So glad I found you ...Yes I'm going to get this trellis Such a better way so we can move it when needed! Can it be cut to fit if you go with longer lengths? 16ft is fine for most things in our small garden but I'd rather have the 59" so thinking the 100 ft would be good but would need to cut it. Do I need anything else to attach to tposts?
I’ve been trying to find this stuff locally and can’t. Big box stores keep showing me orange safety netting. Even the local farm stores. How long does shipping take?
have you found this to be weak after fruit grow on it? I used it this season for Kentucky wonder pole beans but mine are sagging big time and look like they gonna break at any point lol. Maybe i need to use more t posts.
hi there, enjoy the video, using zipties to tie the netting to the T-posts or wooden posts, will the tied point not slide down due to the weight of the fruits? Since there's really nothing that prevents the ziptie from sliding downward ? Can you explain how to ziptie the netting to the posts?
The netting makes for really easy cleanup. Just cut the zip ties on the post, and you'll pull up the plants and everything with the netting. We just roll it up and put it in the burn pile.
The netting makes for really easy cleanup. Just cut the zip ties on the post, and you'll pull up the plants and everything with the netting. We just roll it up and put it in the burn pile.
We only use them once and throw them away. They're not intended to be a product that is reused. You can roll up all your plant debris and trellis in one fell swoop and put it in the burn pile.
You can do peas very close to each other. LIke 5-7 cm . Because i had trouble in germination i put peas very close to each other,some sprouted next to each other and they grow nicely.
It does look nice but, I feel like it would take more time to clean off for the next season. I wouldn't want to make that investment to just throw it out.
Shit I just leave mine up. I might use it the next year or if I'm rotating, it may just stand there, but I'd rather have the cattle panels than some plastic shit thats gonna take 400 years to break down.
I’m a single elderly woman and this would be totally easy for me! Thank you!
I have been using crop netting for about 8-9 years. The only thing I do different is I string a 3/8 polypropylene rope at the top of the t-posts and zip tie the netting to it. It is not necessary for beans, but when loaded down with vegetables like cucumbers or cantaloupe it stops the sagging with heavy crops.
Thanks for the suggestion. Might have to try that!
Great info Travis. I do agree with Robert on this one. I've used the crop netting this way for years too. It is a great fit for the garden. Mr Donald "webcajun" posted a video 9 years ago about how to put up the netting with the rope for the top if anyone wants that info. Certainly helps prevent it from sagging when the fruits are heavy. Here's a link to his video. He's got some great information there. ua-cam.com/video/bBeQT6kVR_w/v-deo.html
@@highergroundfarm7527 Yes, that is where I learned about crop netting. Learned a lot from him on UA-cam channel and his forum "thebayougardener.com/smf
Thank you for this information, it really helped me out. I just turned 64 today and this is my 1st yr trellising and growing lima beans large n small. This idea HELPED MY OLD BONES. LOL
This is gonna save me so much, God Bless you sir
Thank you for this. I bought some netting this year to put up my tall beans but couldn't decide how to do it. this will definitely be my way next year. thank you again.
Just to let y’all know, I bought some pink eye purple hulls from y’all and I’ve been picking peas by the 5 gallon bucket!! No kidding. From seeds to tools I couldn’t be happier. Thanks from north Texas.
Great to hear you're having a stellar harvest Jason!
What I did is have the T-PVC pipes & conduit. And in and out on the top of the mesh and put the T pvc’s on top of the pot and I absolutely love it, and that would hold everything up without drooping. Plus it’s easy to take down and transfer
I used this trellis on green beans this year. Best trellis I’ve ever used. I drove in 6’ tposts and zip tied 2x2 wood to extend it to 7’. Tied 4 strands of bailing string to the posts and tied the trellis to it periodically. Used 7’ wide stuff. It will sag if you don’t support it some but is great stuff.
I always learn something new from watching your videos. Thanks for taking the time to put them on.
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
I'm sooooo glad I found this video!!! I was trying to find an enexpemsive way to trellis my cucumbers and baby melons. This has saved me sooooo much money. Thanks for sharing! You have a new subscriber
Thanks for subscribing Alicia and welcome to the channel!
We built two raised boxes at our home this year, and this netting is going to be perfect. Thanks for the recommendation!
Wonderful!
