Ups & Downs From Star Trek: The Motion Picture (4K Director's Cut)

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  • @andromidius
    @andromidius 2 роки тому +170

    The Motion Picture also gave us one huge thing - the reimagined Klingons. Yes, they've changed somewhat over time - but this was the first time they were more then just men in wigs with a little bronzer makeup. The first time we saw them as an intimidating people with the powerful head ridges and metallic uniforms. TMP really was the start of the Star Trek we know today.

    • @bigneon_glitter
      @bigneon_glitter 2 роки тому +19

      Yep. Not the film fans wanted but the film the franchise needed. In 1979, a _Star Trek_ movie could have easily been campy, like _Flash Gordon._ Instead, _TMP_ established the universe the franchise has been playing in for 40 years.

    • @shenandoahbell455
      @shenandoahbell455 2 роки тому +7

      More importantly, it gave us our first example of entitled fans spitting their toys out in frustration over a Klingon redesign...
      ... Sure, now we see a Klingon with a slightly different head shape or blood that's the wrong shade of pink and we know that there will be fans vowing dismemberment on whoever produced this "travesty" but back in 1979 hating a production just because the klingons looked a bit different to 12 years before... Well, that was new and exciting.

    • @mwhalli
      @mwhalli 2 роки тому +10

      I could be wrong, but is it also the introduction of the Klingon theme?

    • @TheChancellor212
      @TheChancellor212 2 роки тому +7

      @@mwhalli yes it is.
      This film has easily the best score of all. As illustrated by the fact that elements of it were so iconic they were used for decades.

    • @mwhalli
      @mwhalli 2 роки тому +1

      @@TheChancellor212 definitely true.

  • @CaptRobertApril
    @CaptRobertApril 2 роки тому +118

    ​My one regret with this version is that they didn't add in Nimoy's ad lib in the last scene, "If Dr. McCoy is to remain on board, then my presence here is essential."

    • @Blazingstoke
      @Blazingstoke Рік тому +5

      My favorite line in the movie, "We all create God in our own image", is also left out, alas.

  • @andrewhayes88
    @andrewhayes88 2 роки тому +69

    When Kirk was looking at the Enterprise from the front and you can see his expression, they added a reflection like you were still looking at him from outside the shuttle and you can see the Enterprise in that reflection. Loved that.

    • @LeoFraga94
      @LeoFraga94 2 роки тому +7

      This is the best scene in a movie of all time, for me.

  • @Flarecobra
    @Flarecobra 2 роки тому +70

    Would love to see more "retro" ups and downs, and not just of the movies.

    • @ShonnDaylee
      @ShonnDaylee 8 місяців тому +1

      You got your wish. :)

    • @MakerBoyOldBoy
      @MakerBoyOldBoy Місяць тому

      I live in a movie industry town. We all forget they are simply entertainment and jobs for folks. Each job has its own set of stories and issues. Years ago I grew tired of listening to the endless word of alcoholic, druggie, narcissistic, or cruel actors and crew. I just want the untainted movie fantasy entertainment. It is great that new technology can rescue older movies.

  • @cejaprime
    @cejaprime 2 роки тому +50

    I finally get to watch this in the theater tonight! This film will never be dull to me, this is a true science fiction film.

  • @JessieGender1
    @JessieGender1 2 роки тому +88

    Agreed, this soundtrack is amazing.

    • @Chronix-
      @Chronix- 2 роки тому +1

      Oh look! I've seen your videos!

    • @Videocannal
      @Videocannal 2 роки тому +6

      Yay! Hey there Jessie. Our Star Trek Queen 🏳‍🌈

    • @nicholasmaude6906
      @nicholasmaude6906 2 роки тому +8

      I agree and IMO the best ever ST movie music score (Jerry Goldsmith really outdid himself when he wrote it).

    • @lorip.1110
      @lorip.1110 2 роки тому +2

      Even the six or seven excerpt tracks of unused music is pure gold(smith). Altman made the right call about there being no melody, but Jerry was one heck of a composer.

    • @etherealtb6021
      @etherealtb6021 2 роки тому +1

      5 ups for the soundtrack alone! 😍

  • @robertholtz
    @robertholtz Рік тому +9

    This WAS gorgeous in its day. It WAS truly spectacular on a level your generation cannot comprehend. Not only that, prior to this motion picture, all fans ever had of STAR TREK was the low budget TV show. Seeing STAR TREK alive in grand scale on the silver screen with state of the art sight and sound was EPIC in its day.

  • @ColinPMcEvoy
    @ColinPMcEvoy 2 роки тому +10

    Can confirm. The music in TMP is absolutely amazing. Plus the glory shots of the Enterprise are just…beautiful.

  • @dinomonzon7493
    @dinomonzon7493 2 роки тому +20

    Jerry Goldsmith’s “Enterprise” theme is simply Beautiful as it played during the inspection of the refitted Enterprise by Adm. Kirk & Cmdr. Scott. Odds are today’s movies would never allow such a detailed scene to be added.

