Sigewinne vs Kokomi !! Who is Best F2P Healer ??[ Genshin Impact ]
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- Опубліковано 24 чер 2024
- Sigewinne vs Kokomi !! Who is Best F2P Healer ??[ Genshin Impact ]
In this video, I'm going to be comparing and contrasting the two HEALERS in genshin impact F2P kokomi and the f2p baizhu .
I talk about genshin theorycrafting and powerful dmg showcases
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Everyone else is asking "who is the better healer?" I'm asking "how can you have Zhongli, Barbara, and Kokomi, yet still lose half the team?"
Answer: Bennett ulti in Apep battle
@@ruisuedou don't forget the hydro culpa and the purple dendro thingy from fontaine
They lost hp from fall dmg (intentionally)
@@ruisuedouI've won 1v1 against apep with Bennett when the coop team was annihilated except me. Apep still had like more than 20% hp in the last phase 😎
@@noonespecial32 Lmao you defeated him and your whole team hahaha
Compare this compare that, I got them both just simply because they're cute .
The better unit is going to really depend on the team and situation. Bottom half of the current floor 12 I managed to clear with Yelan, Kokomi, Furina and Kazuha. When I swapped out Kokomi for Seigwinne I had a much faster clear as Seigwinnes buff, along side her healing, provides more damage than Kokomi as a healer and team driver with negligible personal damage. However Seigwinne id not a replacement for Koko in my Ganyu freeze team as that team cannot utilize Seigwinnes buff and the hydro application will not be enough. Basically choose the unit that fits your teams best, they aren't replacements for each other.
Kokonut literally sacrificed 100% crit rate for this. She'd better win this, cause we aint taking a L for this.
take the d
Didn’t pick up droplets. Not utilising her kit properly lmao. Also 900 health total difference in healing after doing skill and burst with kokomi compared to sigewinne single skill use.
The Best Healer is Sigewine and Baizhu.
Reason : DIDN'T NEED A FVCKING ENERGY RECHARGE TO HEALED A WHOLE FVCKING TEAM.
True. Baizhu still provides the most in team comps though compared to siegwinne who's only bringing healing.
Kokomi: hehe, jellyfish do +8k, +8k, +8k, +8k ...
Sigewinne is worse than qiqi in terms of healing regardless of energy recharge. Kokomi is just a better more versatile option because of the teams she fits in and her hydro application. Her being an on field healer doesn’t change much because of the teams. She does better than sigewinne with little investment especially for f2p players.
@@wthrf_l, + can use TTDS.
@@wthrf_l honestly sige doesn't want so many energy like Qiqi. Qiqi has a cos for this tho but Sige doesn't so as long as you pair her with a battery you have the burst always ready. Mine has 146 and I have always the burst ready.
Ur supposed to pick up her water droplets- she wouldve beat kokomi then
No she wouldnt because Kokomi healed way over 50k but her health capped (hence why it says 50000+), and thats without even playing her on a proper rotation (using burst midway to double jellyfish time) or using Proto Amber (which Sige doesnt has access to)
@alexiperiyot Sorry but I'm not wrong, you guys just can't math. Let me explain to you. 30% healing bonus + 15% more HP from a bow going from level 50 to level 90 + 15% healing from a set 2 piece effect would barely increase her healing values by 25% since he was already using a Healing circlet. If you get Sigewinne's 49k heal and add up 25%-30%, it wouldn't be able to beat Kokomi's over 87k healing on the video (50k for self + 22k for Zhongli, plus you can see how 2 jellyfish ticks were wasted as she was at max HP halfway through), and that's not even considering he could have given Kokomi Proto Amber for even more healing, and he could have used the jellyfish swap midway through rotation which would increase jellyfish healing from 56k to 88k.
I've already checked this out myself, Kokomi heals over twice more than Sigewinne on a proper rotation and with P Amber. Thrice more if you consider Sigewinne wants to use triple HP and not healing bonus.
@alexiperiyot Dude, look at the video. Kokomi outhealed Sigewinne EVEN in terms of AoE healing. And I ALREADY factored in the maths above her 30% passive from her bubbles which was not used. 45% more healing bonus does NOT mean 45% higher healing values becuase they already had healing bonus factored in from the circlet. Like I said, you can't do math, you don't know how relative vs absolute values work. You should NOT be speaking on stuff like this because you're clueless on how to do the calcs.
