20 Things You Didn't Know About Star Trek: The Motion Picture (1979) Part 1
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2024
- Deleted scenes, unused scripts, studio politics, and more tidbits about the first Star Trek movie.
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😂 Oh man! How’d you get that footage of Captain Foley!?!?
I saw that too and did a double take, Lmao.
@@geoffharris724 where ?
1:10 - 1:18 in the video
It wasn't the Captain... It was a Changeling!!!!!!!
from a Foley artist of course! Ba Dum Shhht!
I loved it! It's not dull, it's cerebral. It's both big and small, and it lets you ease into each moment. Whether it's a massive energy cloud, a rock in the ship's path, or the subtleties of various relationships, you get to immerse yourself in it all and connect with how one may experience the moment. It's contemplative and full of wonder.
0:41 Little did she know that she'd look absolutely amazing without her hair...and that's really an understatement. Gone way too soon.
Men: Bald women are NOT hot!
Persis Khambatta: Hold my hair.
Until I watched it this year for the third time, I never paid attention to the fact that she was from India. Hehe. (I was born there)
Well, ONLY PERFECTLY GOOD-LOOKING people are able to look good BALD. MOST people do look better with hair.
@@ianfindly3257 picard looks better when he's bold tho hahaha
I've always thought the original movie (considering the level of technology when it was made) is lush and epic. I still enjoy watching it.
It came out 3 years after Star Wars and looks as though it came out 10 years before. So, I disagree.
I like it best, too.
@@countluke2334 Well, I find Star Wars rubbish, so I disagree with you. :)
I’d say TMP ranks up there as a better version of Black Hole.
@@russellharrell2747 I love that! Gonna have to use that one sometime.
I was 8 when this debuted in the theaters. Naturally I was blown away by the story and, later when it was on TV, when I was 12, I really appreciated Ilia.
'Where Nomad Has Gone Before!' Ha Ha! Very Clever! I remember thinking at the time 'This is 'The Changeling' with a bigger budget!'!
I actually read a book that was really more a compilation of quotes and notes about the production of TMP that indicated at one point it was *recognized* that TMP was a rehash of "The Changeling," but by that point in the production, they really didn't care anymore. Sadder still is that "Changeling" was a much better realized treatment of the concept than the "disappear into nothingness" resolution offered up by TMP.
@@DIYDaveOK my understanding was vger went to another dimension.
@@paulheap1982 Yes, it did, but for the average viewer who didn't get that abstraction, it made the movie's finish decidedly unsatisfying.
@@DIYDaveOK you mean the average brain dead dumb ass that never picks up a book ?
i found the movie's end just fine but i can see how general audiences wouldn't and the sad truth is; its because the shit went over their head. Star trek got the green light because 2001 and star wars were huge money draws, but when they sat down to write the script they went too cerebral with the material. and while 2001 was also a thinking "man's" movie. it was heavily toned down from the novel because they knew to get ass'es of the masses in the seats they needed something that didn't liquify an idiot's brain. Cerebral movies like 1984, and ST:TMP are often amazing materpieces , but at the same time they tend to put large crowds to sleep due to a lack of action (cept those 1984 love scenes .. damn lotta action in those :P ).
jokes aside , the bottom line is that Roddenberry and crew , shot out the gate with a level 10 brain buster of a movie (by most people's standards) it's why the much less thought provoking ST II:TWoK beat it out in popularity and sales.
Much like how TWoK is a cross between Space Seed and Balance of Terror. :P
Fun fact: I was named after Ilia, thanks to my mum being a huge Trekkie
I met a woman named Jadzia once and asked if her parents were Trek fans, she sighed heavily and begrudgingly confirmed that they were
That is so cool.
That is awesome!!
I named my daughter Serenity. She loves her name!
It’s a beautiful name...
I watched for the 3rd time earlier this year with my 7 year old son. At 39 years old myself, I finally liked it. It was a pretty decent movie, even if a bit ...oldish in style vs the later movies. It has its great moments like the opening Klingon attack, which my 7 year old drew on paper, days after haha
I could never understand the dislike of the first movie... it is the most "Star Trek" of the TOS film releases. No, it might not be like the other big summer action film hits, but it nor Star Trek ever was meant to be.
Agreed!
