ali sadpara who was leading the rescue team lost his life the same way these guys died 2 years later while trying to summit K2 in winter and a rescue team and pakistan army helicopters search for him for days until his body was found by his own son. i met him once and he was one of the nicest guy i have ever met always smiling and talking about mountains. rip
Really stupid idea to attempt the Mummery Spur. Even Messner remarked how foolish that particular route was due to the constant avalanches. Like, yeah they could have possibly summited via Mummery, but every hour you'd be wondering if this is the hour when the next inevitable avalanche will get me. The avalanche risk is super high and it's not a question of if you'll encounter an avalanche on Mummery, but rather when. Really silly of them to try a winter ascent of Mummery Spur.
You're right but Nardi was badly dominated by his anxiety of constant failures on the Nanga Parbat. I personally met him at Basecamp I heard him saying nanga is in him and he'd die for it😢
I think Nardi simply had became too obsessed with that specific route, and Ballard got sort of sucked into the obsession. I'm guessing that Nardi's reputation as a climber making notable ascends, only fuelled his obsession with this dangerous route.
These guys tried to summit "the Killer Mountain" in winter via a route that was prone to avalanches. Was anyone surprised when they went missing and was found to have died?
It’s the first time I’ve heard this awful news. So Alison’s son has died on an 8,000 metre peak as well?! This is hard to comprehend. If anyone was going to grow up ultra cautious when climbing these mountains I’d have thought it would be her son, knowing how they’d lost Alison on K2. I feel very sorry for the other two members of the family and all the extended family as well. It’s quite shocking to see history repeat itself.
I don't find this shocking and surprising at all. He was searching for her mothers soul and spirit from the mountains. And was as irresponsible as she was. He was out of his league. Pure su1c1de mission as was his mothers K2 attempt.
People unfortunately lose their loved ones in all aspects of life. Even though it would’ve been just as tough for them. As extreme mountain adventurers death is simply a calculated risk. The family left behind, have the comfort of knowing that they died doing the thing they loved enough to risk their lives doing it!
Actually it's pretty easy to comprehend. He followed his mother's example of taking risks and seemingly also shared her risk assesment skill. Same result.
Am I the only one who's impressed by someone who has no noticeable accent whatsoever, but pronounces regional names of things in a perfect dialect of its origin? 😮
Who heard about the 23 year old Marco Siffredi. Who snowboarded down Mount everest. He succeeded the first time. The second time he went on the harder route and never was seen again. Rip Marco siffredi
Nardi was so obsessed because he was excluded from the Nanga Parbat winter expedition by Simone Moro. I think Alex Txikon felt a bit guilty when Nardi and Ballard got lost, he even gave up on his K2 winter attempt to go and look for them. Sad story.
Yes but there's an history to that - one Txikon himself spoke of several times and was confirmed by all other team members of that expedition. While he confirmed feeling some degree of guilt over the 2016 events, he also stated that back then, Daniele Nardi was simply too focused on sharing on social media about their progresses in the climb instead of actually climbing. If you lose trust in a teammate in that environment, excluding that person is likely the best way to go for everyone's safety. I've watched many of Nardi's interviews (I grew up in the same town as he did) and always had the feeling he never really understood or acknowledged what went wrong back then. Terribly sad because he was a skilled mountaineer and left behind a wife and a newborn.
@@EricaBlondie86 So he leaves behind a wife and a newborn who will never know his Father. Very arrogant and selfish of him! Hope his wife collected on a fat life insurance policy!!!
@@iluvmoney6767, if his insurance didn’t cover extreme sports like this, they were screwed. And his 4yo child has been left to never know his/her father. Yeah, seems selfish.
@@ItsJustLisaand hopefully the young son doesn't follow in the footsteps of his predecessors. One thing the video does not make clear is could they have been rescued if the air restrictions were not there? How long did they survive for up there I wonder
Exactly. A disaster strikes people going about their lives normally, and kills them irregardless of how careful they may be. It also kills many people, not just a few. Taunting, or defying death is not a disaster when it goes south; It was a foolhardy mistake. Many of these mountain climbing incidents seem to arise from foolish choices by very very competent climbers, whose egos overrode what experience should have said was too dangerous to attempt at that particular time
@@parkerwebb3470 , Apparently, other climbers were there, and knew of their desire to make the summit on a very risky route, at a very risky time. Everyone seemed to have signed off on it.
The worst part is most of the people in these stories have small kids, but people who are this high level of climbers live it every day, they are never going to stop and it was probably part of the deal when they got with their partner
I followed this story from the beginning and somehow i knew the end after days of searching. Unfortunately this craziness never end,at the start they want to climb without oxygen,all the fourteen picks over 8000 meters, after they want to do in winter time and chose the difficult path, so much agony, so much pain for their families. It's like opioids for many people and not a hobby anymore. I feel deeply sad for their families 😢. Thank you, you support very well the story!!!