  • @jameslocke1416
    @jameslocke1416 2 роки тому +7

    I was just nine years old when I first saw this in a theater, and my god… I was mesmerized. It totally blew my mind. I am dying for the chance to see this in a theater again, with all these subtle updates.

    • @MrMissingReel
      @MrMissingReel 4 місяці тому +1

      Me too....I was nine in 1979 when I saw it for the first time...time flies 😅

  • @drkmkt
    @drkmkt 2 роки тому +41

    I’m so happy I got to see it in a theater last night! I’ve never gotten the full cinematic experience that this film demands… until now!

    • @DarthSaggezza
      @DarthSaggezza 2 роки тому +1

      Where did you see it at? What theater in what town? I’m curious to know

    • @megatronjenkins2473
      @megatronjenkins2473 2 роки тому +2

      Same here, it was my first time seeing it on the big screen in any format, so I was very excited!!!

    • @drkmkt
      @drkmkt 2 роки тому +1

      @@DarthSaggezza it was a Fathom Events showing in Portsmouth NH

    • @auntykat8083
      @auntykat8083 2 роки тому +2

      Same! Watched it Sunday in a theater, first time. The experience elevated my regard for this movie. And, no shame here, I wept real tears when Spock requested permission to come aboard.

  • @CaptainRC1
    @CaptainRC1 2 роки тому +29

    One of the things I really liked is that they addressed one of the complaints about the movie... that three Klingon cruisers approached V'Ger, but we only saw two getting destroyed. In this new version, they show the first one getting destroyed in a graphic on the monitor of Epsilon Nine just as the station commander and the sensor officer are discussing the situation.

  • @michaelmiller3012
    @michaelmiller3012 2 роки тому +11

    Used to watch ST:TMP a lot with my baby son - he would just always stare at the screen in utter fascination. So now he's 17 and we went to watch this in the theater just yesterday (05/22/2022) and it was incredible.

    • @robertbanning9138
      @robertbanning9138 2 роки тому +1

      What a wonderful experience for you and your son to share!

  • @Seanginty1
    @Seanginty1 2 роки тому +7

    I saw this when I was 5. I'd been watching reruns of TOS regularly for a year. My little mind was blown by the beauty of the movie and the score. I didn't find it dull at all, so engrossed was I in the spectacle and wondering what would come next. I still try to approach the movie with that same sense of wonder and appreciation of the artistry involved. This was the thing that really galvanized my love of Trek, which endures and deepens to this day.

  • @GeorgeBratcherIII
    @GeorgeBratcherIII 2 роки тому +7

    Watched in 4K on my BIG Screen at home on Paramount+, and it truly felt like a NEW FILM visually! I was blown away. Aside from script issues, if this was released brand new in theaters today, I would go see it! Every Star Trek fan deserves to see this!

    • @Ottophil
      @Ottophil 2 роки тому +2

      You mean paramount+ its not on hbo max

    • @thewiirocks
      @thewiirocks 2 роки тому +1

      It was released in theaters. If you hurry, you might still be able to catch a showing at your local AMC!

  • @brianartillery
    @brianartillery 2 роки тому +4

    The Klingon theme at the beginning, when the 'Amar' and two other Klingon cruisers encounter V'ger, brought me out in goosebumps in the cinema in 1979, and has done so on every time I've heard it since. Thinking about it now, has brought me out in goosebumps. The soundtrack is that damn powerful.

  • @derekburrows1810
    @derekburrows1810 2 роки тому +3

    Seeing the new 4K version in the theater was an awesome experience. The new sound mix alone was worth the price of admission.

  • @Gallifrey1991
    @Gallifrey1991 10 місяців тому +2

    The fans demanded this version released again. It’s the best version. The editing is so much better. And its a stunning film on every level

  • @petefischer3820
    @petefischer3820 2 роки тому +8

    My sons and I saw it on the big screen on Sunday for a Fathom event. It was breathtaking and beautiful. It was the greatest it will ever be. I was grateful we got the chance to see it that way. To see The Enterprise.... joining Kirk and Scott as we swept over the mighty Starship.... incredible. The music beating like a heartbeat, the visuals.
    It was a great experience.

  • @MrBerniemcgovern
    @MrBerniemcgovern 2 роки тому +23

    Haven't seen this new cut, but Star Trek 1 impressed me so much. It's really best if you don't know the twist. It sustains apocalyptic tension right up to the point of realizing it's ourselves come home to reconcile. Tension without battles. I love it.

  • @megatronjenkins2473
    @megatronjenkins2473 2 роки тому +8

    I actually got to see this theatrically yesterday, and I was blown away by the visual changes! It was also my first time seeing it on the big screen, so I was pretty excited, and I was not let down!!!

  • @bigneon_glitter
    @bigneon_glitter 2 роки тому +13

    Love _TMP._ It's grand opera & gothic, psychological horror for grown ups in the grounded sci-fi of _2001_ and mood of _Vertigo_ (Goldsmith even nods to Bernard Herrmann's score). And it's what starship exploration would be like in reality: everything goes wrong, accidents happen, people get killed, egos are shattered, & you'd spend most of your time staring into the black, completely powerless but looking for meaning & connection to the unknowable - the film's point.