Well, I'm particularly surprised to hear an "assessment" like THAT from Harlan Elison. I mean, sure, I can understand such a review from your typical modern-day American moviegoer who's accustomed to more action-oriented type movies saying THAT about this movie and some professional critics too, .. . but ELLISON? . . an AUTHOR whose own work isn't exactly known for its racing "high-octane" action!
I think it was the most watchable of all of the films, and with the most intelligent story. The costumes were very good too. They only got worse in later films
Not "summer", Christmas film.
"Booring"? .. . depends WHAT you consider EXCITING in the first place. Now personally I happen to find ohhhh guns, stunts, car chases, crashes, and explosions pretty dull myself, so I don't miss THAT shit one bit when watching THIS film.
I'm not a Trekkie by any means but I've always enjoyed the series and the movies. But there is something about the first motion picture that makes it my favorite(with Wrath of Khan a very close second), I've just never been able to put my finger on it. "Flawed masterpiece" is a PERFECT description of this movie. I absolutely love it.
What defines a "Trekkie" if not one who has an appreciation for Star Trek episodes and movies?
Motion Picture is actually one of my favourite Trek movies.
I’m not a Trekkie, but I liked this film. The existential angle was intriguing.
Also the Vulcan science officer Kirk wanted on the Enterprise, who got caught in the transporter accident, was basically a stand-in for “Xon” from Phase II. (Of course having the original actor for Xon being digitized by V’Ger basically was a way of killing “Xon” off twice.)
As a Trek fan from the days when TOS wasn't called TOS, and have followed virtually all Trek productions in the intervening 40 years, I have to say that this is a pretty fair treatment of the troubled history behind TMP. One tidbit (that, in fairness, might be addressed in Part II) not mentioned is that there was some discussion that new Trek adventures would be released as periodic "special feature" television events rather than a conventional weekly TV series or movie. Michael Eisner floated this concept at one point, I think.
Also, the idea to change or rebuild the sets for the transition from Phase II to TMP was largely Robert Wise's decision. When he was brought in to helm the movie, he came into the sets - all built for a TV caliber production - the story is he said they'd all have to be scrapped because they weren't suitable for movie filming. The cost for the original sets, which was part of the Phase II production budget, was rolled into TMP's production cost - which hit close to $50 million; an astronomical figure for a 1970s film.
One other tidbit: While I'm sure its entirely coincidental, the production values and set design in TMP bear a striking resemblance to another Robert Wise sci-fi adventure: "The Andromeda Strain." The latter movie is a sci-fi tale written by Michael Crichton (sp) about a supposedly top-secret germ warfare lab called "Wildfire" deep in the Nevada desert. But the interiors of "Wildfire" bore a *striking* resemblance to the interiors of the Enterprise; circular decks, flashing corridor lights, sliding doors, lots of blinky things in the walls, even the same somewhat somnambulent direction where people are caught staring into the camera in amazement at, well, *something*. Compare the two and you'll be struck by the similarities. I know I was.
I look at all these retrospectives and always end up wondering..."What might have been..." What if "Wrath of Khan" had been the *first* movie produced? It would have been an even bigger blockbuster than it was, and the Trek movie franchise might have moved in an entirely different direction.
Well, I'm surprised to hear an "assessment" like THAT from Harlan Elison. I mean, sure, I can understand such a review from your typical modern-day American moviegoer who's accustomed to more action-oriented type movies saying THAT about this movie and some professional critics too, .. . but ELLISON? . . an AUTHOR whose own work isn't exactly known for its racing "high-octane" action!
Harlan Ellison is know for his critiques. His harshest was the Canadian produced variant of his book "Phoenix without ashes" called The Starlost. He was so angry and disgusted with what he saw he resorted to using his pseudo name of Cordwainer Bird to prevent from being associated with it. He's harsh and IMHO he judged STTMP for its lack of cohesion, numerous mistakes and it's approach to transcendence.
I am enjoying this list! Sean Ferrick is doing a terrific job with this material! I have a sense of joy in the presentation of these insightful nuggets of information.
The original pilot was "The Cage." "The Menagerie" was the 11th & 12th episodes of the first season making it the only two parter of the original series. The events of "The Cage" were shown when Spock was put on trial for stealing the Enterprise and setting up the autopilot to take the Enterprise to Talos IV.
Apparently it was called the menagerie for a time, they often reuse names.
Damn, beat me to it!
Psoma_Brufd however, officially, it was called “The Cage”.
@@U-rok yes, but that was long after development, which he was talking about.
Psoma_Brufd interesting. Thanks for the info.