I'm putting this same trellis up today for my pole green beans , melons and cucumbers 🥒
Thank you , plus it's so much cheaper then cattle panels -
God bless you all at hoss
Mrs Josette Tharp Montgomery County, Texas 🙏🏻
I ordered some after watching your videos on them.
I got two of the 100 ft. lengths from y'all, and have my beans trellised to it. I put it up myself and it really was very easy. Will be interesting to see how many seasons' use I can get out of it.
Good to hear. Glad it was an easy install for you.
The best idea that I have seen for a garden bed. Thanks
Thank you!!! This is exactly what I needed!! Can't wait to use it!
Thank you Hoss for your videos they sure are informative. God bless everyone
That is an awesome product. Might need to get some for our garden.
We've always loved the cattle panels, but this stuff is a game-changer.
@@gardeningwithhoss I'm thinking about installing 2 of the liquid fertilizer tanks y'all sell. Do i have to use a certain fertilize in them for them to work efficient?
As long as it's water soluble it will work. 20-20-20 works great because it's blue and you can tell when it's diluted. You can also use fish emulsion. We'll email you next week with a deeper explanation.
Those nets pairs with the Premier one step in posts would be a great combination
Hi, I wanted to know if the netting is reusable, when the season is over. Great video. Thanks
yes, it is
@@gardeningwithhoss Thanks.
I just ordered some!!!!! Gotta try this out!!!
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Thank you so much for your idea. I had been looking for a good idea that your video gave me. It is exactly, what I wanted.
You are so welcome!
Thank you for sharing the video with good idea.I’m gonna use this method this year
Glad it was helpful!
What about end of season do you have to throw away because of vines on netting. How would you clean to use again. Nobody every say anything about that. Cattle panels easy to clean. Thanks .
We do only use our for 1 year.
I got some for pretty vining plants ... i have a white vinyl privacy fence and this stuff is barely visible. I didn't have to drill into my fencing which is a bonus.
I'm looking forward to using this method.
It's working great for us!
Thank you!
Thank you!
Thank you!
Easy peasy!!! Just placed my order on your site.
Thanks for your order Terri!
Wish I had known about this a few years ago. I'm still using cattle fencing in my garden. Thanks.
This stuff if a game-changer as far as ease of setup.
How did the plastic trellis work for you? I have use something similar and found it to sag and require more string to support
Works great for us. We suggest using a support stake every 10-15 feet. So with one roll of 48" x 16' netting, you would need at least two stakes to adequately support the mesh trellis.
Hortonova Trellis Netting is super strong, yet lightweight and easy to install. Unlike metal trellising options, this polypropylene mesh will not rust or rot. It also doesn't harbor diseases from one crop to the next like a metal trellis will do. The mesh net is similar in strength to high-tensile fishing line, so it will not snap even when supporting the heaviest fruits. It is also UV-resistant and will not degrade in sunlight.
Great video. Two questions, is the netting reusable or is it destroyed with the vines at the end of season? Second. is it strong enough to handle vining winter squash like butternut squash?
It can be reused. But at 25 cents a foot, you can make that decision whether it's worth it or not. Some have suggested using a guidewire on the top and attaching the trellis to that for supporting heavier fruits.
Does home Depot or box stores sell this netting?
@@boohoo210 Perhaps their garden center may have it or can order it. I purchased mine online from a nursery supply center. I paid around 87.00 for 225 ft. of netting and shipping.
Boo Hoo I was at Home Depot earlier today and they had some. However, it was only 5’x8’. They were in the outdoor section with tomato caves and tree stakes. If you want a longer roll of trellis, you will probably have to look elsewhere.
You're using the post driver wrong, give up on those brutal handles, and just grab the tube, slam it down on the post, much easier on the hands, :) thanks Travis I appreciate you sharing the trellis
Haha. Thanks for watching!
New subscriber here, thanks for sharing your trellis idea. So easy to put up and remove..😊
Welcome!
Thank you, I ordered some of this from the link on your site.
Thanks for your order!
How much weight can it handle and can I use it for raspberries and blackberry and grape Vines
The mesh net is similar in strength to high-tensile fishing line, so it will not snap even when supporting the heaviest fruits. It is also UV-resistant and will not degrade in sunlight.
Interesting video! I wonder if this would work for tomatoes - either tying or weaving. What do you think?
