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  • Tom Silva shows Kevin O’Connor the careful process of installing rafters for a cantilevered roof. Inside, Richard Trethewey solves a venting problem for the kitchen sink before tackling the AC ductwork puzzle. Later, Tom and Kevin install snow cleats on the roof.
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    The final roof section of the house is over the new living room addition. It’s unique because it cantilevers out over a balcony. But as Kevin finds out from Tom, that means installing the rafters takes more care. In the kitchen, the main counter is up against a wall of windows and that causes a problem for venting the drain for the sink. Richard shows Kevin how to install a Bow Vent to send the pipe down through the basement. Outside, Kevin finds Tom giving our apprentice Erick a lesson in letting siding breathe. The HVAC crew has been busy with ductwork and today Richard is helping install an air handler for the bedroom wing. A flat roof in New England can turn into a wintery mess if ice and snow slide onto a doorway. Kevin finds Tom installing cleats on the roof over an entrance.
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    This Old House | Can We Cantilever (S40 E21) | FULL EPISODE
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 121

  • @MrPhotodoc
    @MrPhotodoc 11 місяців тому +2

    There are guys like Richard on every job site and they are custom made to be on TV.

  • @scottyellis3442
    @scottyellis3442 2 роки тому +4

    I really appreciate the video's, keep'em coming. My oldest brother & myself use to watch this old house every Sunday on PBS but he's now long gone so this brings back good memories for me.

    • @shoey64
      @shoey64 Рік тому +1

      Hey Scotty I'm sorry for your loss. I don't know either one of you but I wished I had a brother growing up. I'm glad you both were close. God bless.

    • @scottyellis3442
      @scottyellis3442 Рік тому +1

      @@shoey64 thanks, we lost our daddy when I was only 3 years old & my brother was 16 years older than me so he was my brother my father figure & my best friend. I actually lost one brother overseas while he was serving in the army he was killed in action, then I lost my mom 2/2/22 & my oldest brother in 4/4/22 so these episodes really brings back good memories.

    • @shoey64
      @shoey64 Рік тому +1

      @@scottyellis3442
      Wow I am very sorry for all of your losses. I will say to you thank you for your brother's service. I don't know if your a believer or not but I will keep you in my daily prayers. I'm Steve by the way. God bless you Scotty.

  • @istegalkarl
    @istegalkarl 4 роки тому +4

    16:55 this is my favorite time of the year and favorite kind of work: still a bit of summer in the air while making the house ready for the wintertime. i could watch tommy doing this stuff all day long.

  • @andrewk-majordochomerepair6014
    @andrewk-majordochomerepair6014 4 місяці тому

    Always an incredible team dedicated to teaching and demonstrating honest highly professional work that makes a difference for homes and the people who live in them.

  • @richardraymond5535
    @richardraymond5535 4 роки тому +25

    This house seems like the usual plumbers lament! 😂

  • @davidrobins4025
    @davidrobins4025 4 роки тому +4

    I appreciate the fact you know what the building codes are and comply. They change from jurisdiction to jurisdiction - must be fun to keep up on all that is required. Yet, you do a fantastic job.

  • @Truth_hurts459
    @Truth_hurts459 3 роки тому +1

    9:01 he literally hit the other nail on the head lol had plenty of room anywhere else 😂

    • @mjay4700
      @mjay4700 Рік тому

      Glad someone else caught that and was as equally upset/confused.

  • @cherylholasek2193
    @cherylholasek2193 4 роки тому +7

    Not my kind of house but it’s very interesting. My mom used to say if we were all alike how boring life would be. She was really smart about teaching us such things. I hope they love their new home and thanks for the videos. 😊

  • @JiayinMiranda
    @JiayinMiranda 3 роки тому +3

    This house has 6 different levels?! My understanding of “open plan” is that all floors should be flat.

  • @eli-y
    @eli-y 4 роки тому +21

    Did anyone notice the red 10:24

    • @c187rocks
      @c187rocks 3 роки тому

      Yeah. It happened on some other S40 videos as well.

  • @brotherdan3638
    @brotherdan3638 3 роки тому +1

    tommy: lets hurry up kevin....Kevin: i was just explaining to the viewers the different types of roofing material. tommy good job sir! kevin less talking lol

  • @1stGruhn
    @1stGruhn 4 роки тому +3

    I bet those gaskets on the washers on the snow retainer bracket also serves to separate the Aluminum from the Steel. If you don't put some from of separation there you'll get different metal corrosion as I bet that nut was stainless just as the base of the bracket. Aluminum does not like touching steel.