This movie is a masterpiece.
Sadly, few will agree. I love TMP (I could watch them fly around the refit Enterprise for an hour) and it is my wife's favorite TOS movie. I think folks miss out on the much more purely sci-fi nature of the story. Khan remains my favorite Trek movie (and Undiscovered Country is sooooo close, thanks Nick Meyer!), but those are much more action flicks set in space. TMP feels like a real mystery in space - and I don't think the pacing suffers personally. I mean, come on, 2001 is brilliant but it wasn't exactly moving a breakneck speed. And you know what? For those of us who love it, we love it :)
@@jtreedy116 I hear ya. I watched 2001 for the first time earlier this year and found it pretentious and dull as hell. Just my opinion. And I'm actually a Kubrick fan.
I enjoyed the hell out of this movie and I think people who find it "slow or boring" to be unimaginative and kinda low IQ.
The Director's cut is the best version of the film, which is great. Definitely and securely in my top 4 list of ALL Trek Films
Love the motion picture I feel it is very underrated compared to the others I thought It had a great story. When I was a kid and a teenager I felt it was so boring but watching it now as an adult I can really appreciate it
Interesting stuff. Never thought that James Doohan created the Klingon Language.
If you are interested in learning more about the evolution of this movie from a filmmaking/acting perspective, "Chekov's Enterprise" by Walter Koenig is a collection of his experiences from pre-production through production. It's a great book filled with a lot of detail.
"Booring"? .. . depends WHAT you consider EXCITING in the first place. Now personally I happen to find ohhhh guns, stunts, car chases, crashes, and explosions pretty dull myself, so I don't miss THAT shit one bit when watching THIS film.
Over time TMP has become my favorite Star Trek film. Sure, slow, but much sci-fi is as well. Great film primarily about relationships.
I feel like The Motion Picture was trying way too hard to be 2001: A Space Odyssey.
I kinda feel it was trying to prove itself against Star Wars. Either way, while not one of my favorite movies, it was great to see the Enterprise for the first time in refit form.
I can see some influence there but the tone and atmosphere was much different.
Well, THAT kind of SET IT APART in an era in which MOST OTHER sci-fi flicks were being Star Wars wanna-be's instead.
More like Roddenberry was trying too hard to be Kubrick.
I mean this in the nicest way possible, I genuinely love this movie, but I use this to sleep when I have insomnia. It’s just interesting enough to hold my attention so my brain stops racing with whatever was keeping me awake. At the same time it’s pacing, music, imagery, everything is just so beautiful and deliberate that it isn’t overly exciting & stimulating but instead deeply relaxing. In the end I usually drift off to a peaceful sleep somewhere around the big rec deck crew briefing scene.
Nearly every night!!! Presumed I was the only one lol
Ordizz - Dune and The Black Hole work good too for similar reasons.
That's also why this is the perfect movie to watch when you have a hangover
THANK YOU! While there were only two things in this video that I didn’t know, it was extremely refreshing to see the reference to the fact that early scripts and proposed series were all called “Star Trek II” and that the oft used “Phase II” (a tentative, short lived title for the series)and “Planet of the Titans” are fan based terms. True, there were several attempts to publish “The God Thing” as a novel, but the screen treatment for that was also called “Star Trek II”.
Great episode. There are indeed many little golden Nugget moments in Star Trek: The Motion Picture and it is worth revisiting if you have not seen it in years!
I'm truly sorry for anyone who thinks TMP is boring. I love it! This one and Khan are my favorite two!
I love _The Motion Picture_ and occasionally watch it whenever I want a good, classic sci-fi experience.
naaa to slow and not enough action
I could the say the same or worse about _2001: A Space Odyssey, Interstellar,_ or _Alien_ and yet those films are also good. Hell, 2 of those were outshined by their sequels like this one as well.
