This is one of the videos that motivated me to buy my first plane. So far 4 or 5 flights and my confidence is improving. One of the best planes to start with. Thank you Andrew!!!
@@MadMike78 I have a ZOHD controller just for backup in case something goes bad then I can activate return to home, however I dont use it in regular flight. This plane don't need stabilizer. Thank you for asking.
The Volantex Phoenix 2000 is one of the truly great foam aircraft. I've been flying the version 1 for years. I got it as the kit version and installed the Turnigy L3010B-1300kv motor which gives almost vertical climb. I usually fly it with a 1300 mAh 3S, This gives me 5 bursts up to altitude (until it's a speck) with enough reserve for landing go-arounds if necessary. I can quite often get 30+ minutes per flight on a warm summer's day. Fantastic plane. PS - because the 2M version is so good I thought the ASW 2.8M glider would be even better but I never enjoyed flying it as much as the Phoenix and sold it off fairly quickly.
I planted my first pheonex 2000 over a decade ago with probably the better part of 500 flights on her. Got the V2 now. Its waiting to get built and flying. I agree the V2 looks better. Looking forward to flying her!
Following your review I bought this model and I have to say Its simply sensational for the price, members at my flying club love It, I've fitted a Matek f405-wing in mine It was a tight fit but It works as It should!! If your gonna order one then use Andrew's link and help support the channel in a small way! Best videos on UA-cam in my opinion!
They're not all that expensive. Here's the first version still on sale at Hobbyking for £55, just add receiver and battery. hobbyking.com/en_us/phoenix-2000-epo-composite-r-c-glider-arf.html
@@wordreet That link sent me to the arf (kit) version. Needed all electronics etc. That hk Australia price was $152.35. The pnp is going on banggood for $199 inc shipping in Aus. Much better value.
Hi Andrew, I'm completely new to the RC glider hobby. I'm a little confused about one thing. I was under the impression that you have to launch into the wind and then track down wind to source thermals as the breeze passing you is directing you towards a close thermal. You stayed upwind in this video searching?.
Practical reasons, down wind is a busy road. Thermals can be anywhere, just that they end up downwind after they pass by. Some areas of lift are stationary over a ground feature.
Hi, great video, I'm looking at this thinking it might be a good return to RC after spending many hours doing this hobby as a teenager. Could you tell me what the variometer system is that you used with the glider. You need a bi directional transmitter? Or is it a separate system. Thanks
Yes it would be a good choice for your return to RC flight. I'm using the FrSKY Variometer which needs a receiver that supports S-Port telemetry sensors. I have done a few videos on FrSKY telemetry sensors. They also make receivers with a vario built in.
Dear Andrew, I had a Bixler 2, now i want to buy it again, but it's out of stock. I still want glider, but having some new "thrills". The Phoenix 2000 has an amazing wingspan, while the skysurfer x8 seems to be more funny and sporty addicted. What should you choose between the two ? Many thanks! Marco, from Verona, Italy
Hello Andrew, Congratulations for your videos very inspiring ! I would have your opinion on 2 gliders you know well i think ;) Which glider do you prefer the most between ASW28 V2 & Phoenix V2 2000, and why ? which one do you think is the best for thermal in plains ? In advance, thank to you, Ben.
Andrew, Any chance you could tell me the gear you use for the variometer (both internally and tx's that can utilise it? The sound is reminiscent of being in the cockpit of the glider itself. Also very useful to determine rates of climb during thermaling! I've watched this video about 10 times. Love your work, mate. Nick, Wollongong Australia.
nice review and I love these planes. is it any better than the volantex 2m ranger for gliding? I have it with the clip in wings but prefer the look of a tractor over a pusher. cheers and thanks
hello there Andrew i myself am just getting into glider as been flying for many years glow and now would like to relax and get a bit of thermal if possible i notice you said when you applied flaps you have some elevator mixed in is that up elevator? reason i ask is as i have a tundra and when i apply the flaps in climbs a great deal so i am just wanting to know is it the same or do you compinsate with a little up elevator mixing any info would be so helpful as i have just purchased the volantex 2000 V2 myself and also the Ezio 1500 from hobbyking as a balsa setup minus the flaps i thought the two would give me a good start into gliding as there pretty much ready to go straight out the box just with a little assembly and setup, great video and i must say watching this video is whats made me get the volantex 2000 v2, cheers and hope to hear back from you when you have some time , regards Andrew Reece.
Hey Andrew. When you deploy flaps most planes will pitch the nose up. Not all however, some stay level and some pitch down. I needed about 10% down elevator to hold my Phoenix V2 level. Have a look in my programming playlist for the videos
Very good review as usual Andrew. I like the very definite audio you have set to distinguish the climb and descant. Its a Teranis you are using. isn't it. I can't seem to get mine as good. What settings do you use to achieve the sounds. My Phoenix V1 is still excellent so I just couldn't upgrade, " at the moment"
Hi Andrew Was watching the video and noticed at the 1:36 mark to 1:41 mark there was an Unidentifed Flying Object that can be seen shooting off in the distance. Was it another RC flyer or somethong else?, as it moved pretty quickly. Love the Phoenix!! Cheers.