  • @ScramJett
    @ScramJett 2 роки тому +4

    This movie is, in my mind, pure Trek. It is the exploration of space, the exploration of the human condition, the exploration of the best of what we humans can be, the seeking out of new life and the unknown. It’s something I’ve missed from more recent iterations of Star Trek (and thankfully, so far, they’re bringing that back with SNW). I want to see more of this going forward. Yes, the diversity is great and it’s fantastic that we’re finally seeing recent Trek series be a bit bolder than they have been in the past. But diversity without working together in common cause, aka diversity with “grittiness” undermines what Trek is supposed to be. You take this, throw in what has been done with recently with diversity, and it is everything Trek was ever meant to be.
    In my view, this movie was way underrated. And we need more like it. Not everything has to be flash bang boom. And I think we’ve been getting so much of it lately (I’m looking at you and your lens flares JJ) that it’s getting nauseating.

  • @Rhewin
    @Rhewin 2 роки тому +4

    I can't tell you how happy I am you're doing this for the movies. I grew up on TNG, and this was my first intro to TOS. My dad picked it up from Blockbuster. I didn't even realize what it was at first. When they took the shuttle pod to drydock, I asked my dad where they were going. He said "to a ship you know." While it looked different from the D, I immediately recognized it as the Enterprise. I absolute fell in love with the design. It was so sleek and fit compared to the stretched out Galaxy class. To this day the refitted constitution is tied with the Excelsior for favorite design.

    • @thewiirocks
      @thewiirocks 2 роки тому +4

      As much as I love the D, the Connie refit is possibly the single most gorgeous space ship of all time. ❤❤❤

  • @GamingTeacher
    @GamingTeacher 2 роки тому +9

    Gotta admit, I would really like to see a retro ups and downs series, covering all of Trek. Do it like the episodes are brand new, like you’re seeing them for the first time in the year they came out. That could actually be really, really fun.

  • @LizFahyScott
    @LizFahyScott 2 роки тому +9

    I saw it in the theater when it came out. I was 12, and it bored me to tears. Still loved it, because it was Star Trek. I asked for (and got) the soundtrack for Christmas and listened to it on repeat. Loved that, too. Looking forward tot his remastered version.

  • @christopherferrarelli2262
    @christopherferrarelli2262 2 роки тому +5

    I was at the Fathom Events screening back in May, and every up and down you pointed out I totally agree with. There’s one up that I loved and it’s at the end of the movie. Toward the closing of the end credits, there’s a short dedication that says “For Bob”. The team behind this restoration worked with Robert Wise in 2001 for the original release of the Director’s Edition, and in the years that followed he sadly passed away. When they had the chance to do this 4K restoration, they did it to honor Robert Wise for what he did for Star Trek: The Motion Picture.
    I will make sure to get this with the box set coming out next week.

  • @SweatyFish
    @SweatyFish 2 роки тому +3

    Just saw it in a theater this past Sunday. I had never seen it on the big screen. It was amazing. Enterprise is just beautiful!

  • @barrygavin749
    @barrygavin749 2 роки тому +5

    My favourite of all the TOS era trek films

  • @DangerousParent
    @DangerousParent 2 роки тому +6

    Perhaps the film's slow pacing is meant to represent the "real" time Enterprise takes crossing space getting to V'Ger, and also the "real" time she takes crossing over/through V'Ger once getting there🤔 I agree, it's visually stunning😎

  • @richardjohnson9543
    @richardjohnson9543 2 роки тому +6

    I appreciated that Kirk's meeting with Spock and McCoy was finally placed in the observation lounge below the bridge where it was meant to be

    • @Revan2908
      @Revan2908 2 роки тому +3

      Actually, it was that way in the 2001 release, too. The difference with the 4K version is that they lowered the height of the nacelles in the window.

  • @jackfarris654
    @jackfarris654 2 роки тому +4

    This edition made the movie so much more enjoyable to watch. Absolutely stunning! Would love to see more retro ups and downs Sean!!!

  • @Anglipriest
    @Anglipriest 2 роки тому +6

    Just saw it in theater this evening. It truly was a gorgeous remaster.

  • @SNBgames
    @SNBgames 2 роки тому +12

    I'm gonna go look up the film rn! And here's to more retro Ups & Downs

  • @hankthepatriot3733
    @hankthepatriot3733 2 роки тому +16

    ST TMP IS the most Star Trek ever put to film! (Meaning that it's closer to the TOS then anything that followed, before the formula was change to emulate TWoK)
    Which is fine, I thoroughly enjoy this film and it's nice to see them explore strange new worlds and civilizations 😉