Do you think they survived for awhile and could have been rescued or were they toast from the beginning? Couldn't tell if the air restrictions had been lifted if they would have made it
I believe an avalanche killed them and there was no way they could have survived. They were both experienced climbers and their death was instantaneous, there was no chance of rescue in my opinion.
I find it ironic how so much efforts were made to rescue (or find the remains of) two people while thousands of lives are casually lost then forgotten/abandoned in a war. Frankly, none of this story sounded horrible. I'm not going to pretend I feel sorry for the two lost souls. The real horrible fact is the same amount of resourses could have been used to save countless lives in other countries. But apparently some thought they are better spent on two thrillseekers who knowingly put their own lives in danger. "All men are created equal. But some are more equal than others" - George Owell
Tom’s father Jim is filmed in the documentary “The last mountain” saying Tom would be horrified that a rescue was attempted. He says that if you can’t, as a professional climber, get yourself off a mountain by your own efforts, then you don’t deserve to come off.
Good story telling but Ballard's mother, Allison Hargreaves, was not the first woman to climb the 14 8000m peaks. She summitted Everest and K2 before losing her life on the descent from K2. The first woman to climb all 14 8000m peaks is Edurne Pasaban although that's being questioned as well these days with new information on the "true summits" of several 8000m peaks. - Cheers.
Don’t get me wrong I love action sports like skateboarding, snowboarding, mountain biking and all that but I cannot imagine going across the world to risk your life climbing a mountain for a view you could get out of the window of an airplane
People don't climb mountains for a view, it's the achievement of being able to summit such a hard mountain, the feeling of pushing yourself literally to the limits of life physically and mentally, over coming fears. It seems crazy when people pay with their life but until you get that feeling you would never comprehend. You don't have to summit an 8000m in dangerous conditions either, it's whatever is challenging to you personally.
I’m glad someone else understands this. My climbing and walking challenges were never about the view. I have a friend who used to be reluctant to come with me unless it was clear and sunny. “There’s no point - we’ll have no view” was what I frequently heard. Mountains and cloud go together so you wouldn’t do much climbing if you needed a sunny photo on the summit to feel any satisfaction. Some of my most enjoyable days out were on days where the fog was so thick it was a complete whiteout. I’d get real satisfaction from navigating with map and compass and being spot on arriving at a summit cairn.
One look at 13:06 makes me wonder why anyone would want to do more than idly speculate about climbing it. Bad analogy, but it looks like trying to climb a bedsheet draped over a clothesline blowing in the wind.
@@andrewmacdonald4833 --- Thank you 😊. Now that you implicitly point it out, I guess the tricky part would be, you only get to latch onto one side of the bedsheet ....
If there is direct chance of dying then it do not make sense to choose that at all, and everybody know this route has many avalanches which can just kill you it doesn't matter how courageous/fit/great climber you are. So choose wisely
I love when people suddenly switch to a foreign accent when saying the name of a location or person 😂😂 no foreigner has ever suddenly spoken with a dublin accent when saying my name or city 😂😂😂
ONe of these guys was blatantly stupid enough to continue attempting a summit. The mountain just says no sometimes, and they didn't listen. Mountaineers can be some of the most stubbornly idiotic folks on the planet. Guess I don't know the feeling/pull of getting those summits. Also, in the photo of the men, they are actually very close to each other in the center of the photo. The object that is up and to the left is actually their tent.
On occasions I feel that some mountaineers are hellbent on living as deathly as possible, as often as possible - winter, avalanche, worst routes, no oxygen. Please compare with the roadracers, like those at the IoMan TT, they are a bit the same. But they don't race on rainy roads there, while mountaineer mindset would SEEK rainy roads. Tom's mother, Alison Hargreaves, shunned common sense as well then on K2 when the weather turned and the jets started sweeping the summit. They reached about the same age, 33 (she) and 30. I accept that I cannot fully understand why ppl wish to take dear risks - in some way I look up to them, because they live in the moment, and then they cannot fear the future - but this is totally unimaginable.
It's amazing to see that how much effort is utilized to rescue couple of western climbers. I wonder if this sort of effort is campaigned to rescue some sherpas who are the real heroes of these adventures 🤔
Depends on the Sherpas, just like it depends on the western climbers. Plenty of western climbers have been left to die, just like plenty of sherpas have been rescued.
The amount of funds wasted on rescues from these mountain's is atrocious. These people deliberately put themselves into harm's way and inturn put rescuer's lives at risk. Climbing these mountain's should be banned unless climbers sign waivers stating that if anything happens to them, they are on their own
The amount of funds wasted on the Paistan/India conflict.... US invasions, etc. ...and you want to blame MOUNTAINEERS on "wasting money" .... hahaha !!!!! Are you a MENTAL case !?!?
@@sauce1232 you’re being purposefully obtuse, dude. The level of risk to the rescuer is again - FAR LESS helping a car crash victim than some yahoo hanging off the side of a mountain. Driving is a part of every day life. Climbing a mountain is not.