    • @Fullion-CA
      @Fullion-CA 4 роки тому +1

      Yup galvanic corrosion of dissimilar metals.

  • @jonathandevries2828
    @jonathandevries2828 4 роки тому +6

    Ahhh red flashes!!

    • @TheEmoLab
      @TheEmoLab 3 роки тому

      The red flashes is the camera blinking like a human lol

  • @edrcozonoking
    @edrcozonoking 4 роки тому +38

    Not sure why the "preservation" society wants to preserve what was a cheap way of building with very little actual architectural design.

    • @NosillaWilla
      @NosillaWilla 4 роки тому +4

      Tenatious _E when I bought my Victorian I went to city hall to make sure it wasn’t a part of the local preservation society. Thank heavens it wasn’t.

    • @davidirvin1030
      @davidirvin1030 3 роки тому +2

      Right? And it's a home from the '50s. Like, how important can it be to the neighborhood?

    • @iamamish
      @iamamish 3 роки тому +1

      @@NosillaWilla Yeah I would never contemplate buying a home that was subject to those types of controls. I've seen some horror stories.

  • @marclaclear6628
    @marclaclear6628 2 роки тому +1

    16:51 That rope would tighten up around 20 feet after Kevin hit the pavement.

  • @ceedaddy
    @ceedaddy 3 роки тому +1

    6:30....what prevents the sewer gases from not coming up threw the vent bow...a pipe is never truly filled...I know there is a p-trap at the sink but if the trap ever loses the slug of water all those gases are flowing straight thru the bow...

  • @Iceoskar
    @Iceoskar 4 роки тому +12

    Love the show, red flashes are new though... who was mad in the editorial room? :P

    • @edrcozonoking
      @edrcozonoking 4 роки тому

      That's not from editing, as it was a continuous shot. It was probably from the camera.

    • @keithf5236
      @keithf5236 4 роки тому

      so it wasn't just me that saw them. whew. :)

    • @benkeysor7576
      @benkeysor7576 4 роки тому

      @@keithf5236 IKR?!? I thought it was my computer flipping out.. LOL

    • @bigboat8329
      @bigboat8329 4 роки тому

      @@edrcozonoking no, it wasn't from the camera, media probably got corrupted because red flashes are usually what you see when there are missing frames.

  • @brianfong5711
    @brianfong5711 3 роки тому +3

    6:44 I did not know my kitchen sink drain needed another pipe to shoot gas out of the roof.
    I thought it only needed 1 pipe to drain the water out when I washed my hands.

    • @iamamish
      @iamamish 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah any drain like that has to have a vent. If you look at your roof, you'll probably see a pipe sticking up in the middle, and that's the vent. Otherwise, when water drains out, it creates a vacuum as there is no air to come in behind it (sort of like when you take a straw full of water and put your finger over the top - the water cannot drain).
      There was actually another ToH video in which the homeowner observed that running his washing machine caused his toilet to gurgle. That's why - without a proper vent, the draining water was pulling a vacuum, which in this case was pulling down from the toilet.

  • @thepaulhenderson
    @thepaulhenderson 3 роки тому

    That weird red flash (shortly after 10:22) made me wonder if I might want to make a doctor's appointment...

  • @Handyguy223
    @Handyguy223 2 роки тому +1

    Ive helped install hvac systems as a helper and my god this place is a royal nightmare. Imagine having to add anything mechanical in the future to this home, might be impossible.

  • @2chipped
    @2chipped 4 роки тому +1

    A house's first and main job,is to provide shelter and comfort. Sub-century modern seems to fight that on every level,and 14 is a bad # of levels.

  • @conquerordie230
    @conquerordie230 2 роки тому

    10:52 The Benjamin Obdyke installation instructions for the Slicker Max calls for the fabric to face the cladding not the sheathing. Any particular reason for reversing the installation?

  • @Michigan1
    @Michigan1 Рік тому

    So why not put a vertical box in front of the corner load of kitchen (☆pillar feature) and run the pipe up and out from there? Use a 2x6, bump it next to header support of corner window, even if you drill a 4in hole thru it, you still would have enough meat for wall board

  • @jimfarrell5004
    @jimfarrell5004 4 роки тому +1

    Where can the system to hold the snow on the roof while it is melting can be found?

