I really enjoyed both your video. My thoughts are 1. I want Azriel to end up with Gwen. 2. I really think the end of Silver flames showed that Azriel was more in lust with Elaine and he just wanted to be with anyone and he was tired of wanting . 3. My hope is that Elaine turns evil not Lucian. 4. I think they’re both Gwen and Azriel have been through so much trauma that my hope is that they will learn and grow together that she’ll teach him that life is worth living, and that he will give her the strength to move past her trauma. 5. I think of the shadows show that they are comfortable with Gwen, and that they do not like Elaine. This was a great video, and I can’t wait for more of them thank you both
Ok wow I LOVE all your thoughts! That makes SO much sense about Azriel’s shadows not liking Elain so they disappear - that could totally be the case! It would also be super interesting if Elain was the villain and now Lucien. I’m not sure if I want that personally over Lucien, however, I still think it would be a better villain story than Briallyn in ACOSF! You’re also so right about both Gwyn and Az going through a lot of trauma. Having them heal and grow together would be pretty poetic 🥹 and yes about Az being more in lust with Elain than anything. That makes sense too! Thank you so much for watching and commenting! We’re glad you enjoyed this video. 🫶🏼
I want Elaine and azriel. She's the most badly treated character in the book. Every one looks down upon her and calls her boring because she's traditional, feminine and not a boss bitch like the other female characters. I want the underdog to win this time. A different heroine in Sarah's books for once. Just because she isn't an alpha female doesn't mean she doesn't deserve love.
I think it will be Az and Gwyn. And instead of Lucien, I think that Elain will betray them because she wants to be human so bad that she could be tricked easily.
I hope it's Elaine and Az. If you go back to the first time they met at the house you can see her pull to him. It seems they are setting up for a rejection of a mating. They always say like calls to like so who is Elaine most like? I think it's AZ. Also, they keep harping on Elaine's choice, this bond will actually make the three of them brothers. AND i saw a theory saying Az was her mate before she went into the cauldron and after it became Lucien. Def agree with Lucien villian arc!
Could you please please PLEASE talk about the possibility of him and Bryce? Throughout the CC series I never felt that Bryce and Hunt were mates or that they had this incredible connection. But the minute she portalled to Prythian and met Azriel, it just clicked for me. It could have been anyone from the inner circle at the caves but it was Azriel and Nesta. Nesta because she's starborn. And Azriel because I believe that he's her mate, and that's why their blades were complementary. They connected too, there was something intense there. Not to mention she's light and he's shadow. I don't know if these puzzle pieces were intentionally put there by Sarah, but it almost seems totally insane not to have them be mates. PLEASE TALK ABOUT IT
why does Elain absolutely need to end up with someone anyway? I'm not a big fan of her so if she ends up single I'm ok with it. However, I am torn because I really want Lucien to find happiness for himself. Would Elain be with her sister's ex? not sure about that. I think that Azriel and Gwyn would be a good healing story. But you know what I would want to read? Mor X Emerie or Eris X Azriel :)
Hot take, Az and Gwen: when Az is leaving the library, he said he felt something crack in his chest and that he could see Gwen’s eyes light up when she gets the necklace AND he stored the thought of her getting the necklace buried deep inside of him. How it states being lovely, and secret beauty which lets you know he’s going to be thinking of that moment. Even when they are training there is a lot of eluding to Gwen crushing on Az. I definitely think we haven’t met Gwen enough yet nor Az and I think Gwen and him will bond over what they have been through and something beautiful and understanding of each other will develop.
Have we considered that Lucien as Helion Spellcleavers heir could potentially break the mating bond between him and Elain? (Or Helion himself could but would be more fun to see Lucien step up into power eventually.)
Are you around? Gwyn is literally one of the best characters in the book. She is a scholar with th a tragic backstory who is brave and loyal. She is the first person to have the guts to join Nesta and goes way out of her comfort zone to become a warrior. She is also funny and has depth. Wth does Elain have to recommend her?!v she pretty. That’s her trait. Pretty.