Its always on preorder at BG, must be popular Mine is on its way, looks great, also your build video was good, hopefully I will find it also beautiful, haha. Where there any other mods besides for the flaps??
Hey Andrew, older vid but hoping to get your input. I'm lookin to pick this or something like it up for a glider. Thinking I really want to try a plane with flaps as I haven't yet. Would this still be a good recommendation? Thanks!
Good Morning Andrew, Was wondering if you could compare the Volantex Phoenix and the E-flite Conscendo? Or, would you consider them different enough to be incomparable?
Andrew, is that the same wing as the Volantex Ranger pusher 2000? Thank you for posting such wonderful video reviews, flights and tips to get the best from these models.
I think the 2000 is a much better glider than the 2400, but it's not the best beginner's plane. Much easier to learn on a Bixler 2 or Skysurfer X8 style pusher motor glider.
Beautiful bird!! I think it needs a second canopy to be able to cut an opening just large enough for my Runcam2 or your Mobius to keep it nice and slick..;)
@@AndrewNewton Andrew that's that's great it takes me an hour to get out onto our West Desert and start flying and even then there's people there now you have to even go further I kind of hate the build-up all the people moving into the Salt Lake City Valley I have four years thanks for answering, again you can bet on it.
I cant find the perfect cg with a 2200mAh. On full throttle she climbs almost in a loop without elevator. But she glides very good. If i put the battery for more nose heavy, she dont glides good but climbs normal without almost looping on full throttle....what should i do? Also landing is a bit of problem because she is very fast even with flaps, but i dont clip it like you do for more degrees of flaps
Not a CG problem. Pitching up under power is normal for many gliders. Ideally you would tilt the motor down a bit more, but you can mix in some down elevator with throttle to stop it pitching up.
I'm a beginner and I've been training on my Apprentice s15e and want to get a powered glider is this a good glider to start and grow with? My other choices were the Conscendo Advanced and Night Radian?
Is an 11 inch prop too much for that motor? I also have an aluminium spinner but it is so heavy compare to the plastic. What are your thoughts on replacing the spinner and using the larger prop? Should I just replace it with a 10 inch?
Might need to add some butterfly/ crow braking to slow her down for landing on the slope. Looks better than v1. Wonder if they will update the 2600. Looked like a little inverted flight mixed into that roll?
I just got one of these gliders, it’s the first aircraft I had to put my own receiver in ( no safe or as3x etc) and it was a handful for me, it didn’t help though that the 2200 3s battery I had in it moved all the way forward! I safely landed it but a little afraid to try it again yet! I have a dx6 radio and other than naming the model and binding it I have no dual rates set up and I can’t get the flaps to work right. I have the flaps on a 3 position switch with the switch in the zero position the flaps actually go up a little, the middle position they are level and in position 3 they go down about 30 degrees. I just retired and well as you can tell I’m a rookie, if you have any tips etc I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks!
Just shorten the flap pushrods so the flaps are level with switch at zero. Reduce the throws by moving the pushrods to an inner hole on the servo arms.
I would also suggest using velcro (fluffy to the battery, hooks to the plane) to keep the battery from sliding! The straps that are included only stop it from lifting and moving left and right, NOT backward and forward. I always give the battery a good jiggle to make sure there is good contact between the hooks and loops and turn the plane nose down and shake it once or twice to see if its stuck in well. Do your testing on the ground. Not the air ;) Happy flying, Steve! -nick-
Bought the v2 after seeing your original review a year ago. Loved flying it but was using with 2200 3s to balance out a camera on the tail. Flying aerobatics and scenic stuff over the sea. Never got to thermalling or soaring. My bro in law wrote it off when I was teaching him on it unfortunately. I then went to a 1.7 fms cub and then a 3m fms fox which I'm selling as too big for the spaces I fly in. Really want another smaller glider but torn between phoenix V2 or the phoenix 2400 as would like the fact the 2400 is easier to see but with the smallest battery to get cg is the 2400 still worse at ridge lift or thermalling than the v2? Have watched your vids again on both but still can't decide. I really want a floaty glider that I can ridge fly (small cliff for me really in UK) that won't just stall without warning. Any further thoughts on either model much appreciated
2400 is too big and draggy, and wants to tip stall even at the lightest weight. Cant beat the Phoenix V2 for all round performance, thermalling and slope soaring.
@@scottbusby6095 A setup I love for slope soaring is the ASW28 wing on the Phoenix 2000 body. The ASW28 was not great for thermalling but it's awesome in this configuration.
@@AndrewNewton oh ok, interesting...Is that phoenix 2000 v2 body or original 2000? I did think about the asw28 but that tail looks too flimsy. Also is it advisable to set flaps and ailerons for slight camber on takeoff or just flaps? Some research I have done says camber reduces aileron effectiveness. Am curious as want to try this when sloping.
NIce! That really encourges me to reactivate my Phoenix 2000 v1 again which is sitting on the shelf for too long now. Thumbs Up! P.S. what are the differences between version v1 and v2 exactly?