  • @hewh0wearspants
    @hewh0wearspants 2 роки тому +5

    I just saw this in theater yesterday! I also saw the theatrical release in theaters a while ago, because I’m a huge TMP apologist and aficionado, but it was the director’s cut that I’d really been wanting ever since I saw the original director’s cut on DVD way back in 2001. And just like with the theatrical cut, I think TMP really shines best in a theatrical setting. The absolute _grandness_ of it all, from cinematography to soundtrack, really fills the senses in a way that’s hard to describe. I actually avoided watching the 4K remaster on Paramount+ for that reason, to get the full cinematic effect, and by god it did not disappoint!
    If anyone has a lingering distaste for Star Trek: The Motion Picture, I’d highly encourage you to try to snag a seat at a theatrical showing of this new Director’s Cut, and if not at least give it a chance on the small screen. The 2001 Director’s Cut is what made me originally change my outlook on TMP, and maybe this will do the same for you

  • @1978rharris
    @1978rharris 2 роки тому +14

    Sean! Correction. Craig Huxley created the Blaster Beam, not Jerry Goldsmith. Craig Huxley also starred in two episodes of TOS: as Peter Kirk in “Operation: Annihilate” and as Tommy Starnes in “And The Children Shall Lead”.
    Just a heads up.

    • @billthomas2652
      @billthomas2652 Рік тому +1

      All the love to Jerry Goldsmith but I almost spit out my drink when he said that. The Beam was also used in The Black Hole just a week later in 1979! Oh, Huxley also composed the music for the Genesis demo in The Wrath of Khan.

  • @DonDonP1
    @DonDonP1 2 роки тому +9

    I love that new 4K "Director's Edition" so dearly to my heart, soul and mind. Thank you for sharing.

  • @kenhallermd8897
    @kenhallermd8897 2 роки тому +21

    I agree that the 2022 "Star Trek:The Motion Picture" is gorgeous, both visually and aurally.
    And Sean, I'm so glad you brought up "2001: A Space Odyssey." Paramount may have wanted another "Star Wars," but I also noticed, especially in this 2022 version, they got something much closer to "2001" instead. As you mentioned, this is obvious in the stateliness with which both films regard their ships and the trip of the Enterprise into the V'Ger cloud mirroring the stargate "2001" sequence. I would also add Spock traveling toward V'Ger in a red space suit that looks remarkably like Bowman's and the evolution of Ilia and Decker into a new life form being quite reminiscent of Bowman's evolution into the Star Child. (And whatever happened to the Ilia/Decker lifeform(s) anyway? Another unanswered ST mystery!) While "ST:TMP" may not be as profound as "2001," it's also not nearly as pretentious. And now it's more beautiful than ever.
    Thank you for this video.

    • @GPsarakis
      @GPsarakis 2 роки тому +3

      There's so many things this franchise never answers. They like to toss things out and let you wonder. Honestly I don't think we need to have everything answered.

    • @megatronjenkins2473
      @megatronjenkins2473 2 роки тому +1

      @@GPsarakis I still demand answers on those creepy subspace aliens!

    • @andrewmurray1550
      @andrewmurray1550 2 роки тому +3

      Illya, the original Borg Queen, and Decker the first "Locutus" ? ;-)😀😀

    • @rcknbob1
      @rcknbob1 2 роки тому +3

      Very good comment! I would like, however, to bring up that Ilia (who had been absorbed into V'Ger and returned to the Enterprise as a probe "to study the carbon units infesting Enterprise") and Decker were both merging with V'Ger, if I remember right. This would create a tripartite entity (dare I say a trinity) whose desires and motivations we could barely even guess at.

    • @mphylo2296
      @mphylo2296 6 місяців тому +3

      Pretentious? In what world is 2001 pretentious? It never affects any more importance to itself than any other science fiction film. In fact I would say that by today's standards, it's one of the least pretentious science fiction films ever made.

  • @Sykboogie
    @Sykboogie 2 роки тому +2

    Saw this in theaters literally last night with my wife and a buddy. The timing is amazing lol. Great movie with a great soundtrack.

  • @MaxFleye
    @MaxFleye 2 роки тому +3

    I've never found it dull, not even when I was a wee lad.

  • @justinjc79
    @justinjc79 2 роки тому +12

    This was a big time for space films, 2001, The Black Hole, Star Wars, even James Bond changed things up to get Moonraker in there due to the genre. Every studio wanted a piece. TMP may have been a rushed film with lots of pacing issues, however at least it helped revive Star Trek and bring it to the big screen. At least the higher ups saw enough potential to continue with the future(better) installments.

  • @BintyMcFrazzles
    @BintyMcFrazzles 2 роки тому +7

    Love these Ups and Downs. Would love to see these with some of the "best" episodes of the Star Trek franchise.

  • @bioshock6935
    @bioshock6935 2 роки тому +2

    I want the 4k steel book of this remastered version. For me this is how star trek should be why this is my favourite trek film its not boring or dull. I find it's one of those films to sit back and finally now enjoy the visuals and story and what makes it even more of a must see is just listening to the music score as the journey takes place.

  • @kineuhansen8629
    @kineuhansen8629 2 роки тому +12

    the scene where enterprise leave the dock its what made my love for this enterprise also i really hope they make all other movies in 4k remaster and perhaps the series would love to see ds9 in 4k

  • @shaneanthonymessina2981
    @shaneanthonymessina2981 2 роки тому +11

    If it hasn't already been mentioned, what about the moment you actually get to see the Enterprise turn around to face the front of the V'ger vessel after the flyover? It might be a such a small detail, but I flipped out when it was finally shown. That one small issue used to drive me CRAZY because I refused to believe the view screen was simply at a reverse angle.