Kokomi healed Zhongli for 22k. Sige healed Lyney for 15k. That's still over a 30% gap. Your SIge heals 6k ticks? Nice. My Kokomi heals 1.5k per normal attack for the entire team, 20 times per rotation, plus 30% of the team's HP from Proto Amber for an extra ~12k HP. That's 42k for my Kokomi (C0 btw) vs 30k for your Sigewinne, WITHOUT even factoring in the jellyfish, that's purely AoE healing from burst and P Amber. The comparison IS fair, they aren't using Kokomi on Proto Amber, neither keeping 100% uptime on her skill, and the actual amount she healed on the video was twice how much he wrote (103k which was the actual value vs +50k he wrote). SIgewinne would need to have DOUBLED her healing to be able to surpass Kokomi, not having 30% more healing, or even 45%. If you think Sigewinne has better healing, dude I'm sorry but you're far too stubborn to see the light.
@alexiperiyot It's not a 30% gap, it's a 106% gap. Reading comprehension found dead in a ditch it seems. You cannot reach Kokomi healing numbers with SIgewinne, no matter the build. Period. This is not a subjective thing. This is objective, based on math. No matter the builds. If you use the same build at same talents and everything else, Kokomi will be ahead by over 100%. Her multipliers are simply that higher. Also, for her Sig weapon, same thing I mentioned above, relative vs absolute values, it's not gonna increase her HP by 66% of what's in the video, that 66% HP is not even a 10k increase which means it's not even a 20% healing increase. Even with Sige on signature, Kokomi is still far ahead, and although not by over 100% anymore, it's still by a lot.
@alexiperiyot Sigewinne on the video: 49k. Kokomi on the video: 50k from her own HP + 22k for Zhongli + 24k from 3 overflowing Jelly ticks + some overflowing NA ticks for a total of 100kish healing, over twice more than Sige, 106% was an estimated guess.
And yeah I know your Sige heals 6k per tick. That's 30k in 5 ticks. My Kokomi heals 1.5k per Normal Attack, which means that over a burst, she heals 30k as well from 20 NAs. So my Kokomi already heals as much as your Sige without even adding Jellyfish or Proto Amber healing. Just from burst. So how can you say Sige heals more. And you literally just admited yourself her signature is not even a 20% healing increase when you said it's a 15%-17%, why are we even on this point.
Sigewinne for me, she have highest healing capability and elemental skill buffing. She can procs Furina Fan fare stack so easy.
Kokomi is the better f2p healer because she can make use of ToM, TTDS, and has good hydro apply so she can work with Bloom teams too.
Sigewinne is the worse one for f2p healing. Her strength is having the best teamwide healing, but her weakness is that she falls behind Sayu and Jean in most Furina comps due to VV overpowering her skill buff and same with many other supports like Bennett, Xianyun, etc.
If you’re not looking for who is better then obviously this comment doesn’t matter for when it comes to who you want to pull.
She's a good dps in furina's team
@@Cute_furina_5yearsKokomi right?
@@KingzMintz yeah
sigewinne doesnt require half as much as on field time as kokomi tho and her team wide off field skill buff exists which at c1 buffs upto 252% of the initial buff at c0
@@OmegaOne609 Their on field time are all pretty low though, and not many people are going to pull for C1 not to mention we are talking about f2p friendly here and at C0 her buffs are all outweighed by TTDS, Kokomis Hydro apply, and ToM. In Furina teams though she can be useful, but again VV overpowers her buff and in some other teams she is well overpowered by other supports.
You didn’t collect source water droplets for sigewinne it increases her healing
I'd say it's a good performance for Sigwine with lvl50 weapon and 2pc golden troupe that "increase elemental skill dmg by 20%" instead of 2pc healing bouns
Kokofish cannot be beaten❤❤❤❤
Already beaten by furina 😂
@@borulce_ Does anyone use furina as a healer? and if so, doen't that mean she beats every healer in the game?
@@borulce_not really
Furina's heal is worse than her but they can work together
@@borulce_Furina as a healer is worse than Sigewinne.