Yes it is a beauty. Obvious differences are fuselage material, this is stiffer and shiny, addition of landing wheel, servos moved down back, larger cockpit area, wing mounting, empennage shape, and maybe wing area but I'll have to confirm that.
love it. would be a good plane for me cause its fairly large so should be visible to me from the ground when its up there past the 100 meter mark? great for aerial video or FPV, or even a longer range planewith a little ground-station setup? any chance you might get into long-range flying or, we going to leave that up to arcxangel.. :-D
@@AndrewNewton well..its a glider so i dont think that its a problem,but i lately build planes with HUGE ailerons an wicked roll rate witch i am used to at the moment
Thnx a lot i think i go for the ranger then . I like to fly more efficiënt. Very good for longe range too. Is there something special i have to do in the cli command. Thnx
I hope you see this! I was inspired to get this sailplane! Unfortunately I have only been rc flying since November 2020 and didn't think to look to UA-cam for help. My mistake was putting all Spektrum crap in it. Oh well. I went with a AR637T and a 6 channel transmitter. DX6e. UGH!!!! Even with a crap setup this plane flies an eagle soaring over it's prey! Once in awhile ill flip it upside down just to see if i can get it to drop all the crap electronics lol. now that I've watched a few of your videos im going to change the setup all together. Im not sure if I want to go full house yet though. Im still a rookie pilot wannabe. The though of gps and fpv are a little scarey to me but I think my best bet would be to get it set up for the future. Any thoughts? I have a couple easy flying videos. I live in Oregon and the couple times I flew on the beach, the wind was pushing south to north and made things a little weird. The following day the winds were literally 0 so i had to motor around to find lifts. I really want to get into ole school home built DLG. I get a rush watching some of the videos and imagine myself up there piloting around in a 300km circle lol
HI Andrew got my new one.. been flying all day yesterday just having trouble with the cg. 2200 have to push it really back.. 1300 also a bit behind. when it glides well then with the motor on a bit tail heavy ...any suggestion..?
That's normal for a lot of motor gliders, gliding properly and pitching up when you power up. You can tilt the motor down a little by adding some thin spacers behind the upper motor mount holes, or you can mix in some down elevator with throttle, or you can just control the pitch-up with elevator until you attain the height where you throttle down.
@@AndrewNewton great answer.... I spent sometime trying to correct up with throttle. funny thing I crashed my conscendo slighty... bent motor downward ...cured problem...
so, in my quest for a nice glider and after vowing never to own another phoenix, i caved in and ordered this V2 2000, it just ticks so many box`es for me, but might have to put a bigger ESC in and fly it 4s !
Great Video, after seeing it, I just purchased mine. I didn' t step into fpv yet, nor simple video recording, and I find this one might be a good opportunity for that What camera or setup would you recommend for this plane? Thanks and keep on posting this great stuff.
Please build a gullwing glider, without an Emponage. I was tasked to build one at university that had to be adjustable in both forward and backwards sweep aswell as anhedral and dihedral adjustability. I would love to see your approach. Love your videos by the way.
Without empennage, sounds like a flying wing I guess. Gull-wing sounds like reverse polyhedral (like the FMS Moa). On top of that they want forward sweep and anhedral too...?? Doesn't sound like a entirely successful plan, but I suppose they want to illustrate what works and what doesn't, for educational purposes :)
What a great day for a flight with such a beaut glider. I wish Horizon would add flaps to the Radian & conscendo as they did with the Radian XL ( Spoilers)
I almost got those but didn't because IMO gliders should have flaps! I ended up getting the one in this video and for a 1st RC plane I absolutely love flying it!
Hi Andrew, I wait for your review of new Volantex 759-3 Phoenix 2400 - it looks like Phoenix v2 with new 2400mm wings. I hope will be fly great (maybe as good as P.Evo 2600 ;-)
But....but....but..... I thought I was supposed to buy the Ranger 1600 next...... :/ :v ;) Sky Hawk will just have to do me for now.....& the Dart, AND the Tek-Sumo Twin......lol! Thanks again :D
I like your thinking, but Im going to need a bigger shed shortly... :v I DID promised myself a tricopter eventually when I first got interested in FPV- I should have almost enough winged beasties for now, time to start saving again.... 3:) ;)
Mine turned up yesterday Andrew watched your videos very good and helpful something different. Loads of gliders on the market this cought my eye for the price point and had good reviews thinking of putting a spectrum 6600t telemetry reciver in. Thankyou for replying back so soon take care any other tips would be appreciated. 👍
Phoenix V2, or even better (for thermalling) Phoenix Evolution 2.6. The ASW28 looks great but the wings and tail dont translate to foam construction very well.
Conrad Taggart You set up a switch to activate vario, then you set up a mix with throttle that reverses the switch that activated the vario. I could do it on DX9, I never ran FR Sky but sure it could be done.
If we a re thinking about thermalling ability - Phoenix Evolution 2.6 is the best, Phoenix 2000 V2 next, then ASW28 third. For cruising around on power they are all close.
There is no point buying this plane. Its not an upgrade, the fuselage is from an fpv model, not a "better" design from the original. The V2 is heavier, a silly wheel, w a Ranger body. Not streamlined, but well its the new thing so who does not like a new toy. V1 flies w a 3S V2 w a 4S (definitely heavier) In fact now more than ever I should buy a second V1 to have as spare before it is discontinued.