  • @williamskrainski8407
    @williamskrainski8407 3 роки тому

    3:20 Good luck getting that roof sheathing to lay flat over that.

  • @MikeHarris1984
    @MikeHarris1984 4 роки тому +1

    My new house that I just built has that vent device in the island sink. So SLOW to drain a sink full of water. I was extremely surprised to see the city allows them.

  • @MikeHarris1984
    @MikeHarris1984 4 роки тому +3

    Why didn't they strip the old building and do ZIP to really seal that house. Then re-apply the old boards back to make the preservation society happy.

  • @ionlyplayps5530
    @ionlyplayps5530 3 роки тому +1

    19:56 💀😂💀😂💀 deez nuts

  • @TyinAlaska
    @TyinAlaska 3 роки тому +1

    What is the yellow matrix called?
    Edit: Found it. Slicker Maxx Rainscreen

  • @justinreed7093
    @justinreed7093 2 роки тому

    that's funny in v.a. bow or upside down vents are not allowed however studer or automatic vents are

  • @chuckcash9250
    @chuckcash9250 4 роки тому

    that's beautiful

  • @keithf5236
    @keithf5236 4 роки тому +1

    Isn't all the hvac stuff designed after the plans are drawn up? I always thought hvac, electrical and plumbing is all known where they go before they start framing.

    • @benkeysor7576
      @benkeysor7576 4 роки тому +1

      It's all supposed to be in the Blueprints because everything has to b e approved by the city to get the permits needed.

    • @bigboat8329
      @bigboat8329 4 роки тому +1

      yeah, i think the show was designed to make it look like things were improvised to make some more drama for TV

  • @godbluffvdgg
    @godbluffvdgg 4 роки тому +1

    HVAC and plumbers tradesmen have the hardest job for rough in...Electricians have it hard too...I'm a remodeling contractor so I work with all those guys; nothing but respect and if you're building an addition OR a house ALWAYS consult with your tradesmen, especially HVAC...Rich is the man following client request...I tell my HVAC guys; Run it along the ceiling I'll build a box for it...

    • @TheGuyThatEveryoneIgnores
      @TheGuyThatEveryoneIgnores 3 роки тому +1

      The architect on this project should have consulted the HVAC and plumber tradesmen. The house should have been designed with spaces to put the HVAC and plumbing. Making the tradesmen figure where to put things, after the structure is built, is not very smart.

    • @godbluffvdgg
      @godbluffvdgg 3 роки тому

      @@TheGuyThatEveryoneIgnores You're right; they should have...As I've seen too often, mechanicals are always an afterthought...And we spoil them by doing the hardest part and making it work in the footprint...As part of Architect training they should spend a year in each of the trades...It would really help...I've known a couple guys from the field that became engineers or architects...They always provide the best drawings.

  • @TheEmoLab
    @TheEmoLab 3 роки тому +1

    Tommy is smart

  • @scratch6897
    @scratch6897 3 роки тому +1

    So is there a reason to switch from solid wood joists to the plywood I joists? Are they cheaper or more expensive?

    • @jonasholzem2909
      @jonasholzem2909 3 роки тому +2

      They are probably more dimensionally stable especially considering warping.

    • @scratch6897
      @scratch6897 3 роки тому +1

      @@jonasholzem2909 Oh huh, I honestly would have thought solid wood would be best. That's pretty interesting.

    • @jonasholzem2909
      @jonasholzem2909 3 роки тому +1

      @@scratch6897 It really depends on what you're doing... Plywood gets a bad rap from purists, especially in furniture building, but it is a great material with it's own unique set of strengths and weaknesses and in some situations using plywood is better than using solid wood.

    • @scratch6897
      @scratch6897 3 роки тому +1

      @@jonasholzem2909 That makes sense.

    • @mendonesiac
      @mendonesiac 3 роки тому +2

      Engineered joists are way more expensive than regular lumber, but you can span a longer distance

  • @couchman184
    @couchman184 5 місяців тому

    What gage of staple are we thinking

  • @thepaulhenderson
    @thepaulhenderson 3 роки тому +1

    So, am I correct in assuming that the pretense that this was some "architecturally important structure" despite being a labyrinthian shack that was gutted and completely changed, was only done because of some ridiculous local laws that wouldn't allow it to be demolished like it obviously deserved? I feel like I'm being asked to play along with some "wink-wink, hint-hint" game that's never actually spoken about.