Let me correct u... Nanga Parbat was first successfully climbed in winter on February 26, 2016, by a team consisting of Ali Sadpara, Alex Txikon, and Simone Moro..
There are plenty of high summer mountains you can hike or partially climb. It doesn’t need to be the highest peak for a great experience. Leave your ego at home and just enjoy the outdoors.
High-altitude climbing is both daring and utterly selfish. The surviving family members must agonize each time these people ascend a horridly dangerous peak.
@@sauce1232 Equating the desire to avoid deadly peaks with living in caves is quite the interesting comparison. So despite being an avid outdoor enthusiastic who's traveled to 22 countries, including hiking the Inca Trail and some still-active volcanoes, then I'm a troglodyte hermit? Assume much?
I've read a few comments on here saying how stupid these two were. That's mountaineers for you, living on the edge and going to the extreme, I think nardi had attempted nanga parbat two times previous, he was desperate to submit that mountain.
Climbing 8k+ meters peaks without oxygen being a woman with small children is just reckless and totally irresponsible. Do Russian roulette adventure or get kids but don't do both.
Everest in the death zone rescue is pretty much impossible ......even flying a helicopter rescue to base camp is questionable. They made every human effort on Parbat as they should and I'm sure you would like as well if you were lost.
There is nothing more unsettling to me than when someone who speaks with a perfect American accent also has perfect enunciation of foreign words and names. It feels so unnatural 😂
Daniele Nardi era un Grande Alpinista e insieme a Tom Ballard stavano per toccare la vetta dell'Alpinismo, si il gradino più alto il sogno, il trionfo che vale la pena provare, RIP Eroi
His poor Grandparents if they're still alive. Losing their daughter and then their Grandson? How selfish can people be. Sorry, but this makes me both angry and sad.
These thrill seekers are selfish to a point, because they are intentionally putting their lives in danger for no good reason. We are not supposed to be their the mountains keep telling us that but a lot of people aren't listening. They have spent all that money and either didn't summit, died trying or died descending, yet there are people that are hungry and or homeless.
So you willingly take a route that is prone to avalanches for what? To summit a rock? The more I watch these disasters the more I think mountaineers may be lacking in serious cognitive abilities.
Im at a loss for taking this type of extreme risk for fun and excitement. Kids you got one man in this video game of life. Dont play with it. They could have been eating porter house steak dinners and sipping cherry wine 🍷. But they placed themselves in an awfully bad situation. I wonder at what point did they realize that this is not a good idea and what went thru their minds as they lay dying. Tragic fate that didn't have to end like that .... just brutal.
What’s with this first without oxygen ? Shouldn’t be allowed to risk life just to get into record books ! Def should not be celebrated but the community should inspire people to climb with the best safety possible!
'You should have told me about that injury; I could have sewn it up for you - Peter Aufschnaiter 'No you put your life at risk and I saved it, so SHUT UP! - Heinrich Harrer
@@iluvmoney6767 I understand where you're coming from but I don't think it takes away from the fact that it's sad. Some need a much bigger rush to feel alive than others. It doesn't make it wrong, just different from some others.
Also, Multiple expeditions to the same summit again and again should be stopped . To prevent climate change and also to not let mountaineering becoming a ego sport !!
Ballards mother made him seek her soul from the mountains. This was nothing but a su1c1de mission. Well this is Ballard- Hargreaves family way of living so the family must have been ok for them to die. Alison took also unnecessary risks and Tom was way out of his skills on that trip. Hope Ballard-Hargreaves family is through with their climbing. Too much money and effort has been put to their irresponsibility.
Alison helped create this ridiculous behavior. Psychologically trying to prove himself more of man then his mother? It is disgusting, these females trying to prove something to overcome their insecurities instead of being there for their young children. Su!cidal ideations are what many of these fools suffer from. But a woman to do such selfish things while having extremely young children, is ridiculously psycho. Yes, I get that selfish Alison's selfish drive to be an Adrenaline junkie caused her husband to lose everything.....his business, his home, everything due to SUPPORTING HER EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE HABIT/HOBBY. And then she was forced??? to continue to be selfish, by dumping on her young children and her husband???? No wonder her son CHOSE to be just as selfish. This is Alison's fault. Now her son is dead. Would Alison not be happy until her daughter is dead, too? Did she hate her husband so much that she is taking even his children away from him? Because THAT is what her choice to abandon her children has done to the adults that they became. Does her son feel he needs to be as stupidly legendary as Alison was?? So he willingly goes to his death to feel as important. Yep.....Alison would be SO proud!!😢
She achieved something remarkable and inspired her son to excel. Her husband fully supported both of them. But you know better? What have you achieved I wonder? Nothing much just like most of us.