@@MichaelAarons1701 I could see that but its not the same Alien for example has action and is very good but The Motion Picture has no real action and just drags
I challenge that. _Alien_ has very little in the vein of “action”; it has suspense mostly. But the only real action comes when either Ash tries to kill Ripley or she’s desperately trying to get off the _Nostromo_ and later has the final scare of the Xenomorph having divined her plan and stowed away with her on the _Narcissus._ The whole film is essentially _Jaws_ in Space and _Jaws_ was more about the Human element dealing with a threatening creature so it’s more small encounters. Since you can’t see the shark for long stretches, it’s either implied presence or the occasional glimpse until the final moment when Hooper’s in the cage below, Quint is dead, and Brody (who’s been rather gutless seeing the size of the thing) has to take a stand. Most of the film is bureaucracy, the daily workings of a fishing boat, or male bonding. _The Motion Picture_ is a mystery so “real action” is murky unless you’re wanting to go _Predator_ where every so often the characters have to boisterously blast their guns here and there while trying to figure out the mystery of what’s stalking them. Everything else you said, pure opinion as *I* find _The Motion Picture_ “very good” and that it drags far less than some other things but it’s pace is not anything I’ve ever had any issue with.
@@MichaelAarons1701 I see your point but I still say ''The Motion Picture'' is too slow and needs more action and combat
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It’s been a long time since I learned anything new about Star Trek. Thanks. Well done Shaun. The Motion Picture was a good stand alone film. Unfortunately we fans thought of the Changeling episode which I think detracted from its success as far as lacking originality after a 10 year hiatus.
But the other stories worked on at the time are all great ideas. It makes sense why the movie is a little flat. Those are 4-5 movies crammed into TMP. No time to flesh anything out from all those stories including Spocks journey.
Trying to take the best elements from each of the story lines floating around. That’s why felt clunky to me and all makes sense. Thanks! It always irked me!
PS this could have been lengthened to a trilogy like Star Wars to develop all the side stories. Thank God it wasn’t! If I had gotten to third movie with a Changeling ending I would have been pissed lol!
It really was a wonderful cinematic film with cutting edge tech at the time. Thought the set w Vger at the end very TV Trek like. Maybe a homage or probably just cost decision.
Still enjoy watching it.
Good vid. Subscribed
It's also a TV script stretched to 2+ hours, hence the spaceship porn.
Capt Foley from Trek yards running away is just classic.
I love this movie.
The vast majority of people under 60 years old did not experience Star Trek: The Motion Picture in theaters at its release. It was an event. Like many movies at the time, it was completely intended to be watched on a giant screen in a silent, dark theater with no distractions. Nowadays, movies are made with the expectation they will be viewed on a small screen in a living room where you have full access to your phone and kitchen, etc. STTMP is most definitely a theater movie, and watching it outside of that environment will certainly result in a more boring, less entertaining experience.
"The Menagerie" wasn't the pilot. The pilot was titled "The Cage." Bits of that episode were chopped up and later incorporated into "The Menagerie."
The first title of the pilot was menagerie but they later changed it to the cage
Far and away my favorite Star Trek film. Much more cerebral than the action movies.
Sure it's slow, much like 2001.
And like 2001 a rare sci fi film that made a successful reach for the profound.
Um, the first pilot was not called "The Menagerie", it was called "The Cage".
Yep. The Managerie used footage from the pilot.
The title of the pilot originally was "The Cage," but during production, Roddenberry changed it to "The Menagerie." When the two part episode ended up with that title later, the pilot was reverted back to "The Cage."
People don’t realize that it was Trek going to the big screen that ensured the success of Trek spinoffs. The glimpses we get of a new Star Trek TV series really were bad. The movies forced Paramount to bring their A Game for all future TV Trek productions.
Yeah, and then they let a hack like Kurtzman produce utter garbage like Discovery and Picard. Utter garbage.
Another fun fact; I was pregnant with my daughter when I watched this movie again and the initial name I was going to give her changed to Ilia. I changed the spelling to help people recognise it when they saw it but, my daughter owes her name to this movie
The costumes from 'The Cage' has very similar attributes to the new ones for TMP.
Funny thing is that the cage had a better look that tos.
JJ Abrams also was a former TV director and I wouldn't consider him an A-List director. Spielberg is A-List.
Abrams did Ally McBeal now he's the ultimate geek director who has definitely killed Star Trek with his reboot and Star Wars with his sequel...
@@alexeimscruz2893 LMAO
Whether you like his work or not, he’s an A-list director now for sure, and pretty much already was when he was hired for the ‘09 Trek.
@@GregorBarclay I don't know he definitely had a lot of great TV under his belt at that point but the only film he had directed was Mission Impossible 3
I agree. He's definitely made a lot of popular movies, but not A-List by a long shot.
This movie is my favourite of all of them.
Ohhhh baby nooooo, the first Trek pilot is "The Cage"! The Menagerie is the two-parter of TOS where they reuse footage from The Cage.