    • @iamamish
      @iamamish 3 роки тому

      Welcome to the local preservation society, where self-important people get to tell you what to do with your property based on what they think it should look like. You can google for more but I'll give you a link to an overview of the Ohio process (link in the next comment in case it gets flagged as spam).

  • @darylg.4270
    @darylg.4270 3 роки тому +1

    Why does HD sell it in Massachusetts then? I think HD shouldn't sell things if it could be a legal thing. Yet like most people in this world "It's not my problem/ job screw them"
    I'd wish more people were honest for no frickin reason...

  • @IandiBoats
    @IandiBoats 3 роки тому +1

    That roof pitch is way out of place for New England.

  • @cbalan777
    @cbalan777 4 роки тому

    I'm curious to see how this one turns out.

  • @tectorama
    @tectorama 4 роки тому

    Having been a plumber in the UK for around 47yrs, I cant believe how complicated you
    make a small job. Then again regulations aren't so strict here, we tend to go more by
    common sense. Also keeping sanitary appliances as close as possible to vertical soil pipes.

    • @hansi6606
      @hansi6606 4 роки тому

      I see what you mean. Here in Germany vents aren't that complicated too. You need to stay within 4 meters to the vertical piping or size up the pipe for inner pipe ventilation.

    • @Knight-xc2tt
      @Knight-xc2tt 4 роки тому +1

      Umm yeah common sense isn't that common.... anywhere in world

    • @bigboat8329
      @bigboat8329 4 роки тому

      yeah but how else would you vent that sink?

  • @conleykennedy
    @conleykennedy 4 роки тому

    Are the trusses ordered with the crush block or are those installed on site, good info!

  • @kalijasin
    @kalijasin 2 роки тому

    Never use aluminum with stainless steel.

  • @rogerkock2456
    @rogerkock2456 4 роки тому +5

    It strikes me that this whole project was a nightmare. I am surprised they accepted this one.

  • @williamskrainski8407
    @williamskrainski8407 3 роки тому

    16:38 Spruce?

  • @chaseweeks2708
    @chaseweeks2708 4 роки тому +1

    @23:10, pulled a nail out of Zip but probably didn't tape over the hole. Should've just driven it home.

  • @keronsuperville4031
    @keronsuperville4031 4 роки тому

    Why not radiate those pipes at the end to melt the snow instead of just holding it back?

    • @bigboat8329
      @bigboat8329 4 роки тому +1

      cause the water would trickle down the side of the building then freeze on the surface below, making ice.

    • @TheGuyThatEveryoneIgnores
      @TheGuyThatEveryoneIgnores 3 роки тому +1

      That would waste a lot of energy.

  • @tombomombodombo
    @tombomombodombo 4 роки тому +1

    Tommy using dewalt!

  • @chet174able
    @chet174able 4 роки тому

    Squash blocks

  • @ericr2zz
    @ericr2zz 4 роки тому +1

    at 13:10 - There is a condensate pump on top floor to pump out A/C condensate. That's a disaster waiting to happen. if the pump fails, the condensate will leak down to the lower floors causing damage. Nobody checks a condensate pump to make sure it's not clogged. The condensate pump should be in a waterproof tub and there should be a water detector inside the tub to determine if water has overflowed into the tub-- indicating a failed pump. Better yet, get rid of the pump and rely on gravity, if possible. There is no shortage of gravity the last time I checked...

    • @TheGuyThatEveryoneIgnores
      @TheGuyThatEveryoneIgnores 3 роки тому

      Maybe with more forethought they could have run it into that soil stack right there.

  • @SidecarBob
    @SidecarBob 4 роки тому

    Did anyone notice that Tommy said they would have to adhere the sheet to the wall with caulking but he applied the matrix over the sheet without sealing it? I hope this doesn't mean they have to take it apart and re-do it....

    • @buckhorncortez
      @buckhorncortez 4 роки тому

      No. It has to be adhered to the foundation (concrete) with an adhesive because it can't be stapled to the concrete. They can come back and lift the small flap up and adhere it to the concrete. Not a problem.

    • @SidecarBob
      @SidecarBob 4 роки тому

      Only if they caught it before they put up the siding. The problem is that this episode aired in 2018 so it is too late to lift the flap. If, as the video implies, they didn't catch it at the time they really should send a crew back to take the wall apart and re-do it correctly.