@@ercelank5603 All he ever dreamed for was conquering the killer mountain in winters. I can tell you about him that he was a man who never gave up, he was soft hearted, a little scared all the time but what a sweet character. He wanted to be remembered as a boy who kept trying and didn't give up. I'll keep remembering him😢
Those who choose to gamble and recklessly destroy themselves and their families lives do so by choice. Climbers have the alternative to STAY off the mountains. Hard to feel sympathy or even pity for those people who do not value their lives.
Some garbage comments below the usual people who think what they think matters. Err.. nope. They died doing what they loved. People have different ways to live life, let them be. No matter what on a human level it's sad what happened not how.
Wayyyyy too much unnecessary detail. The video could have been done in 5 minutes. In fact my advice is to watch the first minute then skip to the last 5 minutes. You'll be glad you did. Yawn.
ali sadpara who was leading the rescue team lost his life the same way these guys died 2 years later while trying to summit K2 in winter and a rescue team and pakistan army helicopters search for him for days until his body was found by his own son. i met him once and he was one of the nicest guy i have ever met always smiling and talking about mountains. rip
You never 'conquer' a mountain. You climb it with respect...for Mother Nature, with humility...
Not really you CAN concur a mihntain and make it your b
With the amount of trash they leave behind there is no respect for nature....
Amen. In the mountains, no one conquers anything.
Have u seen how climbers, not all,, seems a ton that do these huge mountains leave their oxygen tanks/trash etc on the mountains.
Really stupid idea to attempt the Mummery Spur. Even Messner remarked how foolish that particular route was due to the constant avalanches. Like, yeah they could have possibly summited via Mummery, but every hour you'd be wondering if this is the hour when the next inevitable avalanche will get me. The avalanche risk is super high and it's not a question of if you'll encounter an avalanche on Mummery, but rather when.
Really silly of them to try a winter ascent of Mummery Spur.
You're right but Nardi was badly dominated by his anxiety of constant failures on the Nanga Parbat. I personally met him at Basecamp I heard him saying nanga is in him and he'd die for it😢
@@SonofIce514 May Nardi rest in peace.
This route has avalanches, yes let's take that one
Exactly... Its suicide for social media glory
I think Nardi simply had became too obsessed with that specific route, and Ballard got sort of sucked into the obsession. I'm guessing that Nardi's reputation as a climber making notable ascends, only fuelled his obsession with this dangerous route.
These guys tried to summit "the Killer Mountain" in winter via a route that was prone to avalanches. Was anyone surprised when they went missing and was found to have died?
Who would have thought?
It’s the first time I’ve heard this awful news. So Alison’s son has died on an 8,000 metre peak as well?! This is hard to comprehend. If anyone was going to grow up ultra cautious when climbing these mountains I’d have thought it would be her son, knowing how they’d lost Alison on K2. I feel very sorry for the other two members of the family and all the extended family as well. It’s quite shocking to see history repeat itself.
When I get ready about a climb, I decide not to do it
I don't find this shocking and surprising at all. He was searching for her mothers soul and spirit from the mountains.
And was as irresponsible as she was.
He was out of his league. Pure su1c1de mission as was his mothers K2 attempt.
@@principecaprincipeca2243 I tend to agrée when you put it like that.
People unfortunately lose their loved ones in all aspects of life.
Even though it would’ve been just as tough for them.
As extreme mountain adventurers death is simply a calculated risk.
The family left behind, have the comfort of knowing that they died doing the thing they loved enough to risk their lives doing it!
Actually it's pretty easy to comprehend. He followed his mother's example of taking risks and seemingly also shared her risk assesment skill. Same result.
Am I the only one who's impressed by someone who has no noticeable accent whatsoever, but pronounces regional names of things in a perfect dialect of its origin? 😮
Who heard about the 23 year old Marco Siffredi. Who snowboarded down Mount everest. He succeeded the first time. The second time he went on the harder route and never was seen again. Rip Marco siffredi
Unlike regular climbers - at least he went out doing something fun & original
But love Rocco Siffredi 😂
Yeah , i laughed hearing his story
@@maryjanedododeath wish
Excellent suicidal attempt and they succeeded.
I watch a lot of these stories but I must say this is one of MOST BEAUTIFUL Mountains I have EVER seen
Until you see all the trash they leave behind...
@maryjanedodo that's Everest not K2
Nardi was so obsessed because he was excluded from the Nanga Parbat winter expedition by Simone Moro. I think Alex Txikon felt a bit guilty when Nardi and Ballard got lost, he even gave up on his K2 winter attempt to go and look for them. Sad story.
Yes but there's an history to that - one Txikon himself spoke of several times and was confirmed by all other team members of that expedition. While he confirmed feeling some degree of guilt over the 2016 events, he also stated that back then, Daniele Nardi was simply too focused on sharing on social media about their progresses in the climb instead of actually climbing. If you lose trust in a teammate in that environment, excluding that person is likely the best way to go for everyone's safety. I've watched many of Nardi's interviews (I grew up in the same town as he did) and always had the feeling he never really understood or acknowledged what went wrong back then. Terribly sad because he was a skilled mountaineer and left behind a wife and a newborn.