When submitted to NBC, the name the episode was, indeed, "The Menagerie". They got away with the name change because the title never appeared on screen.
Captain Robert April Whaaaaaaaaa???? No way. You've just blown my mind
@@CaptRobertApril Huh I've only ever heard it referred to as "The Cage" and "The Menagerie" was a separate episode.
@@calaverx11 Memory alpha confirms. though it started production as "The Cage". so that episode went from cage to menagerie to the cage again.
Menage au Troi
first thing that came to mind
Man I had to pauze to laugh hard at the movie descriptions "the motionless picture, the motion sickness.." 😂😂😂
It's an AWESOME Movie.
You are too dull to recognize it.
My oath of promiscuity is on record, captain.
Oh my......
Obviously you’re talking about Mirror Universe Ilia! She’d look good even with a goatee! 😂😅
@@trainsurgeon Ilia with a goatee... I'm .. confused so hard, it's breaking my Kohlinar.
Vulcan Alpha 😅
@@trainsurgeon Only the goatee wasn't on her face...
Damn groupies are always bothering me! How’d you get that footage?
Hahahahahaha! You know you're loved. 😆
Kirk's middle name originally started with R ("Where No Man Has Gone Before"), but it was never revealed. It was changed to Tiberius later in the first season.
The Directors Edition DVD really is the BETTER movie overall in pasting and editing. And i say that as someone who grew up watching "Star Trep TMP" as a kid countless times and the Nostalgia should have blinded me completely. The only thing i don't like are the changed shots on Vulcan and the Federation headquarter scenes where Kirk arrives with his shuttle-bus. The Vulcan changes however make sense since now there's an actual Sun blinding Spock which is why he holds it up to cast a shade on his face. Something that didn't exist in the original move. BUT..... i still find the original planet view shot in the film so much nicer and moody with the 2 moons passing by at the sky. We never got another such an impressive landscape shot again in any other Star Trek film.
At 13:35, the video misses one of Roddenberry's recycled names. The name Dylan Hunt was used in both 1973's "Genesis II" and its re-imagined 2nd pilot "Planet Earth." The same name was used for the protagonist in the TV series Andromeda.
Good thing it wasn't Mike Hunt.
@@deadon4847 Indeed :-D
It also misses that Denise Crosby and Marina Sirtis swapped roles before "Encounter At Farpoint" was shot. Denise was originally cast as Ship's Counselor Deanna Troi, and Marina was originally cast as Chief of Security, Macha Hernandez. Once they got that straightened out, and it became obvious that Denise could in no way be Latina/Hispanic, the names were changed.
My favorite of the films.
This movie is a hidden gem. Also a possible alternate timeline the uniforms and stardates don't match and it has an overall darker and more somber tone. The soundtrack is the icing on the cake!!! The directors cut is my favorite version!!!
I don’t give a shit how bad critics say it was I love the movie and watch it often.
9:20 probably my biggest pet peeve of the entire franchise. 'We are in orbit of the capital world of the Federation but we're the only ship in range.' Ridiculous. Imagine a movie set at the White House and it gets attacked but there is only one secret service agent in range! Lol
I have always thought it might be fun to do a "Star Trek Sins" channel in an outrageous appropriation of Cinema Sins. You could sin every Trek cliche in every episode from every series. It would be epic :) You could sentence the worst offenders to Rura Penthe :)
@@DIYDaveOK Cross referencing contradictory information between series would be a huge undertaking...it's all yours...good luck!
You could also try to find the Nitpickers books from all the series (at least the series that were on) written in the 90's. They covered TOS and the films up to that point as well as almost all of TNG. They found a lot of "Sins". They also took submissions and I sent more in to them, by mail of course since the internet didn't exist then. One was all of times Data actually used contractions in TNG.
I also Nitpicked the Nitpicker. In one episode of TOS, there's a fight in engineering and the stuntman gets dirt or dust from the floor on his black pants. The writer of the book said something like "why would the Federation flagship have such a dirty floor?" to which I replied, "It was never established that the Enterprise in TOS was the flagship. That was the Enterprise D in TNG that was the flagship."
A good one is, Kirk grabs the Orion girl by the arms in Whom Gods Destroy, when they're in his bedroom on the bed. Then he let's go at some point and you can see the green paint on his hands. Also, characters enter or exit the turbolift and camera is above them. There is no separation in the floor between the floor outside the lift and the floor inside the lift.