This is one of the videos that motivated me to buy my first plane. So far 4 or 5 flights and my confidence is improving. One of the best planes to start with. Thank you Andrew!!!
Great insight from a beginner's perspective thanks Arnoldo.
Are you using a flight controller?
@@MadMike78 I have a ZOHD controller just for backup in case something goes bad then I can activate return to home, however I dont use it in regular flight. This plane don't need stabilizer. Thank you for asking.
@@arnoldoblanco4136 Cool, I have one of those lol Thanks for sharing. I don't have many people to ask about this stuff.
@@MadMike78 No problem friend. Let me know if you need any help
The Volantex Phoenix 2000 is one of the truly great foam aircraft. I've been flying the version 1 for years. I got it as the kit version and installed the Turnigy L3010B-1300kv motor which gives almost vertical climb. I usually fly it with a 1300 mAh 3S, This gives me 5 bursts up to altitude (until it's a speck) with enough reserve for landing go-arounds if necessary. I can quite often get 30+ minutes per flight on a warm summer's day. Fantastic plane. PS - because the 2M version is so good I thought the ASW 2.8M glider would be even better but I never enjoyed flying it as much as the Phoenix and sold it off fairly quickly.
I agree totally. The Phoenix 2K is better than it should be and the ASW28 is worse than it could be.
I really enjoy your content Andrew. Thank you for making it.
I planted my first pheonex 2000 over a decade ago with probably the better part of 500 flights on her. Got the V2 now. Its waiting to get built and flying. I agree the V2 looks better. Looking forward to flying her!
It is a classic design, still a favourite
the beeping and talking I hear, what is that? Is it from a voltage meter ? Please tell me more. Thanks for all you do, I learn so much from you.
FrSKY Variometer. Search my channel for how to
Superb. Volantex do make great planes!
Following your review I bought this model and I have to say Its simply sensational for the price, members at my flying club love It, I've fitted a Matek f405-wing in mine It was a tight fit but It works as It should!! If your gonna order one then use Andrew's link and help support the channel in a small way! Best videos on UA-cam in my opinion!
Thanks so much Kevin. It is a classic glider
I own this plane to and love it.
Congratulations Andrew !
I do wish you'd stop reviewing such beautiful planes.
I'm gonna need a bigger bib for all the drool
Apologies, but they keep sending them!
a bigger budget rather than bib would help
Just love your presentation on the Phoenix powered glider thanks.
Nice one Sir Andrew, I have an unbuilt V1 P2000 Kit, you have inspired me to remove digit and build it. I was going to sell it.
Thanks Andrew.
Thanks for the video review!
Very interesting and informative video!
I really want to get one of these---soon !!!
Very cool plane!
Awesome. I just love this kind of planes. Wish I could afford to buy one..
They're not all that expensive. Here's the first version still on sale at Hobbyking for £55, just add receiver and battery.
hobbyking.com/en_us/phoenix-2000-epo-composite-r-c-glider-arf.html
@@wordreet That link sent me to the arf (kit) version. Needed all electronics etc. That hk Australia price was $152.35. The pnp is going on banggood for $199 inc shipping in Aus. Much better value.
Nice flying glider! You could just sail around all day with a little thermal action ;-) So slow and smooth ;-) Happy Gliding!
Yeah, my kind of flying
Hi Andrew, I'm completely new to the RC glider hobby.
I'm a little confused about one thing.
I was under the impression that you have to launch into the wind and then track down wind to source thermals as the breeze passing you is directing you towards a close thermal.
You stayed upwind in this video searching?.
Practical reasons, down wind is a busy road. Thermals can be anywhere, just that they end up downwind after they pass by. Some areas of lift are stationary over a ground feature.
Hi, great video, I'm looking at this thinking it might be a good return to RC after spending many hours doing this hobby as a teenager. Could you tell me what the variometer system is that you used with the glider. You need a bi directional transmitter? Or is it a separate system. Thanks
Yes it would be a good choice for your return to RC flight. I'm using the FrSKY Variometer which needs a receiver that supports S-Port telemetry sensors. I have done a few videos on FrSKY telemetry sensors. They also make receivers with a vario built in.
Beautiful mate. Great flying and awesome looking aircraft. A huge like from me. Cheers ✈️😊👍
Look forward to the sloping
Thenks
Dear Andrew, I had a Bixler 2, now i want to buy it again, but it's out of stock.
I still want glider, but having some new "thrills".
The Phoenix 2000 has an amazing wingspan, while the skysurfer x8 seems to be more funny and sporty addicted.
What should you choose between the two ?
Many thanks!
Marco, from Verona, Italy
I would move on to a Phoenix. Depends if you want more of a glider or a fly-around style of plane.
Hi Andrew. Would this also be a good step up from a bixler?
Hello Andrew,
Congratulations for your videos very inspiring !
I would have your opinion on 2 gliders you know well i think ;)
Which glider do you prefer the most between ASW28 V2 & Phoenix V2 2000, and why ? which one do you think is the best for thermal in plains ?
In advance, thank to you,
Ben.
Muy bueno esperaba la inauguración
I want one, damnit.
Thanks!
Wow! I've got to have this! Thank you!