These theories have been fun to watch! I personally think Elain will not end up with either Azriel or Lucien, but that we will get a full book playing with a love triangle between the three of them that will end with a Blood Duel that ruins everything. The reason I think that is because that duel had to be brought up for a reason and is a classic example of a Chekov's Gun, it will have to go off. I have three theories of how this could play out: 1. Elain and Azriel decide to try and be together causing Lucien to challenge a blood duel that plays out exactly how Rhys fears it would with the Night Court ending up in hot water with at least two other courts (Autumn and Spring) and potentially the Day court as well if his true parentage is revealed. 2. For one reason or another Elain and Lucien do end up making a connection which causes Azriel to lash out and challenge for a duel with Lucien instead (we have already seen Az not be able to contain his anger as seen in the high court meeting) which could lead to either the same result above except with Elain now mourning her mate, or with Lucien pulling an upset and managing to kill Az. 3. A blood duel could end happening between Az and Eris instead. Assuming a book features a love triangle between Az and Lucien, the Autumn Court will likely play a big role and could result in Eris finding some redemption by supporting his younger brother and taking on the duel on his behalf, which could result in the situation of Lucien becoming High Lord of Autumn is Eris dies and could also lead to a Lucien heel turn to villain if his brother is killed by Az.
I really enjoyed these videos ❤ my thoughts are 1. I don’t want elain and az but wouldn’t be mad with it but I think she might end up in the summer court maybe ? Randomly like Tarquin ? 2. Lucien would be such a good villain but I think mor is gonna be a villain or something because she hiding something she is soo shady to me. 3. I also saw a theory which doesn’t have much substance to back it up but Lucien and gywn could be sibling’s specifically twins ?or cousins or something that would be interesting.
Oh I LOVE the idea of Gwyn and Lucien being related!! I would be here for that definitely! I wouldn’t be mad about Elain and Az either, but having all 3 bat boys end up with all 3 Archeron sisters feels way too cliche for SJM. It’d be cute though still 🤷🏼♀️😂 I haven’t heard anyone say anything about Mor being a villain before! I personally don’t think that would happen, but never say never with SJM! Hahaha
I agree it would be to cliche for sjm for all bat boys to end up with the sisters but I don’t want her with Lucien either I think I needs to be someone completely new and a suprise
@@rhiannilsson220 TOTALLY! We talk about this in more detail in our ACOTAR Theories episode from last week, but we both actually want Elain to end up with Tamlin 🙊 there’s many reasons why, especially since I (Melissa) am not the biggest Tamlin fan, but it could give him the redemption we all didn’t know we needed 🤷🏼♀️
@@lamebookclubpod I watched that video and I do agree with Melissa that it is the only way I would see a tamlin redemption arch but I would personally love a eris redemption arch first. It leads on to mor being a bit shady. ❤️
I can’t decide who I want Az to end up with, but if he does end up with Elain some people think its cliche that the three sisters would get the three brothers. But thinking about TOG how Maeve could see who Aelin’s mate would be before she was even born. What if the cauldron knew the archeron sisters’ mates before they were born and brought all three bat boys together destined to be best friends for when the sisters came along? In ACOMAF when Feyre is first meeting the inner circle Cassian talks about the boys finding each other almost like the cauldron itself wanted that to happen and that Rhys’ mother saw it too. With this theory there would be an actual reason all three sisters end up with the three brothers instead of it just being a cliche.
@@Robloxlegend49 😂 I’m dead. We’re both hoping for a Tamlin redemption in the coming books! And Melissa mostly is hoping for a villain arc for Lucien lol. Where do you fall with these arcs?
Tbh … it's all so tangled up by now. I hope Elain won't end up with either Lucien or Azriel. And I am not sure about Gwen either … I know they are sweet but idk if she can deal with all his stuff.
@@piaw2859 we are so late to the party responding to this, BUT, honestly, I totally agree. Hot take: we both want Elain to end up with Tamlin. Floral Elain, who’s been protected/sheltered by her sister her whole life, ending up with a High Lord who just wants to love and protect someone? Poetic, IMO. And I’m not invested in Gwyn’s character enough to care if she ends up with someone else or just stays a good friend to Nesta/Emerie. 🤷🏼♀️ and I mean that in the sincerest way possible lol.
I really enjoyed both your video. My thoughts are
1. I want Azriel to end up with Gwen.
2. I really think the end of Silver flames showed that Azriel was more in lust with Elaine and he just wanted to be with anyone and he was tired of wanting .