It should
I used the Hortonova Trellis netting for lima beans last summer for the first time. The bean stalks grew very well, but I was disappointed in the actual yield as it seemed like I had more stems and leaves than beans. My questions are; 1. What variety of lima beans do you recommend for climbing beans? 2. What do you suggest to clean out the old stalks from the netting to reuse for the next year? 3. What should be the distance between t-posts (as I had a great deal of sagging on my netting from the heavy stalk load)?
hosstools.com/product/christmas-lima-pole-bean/
3-4 feet apart.
How UV stable is it? It looks like you could use it for deer fence...
Very UV stable even in our extreme heat. It could be used for deer fence as long as the deer didn't try to run through it.
? At end of grow season ,you just roll it up with old vines,etc or try to remove vines like i would on cattle panels/cattle pasture wire ?
Most folks just roll it up and discard. But if you wanted to save it, you could remove the plant material.
How does it hold up in high winds with cucumbers in production?
Have had no issues here even through tropical storms.
Good video, as always! I'll be adding some of this netting in the future, for sure. it won't totally replace my cattle panels, but I can see some advantages for sure. Dang......my list is growing, I'll have to order soon!
You won't be able to do your arch with this, but should work for other trellising applications.
@@gardeningwithhossNo, no tunnels or arches with the netting, but I've got some random small areas where I could use a 4-8' trellis at certain times. Got a little something "crazy" in mind too, and I think this is just the material for it. Right now it's in the "imagination stage," which is also where a lot of my ideas stay, unfortunately! I've been known to be "long on imagination, short on execution!" I've actually had my eye on this type material for a while, just glad you are carrying it now!
Oh lordy. Can't wait to see what "Imaginative Tom" comes up with now!
Thanks so much!!
You're welcome!
This looks great but what happens to the plants that grow over 5' tall? Cattle panels can be attached to extend above the t-posts.
If they grow taller than that, they just fall over the sides. Still makes plenty of fruit and provides a little shade for the leaves.
You will find out that it will sag a LOT between the T posts and then it is a pain in the butt to pull all of the dead vines off the mesh at the end of the season. I would stick with the cattle panel.
We don't have any intentions of saving it. At 25 cents a foot, it's not really worth it to us.The trellis in this video is loaded down with cucumbers and doing great. Yes it sags a little but nothing to worry about.
@@gardeningwithhoss So nother words it's best just to throw away $625 for a 25' row. That's not very cost effective!!!
It would only cost $6.25 for a 25 foot row. Most folks would consider that a negligible cost. A handful of cucumbers will pay for that easily.
Hoss how long were those T-Post?
6 foot
Didn't hear...how long will this mesh last in the weather
years
So glad I found you ...Yes I'm going to get this trellis Such a better way so we can move it when needed! Can it be cut to fit if you go with longer lengths? 16ft is fine for most things in our small garden but I'd rather have the 59" so thinking the 100 ft would be good but would need to cut it. Do I need anything else to attach to tposts?
Zip ties
I’ve been trying to find this stuff locally and can’t. Big box stores keep showing me orange safety netting. Even the local farm stores. How long does shipping take?
Depends on shipping location but we ship same day if you order before 4 EST.
have you found this to be weak after fruit grow on it? I used it this season for Kentucky wonder pole beans but mine are sagging big time and look like they gonna break at any point lol. Maybe i need to use more t posts.
No we have not had that issue..
I like it!! Thank you sir!!!
That netting looks like a winner. I will trellis my cucumbers this year. Also I love my Hoss double wheel hoe!
hi there, enjoy the video, using zipties to tie the netting to the T-posts or wooden posts, will the tied point not slide down due to the weight of the fruits? Since there's really nothing that prevents the ziptie from sliding downward ? Can you explain how to ziptie the netting to the posts?
T-posts have notches on them. So you put the zip-ties between the notches and it keeps the netting secure and in place.
Do you use the LM or SM size?
Just read the SM is for smaller and the LM is larger.
We use the 59" tall netting in most instances. We did use the 48" tall netting on English Peas last fall and it worked well for those.
Perfect for ending up in the great garbage patch strangling sealife!
We don't put these in the garbage.
Are they strong enough to trellis tomatoes?
Yes
Thank you.
You're welcome!
What about cleaning up the lines after the season? I guess it's just trash after?
The netting makes for really easy cleanup. Just cut the zip ties on the post, and you'll pull up the plants and everything with the netting. We just roll it up and put it in the burn pile.