    • @moviefan7854
      @moviefan7854 2 роки тому +1

      If I remember correctly, Sulu does day viewer ahead, then the balls come up, then the cloud. They clear the cloud, and do a 180. there was no order to make a turn. They're looking where they just left, but we're shown the aperture- it still doesn't make any sense to me. In the DVD Director's cut we believe there's more to V'ger, and they just keep going.

    • @Revan2908
      @Revan2908 2 роки тому +2

      I liked that because it also showed that the aperture they got pulled into was located on the front of the ship. It always confused me because the section where the big white "fountain" of light comes up is nearer to the _back_ of the ship.

  • @paullatimer9249
    @paullatimer9249 2 роки тому +1

    More retro Ups & Downs? Yes, please!
    Which ones? All of 'em!

  • @willalexander5174
    @willalexander5174 2 роки тому +3

    The biggest treat for the senses in the Trek film cannon. I watch TMP more than anyone should and this 2022 Director’s Edition does feel finished. That’s gonna be the document for posterity.
    I very much enjoyed this and hope to see more Retro Ups and Downs.
    🖖

  • @grantman64
    @grantman64 2 роки тому +2

    I've watched ST:TMP many times over the decades, in its various versions, and when the director's cut landed on DVD, I thought "there, they've fixed it". The new 4K version goes way beyond fixing things to making the best version of the film possible. Beyond the obvious and welcome clean-up of the soundtrack and the improvements in the visual effects, there are many subtle ambiance improvements that make the Enterprise feel truly alive, as a ship with ~500 crew members should be. By far, most movies get released, and whatever flaws they have remain untouched from then on. As Trek fans, we are incredibly lucky that the powers that be recognize the legacy of ST:TMP and made the investment to fully realize the film after all this time.

  • @pkmnmaestro5231
    @pkmnmaestro5231 2 роки тому +2

    I was in the theater watching this movie on Sunday and I literally thought, "It'd be awesome if TrekCulture would do an Ups and Downs of this and other old movies and episodes." And here it is. Awesome.

  • @sarahscott5305
    @sarahscott5305 2 роки тому +7

    Votes please for Ups and Downs of the unofficial DS9 movie - The Way Of The Warrior.

  • @patrickmusson4571
    @patrickmusson4571 2 роки тому +2

    One word can describe Star Trek: The Motion Picture, CEREBRAL.

  • @Cyberbeagle1000
    @Cyberbeagle1000 2 роки тому +1

    Big thanks Sean for the call out to the Giants Causeway in my Norn Iron! Knew I couldn't have been the only one to think that!!

  • @daneyoshida
    @daneyoshida 2 роки тому +3

    Whenever I watch it I always remind myself this was first time fans had seen this crew in live action in ten years and also first time on the big screen. This was for those fans. Harder to grasp for us that have so much now to choose from, but I remember that feeling after Enterprise where we had no trek except for fan productions until 2009. That was a long four years.

  • @daler817
    @daler817 2 роки тому +4

    I love this update! Yes Sean, the score is amazing! Added visuals are amazing!
    My down would be....
    Why didn't they clean up the mat lines in the Klingon scenes! Missed opportunity to update that entire scene to get it away from the clunky, perfectly aligned, black edged sequence. (IMHO)

  • @kenwheeler3637
    @kenwheeler3637 2 роки тому +2

    First of all, yes, please do more retro Ups & Downs from all of the series and movies.
    I'm looking forward to seeing this new version. Sadly I don't have neither a 4k TV nor player but I do have a fellow Trekkie friend that does. 😁I originally seen ST:TMP in the theater in December of 1979 and thoroughly enjoyed it. The soundtrack is a masterpiece and it was so great seeing the crew again years after TOS and TAS ended.

  • @layton3503
    @layton3503 2 роки тому

    I was lucky enough to see this on a Big Screen, thank you Fantom Productions for making that a reality. It was me and my two Kids and a friend in the theater. A true private screening. Fantastic!!!

  • @joermnyc
    @joermnyc 2 роки тому +3

    This edition/remaster would be great to see on the BIG screen in a cinema with a high resolution projector and surround sound.
    Retro Up/Down of some DS9 would be awesome (serious episodes like “Waltz” or funny ones like “Little Green Men”)

    • @Swashbuckler332
      @Swashbuckler332 2 роки тому +1

      It was shown theatrically on Monday and Wednesday as a Fathom Event.

  • @metalgearman242
    @metalgearman242 2 роки тому +1

    I've tried watching this movie 3 times before seeing it this week in a movie theatre. On a small tv or iPad... I fall asleep... but as a theatrical experience... it's my new favorite Star Trek movie!
    They played a trailer before advertising a September run for Wrath of Kahn. That time window for a Retro Ups and Downs would be nice

  • @77NARF
    @77NARF 2 роки тому +1

    I saw it on the big screen Sunday afternoon (May 22nd) in Dallas, TX. It is one of my most favorite ST movies! The music, in the overture and beyond, literally brought tears to my eyes! This movie explores the great beyond of the galaxy as well as facing the existential questions of “Is this all that I am; is there nothing more?” This movie addresses the heart of the mission of the Enterprise: to seek new life forms and new civilizations, and to boldly go where no one has gone before!