@@EricaBlondie86 So he leaves behind a wife and a newborn who will never know his Father. Very arrogant and selfish of him! Hope his wife collected on a fat life insurance policy!!!
@@iluvmoney6767, if his insurance didn’t cover extreme sports like this, they were screwed. And his 4yo child has been left to never know his/her father. Yeah, seems selfish.
@@ItsJustLisaWhen your dad is an extreme mountaineer.. these things happen..
@@ItsJustLisaand hopefully the young son doesn't follow in the footsteps of his predecessors. One thing the video does not make clear is could they have been rescued if the air restrictions were not there? How long did they survive for up there I wonder
When MEssner says he would never attempt this climb, that is all you need to know!
Totally
Messner soloed Nanaga Parbat in ‘78 from the Diamir side but I don’t guess your aware of this?
He also came down the Mummery Spur but not by choice
The effort and resources spent to bail out these climbers who pursue this hobby boggles my mind.
Not really tbh.
They are there for that exact reason
Daniele Nardi's ego was bigger than Nanga Parbat
NONE OF THESE ARE DISASTERS. at best: the very predictable results of extreme risk-taking
Exactly. A disaster strikes people going about their lives normally, and kills them irregardless of how careful they may be.
It also kills many people, not just a few.
Taunting, or defying death is not a disaster when it goes south; It was a foolhardy mistake.
Many of these mountain climbing incidents seem to arise from foolish choices by very very competent climbers, whose egos overrode what experience should have said was too dangerous to attempt at that particular time
@@davidgraham2673 Well they could have summit fever or oxygen deprivation to make those foolish mistakes.
@@parkerwebb3470 , Apparently, other climbers were there, and knew of their desire to make the summit on a very risky route, at a very risky time.
Everyone seemed to have signed off on it.
@@davidgraham2673 well they may have gotten summit fever or something like that
The worst part is most of the people in these stories have small kids, but people who are this high level of climbers live it every day, they are never going to stop and it was probably part of the deal when they got with their partner
Thank you for sharing the information and documentation
You’re welcome!
Nardi's brother runs our local bouldering gym. Fantastic place to boulder.
I followed this story from the beginning and somehow i knew the end after days of searching.
Unfortunately this craziness never end,at the start they want to climb without oxygen,all the fourteen picks over 8000 meters, after they want to do in winter time and chose the difficult path, so much agony, so much pain for their families.
It's like opioids for many people and not a hobby anymore.
I feel deeply sad for their families 😢.
Thank you, you support very well the story!!!
Yep.....they are Adrenaline junkies!
Do you think they survived for awhile and could have been rescued or were they toast from the beginning? Couldn't tell if the air restrictions had been lifted if they would have made it
I believe an avalanche killed them and there was no way they could have survived. They were both experienced climbers and their death was instantaneous, there was no chance of rescue in my opinion.
As close to a suicide mission as it gets
Yeah ... but that is what makes it fun for these mountaineers.
@@rc198028 Mountaineering? Can't they go skiing like a normal person?
@@tumslucks9781 They can do whatever they like ... they know the risks.
@@tumslucks9781.....an "Adrenaline Junkie" ONLY cares about getting their "fix". Sad.
Nanga Parbat is known as The Killer Mountain for a reason. It is located in Pakistan, southwest of K2.
Correction: Nanga Parbat is Located in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (P.O.K)🙏🙏
You are correct, it is Pakistan and Indian Occupied Kashmir (I.O.K) should be Pakistan as well
💪 Pakistan@@Randomhandlename
I find it ironic how so much efforts were made to rescue (or find the remains of) two people while thousands of lives are casually lost then forgotten/abandoned in a war.
Frankly, none of this story sounded horrible. I'm not going to pretend I feel sorry for the two lost souls. The real horrible fact is the same amount of resourses could have been used to save countless lives in other countries. But apparently some thought they are better spent on two thrillseekers who knowingly put their own lives in danger.
"All men are created equal. But some are more equal than others" - George Owell
Yeah, 50,000 a day would have fed a lot of poor people
Yep!
Tom’s father Jim is filmed in the documentary “The last mountain” saying Tom would be horrified that a rescue was attempted. He says that if you can’t, as a professional climber, get yourself off a mountain by your own efforts, then you don’t deserve to come off.
Good story telling but Ballard's mother, Allison Hargreaves, was not the first woman to climb the 14 8000m peaks. She summitted Everest and K2 before losing her life on the descent from K2. The first woman to climb all 14 8000m peaks is Edurne Pasaban although that's being questioned as well these days with new information on the "true summits" of several 8000m peaks. - Cheers.
Thank you and sorry for the misunderstanding. I have removed this part of the video.