Yes, it's one plane I will always own
Andrew,
Any chance you could tell me the gear you use for the variometer (both internally and tx's that can utilise it? The sound is reminiscent of being in the cockpit of the glider itself. Also very useful to determine rates of climb during thermaling!
I've watched this video about 10 times. Love your work, mate.
Nick,
Wollongong Australia.
You bet, just search my channel for vario. Heaps of videos on setup
@@AndrewNewton cheers!
Looking forward to see this on the slope with wind.. also from memory i would say the V2 seems to have more wing chord than the original?
Maybe, I'll have to check
nice review and I love these planes.
is it any better than the volantex 2m ranger for gliding? I have it with the clip in wings but prefer the look of a tractor over a pusher.
cheers and thanks
Less drag than the Ranger so it would likely be a better glider
many thanks.
cheers
hello there Andrew i myself am just getting into glider as been flying for many years glow and now would like to relax and get a bit of thermal if possible i notice you said when you applied flaps you have some elevator mixed in is that up elevator? reason i ask is as i have a tundra and when i apply the flaps in climbs a great deal so i am just wanting to know is it the same or do you compinsate with a little up elevator mixing any info would be so helpful as i have just purchased the volantex 2000 V2 myself and also the Ezio 1500 from hobbyking as a balsa setup minus the flaps i thought the two would give me a good start into gliding as there pretty much ready to go straight out the box just with a little assembly and setup, great video and i must say watching this video is whats made me get the volantex 2000 v2, cheers and hope to hear back from you when you have some time , regards Andrew Reece.
Hey Andrew. When you deploy flaps most planes will pitch the nose up. Not all however, some stay level and some pitch down. I needed about 10% down elevator to hold my Phoenix V2 level. Have a look in my programming playlist for the videos
@@AndrewNewton thanks Andrew will do , cheers bud. take care .
Very good review as usual Andrew. I like the very definite audio you have set to distinguish the climb and descant. Its a Teranis you are using. isn't it. I can't seem to get mine as good. What settings do you use to achieve the sounds. My Phoenix V1 is still excellent so I just couldn't upgrade, " at the moment"
Stock settings for the vario sounds (latest OpenTX) but I selected Silent for the middle tone
Andrew Newton thanks. I will have a go at that.
What thing use you vor the noise of the Thermal detection? Sorry for my bad english
FrSKY Vario sensor - ua-cam.com/video/oe_LIWRJ37w/v-deo.html
Hi Andrew
Was watching the video and noticed at the 1:36 mark to 1:41 mark there was an Unidentifed Flying Object that can be seen shooting off in the distance.
Was it another RC flyer or somethong else?, as it moved pretty quickly.
Love the Phoenix!! Cheers.
Correct, Aliens in a UFO. Disguised to look like an RC Cessna
Cheers Andrew
Very Nice. I have one question. I want long range and inav which would you preffer skyhunter 1800 or ranger 2000.Thnx for all your good work love it 👍
I prefer the Ranger 2000, much tougher and more efficient, but less internal space
Its always on preorder at BG, must be popular Mine is on its way, looks great, also your build video was good, hopefully I will find it also beautiful, haha. Where there any other mods besides for the flaps??
Hey Andrew, older vid but hoping to get your input. I'm lookin to pick this or something like it up for a glider. Thinking I really want to try a plane with flaps as I haven't yet. Would this still be a good recommendation? Thanks!
Yes, this is one of the best foamy gliders, and a great model to play with flaps.
@@AndrewNewton Sold. Thanks man! Love your vids and thank you so much for making them!
Good Morning Andrew,
Was wondering if you could compare the Volantex Phoenix and the E-flite Conscendo? Or, would you consider them different enough to be incomparable?
I dont know the Concendo, but it would have to be very good to beat the Phoenix V2
@@AndrewNewton Warmliner from Horizon Hobby. Seems to be a nice glider. Two things the Phoenix has over it are flaps and price.
Does motor become hot after flight? Does it need ventilation holes around motor?
Doesn't get hot. Motor and prop are correctly matched.
Andrew, is that the same wing as the Volantex Ranger pusher 2000?
Thank you for posting such wonderful video reviews, flights and tips to get the best from these models.
Thanks BB. Yes exactly the same wings
Would you recommend this for a learner Andrew? How does it compare to the Volantex Phoenix S 2400 you reviewed?
I think the 2000 is a much better glider than the 2400, but it's not the best beginner's plane. Much easier to learn on a Bixler 2 or Skysurfer X8 style pusher motor glider.
Beautiful bird!! I think it needs a second canopy to be able to cut an opening just large enough for my Runcam2 or your Mobius to keep it nice and slick..;)
Yes good idea!
Great job!
It's a wonderous plane, you are a great innovator, just amazing what you have, great wind, how far do you need to drive to get to you flying site?
10 minute drive to the field, or 20 min to the slope soaring coastal dunes.
@@AndrewNewton Andrew that's that's great it takes me an hour to get out onto our West Desert and start flying and even then there's people there now you have to even go further I kind of hate the build-up all the people moving into the Salt Lake City Valley I have four years thanks for answering, again you can bet on it.