  • @mrlauranndohner5100
    @mrlauranndohner5100 2 роки тому +1

    I watched this film as a 10 year old the weekend it opened and I loved it. I can't wait to watch it again.

  • @darinfoat8410
    @darinfoat8410 2 роки тому +3

    I know the bland, grey uniforms from TMP get a lot of hate. But I actually really like Kirk's dress uniform that he wears during the initial tour of the Enterprise. That one looks pretty sharp.

  • @leslauner5062
    @leslauner5062 2 роки тому +1

    I saw this in the theater on Sunday...and WOW! was it phenomenal! The size of it all, accompanied by the theater sound, which shook the seats, and that gorgeous soundtrack by Jerry Goldsmith was amazing. I loved every improvement they made to the effects and editing. I now have to get a 4K BluRay player to get this version of the film!

  • @faustbos
    @faustbos 2 роки тому +2

    Can't wait to see it. I think the one credit you and so many others miss with this film, is that it, successfully, took a 4:3 tv show that we all loved, and by golly did it bring it to the big screen in an unbelievably gorgeous aspect ratio . Even in its original configuration, unfinished, it was grand, it was massive, it was awe-inspiring. Fast forward to 2022, I'm just sort of sick of the car chase...... I want to sit down and have my senses wowed, at a speed my eyes can process. Half the films I see today, I basically just have to close my eyes, or other wise look away. I'm watching a computer came (mostly recently the latest batman film comes to mind). Everyone tells me, "well, you got to have an exciting chase where you catch the guy and get the information you need. Really? Do you? Never seen that before? Naw, this film stands apart from the rest of the trek films and for that reason, it is my favourite. (Not to say I don't enjoy every bit of trek in addition)
    Just wondering, what do you think the adjusted budget would be on Star Trek The Motion picture in total to get us to the 2022 4k release? Anyway, love your channel!

  • @robbello6207
    @robbello6207 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for reviewing this. It made me give it a proper re-watch, and I was impressed by the updated visuals.

  • @CoryAlbrecht
    @CoryAlbrecht 2 роки тому +1

    The Transporter accident scene gets me every time.
    And yes, I would love to see ups and downs for all the movies, just as in-depth as you do for all the episodes, including cetacean observations.

  • @grantcharlton53
    @grantcharlton53 2 роки тому +1

    Just saw it twice on the big screen last week. Just a beautiful mesmerizing film. I didn't want it to end.

  • @hammerman199374
    @hammerman199374 2 роки тому +8

    Here's the thing: I totally understand why pacing is important, especially in this day and age. But it's never been as big an issue with me and I feel like those who let it detract from their movie experience are missing out. It's significant that this film was one of the last to have the traditional Overture at the beginning as it really was one of the last films made with old-school philosophy. Just look at Director Robert Wise's filmography: West Side Story; Run Silent Run Deep; The Day the Earth Stood Still; The Sound of Music; The Sand Pebbles; The Andromeda Strain; The Hindenburg - these are all classics set in the classic pacing that defined movies from the beginning of the industry up until, well, Star Wars. Amongst the many other things George Lucas gave us, was a new way to watch movies - ones that came at us with a frenetic pace. Now we've gotten so used to movies at that faster pace that it's hard to go back to the older style. It's no wonder that Wise only made two more movies after Star Trek, and those were each ten years apart from each other (and not well known).
    I guess I have a different perspective because I grew up in the 80's watching old movies and TV shows on cable (and I had parents who took the time to explain obsolete references I didn't understand). Back then AMC was one of my favorite channels (when it was actually "American Movie Classics" and was run more like TMC is now). So despite my age (47) I feel I'm able to appreciate older films more than some of my contemporaries and certainly more than the younger generations. But I know I'm not alone, as the care and devotion taken to restore this film proves so beautifully, which gives me hope that appreciation of the classics won't completely disappear.

    • @dakotahrickard
      @dakotahrickard 2 роки тому +3

      Nowadays, I don't really like watching movies. I will, for the sake of my family or a dearly beloved franchise, but I generally just don't really like movies these days. The exposition is thrown at you like a pillow in a pillow fight, because honestly, it doesn't even matter if you catch it. You'll not have time to get to know the characters anyway, and really they're secondary to the action, to the tension, to the "drama" and spectacle.
      TV isn't much different, but at least I know something about the people I'm watching, because they have to fill hours of runtime with something.
      I'm thirty-four. I grew up with "pacing" in movies, and honestly Star Trek: The Motion Picture does somewhat drag at times, but that's only because the director, the writers, even the actors, want you to take time to appreciate what is going on in the world you're watching.
      Why do we take so long approaching VGER? Because it's massive. But the scenes change with the approach. The music and sound quality change. It's not static just because it's not fast.
      Honestly, I wish our entertainment producers would take walks sometimes, rather than speeding down express ways and flying in jets. Maybe then they'd know how to write something truly unique in this day and age, a compelling and thought-provoking film that doesn't have to rely on emotive manipulation to succeed, because it asks us to take time to bring ourselves to the table and participate in the experience of the film, even as silent as we are.