" with new information on the "true summits" of several 8000m peaks ". Can you direct me to some addition information on this.
Apparently If you die on the mountain that summit won't count.
I thought they said she was the first to climb Everest without oxygen?
Don’t get me wrong I love action sports like skateboarding, snowboarding, mountain biking and all that but I cannot imagine going across the world to risk your life climbing a mountain for a view you could get out of the window of an airplane
Then you don’t understand action sports at all. It’s not about the view, it’s about the challenge and experience.
@@amihai_bl
And death apparently.
People don't climb mountains for a view, it's the achievement of being able to summit such a hard mountain, the feeling of pushing yourself literally to the limits of life physically and mentally, over coming fears.
It seems crazy when people pay with their life but until you get that feeling you would never comprehend. You don't have to summit an 8000m in dangerous conditions either, it's whatever is challenging to you personally.
Wait until you hear about underwater cave exploration disasters!
I’m glad someone else understands this. My climbing and walking challenges were never about the view. I have a friend who used to be reluctant to come with me unless it was clear and sunny. “There’s no point - we’ll have no view” was what I frequently heard. Mountains and cloud go together so you wouldn’t do much climbing if you needed a sunny photo on the summit to feel any satisfaction. Some of my most enjoyable days out were on days where the fog was so thick it was a complete whiteout. I’d get real satisfaction from navigating with map and compass and being spot on arriving at a summit cairn.
Good videos! Great that there is someone shedding light on such topics :)
One look at 13:06 makes me wonder why anyone would want to do more than idly speculate about climbing it. Bad analogy, but it looks like trying to climb a bedsheet draped over a clothesline blowing in the wind.
Actually a very clever analogy..
@@andrewmacdonald4833 --- Thank you 😊. Now that you implicitly point it out, I guess the tricky part would be, you only get to latch onto one side of the bedsheet ....
If there is direct chance of dying then it do not make sense to choose that at all, and everybody know this route has many avalanches which can just kill you it doesn't matter how courageous/fit/great climber you are.
So choose wisely
Do you drive a car? There is a direct chance of dying.
I love when people suddenly switch to a foreign accent when saying the name of a location or person 😂😂 no foreigner has ever suddenly spoken with a dublin accent when saying my name or city 😂😂😂
😂
Ha ha.. that needs to start happening
Dooblin
That’s what you think lol. I can assure you that secretly in our own minds it is irresistible not to do exactly that. 🤷🏻♀️💚🤣🤣🤣🤣
@lovelyjanuary I can speak for all dubliners when I say please give it a try, we would appreciate the effort and the giggle that follows 😂 ✌🏻❤️
ONe of these guys was blatantly stupid enough to continue attempting a summit. The mountain just says no sometimes, and they didn't listen. Mountaineers can be some of the most stubbornly idiotic folks on the planet. Guess I don't know the feeling/pull of getting those summits.
Also, in the photo of the men, they are actually very close to each other in the center of the photo. The object that is up and to the left is actually their tent.
Sounds like a boat load of fun…
On occasions I feel that some mountaineers are hellbent on living as deathly as possible, as often as possible - winter, avalanche, worst routes, no oxygen. Please compare with the roadracers, like those at the IoMan TT, they are a bit the same. But they don't race on rainy roads there, while mountaineer mindset would SEEK rainy roads. Tom's mother, Alison Hargreaves, shunned common sense as well then on K2 when the weather turned and the jets started sweeping the summit. They reached about the same age, 33 (she) and 30. I accept that I cannot fully understand why ppl wish to take dear risks - in some way I look up to them, because they live in the moment, and then they cannot fear the future - but this is totally unimaginable.
It's amazing to see that how much effort is utilized to rescue couple of western climbers. I wonder if this sort of effort is campaigned to rescue some sherpas who are the real heroes of these adventures 🤔
Depends on the Sherpas, just like it depends on the western climbers. Plenty of western climbers have been left to die, just like plenty of sherpas have been rescued.
Friends and family raised money to try and find them. So maybe do some research before chatting sumg nonsense
That mountain weather ain’t no joke😳
Really riveting video, Thank You!😍 👏
Great video
Thanks
How much food do they take with them... a Month between 2 inta posts
Where was he born? I’ve never heard of debershire? 0:20
England
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The amount of funds wasted on rescues from these mountain's is atrocious. These people deliberately put themselves into harm's way and inturn put rescuer's lives at risk. Climbing these mountain's should be banned unless climbers sign waivers stating that if anything happens to them, they are on their own
So when you risk your life driving your car on the way to a fast food restaurant you shouldn't be rescued in case of accident either ?
The amount of funds wasted on the Paistan/India conflict.... US invasions, etc.
...and you want to blame MOUNTAINEERS on "wasting money" .... hahaha !!!!!
Are you a MENTAL case !?!?
@@sauce1232 false equivalency. The risk to those rescuing you in a car crash is infinitely lower than on a mountain.
