It's nice to put a face with the person I've spoken with.. I'm really looking forward to working with your company... I have some really nice pieces to test and show .. I'm very exsighted to show your products off!!!
I’m curious why you wouldn’t want the sides (circumference) coated? if you’re trying to slow the end grain drying, so it doesn’t dry so much faster than the outside, wouldn’t you NOT want the outside to dry any slower?
Hello, by "coat" do you mean put cardboard on the outside rim of the wood cookies when they are drying? If so, we don't need to with these pieces since they still have the bark on them and the bark acts as a sealer already. Very little drying occurs on the outside of the wood (where the bark is). It is the "inside" of the wood that we want to dry at the same rate as the "surface" of the end grain, if that makes sense. So putting cardboard on the wood cookies helps slow the drying of the surface to even out the drying on the inside of the wood.
I have been watching your videos as I am trying to dry cookies from a Japanese cherry tree we had to take down in our backyard. :( Your videos are great and filled with very nice instructions. I have been following your advice with my cookies using Pentacryl but I have a question. At 5:28 (in this Part 2 of 3) you showed your wood pieces and stated you were looking for surface checking...I assume cracks in the grain. What if you see "surface checking" on one or more of the pieces? Do you have a suggestion on what to do with the rest to keep them from "surface checking"? What does it tell you?
Checking the Pentacryl treated wood as it is drying gives you an idea of its progress. We do recommend peaking behind the cardboard or brown paper. If you are seeing surface checking, it means it is drying too fast and we need to slow it down more. You can wrap the wood tighter (more snuggly) with cardboard or paper - move the wood to a cooler area - somewhere to keep it covered and out of the weather - with little air movement.
Just found out about your product the other day and have a gallon in transit. Question on drying. Does it give off any smell? I live in Houston where my garage can get into the 100°F range so was considering bringing them in the house to dry. Might be able to get away with it without the wife catching me if it doesn't smell. 🤣
No, there is not an odor to Pentacryl. Good idea to dry them in a cooler area as the 100 degree range will be too warm. Good luck keeping them hidden. :)
Why didn’t you wrap the untreated pieces also? I think if you wrapped the cookie or put them in saw dust your results would be the same without the cost ???
That is a good question. For this video, we dried the untreated pieces in the same temperature controlled room as the treated ones. Wrapping them may have helped slow the drying more and minimized more of the checking. On previous tests, we have used cardboard on both treated and untreated red oak cookies, where the untreated cracked even though it was dried slower.
Pentacryl stabilizes wood by absorbing all the way through, displaces the water, and leaves a thin coating on the wood cell walls. This prevents the cells from shrinking as the wood dries. Being 100% end grain on both sides (which is where all the drying occurs) treated wood cookies still need to dry slowly and controlled, especially larger pieces (over 10-12"). This is why we recommend the cardboard or brown paper.
It's nice to put a face with the person I've spoken with.. I'm really looking forward to working with your company... I have some really nice pieces to test and show .. I'm very exsighted to show your products off!!!
Chris, we are excited too and looking forward to seeing your beautiful wood!
@AdvancedTanningSolutions just did my shopping in the woods for logs to use the product on for the wood turning channel.
I’m curious why you wouldn’t want the sides (circumference) coated? if you’re trying to slow the end grain drying, so it doesn’t dry so much faster than the outside, wouldn’t you NOT want the outside to dry any slower?
Hello, by "coat" do you mean put cardboard on the outside rim of the wood cookies when they are drying? If so, we don't need to with these pieces since they still have the bark on them and the bark acts as a sealer already.
Very little drying occurs on the outside of the wood (where the bark is). It is the "inside" of the wood that we want to dry at the same rate as the "surface" of the end grain, if that makes sense.
So putting cardboard on the wood cookies helps slow the drying of the surface to even out the drying on the inside of the wood.
I have been watching your videos as I am trying to dry cookies from a Japanese cherry tree we had to take down in our backyard. :( Your videos are great and filled with very nice instructions. I have been following your advice with my cookies using Pentacryl but I have a question. At 5:28 (in this Part 2 of 3) you showed your wood pieces and stated you were looking for surface checking...I assume cracks in the grain. What if you see "surface checking" on one or more of the pieces? Do you have a suggestion on what to do with the rest to keep them from "surface checking"? What does it tell you?
Checking the Pentacryl treated wood as it is drying gives you an idea of its progress. We do recommend peaking behind the cardboard or brown paper. If you are seeing surface checking, it means it is drying too fast and we need to slow it down more. You can wrap the wood tighter (more snuggly) with cardboard or paper - move the wood to a cooler area - somewhere to keep it covered and out of the weather - with little air movement.
Just found out about your product the other day and have a gallon in transit. Question on drying. Does it give off any smell? I live in Houston where my garage can get into the 100°F range so was considering bringing them in the house to dry. Might be able to get away with it without the wife catching me if it doesn't smell. 🤣
No, there is not an odor to Pentacryl. Good idea to dry them in a cooler area as the 100 degree range will be too warm. Good luck keeping them hidden. :)
Why didn’t you wrap the untreated pieces also?
I think if you wrapped the cookie or put them in saw dust your results would be the same without the cost ???
That is a good question. For this video, we dried the untreated pieces in the same temperature controlled room as the treated ones. Wrapping them may have helped slow the drying more and minimized more of the checking. On previous tests, we have used cardboard on both treated and untreated red oak cookies, where the untreated cracked even though it was dried slower.
Couldn’t you just skip the pentacryl and put the cardboard around them and dry them slow? I’m not sure what the purpose of the pentacryl really is
Pentacryl stabilizes wood by absorbing all the way through, displaces the water, and leaves a thin coating on the wood cell walls. This prevents the cells from shrinking as the wood dries. Being 100% end grain on both sides (which is where all the drying occurs) treated wood cookies still need to dry slowly and controlled, especially larger pieces (over 10-12"). This is why we recommend the cardboard or brown paper.