@@borulce_ ?? Furina is shit at healing
Sigewienne probably going to be OP with Natlan liek how Baizhu with Fountaine
Yup that's I'm thinking, zhongli good with inazuman, Koko with sumerian, Baizhu with fontainian (mostly bcs Furina), so if the trend continues it'll be sigewinne turn
@@m.ridzwan99-26 let see, who is better for natlan meta, sigewinne or emilie
@@m.ridzwan99-26 zhongli in inazuma when wolfs were added : mhm, noted
The problem is the lack of hydro application from siegwinne. For a hydro unit she's worse than off field barbara in that regard. Even Barbara's e can apply hydro while being around some enemies where as siegwinne's bubble doesn't do much of anything but heal
Right she almost near to good unit (if you have Neuvillette and Furina you know it)
You should've picked up the orbs
why are 2 of your team dead?
Could you please try Sigewinne with Clorinde (and best team when they go together)?
I would like to see how fast her healing can provide BOL for Clorinde so that Clorinde can dash more in her E mode.
Most clorinde teams won't use double hydro. Even quickbloom uses nahida, furina, baizhu because baizhu is the better unit that provides more for the team.
Electro charge is not good for clorinde so that's a bust.
Aggravate doesn't use hydro.
Cheveruse overload doesn't use hydro.
I already try it yeah very clunky to use Sigewinne gained a lot of healing nothing else she can't buff Clorinde in process
isn't the issue with sigewinne that it will be shared amongst the whole team? so less heals overall?
1.she has teamwide healing so in practice she is a much better gealer than kokomi
1.5. if you pick the water droplets she gets gealing bonus
2.that's just it, the only thing she is good at is healing , in anything els even c0 batabara might still be better
Bai Zhu laughs in the corner
why didn't you pick up her source water droplets, that makes her heal EVEN MORE. im highly confused,you didn't utilize her kit correctly
You didn’t pick up the bond of life…. That would’ve been more healing
Have both I can say that my sige without healing bonus can heal 30k at once while Koko every jellyfish. And my Sige has millelith and not koko set
sigewinne's healing only use skill and a teamwide heal she wins in my book
Why are two of your teammates dead? Sige requires waaaaay less on field time and can crit.. idk id say Sige is on par if not better, rotation wise for heals
Her ap is mid, can crit? Kokomi still hits hard without crit 😂
@@vampiszoonis9691 my dps can hit harder if it had mode uptime on field, which cocomi with her uncrit "hard" hits wont provide atp lol
@@Dravi0n yes also you don’t need full energy w Sige to do team wide heals
Nah, they are both situational, that's all. For exemple Sige ideal teams has to have Furina, or else her teamwide healing and skill buff would go to waste. Kokomi for elemental reactions, give just enough aplication by herself and heals nice the active character.
I'm talking about base kit tho, so maybe with the right weapon and artifacts set, they can fit better in other roles! 😊
Kokomi have 76 healing bonus and Sigwine have 36. The difference in number is great but in total healing not much😊
Sigewinne is sooo cute!!!! No matter what 😍
Coco batrly won with an artifact set that boost healing
If you would have taken the ball she would have healed more
Waiting for yelan, please come home mommy 😊❤
@@RiasGremoryisMyWife she just reruned in ver 4.0
So you need to wait more lol
this is related to the video how?
@@Cute_furina_5years rumors are saying she will come in 4.8 🤞
@@NevertahnProduction it's related to my mommy collection Lmao
she’s coming in 4.8 second half
Who is better healer overall
Kokomi, but choose who you want more if you don’t care about meta.
@@KingzMintz thanks actually i dont wish now saving for natlan good luck
@@varlsenjoyer thx, I’m getting Furina constellations
Bennett. You can deny this unless you use someone else more frequently in more team comps than our benny boy.
as for me:
1. Baizhu
2. kokomi for bloom
3. Yaoyao
4. barbara ( 4th because she's a pain against cryo enemies )
5. Sayu/ jean
Kokomi has infinite heal medusa because her ultimate gives to medusa an extra duration + her ultimate is healing when Kokomi attack somebody, but Sigewinne can deal a lot of hydro AOE damage using ultimate while Kokomi can't do it + healing.