    • @jasoncreech4287
      @jasoncreech4287 2 роки тому +3

      Same age, I spent the summer between 7th and 8th grades watching a handful of movies on terrible VHS tapes and the broadcast television version of TMP was in the rotation. I guess the days of explicable and logical things happening to characters with rich inner lives who react with thoughtful reflection revealed through performance and dialogue is a bygone era. I felt like the glimpses of daily life in Starfleet and the care taken to express the scale of the Enterprise really added to the feeling of these being real people exploring the galaxy and thus the drama. I can certainly appreciate a good lightsaber battle but there’s nothing aspirational or inspiring about it once you realize it’s just a story beat to fill time between the trailers and generic repainted fiberglass macguffin #6.

    • @dakotahrickard
      @dakotahrickard 2 роки тому +2

      @@jasoncreech4287 The saddest thing is the we still buy into these new shows and movies. We still hope for better. So movie production companies keep selling us crap and we keep telling them it's ok.

    • @dakotahrickard
      @dakotahrickard 2 роки тому

      @Gareth Fairclough You know, that's fair. Honestly, I think the whole movie suffers "pacing issues" in the reviews because the VGER approach scene took so long, because they wanted to give a real sense of scale. If they had succeeded, nobody would have cared, particularly.
      I mean, Star Wars didn't *show* us that the Death Star was the size of a moon; they told us, but I have a feeling that there would have been a large minority of people who would have loved to see all the bits, bobs, and jiggery pokery of the battle station. But without the ability to show the structure at scale, telling was better exposition. I have a feeling that had TMP jumpcut or dissolved part of the approach, nobody would have complained about pacing, because all the other long runtime stuff worked and was impressive.
      In short, I bet it's not even the middle third of the movie that sucked pace-wise but mostly (or only) the VGER approach.
      That being said, they honestly would have done better to make an even longer movie that had time to do some real character development. I obviously feel bad for the doomed lovers, but I probably would have cared more if they'd, you know, had real screentime devoted to them. As it stood, we learned more about their relationship after Ilia was probified than before.
      Essentially, I think the character didn't really start charactering until after they died.
      Still and all, I prefer the pacing of Star Trek 1 to Star Trek 3. That one stops and goes like city traffic.

  • @christopherkinsinger7193
    @christopherkinsinger7193 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much, Sean!
    This is a great piece of work!

  • @stevend2666
    @stevend2666 2 роки тому +1

    This will always be my favorite Star Trek film. I always loved how it took it's time and I never had an issue with the run time. The soundtrack has always been one of my favorites. Saw it in the theatre last night and loved every minute!

  • @TheImperialCommunique
    @TheImperialCommunique 2 роки тому +2

    Saw this on the big screen last night!! It was a religious experience for me.

  • @midago7332
    @midago7332 2 роки тому +4

    G’day, I hadn’t watched this movie in years and really loved the new version of this. Brilliant and great work bringing this video out for us 🖖🏽

  • @jameso6845
    @jameso6845 2 роки тому +3

    Yes more please. All the 4k editions and any remastered content.

  • @TheNacon4
    @TheNacon4 2 роки тому

    This version added a world of sound and added button sounds. It is wonderful!

  • @1914fallen
    @1914fallen 2 роки тому

    I love this and would love for you all to continue doing retro ups and downs!!!

  • @ricardocantoral7672
    @ricardocantoral7672 2 роки тому

    I saw the 4k restoration last night and it was worth the ticket price. That is definitely a Trek that has to be seen on the big screen in order to really be appreciated.

  • @CantankerousDave
    @CantankerousDave 2 роки тому +1

    I saw it in the theater as a kid the first time around. Before cable TV and VCRs were widespread, we would walk uphill both ways to the nearby movie theater for $1 matinee showings on weekends. I saw a looooot of movies there, followed by losing quarters in the primitive arcade in the mall next door.

  • @paulannable3734
    @paulannable3734 2 роки тому +1

    I was 13 when this came out, a massive Star Trek fan… it’s hard to convey just how exciting it was to see these characters again - and I’m including the Starship Enterprise - after all those years of watching 60 s reruns. The actual dullness of the film hardly registered. I still love it.

  • @woody2653
    @woody2653 9 місяців тому

    Sean! You beautiful Creature! I've been looking forward to the new retro Ups & Downs... and for a moment I thought this was one of them. After a small moment of disappointment, I settled in for a watch and thoroughly enjoyed myself. I'll be here for them all! Hope you're feeling better Son! Keep up the good Trek!