3. My hope is that Elaine turns evil not Lucian.
4. I think they’re both Gwen and Azriel have been through so much trauma that my hope is that they will learn and grow together that she’ll teach him that life is worth living, and that he will give her the strength to move past her trauma.
5. I think of the shadows show that they are comfortable with Gwen, and that they do not like Elaine.
This was a great video, and I can’t wait for more of them thank you both
Ok wow I LOVE all your thoughts! That makes SO much sense about Azriel’s shadows not liking Elain so they disappear - that could totally be the case! It would also be super interesting if Elain was the villain and now Lucien. I’m not sure if I want that personally over Lucien, however, I still think it would be a better villain story than Briallyn in ACOSF!
You’re also so right about both Gwyn and Az going through a lot of trauma. Having them heal and grow together would be pretty poetic 🥹 and yes about Az being more in lust with Elain than anything. That makes sense too!
Thank you so much for watching and commenting! We’re glad you enjoyed this video. 🫶🏼
Opinion on the over 500 Eris x Azriel fics on Ao3, because I feel like I missed something 😅😂
I want Elaine and azriel. She's the most badly treated character in the book. Every one looks down upon her and calls her boring because she's traditional, feminine and not a boss bitch like the other female characters. I want the underdog to win this time. A different heroine in Sarah's books for once. Just because she isn't an alpha female doesn't mean she doesn't deserve love.
I think it will be Az and Gwyn.
And instead of Lucien, I think that Elain will betray them because she wants to be human so bad that she could be tricked easily.
I hope it's Elaine and Az. If you go back to the first time they met at the house you can see her pull to him. It seems they are setting up for a rejection of a mating. They always say like calls to like so who is Elaine most like? I think it's AZ. Also, they keep harping on Elaine's choice, this bond will actually make the three of them brothers. AND i saw a theory saying Az was her mate before she went into the cauldron and after it became Lucien. Def agree with Lucien villian arc!
Could you please please PLEASE talk about the possibility of him and Bryce?
Throughout the CC series I never felt that Bryce and Hunt were mates or that they had this incredible connection.
But the minute she portalled to Prythian and met Azriel, it just clicked for me. It could have been anyone from the inner circle at the caves but it was Azriel and Nesta. Nesta because she's starborn. And Azriel because I believe that he's her mate, and that's why their blades were complementary. They connected too, there was something intense there. Not to mention she's light and he's shadow. I don't know if these puzzle pieces were intentionally put there by Sarah, but it almost seems totally insane not to have them be mates. PLEASE TALK ABOUT IT
why does Elain absolutely need to end up with someone anyway? I'm not a big fan of her so if she ends up single I'm ok with it. However, I am torn because I really want Lucien to find happiness for himself. Would Elain be with her sister's ex? not sure about that. I think that Azriel and Gwyn would be a good healing story. But you know what I would want to read? Mor X Emerie or Eris X Azriel :)
Hot take, Az and Gwen: when Az is leaving the library, he said he felt something crack in his chest and that he could see Gwen’s eyes light up when she gets the necklace AND he stored the thought of her getting the necklace buried deep inside of him. How it states being lovely, and secret beauty which lets you know he’s going to be thinking of that moment. Even when they are training there is a lot of eluding to Gwen crushing on Az. I definitely think we haven’t met Gwen enough yet nor Az and I think Gwen and him will bond over what they have been through and something beautiful and understanding of each other will develop.
Have we considered that Lucien as Helion Spellcleavers heir could potentially break the mating bond between him and Elain? (Or Helion himself could but would be more fun to see Lucien step up into power eventually.)
Are you around? Gwyn is literally one of the best characters in the book. She is a scholar with th a tragic backstory who is brave and loyal. She is the first person to have the guts to join Nesta and goes way out of her comfort zone to become a warrior. She is also funny and has depth. Wth does Elain have to recommend her?!v she pretty. That’s her trait. Pretty.
These theories have been fun to watch! I personally think Elain will not end up with either Azriel or Lucien, but that we will get a full book playing with a love triangle between the three of them that will end with a Blood Duel that ruins everything. The reason I think that is because that duel had to be brought up for a reason and is a classic example of a Chekov's Gun, it will have to go off.