Andrew looks like you were happy with the 10 percent mixes on elevator and rudder or did you add more?
15% in the end
@@AndrewNewton cheers Andrew!
I cant find the perfect cg with a 2200mAh. On full throttle she climbs almost in a loop without elevator. But she glides very good. If i put the battery for more nose heavy, she dont glides good but climbs normal without almost looping on full throttle....what should i do?
Also landing is a bit of problem because she is very fast even with flaps, but i dont clip it like you do for more degrees of flaps
Not a CG problem. Pitching up under power is normal for many gliders. Ideally you would tilt the motor down a bit more, but you can mix in some down elevator with throttle to stop it pitching up.
how it behaves in regards to tip stall? ist it critical, do you have to take care not to get to slow and risk a tip stall...?
No problems with the V2. But the 2400 does tend to drop a wing when it stalls.
Love it!
Hello Andrew! Which glider is better for therm Phoenix 2000 or Multiplex Heron?
I dont know the Heron
I'm a beginner and I've been training on my Apprentice s15e and want to get a powered glider is this a good glider to start and grow with? My other choices were the Conscendo Advanced and Night Radian?
Yes the Phoenix 2000 V2 is a winner.
Hi, nice vid, thanks. Do the V2 wings fit the Phoenix 2400?
No unfortunately
@@AndrewNewton Thanks.
Is an 11 inch prop too much for that motor? I also have an aluminium spinner but it is so heavy compare to the plastic. What are your thoughts on replacing the spinner and using the larger prop? Should I just replace it with a 10 inch?
Depends on the prop pitch 11x?. Ali spinner would be good.
@@AndrewNewton thank you. It’s 11x6 carbon. It also came with a 12x6. Any of those ok? Esc will be upgraded to at least 50-60a. 5a
@@Photo-Stuff As long as you're not thrashing it the motor will be OK. 12x6 might be pushing it
@@AndrewNewton thanks so much for your advice.
where can I get the wing rods for the phoenix 2000 V2?
Great videos! ....do you know if the 2400 volantex fuselage fits to the v2. Do the wings of the 2400 fits to the v2
Nothing can be swapped unfortunately
Thanks for info, great vids
Might need to add some butterfly/ crow braking to slow her down for landing on the slope.
Looks better than v1. Wonder if they will update the 2600.
Looked like a little inverted flight mixed into that roll?
Roll pause roll. Updated 2600 would be great
I just got one of these gliders, it’s the first aircraft I had to put my own receiver in ( no safe or as3x etc) and it was a handful for me, it didn’t help though that the 2200 3s battery I had in it moved all the way forward! I safely landed it but a little afraid to try it again yet! I have a dx6 radio and other than naming the model and binding it I have no dual rates set up and I can’t get the flaps to work right. I have the flaps on a 3 position switch with the switch in the zero position the flaps actually go up a little, the middle position they are level and in position 3 they go down about 30 degrees. I just retired and well as you can tell I’m a rookie, if you have any tips etc I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks!
Just shorten the flap pushrods so the flaps are level with switch at zero. Reduce the throws by moving the pushrods to an inner hole on the servo arms.
Andrew Newton thanks I’ll give that a whirl 😀
I would also suggest using velcro (fluffy to the battery, hooks to the plane) to keep the battery from sliding! The straps that are included only stop it from lifting and moving left and right, NOT backward and forward. I always give the battery a good jiggle to make sure there is good contact between the hooks and loops and turn the plane nose down and shake it once or twice to see if its stuck in well.
Do your testing on the ground. Not the air ;)
Happy flying, Steve!
-nick-
Life with Nick and Hayley thanks for the info!
Would this be a good beginner plane, or shall i look for something else
It would be OK, but a pusher like the Bixlers would survive your initial crashes better.
The radio talking and variometer readings I hear. Did you install gps on the glider?
No GPS, just FrSKY Vario sensor
So, Sir Andrew, does the Volantex Phoenix v2 2000 soar on the slope?
Oh yes, it's the best
Bought the v2 after seeing your original review a year ago. Loved flying it but was using with 2200 3s to balance out a camera on the tail. Flying aerobatics and scenic stuff over the sea. Never got to thermalling or soaring. My bro in law wrote it off when I was teaching him on it unfortunately. I then went to a 1.7 fms cub and then a 3m fms fox which I'm selling as too big for the spaces I fly in. Really want another smaller glider but torn between phoenix V2 or the phoenix 2400 as would like the fact the 2400 is easier to see but with the smallest battery to get cg is the 2400 still worse at ridge lift or thermalling than the v2? Have watched your vids again on both but still can't decide. I really want a floaty glider that I can ridge fly (small cliff for me really in UK) that won't just stall without warning. Any further thoughts on either model much appreciated
2400 is too big and draggy, and wants to tip stall even at the lightest weight. Cant beat the Phoenix V2 for all round performance, thermalling and slope soaring.
@@AndrewNewton Thx for the reply. Will get the v2 again 👍👍
@@scottbusby6095 A setup I love for slope soaring is the ASW28 wing on the Phoenix 2000 body. The ASW28 was not great for thermalling but it's awesome in this configuration.