@@MMP1116 It doesn't matter. Rescue is for everyone. Even if you crash driving on alcohol and drugs they will rescue you right?
@@sauce1232 you’re being purposefully obtuse, dude. The level of risk to the rescuer is again - FAR LESS helping a car crash victim than some yahoo hanging off the side of a mountain. Driving is a part of every day life. Climbing a mountain is not.
Let me correct u... Nanga Parbat was first successfully climbed in winter on February 26, 2016, by a team consisting of Ali Sadpara, Alex Txikon, and Simone Moro..
Well I guess they deserved it. The Mountain Gods give you One Chance, they were foolish enough to try again!
I would love to try and climb a mountain but I don't care for cold...
Oddly enough, not all mountains are cold.
@@themobseat now that peaks my interest
There are plenty of high summer mountains you can hike or partially climb. It doesn’t need to be the highest peak for a great experience. Leave your ego at home and just enjoy the outdoors.
@@dereks6794 😆🤣🏔
High-altitude climbing is both daring and utterly selfish. The surviving family members must agonize each time these people ascend a horridly dangerous peak.
Driving your car and risking an accident to go to a fast food restaurant is selfish too then....
@@Roblox_Jesus Yeah if human kind had no drive for adventure we would still be living in caves.
It’s better to support your family members dreams than have them resent you.
@@Roblox_Jesus And there you would be quite wrong, Mr. Sandwich.
@@sauce1232 Equating the desire to avoid deadly peaks with living in caves is quite the interesting comparison. So despite being an avid outdoor enthusiastic who's traveled to 22 countries, including hiking the Inca Trail and some still-active volcanoes, then I'm a troglodyte hermit? Assume much?
Cool channel. Subbed.
Thanks a lot 🙏🏻
I've read a few comments on here saying how stupid these two were. That's mountaineers for you, living on the edge and going to the extreme, I think nardi had attempted nanga parbat two times previous, he was desperate to submit that mountain.
Climbing 8k+ meters peaks without oxygen being a woman with small children is just reckless and totally irresponsible. Do Russian roulette adventure or get kids but don't do both.
@saffanna4001their wives are at home 😂
Some women climb mountains without oxygen..some men gripe about it in the comments on youtube. She died a badass.
Ali Sadbara died 2 jeahrs later
Why don't they wear emergency locators?
Ali Sadpara also died a few years ago.
What happened to them though? An avalanche threw them off?
All that effort and expense to recover these two. Why? People are left dead on Everest all the time.
Everest in the death zone rescue is pretty much impossible ......even flying a helicopter rescue to base camp is questionable. They made every human effort on Parbat as they should and I'm sure you would like as well if you were lost.
Yeah, let em all die, right mr sociopath??
Very good.
It seems there are two types of bold mountaineers; those that were killed and those who weren't killed yet.
Wow so crazy
There is nothing more unsettling to me than when someone who speaks with a perfect American accent also has perfect enunciation of foreign words and names. It feels so unnatural 😂
Except “Ballard”, he mangles that
Daniele Nardi era un Grande Alpinista e insieme a Tom Ballard stavano per toccare la vetta dell'Alpinismo, si il gradino più alto il sogno, il trionfo che vale la pena provare, RIP Eroi
Sogno è un conto.
Questa è stata una follia che gli è costata la vita.
@@marcelloarruzzoli3098 vai a vederti qualche partita di calcio vaaaaa
@@marcelloarruzzoli3098 "Stavano per" non conta. Come dire, stavamo per vincere lo scudetto...
Very brave people but utter madness
How horribly selfish and irresponsible to have a 6 year-old and try to climb K2? Unforgivable.
Funny her family don’t feel that, but I guess you know the situation better than they do.
@@joygibbons5482... it's her opinion. Calm down, you weird clown.
Good vid!
Oh dear, not a disaster a warning to anyone with any common sense. His mother was even worse, leaving a kid behind with these issues
His poor Grandparents if they're still alive. Losing their daughter and then their Grandson? How selfish can people be. Sorry, but this makes me both angry and sad.
These thrill seekers are selfish to a point, because they are intentionally putting their lives in danger for no good reason. We are not supposed to be their the mountains keep telling us that but a lot of people aren't listening. They have spent all that money and either didn't summit, died trying or died descending, yet there are people that are hungry and or homeless.
Zero Celsius isn’t that cold lol
Climbing makes ya crzxy even when you dont have alitude sickness
Tom Ballard's body was hardly 3 mtrs away from tent....
You are either a Parent or a Mountain climber, selfish to leave children behind.
Its nanga not nenga , nanga meaning naked
Nardi was too anbitious
K2 my love. Russian way on the wall is smth to check.
So you willingly take a route that is prone to avalanches for what? To summit a rock? The more I watch these disasters the more I think mountaineers may be lacking in serious cognitive abilities.