Like Mortal Combat used to say in the old days -> "Choose your destiny".
I have both but I choose the melusine. Since Furina can abuse Sigewinne passive
@@yoiko89 ''abuse'' 10 instance of buff, bring kazuha and you got a better dmg buff lol
Baizhu
Baizhu clears
The fak am i supposed to do with 38k hp
Let yourself take dmg so then you can heal it back so you get to say she’s op heals (it isn’t)
Sigwinnes bow on her is only lvl 50
@@kielerblumeroblox325 lol
No need to heal too much in this game, in this game we need largest dmg to kill the boss, we dont have supper big boss yet or pvp so in some situation we play with no healer or shielder 😄😄😊
Natlan is more harsh than inazuma. I can't wait this people will ask character who can't make elemental application.
@@yoiko89 future is something misterious, no need to take steps first. Wait it to happen, and we have more choices to choose.
I need more primos for Winnie
out of context but furina powercreeps kokonut in every way
Not really. Furina doesn't provide anything but healing in healer mode. She can't even gain energy at all unless you are c4 and doesn't apply hydro. Kokomi has more utility in that regard
@@nobody-xh6ii shes an off field dps ans applies hydro off field too and can infinitely walk on water not to mention her healing is more consistent shes better in every way and sigewinne being completely a healing character barely does anything as her e skill is the only thing that heals and u have to charge it too
@@JetLightSpeedok so some points you made like walking on water are useless when proving who’s better. also furina has the slowest hydro appliance compared to yelan, xingqui, and kokomi. Also furina can’t gain energy when healing. And you have to build her full hp to get any good healing which takes away from her kit. Kokomi is meant to heal and Furina is only meant to. buff.
@@wthrf_l furina applies hydro while doing dmg OFF FIELD and btw about walking on water thata like the only thing that made kokomi special in daily normal game play plus furina is easy to play.
@@JetLightSpeed so you’re comparing two completely different things hich doesn’t make sense because furina isn’t only meant to heal. The walking in water thing also isn’t as important since other characters can ice bridge. But furina can’t gain energy when she heals so kokomi is still better when it comes to healing as well as the team comps she in. Furina being easy to play has nothing to do with how much she heals either.
Sigewines bow lvl 50
That's on purpose
To make both 50k hp
She heals whole team without burst tho
Koko is just better,she heals better and has way better hydro application
Sigwinne only heal herself like that
Nah team wide healing
kokomi 2p healing 2p hp but sigewinne 2p gt 2p hp and same heal sigewinne better healer 😉
she’s the worst healer next to barbra
@wthrf_l That’s literally not true. Sigewinne heals a lot and isn’t even that bad of a character, it’s just that there were so many meta characters in Fontaine to where a worse character is considered awful. She’s genuinely not that bad, she’s just not that good
@@anthonyhunter4889 people only use her because they either really like her character or use her buffs which isn’t bad but if people are comparing her to units like kokomi/baizhu are delusional
I mean..she's cutе
A fight great
Kokomi noodles win for me😂
0:23 Negative Crit rate seriously 🙄
Well yeah, that’s literally Kokomis whole schtick is that she can’t crit lol
In the beta she was the most destructive unit that literally overshadowed raiden at the time. So the devs made it so crit kokomi wasn't viable.
so you don’t have kokomi basically? ok.
ПАСХАЛКА!!!
Barbara is best healer 😂
😭🤍🤍🤍🤍
crit hydro healer, kokomi fell off😂
We don't use Kokomi like that we only need her jellyfish for on field character. 😑
furina
5 stars you can skip! I say! Next content..
F2P healer? Bruv they both are limited 5* versions of barb. 🤣
And they both are better than Barbara.
@@KingzMintzBut They Can't bring Back Dead to Life again like #God Barbara....😂
@@KingzMintz You mean worse. You paying a full 5* price for someone who can't Rez and has the same hydro application or for somebody who has no hydro application?
@@FrontCypress barbara is as useless as qiqi.very very small hydro aoe and if someone need to revive in genshin how fucking huge is their skill issue? game is not hard
Nah her cd are awful and you literally need to hug enemies if you want to apply something