@@AndrewNewton oh ok, interesting...Is that phoenix 2000 v2 body or original 2000? I did think about the asw28 but that tail looks too flimsy. Also is it advisable to set flaps and ailerons for slight camber on takeoff or just flaps? Some research I have done says camber reduces aileron effectiveness. Am curious as want to try this when sloping.
Ah, think I've found a video by you. It's an original 2000 body with the asw wing. Nice!
NIce! That really encourges me to reactivate my Phoenix 2000 v1 again which is sitting on the shelf for too long now. Thumbs Up! P.S. what are the differences between version v1 and v2 exactly?
Yes it is a beauty. Obvious differences are fuselage material, this is stiffer and shiny, addition of landing wheel, servos moved down back, larger cockpit area, wing mounting, empennage shape, and maybe wing area but I'll have to confirm that.
Did you program flaps and elevator together to prevent ballooning? thanks
I usualy do if required
love it. would be a good plane for me cause its fairly large so should be visible to me from the ground when its up there past the 100 meter mark? great for aerial video or FPV, or even a longer range planewith a little ground-station setup? any chance you might get into long-range flying or, we going to leave that up to arcxangel.. :-D
Ha, not on my channel unfortunately. I would be jumped on by our Civil Aviation Safety Authority
What do you think about the roll rate,slow or fast?I am thinking of buying this model
Slow roll rate, really have to plan ahead to do a barrel roll
@@AndrewNewton well..its a glider so i dont think that its a problem,but i lately build planes with HUGE ailerons an wicked roll rate witch i am used to at the moment
Thnx a lot i think i go for the ranger then . I like to fly more efficiënt. Very good for longe range too.
Is there something special i have to do in the cli command. Thnx
Just the lines mentioned in the iNAv wiki.
I hope you see this! I was inspired to get this sailplane! Unfortunately I have only been rc flying since November 2020 and didn't think to look to UA-cam for help. My mistake was putting all Spektrum crap in it. Oh well. I went with a AR637T and a 6 channel transmitter. DX6e. UGH!!!!
Even with a crap setup this plane flies an eagle soaring over it's prey! Once in awhile ill flip it upside down just to see if i can get it to drop all the crap electronics lol. now that I've watched a few of your videos im going to change the setup all together. Im not sure if I want to go full house yet though. Im still a rookie pilot wannabe. The though of gps and fpv are a little scarey to me but I think my best bet would be to get it set up for the future. Any thoughts?
I have a couple easy flying videos. I live in Oregon and the couple times I flew on the beach, the wind was pushing south to north and made things a little weird. The following day the winds were literally 0 so i had to motor around to find lifts. I really want to get into ole school home built DLG. I get a rush watching some of the videos and imagine myself up there piloting around in a 300km circle lol
Still the best foamy glider no matter what gear you put in it. Happy gliding
HI Andrew got my new one.. been flying all day yesterday just having trouble with the cg. 2200 have to push it really back.. 1300 also a bit behind. when it glides well then with the motor on a bit tail heavy ...any suggestion..?
That's normal for a lot of motor gliders, gliding properly and pitching up when you power up. You can tilt the motor down a little by adding some thin spacers behind the upper motor mount holes, or you can mix in some down elevator with throttle, or you can just control the pitch-up with elevator until you attain the height where you throttle down.
Thanks Andrew ... im gonna dial in some down elevator. thats exactly what came to my mind too. really appreciate your ideas.. thanks as always..
@@AndrewNewton great answer.... I spent sometime trying to correct up with throttle. funny thing I crashed my conscendo slighty... bent motor downward ...cured problem...
so, in my quest for a nice glider and after vowing never to own another phoenix, i caved in and ordered this V2 2000, it just ticks so many box`es for me, but might have to put a bigger ESC in and fly it 4s !
It's one of the best. Probably one of my most frequent fliers.
@@AndrewNewton That is very encouraging, having made the decision and purchase i am rather looking forward to getting this new model
i have just one question. the wings can fit at volantex ranger as well?
Yes, the Phoenix 2000 V2 has exactly the same wing and fuselage attachment as the Ranger 2000
2:28 Did the parts from Banggood come with a vario?????? If that's the case.. just wowwwww.
No, it's my own FrSKY vario
@@AndrewNewton There size battery?
Hallo andrew i buy me one can you give mr setups for the flaps and elavator
Do you use the ailerons not as breaks .thank you
Here is my full house setup newtonairlines.blogspot.com/2020/01/full-house-glider-opentx.html
Hallo andrew
Do you have a specail program for glider in your radio
In mine tj10 i have a program special for gliders thank you
No special program, have to make it up yourself in OpenTX
Andrew, of the V2`s is the 2400 better than the 2000?
2000 is much better I think, more of a glider. The 2400 is too big and draggy with a slight tip stall tendency
@@AndrewNewton Thank you Andrew
Nice plane, great vid, when I get rich I'll get the 1600mm one I think, :-) thanks for sharing :-)
Yep that would do
Great Video, after seeing it, I just purchased mine.
I didn' t step into fpv yet, nor simple video recording, and I find this one might be a good opportunity for that
What camera or setup would you recommend for this plane?
Thanks and keep on posting this great stuff.
Runcam 2 4K is great
Ya need them small individual puffy clouds, Andrew.