Im at a loss for taking this type of extreme risk for fun and excitement. Kids you got one man in this video game of life. Dont play with it. They could have been eating porter house steak dinners and sipping cherry wine 🍷. But they placed themselves in an awfully bad situation. I wonder at what point did they realize that this is not a good idea and what went thru their minds as they lay dying. Tragic fate that didn't have to end like that
.... just brutal.
What’s with this first without oxygen ? Shouldn’t be allowed to risk life just to get into record books ! Def should not be celebrated but the community should inspire people to climb with the best safety possible!
It’s always ego that’ll get u killed. R.I.P to the both of them
Nanga PaRrRrRrrbat
Weird NANGS PARBAT pronunciation - but still solid video!
'You should have told me about that injury; I could have sewn it up for you - Peter Aufschnaiter
'No you put your life at risk and I saved it, so SHUT UP! - Heinrich Harrer
Proper preparation, prevents poor performance.
Everyone is running around with their hair on fire! Like climbers don’t get lost all the time. Especially dumb ones!
So sad
So stupid, arrogant and selfish to partake in an exercise so dangerous.
@@iluvmoney6767 I understand where you're coming from but I don't think it takes away from the fact that it's sad. Some need a much bigger rush to feel alive than others. It doesn't make it wrong, just different from some others.
Also, Multiple expeditions to the same summit again and again should be stopped . To prevent climate change and also to not let mountaineering becoming a ego sport !!
At least they went out doing what they loved.
do climbers feel the mountain is alive and treacherous
Something about posting on social media before/during a serious objectives strikes me as poor form. Afterward? Sure. But don't tempt fate. RIP
Ballards mother made him seek her soul from the mountains. This was nothing but a su1c1de mission.
Well this is Ballard- Hargreaves family way of living so the family must have been ok for them to die.
Alison took also unnecessary risks and Tom was way out of his skills on that trip.
Hope Ballard-Hargreaves family is through with their climbing. Too much money and effort has been put to their irresponsibility.
Alison helped create this ridiculous behavior. Psychologically trying to prove himself more of man then his mother?
It is disgusting, these females trying to prove something to overcome their insecurities instead of being there for their young children.
Su!cidal ideations are what many of these fools suffer from. But a woman to do such selfish things while having extremely young children, is ridiculously psycho.
Yes, I get that selfish Alison's selfish drive to be an Adrenaline junkie caused her husband to lose everything.....his business, his home, everything due to SUPPORTING HER EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE HABIT/HOBBY.
And then she was forced??? to continue to be selfish, by dumping on her young children and her husband????
No wonder her son CHOSE to be just as selfish. This is Alison's fault. Now her son is dead.
Would Alison not be happy until her daughter is dead, too? Did she hate her husband so much that she is taking even his children away from him?
Because THAT is what her choice to abandon her children has done to the adults that they became.
Does her son feel he needs to be as stupidly legendary as Alison was?? So he willingly goes to his death to feel as important.
Yep.....Alison would be SO proud!!😢
She achieved something remarkable and inspired her son to excel. Her husband fully supported both of them. But you know better? What have you achieved I wonder? Nothing much just like most of us.
7:47 the great Ali Sadpara. RIP ❤
They couldn’t have expected to find them alive after a week? All of The 50k could have been given to the school. They were already dead
Although Ali sadpaara was from my country and I'm proud of him. But the way my heart cries for Nardi doesn't feel the same pain while thinking of Ali.
Tell us about Nardi
@@ercelank5603 All he ever dreamed for was conquering the killer mountain in winters. I can tell you about him that he was a man who never gave up, he was soft hearted, a little scared all the time but what a sweet character. He wanted to be remembered as a boy who kept trying and didn't give up. I'll keep remembering him😢
Tom should have stayed solo
Nanga = Naked and Parbat or Parvat = Mountain
RIp brave men
Those who choose to gamble and recklessly destroy themselves and their families lives do so by choice. Climbers have the alternative to STAY off the mountains.
Hard to feel sympathy or even pity for those people who do not value their lives.
Adrenaline Junkies need their next "fix.".......constantly. That's why that kind should NEVER have children.
Some garbage comments below the usual people who think what they think matters. Err.. nope. They died doing what they loved. People have different ways to live life, let them be. No matter what on a human level it's sad what happened not how.
No disaster, expected!..Foolhardy thrill seekers.
Don't go anywhere near Pakistan except last year...
Its ironic how many people who are commenting stupid stuff about Mountaineers are people with little to no mountaineering experience
09:00 Pakistani are OK. Their mountains, their play. Friends forever, Allah be witness.
Wayyyyy too much unnecessary detail. The video could have been done in 5 minutes. In fact my advice is to watch the first minute then skip to the last 5 minutes. You'll be glad you did. Yawn.
Hilarious as usual and sad at same time when you realize this is the average intelligence of yanks
yanks ?
There's accomplished and then there's stupid climbers
B day on sundday
Were they gay?