The netting makes for really easy cleanup. Just cut the zip ties on the post, and you'll pull up the plants and everything with the netting. We just roll it up and put it in the burn pile.
Will this netting work for black beauty eggplants?
yes
Thanks!
Is it hard to reuse this stuff?
Is this good for deer fencing
no, it would not be strong enough
I'm sold will get the 48x16. And t post how many t post do I need travis.
2-3 should do it. If you're doing cukes or something heavy, go with 3. If doing pole beans, 2 might suffice.
@@gardeningwithhoss . I do cucumbers on trellis and green beans as the Bush style. I'll grab 3T post just to make sure
Will it work on tomatoes?
Sure. You might have to help weave the tomatoes through the netting because tomatoes don't have tendrils. But have seen it done many times.
Would you be able to do tomatoes?
yes
Random enough I was just looking for a product like this.
Is this safe for an organic garden?
yes, it is.
I wonder how long these will last. I worry about dry rotting and such.
We only use them once and throw them away. They're not intended to be a product that is reused. You can roll up all your plant debris and trellis in one fell swoop and put it in the burn pile.
Man I can’t wait to do my sugar peas on this.... grew some last year and they were a big hit
Our English Peas are just now starting to produce. They're looking good on the trellis netting. Probably gonna have to cover the next week.
What is the spacing of peas and pole beans
4 to 6 inches apart in rows that are 30 to 36 inches apart.
You can do peas very close to each other. LIke 5-7 cm . Because i had trouble in germination i put peas very close to each other,some sprouted next to each other and they grow nicely.
Can these be purchased at local stores.
Here is link to ours. They come in 3 different sizes
hosstools.com/product-category/garden-supplies/plant-supports/
What do you do if the crop keeps growing beyond the height of the Hortonova?
They'll usually just start running laterally along the netting when that happens.
thanks!
Is it biodegradable or recyclable ? Beautiful garden by the way. 🤗🌎
It's burnable. That's what we do with ours. Just put the trellis along with all the plant debris in the burn pile.
You should never burn plastics! Take to recycle center.
wonder if this would be good for squash and zucchini
If they are the trellis kind. If more of a bush, it would not work
Any T posts substitutes?
Need something strong and sturdy. Can't think of anything that works as good as t-posts for the trellis netting.
Things would be easier if poly propylene nets are available in the market to arrange trellis
Thanks for watching
How far do you space the t posts?
We've been doing 10' which works well. If it was a really heavy crop, you could go closer.
Thanks!
How long dose it last in the sun
Polypropylene holds up well to UV exposure.
They would have to be easier. But they are proud of this stuff big time.
How long should that net last?
Several years
What do you do with all the cucumbers from a 40' row??? I have 6 plants and still give away about half of what it produces.
Eat some, give some away. Travis also has a weekly vegetable bag/CSA operation so nothing gets wasted.
Where can I buy the nest
You can see all our netting options here: hosstools.com/product-category/garden-tools/plant-supports/
Where can I buy that. Please let me know thank you.
Right here: hosstools.com/product-category/garden-tools-collection/tomato-cages-trellises/
Where can I buy this?
hosstools.com/?s=hortanova&post_type=product&post_type=product
It does look nice but, I feel like it would take more time to clean off for the next season. I wouldn't want to make that investment to just throw it out.
Cattle panels are $167.00 each here in Alberta 😳
I payed $71.00 For a roll 350ft x5ft soft weave trillis material. what is the cost of your item?
Our 59" x 328' trellis is here: hosstools.com/product/hortonova-trellis-netting-59-x-328/
Our 59" x 328' trellis is here: hosstools.com/product/hortonova-trellis-netting-59-x-328/
Glad I only bought 1 section of cattle panel lol
Haha. We've got quite of a few of them that we're going to have to find another use.
@@gardeningwithhoss just fed ex me them! Lol
Is it reusable
It could be, but not sure it would be worth the time to do so.
It could be, but not sure it would be worth the time to do so.
why no corn videos??
We have lots of corn videos. If you flip through our channel, you'll find them.
Scotch egg
Question:
Please spell name of trellis.
hosstools.com/product/hortonova-trellis-netting-59-x-328/
cut it in half. use bolt cutters.
N.
Nope, I'm not sold. Better off with the metal.
Shit I just leave mine up. I might use it the next year or if I'm rotating, it may just stand there, but I'd rather have the cattle panels than some plastic shit thats gonna take 400 years to break down.