Looks like now small clouds at all.
Yes they disappeared when I arrived
Hallo when you use the flaps doesnt you to put the elevator down with mix flaperons and elevator greetigs
Yes with most planes, but not all need elevator flap mix
Does this thermal better than the Phoenix S 1600?
Yes this is a better thermaller
What are your thoughts in comparison as the original is a bit lighter?
My original was a sloper only
Oh yes, as you kept saying. LoL! So I guess you'd have to do the same with this to get that comparison.
Its a good looking plane. Would work well for a medium range fpv rig or even waypoint missions (hint hint)
I'd choose the Ranger over this for such missions
How did you make it make that noise for thermals?
FrSKY Variometer bit.ly/3cKqS0A
Please build a gullwing glider, without an Emponage. I was tasked to build one at university that had to be adjustable in both forward and backwards sweep aswell as anhedral and dihedral adjustability. I would love to see your approach. Love your videos by the way.
I cant even imagine what that looks like!
Without empennage, sounds like a flying wing I guess. Gull-wing sounds like reverse polyhedral (like the FMS Moa). On top of that they want forward sweep and anhedral too...?? Doesn't sound like a entirely successful plan, but I suppose they want to illustrate what works and what doesn't, for educational purposes :)
It looks like a seagull gliding but has to adjust the same way a seagull would adjust its wings. Thanks for replying.
Do you turn with rudder or ailerons? Just build mine but no maiden yet
Both is best. But you can use just ailerons and elevator.
Andrew Newton thank you ill try to mix it in
Hi
How do you get the Vario noise which instrument should I buy
FrSky Vario - ua-cam.com/video/cK_R4MG7qXY/v-deo.html
What a great day for a flight with such a beaut glider. I wish Horizon would add flaps to the Radian & conscendo as they did with the Radian XL ( Spoilers)
I almost got those but didn't because IMO gliders should have flaps! I ended up getting the one in this video and for a 1st RC plane I absolutely love flying it!
Hi Andrew, I wait for your review of new Volantex 759-3 Phoenix 2400 - it looks like Phoenix v2 with new 2400mm wings. I hope will be fly great (maybe as good as P.Evo 2600 ;-)
Oh thanks for the Heads Up Piotr. I'll definitely get one, exactly my kind of glider.
Nice bird. Thanks for the review. How do you get vario in your receiver?
FrSKY vario sensor and Taranis Radio magic
But....but....but.....
I thought I was supposed to buy the Ranger 1600 next...... :/
:v ;)
Sky Hawk will just have to do me for now.....& the Dart, AND the Tek-Sumo Twin......lol!
Thanks again :D
I cant make the purchase decisions for you, Best Buy it all!
I like your thinking, but Im going to need a bigger shed shortly... :v
I DID promised myself a tricopter eventually when I first got interested in FPV- I should have almost enough winged beasties for now, time to start saving again.... 3:) ;)
Do you think I need a gyro system?
Thanx
No, it wouldn't help. Very stable as it is.
@@AndrewNewton thank you
Andrew has the phoenix evolution got digital servos.
Good question, I'll have to check. I aways assume PNP planes come with cheap analogue plastic gears
Mine turned up yesterday Andrew watched your videos very good and helpful something different. Loads of gliders on the market this cought my eye for the price point and had good reviews thinking of putting a spectrum 6600t telemetry reciver in. Thankyou for replying back so soon take care any other tips would be appreciated. 👍
Pheonix v2 or the asw28 v2?
Phoenix V2, or even better (for thermalling) Phoenix Evolution 2.6. The ASW28 looks great but the wings and tail dont translate to foam construction very well.
If you would be so kind and post if you find CoG different from manual. Thank You Sir
More flying required but I think it can go back 5mm
Will it slope 😎?
You know it will
¿Cual es la autonomía de vuelo?
No auto pilot but I am using Frsky Variometer for the beeps
@@AndrewNewton I mean the flight time
white ufo @ 1.37min! ;)
Yes UFO, or it could be Paul's Timber
@@AndrewNewton yes, it's only for laughs;) i take this glider this night, thank for the vidéos. ;)
Great video but the vario tones on a powered glider are very annoying.
You can put a mix in so that when you're on the throttle, the vario stops sounding.
More info please ?
Conrad Taggart You set up a switch to activate vario, then you set up a mix with throttle that reverses the switch that activated the vario. I could do it on DX9, I never ran FR Sky but sure it could be done.
This one or the asw28 v2?
If we a re thinking about thermalling ability - Phoenix Evolution 2.6 is the best, Phoenix 2000 V2 next, then ASW28 third. For cruising around on power they are all close.
@@AndrewNewton just need to save enough, sweet talk the wife, and get all 3. Lol
Wise words, I like your thinking
There is no point buying this plane. Its not an upgrade, the fuselage is from an fpv model, not a "better" design from the original.
The V2 is heavier, a silly wheel, w a Ranger body. Not streamlined, but well its the new thing so who does not like a new toy.
V1 flies w a 3S
V2 w a 4S (definitely heavier)
In fact now more than ever I should buy a second V1 to have as spare before it is discontinued.
Crankylimpstein
@@jackd1582 right on