  • @Manitsas
    @Manitsas Рік тому

    You are so right that this film deserves a BIG screen and exquisite sound system (speakers larger than your children, etc.). It so happened that earlier this month I tested out a new 1080P front projector on a 150" outdoor screen, and when I selected what to show, it was this Director's Cut. The terrible barely audible sound from that projector was a big "down," for me, but I fortunately have the aforementioned child-sized front speakers with a 7.1 system indoors and a 64" screen, so not all is lost. I had the famous Andrew Probert cut-away poster back in the early 80's, and built the Refit Enterprise AMT model in the late 80's.

  • @waitsjunkie
    @waitsjunkie 2 роки тому

    I'd love to see more of these Retro vids. I just watched this and went back to watch The Sub Rosa video and thoroughly enjoyed both!

  • @robinraianiemi4030
    @robinraianiemi4030 2 роки тому +1

    Even before all the restoration and remastering and re-everything-ing of this movie, it’s still my favorite Trek movie. And one of my favorite movies, period.
    I’m ecstatic to have this new, completed, version available.

  • @sgtmyers88
    @sgtmyers88 2 роки тому

    Had the pleasure of seeing this film in theaters for the first time tonight. First watched the TV version when I was 3 and loved it then and I still love this film now. Looks beautiful and sounds beautiful.

    • @sgtmyers88
      @sgtmyers88 2 роки тому

      And whats funny too is NASA is having issues with Voyager 1 around the same time this film was being re-released in theaters ...and so it begins?

  • @joshuaeverett9887
    @joshuaeverett9887 2 роки тому +2

    We don't say dull, we say "cerebral"... Seriously though, more retro U&Ds!

  • @tomasjoconnel5367
    @tomasjoconnel5367 2 роки тому

    Great review Sean. I haven't seen it yet, but from from you say and from what I've heard, I'm prepared to be blown away bigtime

  • @tubehellcat
    @tubehellcat 2 роки тому

    I love TMP for all the reasons many people don't - all those endless exterior shots of star ships flying around, leaving space dock and just doing space shippy things.... love it.
    Can't wait to get a chance to watch this 4k version.

  • @derekjones7957
    @derekjones7957 Рік тому

    I really loved your views on this, thank you for your passion.

  • @johnatsf1564
    @johnatsf1564 2 роки тому

    Just watched it, and OMG! ITS THE ONLY WAY TO SEE THIS BEUTIFUL WORK OF ART! Thank you!

  • @TimNutting
    @TimNutting 2 роки тому

    I am glad I watched it, quite enjoyable overall. You're absolutely right that you have to know what you're sitting down for. Beautiful.

  • @Jen-xh4ef
    @Jen-xh4ef 2 роки тому

    Please, please, PLEASE keep doing retro reviews. I've been dying to see ups and downs for a lot of DS9 and Enterprise eps.

  • @selysia
    @selysia 2 роки тому

    I loved the film from the first time I saw it in the theatre in 1979, and I still do. I love this version for a lot of the CGI and scene additions, and I will never tire of watching it for the rest of my life. I never held it not being action-packed against it. In fact, I love for example that they took all this time to re-introduce the Enterprise to that beautiful music.

  • @stevenjstubbs
    @stevenjstubbs 2 роки тому

    Saw it last night in a theater. Whole-heartedly support Sean's assessment of this film. 👏 ❤🤩

  • @jpwphoenix1701
    @jpwphoenix1701 2 роки тому +1

    I'm definitely looking forward to watching this 4K version when Paramount+ releases over here in the U.K. next month. I remember how much better the Director's Edition was in 2001 and it's about time it was remastered like this. I'm lucky enough to have a 4K TV and 5.1 home cinema sound system in my bedroom, so totally get what you mean about how much of a difference it makes to have a good enough sound system. I totally agree that the score is one of the highlights and one of the best of all the movies (although First Contact will always be my favourite!). Finally, I'd love to see more Retro Reviews and Ups & Downs of other movies and/or TV episodes.

  • @joshvaughter1088
    @joshvaughter1088 2 роки тому

    YES PLEASE! I've been wanting this for a while. Please do Every movie and episode.

  • @maurelius6463
    @maurelius6463 Рік тому

    Sean Ferrick is awesome and always so detail oriented. Keep up the great work.

  • @memeyers1962
    @memeyers1962 2 роки тому

    I saw this movie in high school. I asked a guy out that I had had a crush on for two years who was also a Star Trek fan, first time I ever did that. I had a great time on the date, and thoroughly enjoyed the movie. Even though we only had the first date, I cannot think of this movie without fond memories of my crush. We continued to be friends and continued our Star Trek talks every day.

  • @fortheloveofzuckuss1724
    @fortheloveofzuckuss1724 2 роки тому

    6 year old me saw this originally at the cinema, this film has really grown on me more and more in recent years, will definitely have to check out this version

  • @seanc9401
    @seanc9401 2 роки тому

    I want you guys to do more of these for sure!

  • @AustinHolland
    @AustinHolland 2 роки тому +2

    I still have to watch this version, for its time it was amazing in terms of visuals and the music but my favorite for for music and the story is Star Trek First Contact. Watching and listening to that on a home theater setup is amazing.

  • @0xTJ
    @0xTJ 2 роки тому

    I never knew this is something I wanted, but I'm happy it's here!