Just fun stuff like that....
Not sure why you included the shot of the actress crying while getting her head shaved but good call.
At first I laughed, then I felt sorry for her. Guilty that I laughed and finally found a new respect for the sacrifice people make in order to make films like this happen.
Ran through more emotions than I did watching STTMP.
I believe that all the men being attracted to Ilia was not scripted, just a natural reaction to the lovely, lovely Persis Khambata.
David Pumpkins Jr. women too. 😉❤️
I never thought about The Motion Picture being the most cinematic.
I saw it in theaters at 13yo so I couldn't appreciate it then. I actually
didn't until he mentioned the cinematic quality and it make sense.
I like _all_ of the Star Trek films and have them all on dvds. ❤️🙂🖖
Man… Persis Khambatta crying as she gets her head shaved really makes me lose it :'( She was so sweet and such a trooper.
She died young too... makes it more tragic.
@@TheWrongHands18 Yeah :( way too young..... At least we had a chance to see her in the first season of McGyver in one episode.
@@KRAFTWERK2K6 Check out a good movie with her NIGHTHAWKS or a crap movie with her MEGAFORCE
@@TheWrongHands18 Will do. Thanks!
@@spockgirltrekkie7135 No, i Mean she was playing an afghan mother in an episode of Season one in "MacGyver".
My favourite Star Trek movie
I love TMP especially the Directors Cut but it’s more 2001 than the original series.
I so want the Director's Cut but with the alarm klaxons from the theatrical release.
JT Reedy It’s a small detail I totally agree with.
This pic came out as 15 plus years after the original end it . It was very anticipated. This is why it was popular.
10 years. The original series was cancelled in 1969, whereas the movie was released at the end of 1979.
Thus, I'm not sure how George Lucas could have been too busy with Star Wars to direct TMP, considering Star Wars was not only out before TMP went into production, but has been said to be almost directly responsible for Paramount switching course from reviving Star Trek as a TV series and going the route of a feature film instead.
I liked the motion picture.. to me it reminded me of many aspects of the tv series i/e relating to our current times .. probably many of those condemning it were just expecting a star wars type scenario..
TMP is an ongoing trivia treasure trove! 👍
Captain Foley is everywhere!
Also, in the 1995 Book, "The Art of Star Trek", the Design for the Enterprise became the USS Discovery, and the Klingons designs there become the Discovery Klingons.
These were the rejected designs....
Indeed and that's how they should have stayed.
Wait, Klingons were supposed to look like that back in the day? WHAT THE FUCK...
@@filthycasual8187 Rejected designs from the late 70's.....same heads, even the same armor.
@@TheCastellan So how the hell does one explain this then? How can there be three (four if you count the JJVerse) different physical types of Klingons?
14:22 That young Vulcan looks like Richard Hatch in spock ears.
I never liked this film, until I watched Kurtzman Trek. I now have a new found appreciation for how good his film was
Wow no wonder the motion picture seems so scattered plot wise. So many story lines being crammed into one movie.
And *that,* you see, is one of the things that makes it more like real life. A story can be like real life, can even be based on it, but to fit it into the time available, you have to thin it down, you can't tell the *whole* story. Example: anyone who has read The Color Purple, and seen the film, knows how even a movie version of a written story leaves a lot out. But it's still worth the candle.
@@stevejordan7275 it's not that they left anything out but cramming so many different story concepts into one movie can ruin it. After seeing the video and then finding these other storylines that I knew had been pitched for phase two and other Star Trek movies hurt the final product. I'm amazed that makes any sense at all.
I love it when a channel thinks it can out-nerd a star trek nerd.
Yes, yes I did know about these things.
Yes, I am a dork for knowing them. Move along, now, nothing to see here....
I like Star Trek The Motion Picture.
09:12 I've got my Eaglemoss Regula One right by my desk watching this. I just took it off its stand and flipped it upside down... It's the same model!!
I loved this movie. It was and is a great movie.
This movie is actually one of my more favorite ST movies. I like the slower pace. I actually use is as my cant sleep throw it on and I'm passed out and get good sleep.
Ah dang. I need that Yeoman Janice poster.
Especially the lower half
2:00 The first Star Trek pilot was The Cage
So... You're telling me 'The Hindenburg' was a disaster? ;P But I liked 'Audrey Rose;, thank you very much.