    • @bigboat8329
      @bigboat8329 4 роки тому

      @@SidecarBob i think they just did this little section for TV, the actual contractors did the rest of the house. if they didnt catch that mistake for the small portion of the house, the rest of the building is fine.

  • @jieling3377
    @jieling3377 3 роки тому +2

    Tommy, your starting to move like an old man, I am 60 I know that feeling, ha ha ha

  • @chrisp7957
    @chrisp7957 4 роки тому +2

    I can appreciate ppe and safety but there was enough rope if he fell he would have hit the ground then bounced back up

  • @shoey64
    @shoey64 Рік тому +1

    How is landscaper Rodger? I don't see him much at all anymore. Thx.

    • @aaqilian5.085
      @aaqilian5.085 Місяць тому

      He retired to Norway after his wife died

  • @peep39
    @peep39 8 місяців тому

    I don't like the overlapped hangers. You'd think they'd make a bracket just for this case

  • @saulgoodman2018
    @saulgoodman2018 4 роки тому

    Why is this channel shown in my subscriptions when they are new episodes?
    I haven't gotten in in my subscriptions in 2 months. Even though I am subscribed to the channel.

  • @rustyrelicsfarm2406
    @rustyrelicsfarm2406 4 роки тому +7

    Id rather live in a Farmhouse instad of that jumble of a house.

    • @KevinFields777
      @KevinFields777 4 роки тому +6

      We know, Caleb, you mention it every freakin' week. I don't understand why you keep watching this season if you hate the house so much.

    • @bigboat8329
      @bigboat8329 4 роки тому

      farmhouses are cool. this is just a complicated modern design. outside of the house looks super ugly though, not sure why they made this nice modern house look like a shoebox with a second floor.

    • @aaqilian5.085
      @aaqilian5.085 Місяць тому

      Who cares, guy? It ain’t your house. Move on

  • @libertarian1637
    @libertarian1637 3 роки тому

    That looked like a 1:1 cantilever; I thought cantilevers had to be at least a 2:1, inside to out. I get the savings/point of the engineered joists but don’t like them; as a firefighter they’re quite dangerous as they don’t last or hold up in a fire the OSB center just isn’t strung enough and burns through too fast.

  • @ShakespeareCafe
    @ShakespeareCafe 3 роки тому +1

    Multi-level home like this is a joke. You break your leg skiing and you're screwed

    • @aaqilian5.085
      @aaqilian5.085 Місяць тому

      What about if you break a leg not skiing? Are you still screwed or is it only while skiing?

  • @RegulareoldNorseBoy
    @RegulareoldNorseBoy 4 роки тому +1

    What rhe hell is a Canti Lever ?

    • @imreb321
      @imreb321 3 роки тому +1

      Cantilever: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantilever

  • @silverSScamaro
    @silverSScamaro 4 роки тому +3

    what a nightmare

    • @zack9912000
      @zack9912000 4 роки тому +2

      Yea a butcher of a home where idiot home owners adding on, but no mechanical room and ignoring the experts. no wonder the only contractor willing to put up with the bs is this old house.

    • @VideosbySteve
      @VideosbySteve 4 роки тому +1

      Its the most over-engineered house ever.

  • @ellenthorne8222
    @ellenthorne8222 4 роки тому +2

    Not my type of house.

  • @canubeleiveit
    @canubeleiveit 3 роки тому

    People have too much money

  • @syntaxerorr
    @syntaxerorr 4 роки тому +1

    I or H? Most engineering people I've talked to call it a H beam.

    • @unclebuild8480
      @unclebuild8480 4 роки тому +1

      I guess it depends on one looks at it.

  • @judysebold1436
    @judysebold1436 4 роки тому

    When will you start a new project? Every thing on UA-cam are repeats

    • @KevinFields777
      @KevinFields777 4 роки тому +2

      The 2nd half of Season 41 started airing on March 26th, 2020 on your local PBS station.

    • @benkeysor7576
      @benkeysor7576 4 роки тому +1

      While these might have already aired on PBS, they are new to UA-cam. Not everyone is able to watch the show on TV.

    • @bigboat8329
      @bigboat8329 4 роки тому +1

      they probably cant release the brand new ones on UA-cam because they have contract limitations with PBS

  • @lunchlady2023
    @lunchlady2023 2 роки тому

    This show would be so much better if Kevin had a squeaky hammer because he has no clue how to use real tools.

  • @joeschlotthauer840
    @joeschlotthauer840 4 роки тому

    21:11 looks like a bullshit setup to me...