I have three theories of how this could play out:
1. Elain and Azriel decide to try and be together causing Lucien to challenge a blood duel that plays out exactly how Rhys fears it would with the Night Court ending up in hot water with at least two other courts (Autumn and Spring) and potentially the Day court as well if his true parentage is revealed.
2. For one reason or another Elain and Lucien do end up making a connection which causes Azriel to lash out and challenge for a duel with Lucien instead (we have already seen Az not be able to contain his anger as seen in the high court meeting) which could lead to either the same result above except with Elain now mourning her mate, or with Lucien pulling an upset and managing to kill Az.
3. A blood duel could end happening between Az and Eris instead. Assuming a book features a love triangle between Az and Lucien, the Autumn Court will likely play a big role and could result in Eris finding some redemption by supporting his younger brother and taking on the duel on his behalf, which could result in the situation of Lucien becoming High Lord of Autumn is Eris dies and could also lead to a Lucien heel turn to villain if his brother is killed by Az.
I really enjoyed these videos ❤ my thoughts are
1. I don’t want elain and az but wouldn’t be mad with it but I think she might end up in the summer court maybe ? Randomly like Tarquin ?
2. Lucien would be such a good villain but I think mor is gonna be a villain or something because she hiding something she is soo shady to me.
3. I also saw a theory which doesn’t have much substance to back it up but Lucien and gywn could be sibling’s specifically twins ?or cousins or something that would be interesting.
Oh I LOVE the idea of Gwyn and Lucien being related!! I would be here for that definitely!
I wouldn’t be mad about Elain and Az either, but having all 3 bat boys end up with all 3 Archeron sisters feels way too cliche for SJM. It’d be cute though still 🤷🏼♀️😂
I haven’t heard anyone say anything about Mor being a villain before! I personally don’t think that would happen, but never say never with SJM! Hahaha
We’re so glad you’re enjoying the videos 🤍 thank you for watching!
I agree it would be to cliche for sjm for all bat boys to end up with the sisters but I don’t want her with Lucien either I think I needs to be someone completely new and a suprise
@@rhiannilsson220 TOTALLY! We talk about this in more detail in our ACOTAR Theories episode from last week, but we both actually want Elain to end up with Tamlin 🙊 there’s many reasons why, especially since I (Melissa) am not the biggest Tamlin fan, but it could give him the redemption we all didn’t know we needed 🤷🏼♀️
@@lamebookclubpod I watched that video and I do agree with Melissa that it is the only way I would see a tamlin redemption arch but I would personally love a eris redemption arch first. It leads on to mor being a bit shady. ❤️
I can’t decide who I want Az to end up with, but if he does end up with Elain some people think its cliche that the three sisters would get the three brothers. But thinking about TOG how Maeve could see who Aelin’s mate would be before she was even born. What if the cauldron knew the archeron sisters’ mates before they were born and brought all three bat boys together destined to be best friends for when the sisters came along? In ACOMAF when Feyre is first meeting the inner circle Cassian talks about the boys finding each other almost like the cauldron itself wanted that to happen and that Rhys’ mother saw it too. With this theory there would be an actual reason all three sisters end up with the three brothers instead of it just being a cliche.
Poor Tamlin and Lucien.. it’s started off so well…
@@Robloxlegend49 😂 I’m dead.
We’re both hoping for a Tamlin redemption in the coming books! And Melissa mostly is hoping for a villain arc for Lucien lol.
Where do you fall with these arcs?
I’m team Gwyn
Tbh … it's all so tangled up by now. I hope Elain won't end up with either Lucien or Azriel. And I am not sure about Gwen either … I know they are sweet but idk if she can deal with all his stuff.
@@piaw2859 we are so late to the party responding to this, BUT, honestly, I totally agree.
Hot take: we both want Elain to end up with Tamlin. Floral Elain, who’s been protected/sheltered by her sister her whole life, ending up with a High Lord who just wants to love and protect someone? Poetic, IMO.
And I’m not invested in Gwyn’s character enough to care if she ends up with someone else or just stays a good friend to Nesta/Emerie. 🤷🏼♀️ and I mean that in the sincerest way possible lol.
@@lamebookclubpod yeah at this point I want Azriel and Eris, Elaine and Tam or Elaine and noone and Tam with Gwen