I seem to remember seeing a version on TV.... I think maybe the network premiere... where they added back a bunch of stuff. One scene was Kirk outside the ship in an EVA suit, but they didn't notice that the scene was never finished. Instead of space and the hull, we see the soundstage.
The only film where the selling point was "Director's Cut: Now 12 minutes shorter".
Why's everyone gotta make themselves captain? Why doesn't anyone go for admiral? Or commander? Or even those cool field commission badges they used in Voyager?
Whatever happened to Commodore?
Kirk was cooler than an admiral
@@franklyanogre00000 Well, at least in the US, the rank of commodore is only really used during wartime. Promotion for naval captains goes direct to rear admiral (lower half). Commodore is basically a senior captain in charge of a task force promoted to commodore for the duration of the assignment to ensure clarity of command responsibilities.
You heard of Lt. Colonel... well...this is a Corporal Captain. M.A.S.H. Trying to get Radar into the Officers club.
Well, I actually LIKED the film. So there! xx
i used to be a big Star Trek fan but i've never seen this movie all the way through. I invariably fall asleep. I also fell asleep in the theater watching Star Trek: Nemesis and never bothered to buy the DVD or BluRay.
Whatever you think of it, this movie did well commercially and paved the way for the continuation of the franchise.
In the Secound pilot " where no man has gone before", 1965., .Kirk's middle initial is " R". Later it was changed to " T" for Tiberius .( Second ).So, Kirk's tomb stone read. James. R. Kirk., keep in mind this was a pilot episode that was only to be shown to NBC big wigs. ( Later on it was included with the regular series because there was no episode ready for the following week. So pilot # 2 was shown in its place. confused the viewers because the uniforms were different, and the female crew members wore pants.)
I like TMP for the most part, but I'm not blind to its flaws. The only really long effects shot I will defend to the end is the long, slow reveal of the Enterprise as Kirk and Scotty are moving along it in a shuttle. It's where Kirk really falls in love again with the ship, and it really does help to explain some of his dumber pissing contest moments with Decker later.
Another good one
Never had a movie promised so much in it's opening scene and later delivered so little.
If you love Star Trek and had the timing and good fortune to see it in it's initial release you caught a once in a lifetime experience.
honestly and I'm sure I'm not the only one that has thought but isn't vger *voyager* technically called the beginnings of the borg? Before Star Trek brought the borg to life in TNG show?
It's quite possibly my favourite movie. It doesn't always need to be pew pew pew.
Wow, I had never seen some of those behind the scenes shots before and seeing Persis Khambatta looking like she was choking up when they're shaving her head kinda hurt.
I ABSOLUTELY love this film. I saw this in theatres in 1979 and was blown away! I will love it until the day I die. This movie is NOT science- action or snippets of humor mixed in like the Abrahms/Kurtzman garbage. It's PURE science-fiction. A lot of people complain about it's pacing. Whatever. There's a lot cinematic scenes to drink in along with the mystery of encountering a incomprehensible force from beyond that challenges the mind. It's not for everybody. For those that don't like it; oh well. They can watch flotsam and jetsam cartoons like Lower Decks while they eat a bowl of fruity pebbles holding the spoon improperly while sitting one foot away from the TV screen. Enjoy! By the way; thank you for posting. You have a new subscriber. 🤣
Your sneering at Lower Decks is made more pathetic how you actually think this film was engaging or fun. This is Gatekeeping writ large, and very laughably justified.
This film is so much better than lower decks.
TMP is my favorite Trek movie. 👍
I always referred to it as, ‘Star Trek’s 2001’.
I wonder if Doohan used Gaelic/Gaeilge as a model . . . . Kind of makes sense, given that Scott and O'Brian are the only Federation personal who often drink and fight with Klingons . . . .
The pilot was titled The Cage.......
10:44 he _claims_ he can do any accent lmao
I legitimately like this movie.
I'm approaching 50yo, so I grew up on the occasional watch of the original series on reruns, and some animated series, then got properly hooked on all things Trek since 1987 and the arrival of TNG. From there it had pretty much been everything Trek except for later series of Discovery. Picard series was perfection. What I found quite offensive about Lower Decks is how they've turned the entire TNG aesthetic into a teen-appealing bouncy hyperactive American-youngster thing, not fit for appearance on any channel other than Nickelodeon - I can't fathom how anybody who loved TNG back in the 80s & 90s would EVER be able to appreciate it, and yet they've used all the TNG designs and uniforms, etc. Just baffling.